Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps
Chipp, I agree but it's still a good idea to be able to play with apps the way CMS or ajax or web based plugins do! If this kind of power is built in your stacks, in the long run, you're the clear winner - assuming you get the same amount of features + the flex of Rev... At least that's how i experience it across my work at home and my scripting's result at work... Both are interchangeble, work on any data types and the GUIs are just there wherever i go... And i proudly cover any of the points Dan mentioned! cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 14/10/2005 08:24:09: Dan Shafer wrote: Now, lest you conclude that I'm ready to chuck Rev in favor of Laszlo or AJAX, let me assure you that isn't in the cards, at least not yet. Because standalone apps still have some big advantages and of course Rev adds to those with its rapid development capability for cross- platform software. Standalone apps are still: * generally faster than Web apps * not dependent upon a reasonably fast Internet connection * not dependent on a server out there somewhere being up and running and not overloaded * better looking with better user experiences (at least potentially) * easier to protect against unauthorized use * able to read and write data to and from the user's local drive (which neither Laszlo nor AJAX can do, being confined in a security sandbox) Dan and I have been going around on this for awhile now privately. Frankly, I'm not a real big AJAX fan. In fact, I think it's not much more than the current flavor of the month. A couple more bullet points to add to your list: 1) How many companies would seriously consider using AJAX (or Rev for that matter) for a large-scale revenue producing project? Not startups, mind you, but companies who really need apps that perform...like Adobe. 2) And this one really gets me. It's bad enough to have to modify your code every operating system update, but with AJAX and LASLO, you now have to provide maintenance on every browser version update (Firefox, IE, Safari, Konqueror, Opera, PDA browsers(?)) as well as every Flash plugin update. Not to mention you're at the total mercy of the creators of those products as well as all the standards committees who are 'pushing for nextgen' type stuff. So, if Macromedia thinks Flash is too difficult to program and change their scripting paradigm for Flash (they've done it 3 times before!)-- your hosed. Or, MS decides to no longer play nice with CSS standards groups because they don't want to lose any more market share (heck they do this already with the .doc format) and purposefully make their browser incompatible-- again you're hosed. 3) Ever try debugging AJAX apps? Whew!!! From what I know, there are very few decent debuggers for Javascript and the XML doc object common in browsers these days. Just a few of the many reasons I don't really see the 'browser based apps' ever really competing. -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev vs. AJAX... Ajax vs TAOO
The only difference i see between Ajax and TAOO is that Ajax is loaded from the web whereas TAOO is running on the disk. Not that TAOO can't be downloaded, updated online (which is not done yet)... So what reproachs there are ni Ajax, Rev makes up for it. I pull that off the link and info i saw in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AJAX. What is interesting is how Ajax is ported across different languages like TAOO! i just wished i knew how to get people intersted in collaborating in this open source manner and project because so far that seems nearly impossible in this rev market... Did Linus write the help first or the code for linux before people started collaborating with him? Did people ask him what is it for? Maybe this is a taste of what's to come... http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/12/238253tid=185tid=218 But like ajax, if no one helps, rev is not going anywhere fast imoho in this realm of opensource collaboration or web apps - we all do our thing in our corner and each does his best (which has been worthy of praise) but still long term, i dont see it happening in rev... cheers Xavier - the ugly duck - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cWinCursor broke in 2.6.1?
OUCH! i tested it and it's worse than that! I can't even edit the script where the error is I cant close the script window... Rev is not responding to ignore error... Time to force quit rev! Time to force quit Rev now... A bit more testing: if you dont close the object library, you can't edit the script of the object. If you close it, edit the script of the the windows resizer button, the scritp editor seems broken - can't resize it! And that's not all... revonline doesn't work - proxy is set correctly - but since it's revonline is password protected i can't even report that either!!! OUCH cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 14/10/2005 10:28:01: Xavier, The bugzilla description you filed says : The cursor's hotpoint if far left off the cursor which makes the drag operation really awkward. but I think we are talking about different things. In getting an error on this line of code: set cursor to the cWinCursor of me the script error reads: cursor: can't find image as a simple test just create a new stack, open the object library, and place a win style stack resizer button. As soon as you mousenter it tries to find that cursor number but cant, and thus errors out. - TJ On 10/13/05, MisterX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi TJ I filed a bugzilla on it yesterday http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=3182 I don't remember the bugzilla for color cursors but it should have a million votes on it by now ;) cheers Xavier http://monsieurx.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TJ Frame Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 11:31 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: cWinCursor broke in 2.6.1? Is it just me or is the Win Style Stack Resizer button broken now in 2.6.1? Seems the custom number for that cursor is now wrong And while we are on the subject, does anyone have a list of other system cursor numbers for Windows? I bet there are more but I cant seem to locate a lost of them. It would be nice if Rev either had a larger number of built in-cursors or it came with a cursor stack of lots of custom cursor images in the proper format that we can include if we want. - TJ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cWinCursor broke in 2.6.1?
if you go to the msg and type cWinCursor rev puts put the cWinCursor of the selectedObject which results in 200308 but if you put put there is an image id 200308 = false!!! -=- Xavier Bury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 14/10/2005 10:28:01: Xavier, The bugzilla description you filed says : The cursor's hotpoint if far left off the cursor which makes the drag operation really awkward. but I think we are talking about different things. In getting an error on this line of code: set cursor to the cWinCursor of me the script error reads: cursor: can't find image as a simple test just create a new stack, open the object library, and place a win style stack resizer button. As soon as you mousenter it tries to find that cursor number but cant, and thus errors out. - TJ On 10/13/05, MisterX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi TJ I filed a bugzilla on it yesterday http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=3182 I don't remember the bugzilla for color cursors but it should have a million votes on it by now ;) cheers Xavier http://monsieurx.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TJ Frame Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 11:31 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: cWinCursor broke in 2.6.1? Is it just me or is the Win Style Stack Resizer button broken now in 2.6.1? Seems the custom number for that cursor is now wrong And while we are on the subject, does anyone have a list of other system cursor numbers for Windows? I bet there are more but I cant seem to locate a lost of them. It would be nice if Rev either had a larger number of built in-cursors or it came with a cursor stack of lots of custom cursor images in the proper format that we can include if we want. - TJ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev vs. AJAX... Ajax vs TAOO
Hi Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 14/10/2005 12:56:50: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did Linus write the help first or the code for linux before people started collaborating with him? Did people ask him what is it for? No, first thing he had was an elevator pitch. In his case, he didn't need to create it specifically as an elevator pitch - but what he had was a simple, 30-50 second description of what he was doing that was understandable to almost any potential collaborator. I'm doing an open-source, freely licensed version of Unix - it will be library and API compatible so all your code, shell scripts and general usage will work on it. TAOO doesn't, as far as I know, have that. That's the first line on my website!!! http://monsieurx.com/TAOO also has that as front story... and there's the documentation... I've not managed to get a good feel for what TAOO does, or what it would be like to use, or how it would change the everyday tasks to be done in developing an app using TAOO. And I can't go download something and try it out which you could do with Linux a long time before it was really done. strange i did put out more than one example made with TAOO's parts. Tried to describe it in few words... When i made a documentation stack - nobody found it useful. I said at one point that it was an example - and people still didn't see it... I can't tell you how lost i am at that point! Nor did i ever hear you ask how it should feel... I suspect that's largely because of the second reason - Linux was an incremental project, that most people became familiar with somewhat early on. TAOO has been going for years, so it's already a big, multi-faceted, multi-tentacled thing - and so is much harder to describe. It's difficult (if not impossible) for you to extract a bite-sized chunk of it to complete (i.e. get out of beta, release it, maybe even partly document it and thereby attract co-developers and users), because doing so would lose one of its primary current benefits to you, namely its completeness. And the few examples available in Monsieurx's downloads are useful yet independent tools of the whole (they get better with the rest but they work without the other tentacles! Yet hardly anyone comments or does send feedback... So i dont update to get more rants and less comments - granted but still... How should it feel? Faster, more featured - but absolutely non-different! GUI-regardless ;) Thanks for your comments... Something more about ajax that's interesting business-wise... http://computerbusinessreview.com/article_news.asp?guid=EB771D64-F33F-4504-A6DB-7417D22CB379 I wish I could tell you how to resolve that problem, but I'm afraid I can't You have so far! Keep trying... What i really dont get is why some lame projects get praise while hard-work projects get none... cheers Xavier - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution back to HyperCard
What you describe there is the find stack. The find command simply takes you directly to the card that contains the information and hilites it with a rectangle... cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 13/10/2005 09:39:10: How does the find function works? Does it only list the cards where the word searched is found? Thank you very much in advance for your cooperation. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps
even a toy language like blitzmax is exciting because it offers arcade-quality possibilties in the interface department (in slick opengl 3d etc) is cross-platform, early days yet but possible to do server/cgi with talk to sqlite .. but it's ultimately nostalgic the forum participants are mainly a younger generation. Apparently Rev seems deaf to our pleading for an opengl extension or real graphics... Rev works great to animate up to 10 poligons but that's it (on a big PC too...)... im sure they're working on it though... rev can't do that and it doesn't need to but i find the new version of rev quite stable have been happily using it the last few days for a project, although i still get weird coloured syntax highlighting issues, more so that ye ol metacard :) Apparently Rev is hard of hearing on that since last year... There's a few bugzillas on it too - I even proposed them a real text coloring engine that works great since 5 years or so when i rewrote the MC script editor... but as usual, no one was much interested... Since then someone managed to make another editor with similar features which others did seem interested in. It's a really weird market, these revolutionaries! ;) cheers Xavier - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps
how great this ajax is! Previously i almost ranted on some stuff where ajax was not secure and overid some stuff i set in Firefox... I decided to keep my day positive... but it comes back!!! http://it.slashdot.org/it/05/10/14/126233.shtml?tid=172tid=95tid=220 cheers Xavier - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Manipulate Stacks with Duplicate Names?
not mistakenly because Tuv once told me you just CANT rely on stack ids. Actually they change across sessions (not very smart IMOHO) so i too just avoid them... The stack path is probably the best reference after the stack's name... cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 13/10/2005 08:23:39: Is there any way to distinguish between newly created (unsaved) stacks that have the same name? How about using the stack's ID? I seem to recall reading on the list long ago that it was somehow possible for multiple opened stacks to have duplicate IDs, and (because of this) referencing stacks by ID wasn't reliable. Is this actually the case or have I spent years mistakenly avoiding referencing stacks by ID? Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Field Problems
this could be a selectionchanged handler intercepting it... try to run this handler with lock messages before you run it... if it still kills the (it's NOT a thread) execution, it's probably an error in myline... If it runs, there's a frontscript (maybe) event handler catching your change of selection (but im doudtfull)... BTW, to hilite a line in a listbehavior field, i've found it more reliable to use set the hilitedline of fld x to myline than the good old select line... cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 13/10/2005 15:07:49: Hi All, I am experiencing a problem using a Field List. I have a handler that updates the field, and in it I have the following lines: enable me disable me select line myLine of me All of which, when stepped over with the debugger cause the Handler to quit, actually the whole message thread in killed. Does anyone have any idea of what could be causing this problem? Thanks a lot Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Browser Fields
Hi guys, im working on such a hierarchical beast... but with not just files involved (i have active directory domains, subnets, servers, drives, shares, files in use, etc... i'll try to simplify... After i fix my PC's overheating issues... As for incremental searches, it's just a look searching the next word and adding the findings to the results list. Isn't it? Let me know if you can't see how it's done... Please explain in what way it is incremental? search words, searching targets?... cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 13/10/2005 14:13:55: On Oct 13, 2005, at 12:40 AM, Jesse Sng wrote: Has anyone attempted to implement the kind of browser set of fields that you see in iTunes and in the OS X Finder? I need to design something like that for a particular application that will allow the user to browser a hierarchical set of data that is partitioned into categories and subcategories. Currently, that's set up as a series of hierarchical folders and subfolders on the file server and I want to provide an easy way for them to browse and then use the data files. I'm interested too. And along with that, I'd be interested if anybody had code they wanted to share for incremental searches. I can't quite figure out how that's done (efficiently). Charles Hartman ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: [OT] Microsoft Office's New UI Blazes Some New Trails for Us
Given their HEAVY use of tags in word html or rtf exports, sounds scary already! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/10/2005 08:52:54: IMO, the fact that MSWord saves files in their own proprietary markup language *should* discourage anyone from ever using it. It'd sure be cool if more adopted Massachusetts Open Doc policy. http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,122685,00.asp Hi Chipp, I'm on the beta team for Office 2006 (Office 12). It would seem, at this point, that they are going to be making heavy use of XML as the file formats for their app's. If this pans out then it would be most favorable, IMHO. Scott Kane ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QT version on Windows
Actually, it looks like it is written in hex as the version... I have version 6.3 and the regedit key says 6308000 I guess there is no decoding, just an encoding in the wrong mode!... cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/10/2005 08:07:15: On 10/10/05 9:13 AM, sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know how to check for the QuickTime version on a Windows machine without using QTVersion? Well, you can find it in the WIndows registry at: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Apple Computer, Inc.\QuickTime\Version But it is in binary; I've tried many forms of binaryDecode() and can't seem to be able to extract it. Anyone else want to give it a go? Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QT version on Windows
Hi Sims, Besides my previous tip, here's another... My quicktime app is never installed in C:\program files!!! To find where, look first at... HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\quicktime\shell\open\command And there's another key that's interesting for you - but it's not reliable (no xvid or divx which i have installed) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\QuickTime.aif -- the AIF is the interesting bit which are the file types QT handles... And there's a key in the registry that gives you also the installed codecs... HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\drivers.desc or HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Drivers32 but with this last one, unfortunately, you can't list the subkeys in a registry branch... And i couldn't find any utility that could list the existing codecs. GSpot (free) tells you if you have the codec or not or what codec you need to play a file but it's not exactly script friendly... I'll see if i find a vbs trick later... cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/10/2005 09:43:29: At 1:07 AM -0500 10/11/05, Ken Ray wrote: On 10/10/05 9:13 AM, sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know how to check for the QuickTime version on a Windows machine without using QTVersion? Well, you can find it in the WIndows registry at: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Apple Computer, Inc.\QuickTime\Version But it is in binary; I've tried many forms of binaryDecode() and can't seem to be able to extract it. Anyone else want to give it a go? Thanks for the attempt Ken. My videos are either QT 7 H.264 or wmv files, so I need to assign one or the other (the QT 7 H.264 are outstanding and much smaller in size) So, for now I've resorted to the following: set the defaultFolder to C:/Program Files/QuickTime/QTSystem put the files into tData if H264 is in tData then doStuff If H264 is not there I give them the wmv version. It does seem a bit strange to have to load QT (QTVersions) in order to see what version it is! Once you do that you are stuck! Any comments on my hack of a work around are most appreciated. ciao, sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QT version on Windows
Hi Sims, I tried but After battling again with the clipboard crap not pasting right, in 2.6.1 put queryregistry(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Apple Computer, Inc.\QuickTime\Version,text) looking at the data (which prevents compilation when inserted between quotes)... The only way i could get a resemblence to what i see in the registry was using binaryDecode (H*, data, x) but after trying HH*, i got a revcrash!!! put queryregistry(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Apple Computer, Inc.\QuickTime\Version) into data put xaAbBhHcCsSiInNfd into testlist repeat for each char c in testlist get binarydecode(c * , data, x) put c tab x cr after fld 1 end repeat when i tried cc * i got the crash... i'll try again later but i have to work... sorry Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/10/2005 10:17:16: At 8:18 AM +0200 10/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, it looks like it is written in hex as the version... I have version 6.3 and the regedit key says 6308000 Xavier, Would you please post the script that produces this for me to try? binaryDecode() is getting me nowhere. TIA sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QT version on Windows
Sims, im using version 6.3 so no i dont have that folder... put queryregistry(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\apple Computer, Inc.\quicktime\version,text) into data get binarydecode(h*, data, x) you get x = 00080360 if you reverse that string you get what i saw correctly in the registry... Nothing else seems to not work the way it's supposed to but im no expert in the binarydecode function... i think i may have something else to chase though... ;) cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/10/2005 10:32:56: At 10:23 AM +0200 10/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My quicktime app is never installed in C:\program files!!! Xavier, Do you have a folder named QuickTime in your Program Files? If you go to C:/Program Files/QuickTime/ do you have a folder named QTSystem? ciao, sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QT version on Windows
Besides my usual takes at quicktime, i noticed that there is yet another one i could throw... I saw there's a nice QTInfo application in the folder however you have to open that application to get any info. Otherwise, i got a WMI script to find this info but it's involved and may not run on PCs without WMI... Actually, im still trying to make it run... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/10/2005 13:03:35: At 11:45 AM +0100 10/11/05, Dave Cragg wrote: Nothing else seems to not work the way it's supposed to but im no expert in the binarydecode function... I know what you mean. I think the docs may need some revision. Every time I read about binaryDecode and binaryEncode my head hurts. Generally, it's trial and error. Many thanks for this Dave Mr. X - gives me something to play with for a while. It would be very, very nice if one could check the QTVersion withoutneeding to load QuickTime however! If you load it and cannot/do not use it then you cannot set cantuseqt to true without quitting. ciao, sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QT version on Windows
I think i found a few more hints... First, the registry version and the application's version do no match. The registry say 630800 while the application's version says 6.3.17. After some digging, i found that most Quicktime files also say 6.3.17... But while searching, i found what could be what Sims is looking for... C:\WINNT\system32\QuickTime\Uninstall.log which contains: [C:\home\Administrator\WINDOWS - Header] Signature=VISE Version=0001 UninstallKeyName=QuickTime Product Name=QuickTime 6 [C:\home\Administrator\WINDOWS - WinNT] AdminPrivileges=1 RemoveInUseFiles=1 [C:\home\Administrator\WINDOWS - Directories2] count=11 0=D:\app 1=D:\app\QuickTime As you can see, the version is again different Grrr But on the other hand, you get all the paths for files and registry installed... cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/10/2005 12:45:23: On 11 Oct 2005, at 09:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: put queryregistry(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\apple Computer, Inc.\quicktime\version,text) into data get binarydecode(h*, data, x) you get x = 00080360 if you reverse that string you get what i saw correctly in the registry.. This gives me what I see in the registry. (in this case version 7.0.2) put queryregistry(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\apple Computer, Inc. \quicktime\version,text) into data local t1,t2,t3,t4 get binaryDecode(H2H2H2H2,data,t1,t2,t3,t4) put t4t3t2t1 -- 07028000 I'm not sure if this is any help to sims. I assume digits 1-2 are the main version number, digit 3 is the subversion, and digit 4 is the sub-sub version. But this probably needs some more confirmation. I also see there's a registry entry that give the location of QuickTime. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\apple Computer, Inc.\quicktime\InstallDir Any use? Nothing else seems to not work the way it's supposed to but im no expert in the binarydecode function... I know what you mean. I think the docs may need some revision. Every time I read about binaryDecode and binaryEncode my head hurts. Generally, it's trial and error. Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: weird msg-box phenom?
Charles, if i remember well, i saw it once that the rev script debugger uses the space as a trigger to move your debugging point forward (depending on the focus of the button selected in the debugging window). As for the variable watcher, there's a preference to hide when not in the script editor... but i may be wrong... cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/10/2005 13:42:44: While I'm debugging a script (stopped at a breakpoint), when I try to use the message box to check something, it lets me type up to including one blank space; then the insertion point disappears and the box takes no characters. When I click inside it again it accepts characters up through one more blank space; and so on. Do others get this? Now that I mention it: I don't remember it being true before, but it is now, that the Variable Watcher window disappears whenever there's no script running. Am I just forgetting? It's a pain -- the debug/ edit cycle has to include starting up that window again . . . (OS 10.4.2; Dreamcard 2.6.1 but it happened on 2.6 before I upgraded) Charles Hartman ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QT version on Windows
Here's a VBS script that will printout the version Option Explicit Dim oFSO Dim sPath, sFileVer, sFileName sPath = d:\app\quicktime\quicktimeplayer.exe Set oFSO = CreateObject(Scripting.FileSystemObject) sFileVer = oFSO.GetFileVersion(sPath) sFileName = oFSO.GetFileName(sPath) Wscript.Echo sFileName sFileVer Set oFSO = Nothing which outputs: quicktimeplayer.exe 6.3.0.17 if you dont know how to run a vbs script, here's how: put fld script into dscript -- this contains your script... put dscript into url file:c:/temp/test.vbs get shell(cscript /nologo c:/temp/test.vbs) put it enjoy Xavier - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: # POSSIBLY SPAM #::Re: HELP!! - Geometry Gone Berserk, How to fix?
David, Jeane, only in theory... In practice, i've seen this not work, work wrong, rescrew everything... i've never seen this work correctly... I know because i tried for MONTHS not to go crazy with the thing!!! The best way to make this work: make a handler to save all your control's positions try rev*geocraptry if it doesn't work, you can restore the geometry with your settings. Rev's cachegeostuff doesn't work 100% correctly... cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/10/2005 10:06:50: At 12:11 PM +0100 10/6/2005, David Burgun wrote: HELP! I have a Stack and the geometry has gone berserk. I have a breakpoint inserted in a preOpenStack handler that allows me to quit the startup path. If I let it continue the Stack displays and the geometry has scaled/moved objects as if the Stack window were MUCH bigger. If I Abort in the debugger, the stack displays ok. However, if I type: revUpdateGeometry (which would have been called on the preOpenStackk path anyway) The geometry goes beswick! How it fix? Is there anyway of resetting the geometry of the Stack? With the stack in the correct state (e.g. if you abort), try typing revCacheGeometry in the message box. In theory this should rebuild the Geometry Manager settings, and base them off the current position and size. -- jeanne a. e. devoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jaedworks.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ReplaceText and Backslash
try to escape the backslash first. put replacetext( fld 1, backslashbackslash quote , quote ) into fld 1 which is not necessary with replace backslash quote with quote in fld 1 cheers -=- Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/10/2005 09:35:39: Hello, I have a string that comes from Applescript and it has a bunch of / in it. It looks like this Script id=\7\ name=\New Script 2\ includeInMenu=\True\ I would like to replace the Backslash Quote string with just Quote. But this does not work. put replaceText (theString, backslash quote, quote) Any ideas why? Thanks Todd -- Todd Geist __ g e i s t i n t e r a c t i v e ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Display an Image from Clipboard on a Card
Hi Todd, All you need to do is create an image control, and put the clipboarddata[image] into it cheers -=- Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/10/2005 10:36:24: Hello, How do I display an image from clipboard on a card? I know I need to use the clipboarddata[image] But I don't know what to do with it Any help would be appreciated Thanks Todd -- Todd Geist __ g e i s t i n t e r a c t i v e ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to check internet connection
Hi Pradeep, There's many different ways to do this, but the simplest that comes to mind would be put url http://monsieurx.com; into whatever -- any other world famous web site that shoult give you either peep or a great websites' html data but who cares, we just want a proof that internet exists! Ping or ipconfig can help but they dont prove anything... hope that helps... Cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/10/2005 15:22:44: Hello, I want to check from revolution desktop program to know whether the user is connected to internet. Could anyone please provide me the code or some guide to do this. Thanks Regards Pradeep ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: High-Lighting an Image Object
Hi David you can change the border of he image... on mouseenter set the showborder of me to true --set the bordercolor to yellow repeat with x = 0 to 3 wait 10 milliseconds set the borderwidth of me to x end repeat repeat with x = 3 down to 0 wait 10 milliseconds set the borderwidth of me to x end repeat set the border of me to false end mouseenter BUT, there's no bordercolor property for images... so you can't set it to a color... Another possibility is to draw a button behind the image and have that change borders cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/10/2005 15:13:24: Hi, I have an Image Object that I am using as the target of a Drag and Drop operation. I do the same on a text field and when the cursor is over the field it lights up (by setting the border color in the dragEnter and dragLeave handlers. I am doing the same with the image object but it has no effect. How can I highlight an Image Object so the user knows that it is capable of accepting the drop? Thanks a lot All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Structures in RunRev
Hi David,
Hi David,
You dont need structures. You can use the arrays for that without any
problem
struct contact[id] {
name;
age;
height;
weigth
}
is the same as
array[id,name]
array[id,height']
and so on...
cheers
Xavier
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/10/2005 15:51:20:
Hi,
In my opinion, one thing that is missing from TranScript/RunRev is
the ability to define structures. It would be great to be able to
define a structure as so:
structure(FileInfoStruct(mFileName,mFileWidth,mFileHeight))
then access it like:
global structure(FileInfoStruc(myFileInfo(empty,0,0)))
or
local structure(FileInfoStruc(myFileInfo(empty,0,0)))
-
put xxx into the mFileName of myFileInfo
put 1024 into the mFileWidth of myFileInfo
put 768 into the mFileHeight of myFileInfo
Any comments?
Thanks a lot
Dave
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Re: TCP/IP error addendum
Hi Ton Seems like maybe you forgot to include the revdatabase library... cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/10/2005 16:06:33: This morning I've posted an error with RR: When connecting to a mySQL database I get the error Can't create TCP/ IP socket (43) The strange thing is that there is no problem when using the IDE or a standalone for Windows, only when creating a standalone for Mac OS9. Anyone any suggestions before I put all kind of answer messages in the source to see where things go wrong in the standalone? Regards, Ton Kuypers ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: # PROBABLY SPAM #::Problems with Standalone App under Windows XP
Hi David Try this... on preopenstack if the plaform is windows then set the decorations of ths stack to default But normally, you get a default window when you compile... Are you changing window modes? Palette? cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 29/09/2005 12:46:57: Hi All, I have a Standalone App that works just fine under MacOS X, however under Windows XP, the window resize box does not appear! Is there something I have to tweak to make this work on Mac and Windows? As you may have guessed I don't know Windoews that well! Thanks a lot All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Detecting height of dock and taskbar
Sarah, Nuance! On windows, it may give you the height of the task bar... If you change the taskbar, rev doesn't notice... Rev doesn't know if it is up or down either... Note this is the same with anything you change in windows (selection or window colors) when you use rev, you have to quit rev and restart it for it to notice... ;( [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 29/09/2005 13:45:58: Is there a way to detect the height of the dock in OSX and of the taskbar in windows. I try to create a complete set of routines to: create open and save documents (windows and mac). While opening a document I want it to be completly on the screen (also the bottomRight so it's possible to resize the doc) and have an offset for the topLeft from other open docs. For this I need to know how much room to leave at the bottom for the dock or the taskbar. I guess I need a shell command to do this, but unfortunatly I have no clue Check out the windowBoundingRect. It gives you the usable rectangle allowing for the dock or taskbar. However with Macs, it does not allow for the menu bar, so you may need increase the 2nd item to stop your windows disappearing under the menu bar. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Locating an Application to Launch
Hi David Hi, How can I find out if an Application is available on the system, especially if there is more than one version of the application installed? I need something that will search all volumes on a system and list all the occurances of the application? The only reliable way i see to do this automatically is to scan the disks for the executable... While on windows, the registry can help, it still will not tell you if you have two instances of an application installed or not... Rev doesn't even have a key! So searching seems the best solution. Assuming the user doesn't change the folders' each day, one scan should be enough an maybe need some updates every x month if a change happens... For instance if I am looking for (say) Photoshop and there are three versions on two volumes, I would like to present this to the user and allow them to select the one they wish to launch. If there is only one version, then just launch it. Versions can be seen in some registry keys. On the Mac, i think you can ask the finder for the file's information and find the version there. Now, on windows, this only works if the file is installed and has a version registry key but depeding on the manufacturer, this key can be anywhere... HKLM/software/abobo/arcobat/6.0 or HKLM\software\vereetas\nethackups\ which contains a key named version... The easiest thing would be to ask the user what application he wants to run... This will save you and the user lots of waiting or scripting... Let the user find where he installed the application or what version he wants maybe deemed more flexible than the automatic script that gets the wrong version - Example: runrev doesn't have any registry information in the registry so it doesn't know what version is running or where is the currently installed application to help the installer/updater... cheers Xavier - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A couple of 'creating games' Qs
Hi Eva, welcome back! You need to check out 2 stacks that will definitely answer all your questions (the answer is yes) The first stack is BVG's ChatRev (i dont have the url but it should be in Revonline i think under user BvG) It handles multiple connections across the in total beauty! http://home.wanadoo.nl/mark.sch/software/chatrev.html The second one with the scrolling pane would be the latest stack by Hugh of FlexibleLearning.com It is called Panorama or Moving wallpaper... Very nice demo! you can find those at www.flexiblelearning.com/xtalk.htm cheers -=- Xavier Bury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 23/09/2005 11:45:39: Hi everybody, I am new here and am not a Revolution user yet. But I am using MetaCard and used to be on the MC list long time ago. Don't think anyone remember me though. :o) Before eventually getting involved with Revolution I need a little clarification. It has to do with game development. 1. Can Revolution handle a multi player environment? Up to 20 players would be enough for my needs. Keeping connection between cards and stacks. Sending information between clients/server/clients. I have red some tuts on handeling databases which gives a hint it ought to work. 2. Can one have a scrolling screen? The card is larger than the visible play area. Character stays in the middle while the rest is scrolling. I want to send a thank you to Malte Brill for an excellent tutorial and work on the Arcade engine. It made me curious if Revolution may be of use to us again. Eva Isotalo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Clipboard madness
Yesterday i was BATTLING against a stack who wouldn't copy paste information from a field to ultraedit... I tried all keyboard combos, and even the menu - just i wouldn't copy anything... maybe it's due to the environment i run this into: it runs on a windows 2003 server which has 4 metaframes opened, 4-8 RDP windows (terminal services), Notes (biggest crap mail client you could find in the galaxy), and FireFox (who doesn't know how to copy paste any better...). I managed to make this work via a button: select text of fld x, copy! So why doesn't the menu or keycombos work? Today, when i copy the line from any program emcacl \\server\fs$\userprog\xxx /t /c /y /q /g SYSTEM:F OAAD\xxx:C and paste it into a field (or scripteditor) and what i get is: emcacl $\\/t /c /y /q /g SYSTEM:F OAAD\:C Tested in Rev 2.6, Metacard 2.62... 3rd bugzilla entry today... Rev should sponsor those who do their beta-testing - but i get the feeling this is an persistent problem ;) The big question: Is this in windows only? I'd like to see if any of you Mac users also have this problem before i enlarge further the zilla list ;) If this was a compiler problem, how many sins would it imply? ;D cheers Xavier - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Clipboard madness
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yesterday i was BATTLING against a stack who wouldn't copy paste information from a field to ultraedit... I tried all keyboard combos, and even the menu - just i wouldn't copy anything...[snip]copy! I've never been able to copy from a stack field to another field via ctrl-c ctrl-v. I jst always assumed you had to script it? You may have decided that because of a bug whereby the IDE would not cut/paste unless (or until) there was a script editor window open. Sorry don't know the bug number and a (very) quick search didn't find it. But it is fixed in 2.6 !! so give it a try now. No, this is definitely not fixed! Not in 2.6, not in 2.62... The trick is that if the menubar which is currently active doesn't have a copy command, it wont work - so yes you have to script that but even in the script editor which is the active window and which has this copy command, 80% of the time, i have to activate the menubar or it wont work even though i am working in that field! Same for comment scripts, etc... We know, you should waste half an hour reseting your preferences - but that's useless, the problem comes back again in less than a week... The real trick for missing copy/paste commands is to click once in the menu of the script editor or the revmenubar and THEN the menu shortcut will work (is that the fix in 2.6 you're refering to?)! Yesterday that wouldn't even work - not even in MC! But it might possibly be my PC maybe... As far as the paste screwing up... Well, it's another story. That's the problem at hand... Hope that helps for your copy shortcut... This doesn't resolve the problem that when you paste something in rev/MC yuo dont know if the pasted text is the same one you copied unless you verify it... X( - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: problem waiting - spellchecker
DUH! Appologies to Dave Cragg who suggested that... Sorry Dar, no cigar ;) i should learn to read sometimes ;) Thanks again Dave cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/09/2005 06:08:14: Woah cool the DarFunction! Some Interactivity seems to be showing handy thanks to the DarFunction in this waiting-room case though! More than i saw before... the seconds ticked but... But even though i tried it still worked once and then no more... It just hanged. The message wouldn't budge. Same keyword... The hilite also i noticed was only working once hilited and then no more (nu behavior since new word parser but same result - i said before that it took 3 or 4 clicks before it locked.) So it's, as i was afraid, a scripter's error! Arghh I started commenting out all the scripts in the button that's supposed to be hit that was unneeded. And i left the essentials. Suddenly i get an error! I was adding 1 to a wrong array item... A code line from mambo #2 - the xtalk word parser! RevError suddenly spewed in total geometric disarray (seen this before for the same reasons somewhere too?) Type add: destination has a bad format (numeric?) Object Learn Line add 1 to xosdictionary[currentword] Hint button id 1030 of group id 1080 of card id 1002 of stack F:/TAOO/Palettes/SpellNO2.rev Why wasn't that error showing up before??? I sure am glad i didn't enter a bugzilla for the wait problem! It's the debugger not following the path deeper into the problem... Something Bugzillaed months ago ... Xcellent deduction thanks to DAR! My man! You saved me a rewrite ;) The next rev made dictionary is gonna rock with your name in the credits and the honorous free license emeritus circle in TAOO! SpellNO2 learned a whole paragraph in one pass thanks to you!!! Cool! Now, i got to start watching for badly spelled words and how it suggests the real stuff... And work out Xceptions... Thanks again Dar revcheers Xav http://monsieurx.com -Original Message- From: Dave Cragg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 19:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; How to use Revolution Subject: Re: problem waiting - spellchecker On 1 Sep 2005, at 17:20, MisterX wrote: repeat... ... put wait into xosdictionary[current] --put the waitdepth -- always 1 --if the waitdepth 2 then wait until xosdictionary[current] = continue with messages -- else skip... poor idea... --end if ... end repeat then, any button in the spellchecker GUI will do something like ignore, fix, etc... and then ... put continue into xosdictionary[current] end mouseup The reason the wait is in the first place is to wait for the user input (or abort). Since it's blocked, the only way this could work (it's in a loop that parses each word) would be if i added a double condition with a property reset and that gets messy... This requires major code change (not again, 2 already)... Why can't this wait statement work each time it is called? If it works 2 or 3 times why not 4 or more? What can affect this? Im removing now all outside influences for the next test run... The question remains, why does it lock up? What do you mean by lock up? If you mean it's hanging at the wait statement, then the first thought would be that the condition isn't being met. One way to explore this would be to use a function as the condition, and spit out some loggable data from within the function. Perhaps something like this: repeat... ... put wait into xosdictionary[current] --put the waitdepth -- always 1 --if the waitdepth 2 then wait until myCondition() = continue with messages -- else skip... poor idea... --end if ... end repeat function myCondition put xosdictionary[current] into tRetVal put the milliseconds : tRetVal into field log return tRetVal end myCondition In this way, you can see whether the condition is being continually checked or not, and monitor the value that should be changing. At least it should give you an idea of where things are going wrong. Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the
Re: problem waiting - spellchecker
Hi everyone I've advanced quite a lot in the spell checker BUT the wait until [condition] with messages still gives me lots of troubles. It works usually the first time, maybe a second time, but it definitely locks up after 2-4 loops... By locking up, i mean that it doesn't seem to get either the with messages or that the condition is correct. I checked if the waitdepth is not 1 but it is not. And if it was, how do you delete the pending waits? grrr... After a control-C to abort the wait, the error message indicates that the lock up happens at the wait statement. What can cause this problem? Nothing else is running or being sent or listed in the pending messages... This is far from reliable at all from what i can tell. Even if i debug (usually forces things to work better - or worse ;), it doesn't help. I see no cause for the wait to hang... Thanks for any help on this... Other than that, i got a real word parser going, and i'll be also putting back the style to the corrected words where necessary... This is quite a challenging application - to be done the right way ;) cheers Xavier - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: problem waiting - spellchecker
Dave Interesting idea... Adding more pending messages ;) I'll give this a try later... Thanks... Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/09/2005 14:11:09: Hi, Just at thought, but could you do something like this: In handler that you want to wait in: global gConditionFlag put false into gConditionFlag send CheckIfDone to this card in 10 ticks -- or a good value for the task global gConditionFlag on CheckIfDone if gConditionFlag = false then send CheckIfDone to me in 10 ticks -- or a good value for the task exit CheckIfD end if -- -- Do the update -- end CheckIfDone not sure how this would fit into your project though. All the Best Dave Hi everyone I've advanced quite a lot in the spell checker BUT the wait until [condition] with messages still gives me lots of troubles. It works usually the first time, maybe a second time, but it definitely locks up after 2-4 loops... By locking up, i mean that it doesn't seem to get either the with messages or that the condition is correct. I checked if the waitdepth is not 1 but it is not. And if it was, how do you delete the pending waits? grrr... After a control-C to abort the wait, the error message indicates that the lock up happens at the wait statement. What can cause this problem? Nothing else is running or being sent or listed in the pending messages... This is far from reliable at all from what i can tell. Even if i debug (usually forces things to work better - or worse ;), it doesn't help. I see no cause for the wait to hang... Thanks for any help on this... Other than that, i got a real word parser going, and i'll be also putting back the style to the corrected words where necessary... This is quite a challenging application - to be done the right way ;) cheers Xavier - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Interesting article for open source code
Hi everyone, This could help more than one person... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/08/31/koders_shareware_search_engine/ enjoy Xavier - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
re: mainStack scripts, now Windows??
Lars Try to remove the traversal=ON from most menus and buttons - it just wrecks havoc with hillites... Also, test your apps on windows 2000 AND XP where the themes will change teh geometry of buttons, appearance of groups, and possibly more... Just my two cents... Please vote for all windows issues in bugzilla too ;) cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 31/08/2005 13:58:42: Hi all! I thank Richard, Eric and Robert for their concise expalnations and help. Now that I have followed that advice (a different stack with no script is now the mainStack) I'm happy as a clam. One more thing though; One of the reasons I made the major changes to my project was to try to make the Windows version run better. I work on a Mac (OSX.4.2) and was a little shocked to see the newest Windows standalone. I hadn't done one for many months after I originally convinced myself it would work in Windows. Now that the program has grown and morphed into something far better and is nearing completion, I made another Windows build. I always knew I would need to buy Rev for Windows, at least to get the fonts looking their best, but I was a little disappointed when I launched it. On my Mac it is flawless, but on windows, so many things flicker and stacks in the backgound flash black when buttons are clicked in other stacks. And my mainStack flickers black when I navigate in it. Now, the background of the stack is black, and the mask that provides the windowShape is black, so a black flash makes sense, but why does it flash at all? I mean, sometines two side by side buttons, whose icons were made in Photoshop and other than their labels are indentical have tow different color shades!!! All of this before AND after the mainStack script thing. What can I expect from Rev for Windows? Does a windows standalone built in Windows function better? Will I be able to solve these problems working in Windows? Has anyone out there built an app on a make and found this type of behavior in a windows sandalone? How did you fix it? I have little Windows experience, heck, maybe it's the machine (cheap HP laptog, XP Home, 1.4 ghz Celeron, enough memory) Any advice before I shell out the cash for my second platform copy of Rev? As always, tips are appreciated, and in this case, being begged for! Lars ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: problem waiting - spellchecker
All my code is modularized from the start... But i thought a loop was necessary. But B is how i went about it (still untested)... I just remember the last word i checked and continue... would wait... with messages block the gui too though? Thanks Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 30/08/2005 07:39:19: Xavier, I would suggest either: a) use wait ... with messages or b) modularize the code such that your buttons can pick up where your code left off. IOW, there is no code running while waiting for a button to be pressed. Just save off your progress, and wait for the next click. Hope that helps! - Brian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: problem waiting - spellchecker
wait with messages checkContinue doesn't compile wait with messages checkContinue causes an execution error. I quit MC, launch Rev to see the help about it... Ah, now i see the wait ... with ok, so i tried... wait 0 seconds with messages checkContinue still an error! Is there supposed to be a handler checkContinue or can i just call checkContinue from my other button to trigger the wait with to continue? still lost... Xav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 30/08/2005 08:37:06: Recently, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: would wait... with messages block the gui too though? Nope - you use with messages specifically to avoid any blocking. Try it in a test stack. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: problem waiting - spellchecker
Superb!!! Thanks all for your great help!!! We got a spellchecker almost working... The revDocs need help here!!! It sure wasn't clear at all... wait [for] number [seconds | ticks | milliseconds] [with messages] doesn't imply that you can add a condition to wait for! Only time... Where i was confused is that this looked like a read from socket IP with message whatever thansk again! Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 30/08/2005 09:09:58: Recently, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there supposed to be a handler checkContinue or can i just call checkContinue from my other button to trigger the wait with to continue? Just check the value of a variable that is set by whatever controls/handlers cause your checking to be completed: wait until gCheckContinue with messages And in a button (simplified): on mouseUp global gCheckContinue -- do my spellcheck stuff put true into gCheckContinue end mouseUp Make sense? Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: problem waiting - spellchecker
im using 2.6...
And it is missing the condition...
cheers
Xavier
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 30/08/2005 10:21:16:
On 30 Aug 2005, at 08:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Superb!!!
Thanks all for your great help!!!
We got a spellchecker almost working...
The revDocs need help here!!! It sure wasn't clear at all...
wait [for] number [seconds | ticks | milliseconds] [with messages]
doesn't imply that you can add a condition to wait for! Only time...
Where i was confused is that this looked like a
read from socket IP with message whatever
What version of Rev are you using? The current docs show these syntax
descriptions:
wait {until | while} condition [with messages]
wait [for] number [seconds | ticks | milliseconds] [with messages]
wait for messages
But I seem to remember in earlier versions that the condition
version wasn't listed.
Cheers
Dave
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Re: external Windows program running?
- Original Message - From: Lynch, Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can also just check every now and then to see if the application is among the openprocesses. And Xavier, you can launch an app via shell command without it locking up - at least, Chipp's method so far has not locked up the Rev app for me. I would be happy to send it to you, if you wish. I know the method, i use since 5 years... shell(start myapp) I do these all the time at work... But the shell without the start seemed to be what you wanted... Thanks ;) Xavier - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Emergency Mouse Polling Help
Hi Jonathan the only way i can see this work is via a macro-recorder program that sends an event to rev... I dont see how else... -=- Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 27/08/2005 06:47:33: I need to know if I can use Rev to develop a background app on Windows, that determines and launches an event if a key is depressed, I know how to do this in a standard app, but not in the background... Thanks, Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev On Top?
Peter, Try in AS to tell finder to hide app filemaker pro or something like that... -=- Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 25/08/2005 11:21:34: I have a Rev stack that uses AppleScript to access a FileMaker Pro database. However, I often find that the FMPro window remains on top and I have to manually bring my Rev window to the front. I have tried using the go this stack command to bring Rev to the top but it doesn't work. Can anyone suggest how I can make sure my Rev window is on top/in front? Thanks Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: write fails
Jon you need to open the file first... see Open file... Write file... and close file... Each has it's options too... cheers -=- Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 25/08/2005 15:09:21: I'm trying to log activity to a file with what I thought was a simple approach: put the date the long time m Return into s write s to file C:/RHOADS/EEOL2/Logs/log.txt at end The file is not created automatically; after creating the file manually, the file remains empty; the path was copy-and-pasted from Windows Explorer, so I know it is correct; the string s has reasonable contents as verified with the Variable Watcher; and there are no run-time errors. Any thoughts? :) Jon ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev On Top?
Ooops shows i havent applescripted in a while! Woah... 6 years now ;) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 25/08/2005 14:24:50: Peter, Try in AS to tell finder to hide app filemaker pro or something like that... -=- Xavier Actually, it should be the other way. Execute as AppleScript something like this: tell application Revolution to activate Revolution must be an actual name of the process. This should cause the program to come forward. Robert ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: write fails
Jon i use open file x for append... For log files, it is crucial not to erase the logs... And while the |put data into url thisurl is great, and easy but i wouldn't consider it as a good practice if the file is over a certain size... but of course, depends on the application... X [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 25/08/2005 15:34:53: I never use open, write, close... I did at first, but it just never occurs that I need to do it that way. The put URL and put into URL methods are so much easier. If you have a file named C:/my documents/my feet stink.txt then you would address it like this (in Windows): Put file:C:/my documents/my feet stink.txt into tFileURL Put URL tFileURL into tMyText -- do whatever you need to do with the text Put tMyNewText into URL tFileURL Now, if you are using binary data, in other words you need to make sure Revolution does not automatically change end of line markers to its own format, then put binfile: in front of the file path rather than file: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Trendler Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 9:29 AM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: write fails Jon, I think you need to open file before writing to it, or, alternatively use the put URL See the docs for detail. Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Revolution List use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 11:09 PM Subject: write fails I'm trying to log activity to a file with what I thought was a simple approach: put the date the long time m Return into s write s to file C:/RHOADS/EEOL2/Logs/log.txt at end The file is not created automatically; after creating the file manually, the file remains empty; the path was copy-and-pasted from Windows Explorer, so I know it is correct; the string s has reasonable contents as verified with the Variable Watcher; and there are no run-time errors. Any thoughts? :) Jon ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.15/81 - Release Date: 24/08/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: MIDI externals
If this can help, I think you could work this out via MIDI-OX. It's a virtual MIDI manager that can be controled via VBS/WSH... There's a section of the page below dedicated to scripting it... Im sure this will save you hours of externals writing... http://www.midiox.com/ here's what it does... MIDI-OX is a Windows 95/NT program (also Win98/Me/2000/XP). It is a 32 bit program which will not operate under earlier versions of Windows. MIDI-OX is a multi-purpose tool: it is both a diagnostic tool and a System Exclusive librarian. It can perform filtering and mapping of MIDI data streams. It displays incoming MIDI streams, and passes the data to a MIDI output driver or the MIDI Mapper. You can generate MIDI data using the computer keyboard or the built-in control panel. You can even record and log MIDI data and then convert it to a Standard MIDI File for playback by a sequencer. Some additional information is available in the MIDI and Audio FAQ. And it's free... for non-commercial use... cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 24/08/2005 07:58:53: --- Ken Norris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy, Is there an external for Windows (I think they're called DLL's?) that will select instruments and play MIDI notes instantly? Not necessarily a song sequence, but a note or chord. i am working on something similar and could not get Shakobox for Windows to works as it does with Mac. am currently expanding from 1 channel to 16 with some extra factors and so have not tried this yet. send in time, here we come. here are Jacquie Jon: Jacquie: I had some problems with that myself when I was testing the Windows version. I couldn't make it work until I used the technique where I wrote a temporary text file to disk. I think this is the way you should do it. After you launch PlayCommandAgent.exe with shell(), write your command out to a file called c:\windows\playcmd.evt . Once you close the file it should pick up the command. To do 16 channels, open/write/close the file 16 times. Shakobox author Jonathyn Bet'nct [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Custom Answer File Dialog?
Hi Scott, Check out the MetaCard built-in file-answer dialog... It should be step in the right direction. I've evolved it into my FileBrowser in TAOO (see the previously posted screenshots) and i have yet to add the ask and answer capabilities to it... You can take it pretty far... cheers Xavier Bury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 24/08/2005 06:50:10: Has anyone assembled a custom answer file dialog that they would be willing to share? I have to manage some non-standard file navigation and it would be helpful to be able to skip reinventing the wheel if possible. Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Program bar at bottom of Windows screen is blank
Hi Steve, The only thing i can think of that causes this is - no decorations or palette mode window (but then it wouldn't be visible in the task bar - only in task manager) - you set the title of the window to a space or something like that... - any MacOS-only characters in the title? cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 22/08/2005 13:44:59: Hopefully someone can help with the following question. A created a Rev program using Mac and built a standalone for Windows. The program resides in a folder. On Windows, the name of the folder shows up in the program bar at the bottom of the screen, as it should. However, on opening the (. exe) program the name of the the .exe program is blank in the program bar. One user has mentioned that this could confuse people into thinking spyware or a virus is operating. The name of the program did not display in the Task Manager either. If anyone is interested in seeing the program it is available as a free download from www.medmaster.net. The program name is MedSearcher. It is the first Revolution program that I have published. It's designed to allow users to quickly search any of the major medical search engines. Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to enable the name of the .exe file to show up in the program bar? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
simply mind blowing... If only rev could paint that fast... cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 17/08/2005 06:52:15: Recently, sims wrote: You must be from another planet...space ships aliens on your front yard every Halloween. There is a connection. Shh... Klaatu Barata Nikto. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New project
Ben, If you wait a week i might have all that wrapped up... For Rev and MC... cheers -=- Xavier Bury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/08/2005 07:02:17: On 8/11/05 11:54 PM, Ben Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Revolution community, I was wondering if there would be any interest for a new utility I'm writing in Revolution. It would include a variable watcher (that can view arrays), property watcher, much-improved message box, perform operations on files/folders, script editor, command-line prompt, and maybe more. One could also define macros to perform repetitive tasks. If you have any other ideas that would be helpful for Rev programmers, please tell me and if it's not too hard I'll try to do it. This project will probably done in about a month. I really like Rev's way to set up a ui, but sometimes the scripts get a little wordy. Like after working in c++ it's hard to look at put 3 into x and take it seriously. I'm thinking about writing something in the script editor that could interpret things like x=3 and then expand them. Also it would be nice to do things like myButton.customProp = 4. Sounds great to me Ben... go for it! Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Looking for suggestions/advice
I wrote a nice mail to respond to all this but again, i got censured/waiting for approval... grrr you'll have to wait until Heather gets to it if she does in time... in brief, i have such an engine... cheers Xav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/08/2005 07:42:17: On Aug 11, 2005, at 12:31 AM, Rodney Somerstein wrote: But, short of that, does anyone have any other suggestions? I had thought of creating something like this as well in the past, and had come to the conclusion that if I were doing it, I wouldn't try to implement the rules. Instead, I'd simply focus on implementing correct card behavior. So the game would understand a deck of cards, a face-down card, a face-up card, and a card that is visible to only a subset of players, with the ability to move each of these around on a virtual table. So for example, if you and I are playing blackjack and I am dealing, I grab the deck and deal out a face up card on your side of the table, a face down card on my side, a face up card on your side, and a face up card on my side. I then look at my face down card. You can see that I am looking, but not what I see. Etc., etc. The only thing preventing me from dealing both my cards face up is that we both know how blackjack works. It doesn't need to be codified. The end result is a virtual card table that can be used to play almost any card game imaginable, without any further configuration. We just need to agree to the rules. I hadn't thought of stopping at cards -- implementing chess pieces would be easier than playing cards, since they have a single visibility state for all players. Want to play four-handed chess? Chess on a 36x36 board with fifty pieces each? No problem, no definition required. Rev would be very well suited to this, by the way. regards, Geoff ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why can't I send tabKey?
Damn, two mails now that Ken has hijacked over my previous answers to this list... Am i wasting my time writing answers to see others rewrite them over again? Dan, See the first response to your mail, it resolves this issue one handed... Why mess with the rest? In addition, if you want to send this to a field in particular and still use a generic card/stack level handler, here's the way on opencard doTabKey afield -- note the new parameter... end OpenCard on doTabKey afield select line 1 of field afield or whathaveyou end doTabKey Or you could just say on opencard select line 1 of field 1 why go into all these hoops and loops when there's a simple solution? Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/08/2005 18:46:52: Ken While type tabKey doesn't generate an error, it also doesn't do what I think it should. In my book, I had a script: on openCard type tabKey end openCard I suggested that if you did this, you could force the first field (in tab order, of course) on a card to be active when a new card opens. Doesn't work (though I could *swear* I tested it in 1.1.1 or whatever version was current when I wrote the book two years ago). Nothing happens. So I don't know if the tabKey is actually being typed or not but if it is, it's not doing what I think tabbing SHOULD do. Dan On Aug 11, 2005, at 8:08 AM, Ken Ray wrote: On 8/11/05 1:37 AM, Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But if I try to send tabKey, with or without quotation marks and with or without a target, I always get a can't find handler error. That's because 'tabKey' isn't treated as a handler... it's treated as a keystroke. You need to type tabkey instead of send. I think this would be the same as functionKey, etc. But I agree with you - if it is a handler that can be trapped, it should be able to be sent. So I'd still BZ it. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ~~ Dan Shafer, Revolution Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.revolutionpros.com, Click My Stuff ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows Event run Rev app ?
Hi Michael I thought about that after writing the mail however and just like snmp traps (used for monitoring as well), these are not geared for events like changes in the registry and the user events... Only hardware or system states and application events. The security login can tell some access events but since there's no way to query just one event, you have to import more events each time (or dump the events and loose the event log each time). cheers -=- Xavier Bury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/08/2005 13:38:57: Xavier about watching for events, capturing the event viewer log then sift through it for the id ? Michael - Original Message - From: MisterX [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'How to use Revolution' use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 11:30 PM Subject: RE: Windows Event run Rev app ? Michael not that i know other than watching for events via the event viewer or writing an vbs monitor to do so... There's also specialized apps for this (sysload comes to mind) but there's many others... cheers Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 02:12 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Windows Event run Rev app ? Hello Any one know if there's a function in Rev to detect a Windows event ? detect a error log event or a registry change. What I mean by this is the Windows event executing the rev app ? MichaelD ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Help with Windows Registry
Mike, if the data is hex, dont use binary... See what the key contains first... -=- Xavier Bury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/08/2005 13:42:46: Hi Ray By reverse I would use queryRegistry and binaryDecode ?. - Original Message - From: Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Use Revolution List use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:14 AM Subject: Re: Help with Windows Registry On 8/11/05 6:59 AM, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I've run into getting the hexadecimal data from the windows registry. I need to pull the Value Data from a Dword Value but I just get a 0. I'm trying this: put queryRegistry(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\CurrentControSet\Control \IDConfigDB\Alias\0001\ProfileNumber\)into field tNum Do I need to convert this Value Data since its Hexadecimal or can the value be read and placed into a field without conversion ? Any help with this would be great Take a look at the tip at my site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/revolution.htm?_win001 This has to do with *setting* binary data in the registry, but you only need to do the reverse in order to retrieve it. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: # POSSIBLY SPAM #::Why can't I send tabKey?
Unless I'm losing it -- a distinct possibility -- there's an intriguing bug in Rev. I can use the send command to send all kinds of system messages to various objects. But if I try to send tabKey, with or without quotation marks and with or without a target, I always get a can't find handler error. Rev 2.6.1 on OS X 10.4.2. Can anyone confirm before I BZ this sucker? same with send ResizeStack I posted a mail to this respect some time ago... the trick is to on tabkey dotabkey end tabkey on dotabkey the script here end dotabkey send dotabkey... and that works! Note that if you do this with a stackinuse or frontscript and try to debug the doresizestack, you may crash rev (as usual) ;) cheers -=- Xavier Bury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/08/2005 08:37:59: Unless I'm losing it -- a distinct possibility -- there's an intriguing bug in Rev. I can use the send command to send all kinds of system messages to various objects. But if I try to send tabKey, with or without quotation marks and with or without a target, I always get a can't find handler error. Rev 2.6.1 on OS X 10.4.2. Can anyone confirm before I BZ this sucker? ~~ Dan Shafer, Revolution Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.revolutionpros.com, Click My Stuff ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Looking for suggestions/advice
Rodney, One way to go around this limitation is to build an interpreter for the users. What the users could do is work on a list of instructions that your script interpreter would execute for them. This way you dont have the 10 line limit... However you have to wrap into handlers all the instructions you need to execute... Depends on the breath of the application naturally. Writing an interpreter is not as hard as it seems. Word 1 is a verb like doget, doset, doplay, doprint, doput, etc... Checking the parameters after this verb is where it gets interesting but the simpler you make it, the easier naturally. cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/08/2005 09:31:20: By far the easiest way to handle this would be by exposing Transcript to your users. Send an email to the rev crew directly regarding your needs. The ten-line limit in executables is an artificial limit designed to prevent you from creating your own development environment in Rev and distributing it. It happened with SuperCard many years back. In the past, the rev crew have expressed at least a willingness to consider a separate license specifically to cover a situation like yours. Thanks for the advice Jeff. I agree with what you say as being best. I am creating a free program, so I don't want to spend more money on this hobby. I've already been paying for my Pro license each year. That is already more than I should spend on this product. I suppose that it wouldn't hurt to ask just in case they are willing to let me do it at no extra charge. Personally, I suspect it might end up selling a few extra licenses when people see what they can do so easily and I tell them where to go for an environment that would let them create programs of their own like that. But, short of that, does anyone have any other suggestions? -Rodney ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Help with Windows Registry
Michael it is in hex so you have to read it as a hex (if the value is larger than 9, a-f will not make sense in decimal notation... so yes, you need to read it, convert it to hex (via baseconvert for example)and then put it into the field for editing. Reverse the line above to write it... cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/08/2005 13:59:09: Hello I've run into getting the hexadecimal data from the windows registry. I need to pull the Value Data from a Dword Value but I just get a 0. I'm trying this: put queryRegistry(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\CurrentControSet\Control \IDConfigDB\Alias\0001\ProfileNumber\)into field tNum Do I need to convert this Value Data since its Hexadecimal or can the value be read and placed into a field without conversion ? Any help with this would be great MichaelD ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What's wrong with this?
GOOD Catch Dave!!! It crashes even MC2.6 put char 1 of test is a . -- in the msg but char 1 of astring is a period should work... but how come it compiles this error? put this to that -- outputs to the msg without compile errors... but it doesn't crash rev... happy bugzilla trip! Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/08/2005 15:53:12: Hi, I am getting a crashing problem in revolution when I do this: put empty into myNewList put the folders into myFolderList repeat for each line myFolder in myFolderList if char 1 of myFolder is a . then next repeat put myNewList myFolder into myNewList end repeat It crashes on the if statement, if I change it to this: if char 1 of myFolder = . then it works! Can't understand by RunRev should crash! All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Locking messages with palettes
thanks Eric... i was afraid this was the problem... -=- Xavier Bury Clearstream Services TNS NT LAN Server ext 36465 Voice: +352 4656 43 6465 Fax: +352 4656 493 6465 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/08/2005 08:31:04: Hi Xavier, Unfortunately, I confirm (Mac OS X - Rev 2.6): Lock messages is taken into account when using go or toplevel It's not when you use palette or modeless Worth to bugzilla it :-( Le 5 août 05 à 07:08, MisterX a écrit : In TAOO every message is intercepted just in case it may help... Im working on my new script editor plugin and the launcher bar then creates a new instance of the script editor window and palettizes it. Only TAOO was detecting as an object class object (because they share common elements). So i tried to lock messages (set the lockmessages to true) before i do palette script editor x But the TAOO interception still occured. So i found that if i Open the stack there's no problem, the lock messages is fine. But if i Palette the stack, the lock messages has no effect... Can anyone confirm this? Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Windows (*%()[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, it (the IDE) doesn't crash/quit unexpectedly in Windows 2003 when doubleclicking the topleft windows menubar icon. I tried this with the XP theme on... Ah, but slight difference, im use the MC IDE... sorry, dont have a rev ide to try it and little time today... I hope i got it right this time ;) cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/08/2005 06:53:17: MisterX- Thursday, August 4, 2005, 8:59:46 PM, you wrote: ahem... i've done that a few times and never had a crash... how did you manage? Rev didn't crash, it just exited. Turns out all Windows apps do this when you double-click the title bar icon. I tried it on MSWord just for fun. I've never used MSWord and fun in the same sentence before... ...although, speaking of MSWord, I have noticed that if you type the word cudgelation and request a spell check, the suggested substitution is cud elation. Now I'm not particulary perturbed by the fact that the word wasn't in the dictionary or possibly spelled incorrectly, but I'm quite boggled by why cud elation is in the MSWord default spelling dictionary and why it's the preferred option. And I'd prefer not to even think about *what* it is. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: me vs. this?
What I most don't understand (??) is the relation between me and this X when me is an instance of type X. Charles Charles me is used when an object queries it's own properties or objects. for example if i clicked in a field, the field script could ask: on mouseup get the hilitedline of me if line 3 of me is empty then print me same for a card or a stack or any object get the long name of me THIS is almost the same... get the long name of this card... Compared to ME, this can be used anywhere... Where as ME is restricted to the object querying for a property of itself. Get the number of cards in this stack or get the number of fields in this card cheers Xavier - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: global problems
Mark, globals are best used as environment variables. Not as persistent storage. Your example shows that if stack b opens and fails to work with a global, you didn't set a pre-requisite (nor a check) for xyz's conformity... that's asking for trouble. If stack B had this check, it could then as stack A to fill in xyz to later use it. In another case, if you close stack A and delete xyz without cheking if another stack could still use it, implies a fault in the logic of the program... So one solution in this case, would be to tell stack B to look into a custom property which stack A could preset for stack B before close. Seems like a shoot-yourself-in-your-own foot script to me ;) no... I declare globals sometimes thinking I'll need them for cross-stack variables, then usually rethink things and can do without them. But then they're still in memory causing trouble. I've used dozens of globals in XOS for 15 years without ONE problem... creating them on the fly, closing stacks, etc... but one thing i do always is to check first for existence and validity... with that, you've got yourself a lifesaver for every occasion... And if i open a stack that requires a specific global, it checks first to make sure that it is properly initialized or that it knows how to initialize it or to call the stack that will. programming is a process... cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/08/2005 08:37:43: Brian- Monday, August 1, 2005, 6:56:19 PM, you wrote: For me, the rationale is simple: globals are the ONLY way to have data which is _not_ stack specific. As such, closing or modifying a stack should never delete global data. I still don't get this. Can you give me an example of something you'd declare as a global and *want* it to stick around when the stack that declared it is closed? Perhaps what you're really looking for is a stack-level local variable? no... I declare globals sometimes thinking I'll need them for cross-stack variables, then usually rethink things and can do without them. But then they're still in memory causing trouble. I'm thinking the seeming oddity of the situation has something to do with the loose restrictions on declarations in xTalk, and the runtime nature. In other languages, if you removed all references to a global and recompiled, of course it would disappear...? ...which is what I expected to happen here... my bad. Here's a problem scenario as a gedanken-experiment: Open stack A stack A has the global gXYZ *and* puts a value into gXYZ finish working with stack A, close and remove from memory Open stack B stack B also declared global gXYZ now stack B is open and has a value in gXYZ but never initializes it exit the IDE Relaunch the IDE Open stack B now stack B has no value in gXYZ and some functions fail that rely on gXYZ -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
re : Objet : [OT] Software Carpentry
Nice Pierre Java try to be... XTalks (Metacard, Rev, Supercard,..) are, pratically, doing what the author expect to get from J2EE ;-) Except for one small detail... threading... ;) XB - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: global problems
it's not different. The global is persistent until you delete it. So if you delete your global and rerun your script (as you would recompile in other langs), the global wont show up again. I thought i had demonstrated that with my script in the little mail following the question yesterday... cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/08/2005 14:01:33: In other languages, if you removed all references to a global and recompiled, of course it would disappear...? Exactly! This is SO counterintuitive, no matter how useful it might be I NEVER would have even considered that the language might behave in this way. Another issue for the Intro For Newbies? :) Jon Brian Yennie wrote: Global properties do! For me, the rationale is simple: globals are the ONLY way to have data which is _not_ stack specific. As such, closing or modifying a stack should never delete global data. Perhaps what you're really looking for is a stack-level local variable? I'm thinking the seeming oddity of the situation has something to do with the loose restrictions on declarations in xTalk, and the runtime nature. In other languages, if you removed all references to a global and recompiled, of course it would disappear...? Right... well, the point I was trying to make is that there's *nothing* else that has this persistence. Maybe I chose a bad example. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: global problems
have you tried global x2 put 5 into x2 delete global x2 get the globalnames replace comma with cr in it put it i dont see x2 anymore... -=- Xavier Bury Clearstream Services TNS NT LAN Server ext 36465 Voice: +352 4656 43 6465 Fax: +352 4656 493 6465 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/08/2005 09:28:27: Ken- Of course, I managed to poke around a bit and get this to happen. I knew there was *something going on*. Here's the real problem - doesn't have anything to do with loop indices at all: Global variables are persistent in memory, even when they've been purged. Once you have declared a global variable, even if you have deleted the line of code that declared it, you're stuck with it. You can't change it into a local variable and you can't have another local variable with the same name, even in a different stack, without invoking a compiler error about the local variable name shadowing another. BZ #3038 -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Windows Command Help
Dan if you type echo %ProgramFiles% you will get the path by default were apps are installed you can do a find using the F3 or WindowKey+F and search for acrobat... if the exe is not in your paths then, there's no way windows will go looking for it... I just tried it D:\NBU 5.0\Docstart MediaMgr_AdminGuide_SSO.pdf it works... cheers -=- Xavier Bury Clearstream Services TNS NT LAN Server ext 36465 Voice: +352 4656 43 6465 Fax: +352 4656 493 6465 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 29/07/2005 07:03:22: Not on this end. Well, I should say that I tried it directly in the shell, not from Rev. There, I typed: start blah\blah\doc.pdf It opened a new command line window and stared at me. I'll try it tomorrow from inside Rev. Dan On Jul 28, 2005, at 7:51 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: get shell(start tPathToDocument) -- works for me ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: [OT] Windows Command Help
Jon Nice and extensive! ;) Here's the simple form i use in my file browser if the platform is Win32 then put queryRegistry(HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.ftype\) into thisappClass put queryRegistry(HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\thisappClass\shell\open\command\) into thisapp delete word 2 of thisapp -- %1 if thisapp is not empty then launch (quote fld path thisfile quote) with thisapp get the result end if cheers -=- Xavier Bury Clearstream Services TNS NT LAN Server ext 36465 Voice: +352 4656 43 6465 Fax: +352 4656 493 6465 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 29/07/2005 15:37:17: There are a number of nuances to this issue, depending on which windows system you are using, etc... I pieced together the following script from scripts that others created for this purpose. (Just so no one thinks I am stealing someone else's thunder.) It seems to work pretty well... on launchdocument pWhich if there is not a file pWhich then exit launchdocument revSetWindowsShellCommand put revRunningWindowsNT() into tNT if the platform is Win32 then replace / with \ in pWhich --put file:/// before pWhich set the itemdelimiter to . put the last item of pWhich into tExtension put HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\. tExtension \ into tQuery put queryRegistry(tQuery) into tApp PUT HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\ tApp \shell\open\command\ into tQuery put queryRegistry(tQuery) into tAppCommand put word 1 of tAppCommand into tAppCommand replace quote with empty in tAppCommand if not tNT then get shell(start quote tAppCommand quote quote pWhich quote) else set the hideconsolewindows to false open process (tAppCommand quote pWhich quote) for neither end if put the result into tResult --answer tResult if tResult = not opened then if tAppCommand = empty then answer I'm sorry, but your computer does not have an application associated with that file extension. Shall I attempt to open it with your browswer? with yes and no if it is yes then revgourl pWhich end if else get shell(start quote tAppCommand quote quote pWhich quote) if the result empty then answer I'm afraid I was unable to open the document with the associated application. Shall I attempt to open it with your browser instead? with yes and no if it is yes then revgourl pWhich end if end if end if end if -- else if the platform is MacOS then --if appleScript is not in the alternateLanguages then -- return Error: AppleScript not installed --end if --do (open location quote pWhich quote) as appleScript -- else --if gREVWebBrowser is empty --then launch mozilla quote pWhich quote --else launch gREVWebBrowser quote pWhich quote end if end launchdocument -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian K. Maher Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 8:59 AM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: [OT] Windows Command Help Hi Jon, In Rev just use the shell. The command would be start you_file_name_goes_here. Brian - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Urgent (desperate) cry for help...
according to my version here in Win2003 (like XP), i also get URLencode(Coördinator)=Co%F6rdinator so i would assume the problem to be with the urlencode function or the way windows and mac differ on that kind of translation... Oh yes... macs and pcs dont encode ö as the same ASCII so it must be perfectly normal sorry for the bad news... -=- Xavier Bury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 28/07/2005 14:58:41: I know I'm doing something wrong, there has to be a better way, but I just can't figure out what I'm doing wrong... Situation: - mySQL 4.1 running on a windows server - RR 2.6 OSX Windows XP - Clients need to be Mac OS9, Mac OS-X and Windows XP I started development on the OS-X. Data in a field on a card needs to be stored in the database. No problem there for regular text, but when entering text with special chars in, it's a no-go... The word Coördinator appears in the database as Co. In a clever moment (at least that's what I thought), very early in the project, I implemented the URLencode and URLdecode functions to get rid of this pesky little problem. Then D-Day arrived: We had to install at the client the first beat- version of the program, to start testing. First the OS-X Macs: Works like a charm. Then the Windows machines... No way of getting the data in the correct way out of the database! URLencode(Coördinator) on OSX stores Co%9Ardinator in the database URLencode(Coördinator) on Windows stores Co%F6rdinator in the database URLdecode of the Mac-encoded data on the PC obviously returns the wrong data :-(( The tables in mySQL are set to accept UTF-8, when I enter the text manually there is no problem with special chars, so it is RR needing something special. Anyone, HELP, PLEASE - Waht is the best way to communicate with mySQL? - Why is the URLencode different on both platforms WITHOUT ANY NOTIFICATION IN THE MANUAL? - And of course: What is the proper way to enter and retrieve data in and out a mySQL? The URLencode/decode stuff shocked me, the main problem must be something stupid... Many thanks in advance, Ton Kuypers Digital Media Partners bvba Tel. +32 (0)477 / 739 530 Fax +32 (0)14 / 71 03 04 http://www.dmp-int.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Shell start with value
For most shell batches, if found it extremely useful to 1 test it in a real batch... this proves the shell command HAS to work 2 put the whole shell command into a variable - this makes it easier to debug... 3 Always enclose the paths (or verify that it needs) with quotes. The verification is real easy: if there is a space in mypath or is in mypath then quoteit(mypath) Last but not least, and this is a real tough one to find: make sure that the directory is a valid path before launching your shell. hope that gets you going! cheers -=- Xavier Bury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 27/07/2005 12:22:14: Ok should have given it 10 more minutes, Now I'm seeing it ! got the line to work thanks for the direction, got it this way, put setx iploc quote tiPadd quote -m into sSetenv get shell (sSetenv) set the hideConsoleWindows to true Thanks !! MisterX On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 06:47 +0200, MisterX wrote: for one, if there is a space in location, this will fail. You will need to eclose it in quotes. Second the iploc and tipadd are strings not values in the quotes. get shell (start quote location setx.exe quote IPLoc tIPadd) should work better cheers Xavier http://monsieurx.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 06:39 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Shell start with value Hello, Have run into something I just seem to not solve and asking if someone may have an answer to this one. I'm running the shell command for and environment add and need to add the value with it, but of couse just get IPLOC=tIPadd. tIPadd is the value of and ipaddress. Anyone know how I can get this in there, its WinXP so I'm using the setx.exe file to get the environment add global. get shell (start location setx.exe IPLoc tIPadd) Thanks for any help Michael ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: empty ask result + ok = result:cancel
Joel, Thanks, Eric told me offlist about this version problem. I uploaded this morning the fix and it works as expected. I also closed the bug... Thanks for the help Cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 26/07/2005 09:46:00: Dear Mister X, I mentioned such a bug (#3019) in build 91 and it has been wonderfully fixed for the current downloable build. In the msg box, put version(), buildnumber() should reply 2.6.5,108. Otherwise download and reinstall Rev 2.6 again. Also I agree with Eric, you should place the result() function just after the ask statement: ask Replace what: with lselection if result() is cancel then exit mouseup put it into x Hope this help. Joel G Le 25 juil. 05 à 04:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 20:04:06 +0200 From: MisterX [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... ask Replace what: with lselection put it into x get the result if it is cancel then exit mouseup ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ChatRev DOWN!
who said they didn't care? ChatRev is by far the best communications channel for RunRev ;) I care! ;) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 26/07/2005 12:34:48: Hi all I know that most of you don't care, but ChatRev is up again, chat away! Bjoernke -- http://contest.wecode.org Now running: the first ChatRev coding contest! sponsors: Altuit Andre Garzia Fourth World Karl Becker Runtime Revolution TidBITS in cooperation with eHUG ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Another Doc Thought
Hi guys,
i've had it happened too. Now, im more careful...
you can always make sure you have selected your control by double clicking
it...
cheers
Xavier
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 26/07/2005 15:39:34:
That happens to me all the time. I just change the name of the main
stack
back. I think it happens when you think a particular object is selected
and
it is actually the main stack that is selected.
But how would you fix this?
On 7/26/05 9:12 AM, Charles Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
some point (??) I discover that in the locked Inspector the name of
my main stack has been changed. (The title of the Inspector window
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Re: # PROBABLY SPAM #::URL path to Windows server?
K all you need is to mount the drive and copy. use the net use command. It has all the parameters you speak of. (type net help use for instructions on how to use it) Another way, assuming you have administrator priviledges is to use a simple shell copy command... the put url will only work with case 1... cheers X [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 25.07.2005 08:48:50: If I use the 'get URL' and 'put x into URL' command to get and put data from and into a file:path/data.txt file... how do I do that when the data is to be held on a network server? This'll be a Windows server; in one instance a steam-driven Win98 thing, in the other instance something far more up to date. I don't have one to play with right now, and I'd rather avoid ending up thrashing about experimenting too much when I can get to one. But I'm worried about how to handle access permissions to the file. This is one of the ways recommended for handling (basic) multiple-person access to a data source file, and it makes lots of sense in most ways - but I can't see how to build in the username/password fileserver access aspect. k ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Indexing mail list messages
Al, To remove the RevWordDefitiency, just replace , with in yourtext do the same for any punctuation, and all non-wordy characters the RevWordDefitiency implies! cheers Xavier On 22/07/2005 14:55:42 use-revolution-bounces wrote: on Fri, 22 Jul 2005 Dave Cragg wrote: Just one small observation: repeat for each line w in fileContent add 1 to mylinecount repeat for each word z in w put mylinecount comma after wordCount[z] end repeat end repeat z will include any puntuation attached to words, so script,script,, script?, etc. will be indexed separately. (Unless I missed the point where you accounted for this.) You are right. This first version handler will include words with any punctuation attached. This is wrong. :-( i'm working to apply the advices that alex and brian generously provide last night. When i have a complete handler that implements all their recomendations, i'll post the results. Did you have a regex that could handle these words with punctuation? Thanks in advance. al Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: # POSSIBLY SPAM #::Anomolous is among
Fantastic, we have quantum word amongness functions in rev now ;) Reminds me the joke: Q: Ever seen an elephant hidden behind a light post? A: no... Reply: Well hidden, wasn't it? ;)) On 22/07/2005 14:14:59 use-revolution-bounces wrote: put penguin is among the words of 1 2 3 4 = FALSE put penguin is among the words of 1 2 3 4 = TRUE hmm. Comments? /H ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: going nuts again
Thanks Chipp, I'll give it an idle try ;) Is this a problem only on windoze or Mac also? Now, i can confirm it also happens on win2000, XP and 2003! After deleting the images, deleting the buttons, recreating the buttons, the images (to revspec) reimporting them, reseting the patterns on the buttons, i noticed that one button still screws up. Last thing i saw (but not the first time) is that if the button is autohilite - when you click the button the pattern goes black... Weird indeed... I'll keep trying to isolate this but it's the damnation of any theme group i create... There's always one or the other control screwing up... no matter how i reset it... cheers Xavier On 21/07/2005 07:56:31 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Hi X, I think you need the following: on idle reset all the background of all the buttons to what they should be end idle :-) Seriously, Here's how I'd approach it: Step 1: Can I programatically 'reset' the backgrounds by: set the backgroundPattern of btn myButt to set the backgroundPattern of btn myButt to img moon or if that doesn't work try setting the bgPattern to one texture, then the other, then back to the first. See if toggling it in this manner doesn't provide results. Try inserting a 'set alwaysBuffer to false' then back to true in-between. Just some ideas. Step 2: If you can 'force' a reset programatically, then you may need to fire a handler every so often to check. best, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PC/x-platform development (was Re: embed/install font)
Brad, I dont think nothing is stopping you from copying your stack to a mac and running it via a demo player... Once the stack is made (on a PC for example), i dont think you need to recompile it to run on Macs or Linux. But i could be wrong... cheers Xavier On 21/07/2005 16:04:00 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Ah, but I only have the Mac development platform. I guess that argues for me to get the PC platform. Which raises a couple of points: 1) I got tired of paying Macromedia for the right to develop on two platforms. Every time Director upgraded, I had to shell out another $800 for the upgrade on both platforms. I'm glad that Rev Studio on the Mac creates xplatform executables, but it sure would be nice to have both platforms included in the purchase of the product. 2) As the development platform depends on the player, would it be possible to create a limited development stack that would basically allow the testing of commands (like you list below) that would be interpreted by the player? I guess the issue comes down to this: In director you could get away with creating movies that were playable on a PC using a stub projector (essentially a player). It was doable, but troubleshooting was a real PITA. I'm thinking the same it true of Rev? Trevor DeVore wrote: If you set the externals property of a stack while the stack is open then you need to do one of two things to load the external: 1) Set the destroyWindow property of the stack to true. Close the stack window and open it again. 2) Remove the stack from memory. Open it again. Here is a snippet of code that will create a new stack, set the externals property and load the exteranl. You can run this in the multiline message box: create stack MyStack set the destroyWindow of stack MyStack to true set the externals of stack MyStack to EnhancedWin.dll close stack MyStack go stack MyStack put the externalPackages of stack MyStack ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Web site security using Rev
This is not something the cgi can do if you dont go via the cgi. Going to sub folders is not something the cgi will detect (AFAIK). Permissions should be set either at the ftp level or in IIS via the IIS Manager, or the NT permissions. Sorry, dont know about apache but i think that falls in the ftp permissions. cheers Xavier On 20/07/2005 07:43:38 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Has anybody used Rev to password protect a section of a website, rather than using ASP or CF or other database solution? Just a basic login page, and if anyone tries to go directly to a subdirectory of the login page, without logging in, they get bounced back to the login page? CGI can do this. Anyone have a demo stack or tutorial? Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Web site security using Rev
Jim Sorry, it's not how i had read it (missing details?) Yes, in that case it is possible to have the cgi verify the security of a section which you can preset wantonly. cheers Xavier On 20/07/2005 14:48:51 use-revolution-bounces wrote: OK, I may be spacing out here, but HTML an call a CGI script with parms, which, in turn, can make the HTML dynamic. I just thought this would be a convenient way to experiment with Rev CGI. It's a small number pages. -Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Web site security using Rev This is not something the cgi can do if you dont go via the cgi. Going to sub folders is not something the cgi will detect (AFAIK). Permissions should be set either at the ftp level or in IIS via the IIS Manager, or the NT permissions. Sorry, dont know about apache but i think that falls in the ftp permissions. cheers Xavier On 20/07/2005 07:43:38 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Has anybody used Rev to password protect a section of a website, rather than using ASP or CF or other database solution? Just a basic login page, and if anyone tries to go directly to a subdirectory of the login page, without logging in, they get bounced back to the login page? CGI can do this. Anyone have a demo stack or tutorial? Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Global scope of functions
Hi Rob Yes, that's the way. However if it is only one card, clarity can be improved if your card related scripts are in the card scripts and the stack-only related scripts reside in the stack script. This is IMOHO the best way for future expansions of the software. If you have more than one card (in a background group for example) then it's best to keep things in the background script instead of the card. The card script being only local to that card. Naturally the stack script applies again here. But if there are 2 backgrounds, then the stack scripts may introduce conflicts between group operations... The advantage of the stack script is that it sees it all in the stack... cheers Xavier On 14/07/2005 08:57:18 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Dear Colleagues I'm producing a new tool for my research, and I'm trying to do this 'properly'. In other words, I am trying to cut down the amount of coding scattered through the application (buttons, menus etc) and put calls to functions or handlers at these locations. I then assemble all the functions and handlers in the stack script (app is a 1 card stack). Is this the logical way forward, or have others found better ways? -- All best wishes, Rob (Created at 07:52 on 14/07/2005) == Prof. Rob Beynon|+44 151 794 4312 (voice) Dept. Veterinary Preclinical|+44 151 794 4243 (fax) Sciences, University of Liverpool, Crown Street, Liverpool L69 7ZJ |mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.liv.ac.uk/pfg|http://www.csiv.org == ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Newbie Question
Hi Hamburger You can either do a frontscript or the good old stackinuse cheers Xavier On 14/07/2005 13:55:25 use-revolution-bounces wrote: I'm in the process of switching from HyperCard. I put several handlers functions in my home stack that are used in other stacks. Where do I put these scripts in Revolution? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Folder size
Chris, Is this for Mac or PC? If it is for PC, there's a utility called diruse.exe in the Moft Resource kit that does this quite nicely... cheers Xavier On 12/07/2005 17:17:56 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Hello folks - Anyone know if there is an easy way in Rev of getting the size of a folder (together with all it's sub-folders). I know I can do a loop using detailed files and detailed folders but that seems a bit long-winded, and I'm sure I'd be re-inventing the wheel! Is there another way, or is there an existing function anywhere that I can pinch? TIA Chris ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ResizeStack help, please
Jon I can confirm that resizestack works in cards, backgrounds or stacks and even frontscripts (just be careful debuging them)... im sure the error is elsewhere cheers Xavier On 13.07.2005 15:11:37 use-revolution-bounces wrote: I have a handler in my Stack that displays an image. In order to get the size of the image right, I have some special code to do the scaling. In order to keep the image looking right when the user resizes the card/stack, I wrote a ResizeStack handler and put the image scaling code in the ResizeStack handler. First confusion. The name of the handler is ResizeStack, but it doesn't seem to work when it is put in the Stack. The documentation says that the message is sent to the Card, not the Stack, so I moved the handler to the Card, but it still is not called. Does it matter where the ResizeStack handler is located? This is more confusing than one would hope it would be. Jon ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Window Positioning Bug? [WORKAROUND]
Guys, Also, once you select the window, type alt-space - (the menu of the window (topleft corner) will drop down, and all you need is to type M (as in Move) and then use the arrows to put it back where you want it. Type C to close the darn thing ;) set the loc of this stack to 100,100 -- (or the mouseloc) should work also... cheers Xav On 13.07.2005 15:19:57 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Charles, I don't know about Mac, but in the case of Windows, and only for screens with a title bar, that show up in the Taskbar (Documentation window has one, Application Browser doesn't), you can right click on the window in your Taskbar and select Move, and then use the appropriate cursor keys to inch the window back on to your main monitor, from a monitor that has been removed. Now I suppose, if somebody knows the names of the Application Browser and Reference Documentation stacks, you could use your Message Box to set their Locations back to your main monitor. Anyone? Jim -Original Message- From: Charles Hartman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 2:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Window Positioning Bug? [WORKAROUND] On Jul 13, 2005, at 7:40 AM, Jim Bufalini wrote: This raises a second question, though. I run two monitors. How does Rev address the second or more monitors (I believe the limit software wise in WinXP is 9 monitors)? I notice, for example that the Documentation screen reliably comes back, where I left it, on my second screen. Yes -- what it does _not_ do is come back (at all!) if it last appeared on the second screen and if the second screen was since disconnected. So -- But, the Application Browser never returns to the second screen. -- Rev seems to have a general problem with second displays on Mac. I should mention, my two screens have different resolutions, which is not uncommon. Charles Hartman Professor of English, Poet in Residence Connecticut College [EMAIL PROTECTED] *the Scandroid* is at cherry.conncoll.edu/cohar/Programs.htm ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Transfering stack between WinXP and MacOS9
Any illegal file name characters (:) in the name maybe? just a thought... On 11/07/2005 11:53:33 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Hi list, I'm facing a problem for the 1st time : I have a stack built on MacOS9 which I transfered safely to WinXP (zipped file via ftp). After improving a few thing on Win, I'd like to transfer it back on OS9. But whatever method I try, I get the message stack corrupted when opening it on Mac... Both versions of the stack (Mac Win) feature the same number of bytes, and it still opens OK on Win... Such stack transfer is something I've done for years, either with MC or Rev stacks... Any clue ? Thanks, JB ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Transfering stack between WinXP and MacOS9
JB, Maybe a byte by byte file comparison could help... cheers X On 11/07/2005 12:04:15 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Nope, the file name is very straightforward : Demo.rev (actually the same name as the original MacOS9 stack). However, I'm wondering : the stack on WinXP has been configured (via the Standalone application settings menu) before being saved as a standalone (of course, it's the source code that I'm trying to transfer)... Could it be the origin of the problem ? Thanks, JB Any illegal file name characters (:) in the name maybe? just a thought... On 11/07/2005 11:53:33 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Hi list, I'm facing a problem for the 1st time : I have a stack built on MacOS9 which I transfered safely to WinXP (zipped file via ftp). After improving a few thing on Win, I'd like to transfer it back on OS9. But whatever method I try, I get the message stack corrupted when opening it on Mac... Both versions of the stack (Mac Win) feature the same number of bytes, and it still opens OK on Win... Such stack transfer is something I've done for years, either with MC or Rev stacks... Any clue ? Thanks, JB ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revDeleteFolder and Lessons Learned..
Chipp, I did send a previous warning about these revhandlers 2 months ago... http://mail.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2005-May/057551.html cheers Xavier - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revDeleteFolder and Lessons Learned..
Guys, Why not ask a professional? :) I delete production files in a huge huge file system among 20 each day. I CANNOT make a mistake when i delete these things... We're talking banking production... This is what i use for the past 4 years without ONE error... It works in NT4, NT2000 and XP. Note that the path furnished needs to be \ and not / delimited. cheers Xavier function DeleteDir apath if is in apath or is in apath and quote is not in apath then put quote apath quote into apath set the itemdelimiter to \ get last item of shrname if char -1 of it is quote then delete last char of it if $ is in char -1 of it then delete char -1 of it if length(it) = 1 or it = IPC then return Danger: trying to delete a system share! shrname end if get shell(rd apath /s /q) return it end DeleteDir On 08/07/2005 13:58:29 use-revolution-bounces wrote: On 8 Jul 2005, at 12:22, Alex Tweedly wrote: Chipp Walters wrote: Hi Dave, Well, since I passed revDeleteFolder a single / and it tried to delete (w/out being able to be interrupted) the *entire* hard disk, I would say it's less dangerous to 'roll your own'. I would expect revDeleteFolder to take as an argument a valid path, including drive letter. For instance I would expect: revDeleteFolder C:/ to delete the C drive. I don't know why just / does it and I'm afraid to test it with a null, especially since it can't be interrupted. Anything you roll on your own can be interrupted with a control-period. / works because / is a valid directory specifier for Rev. You can do set the defaultFolder to / and it does; you don't need a drive specifier. Come to think of it, you can do it in a Windows shell (or whatever a DOS box is called these days) - cd \ works. Interesting, as there is a folder / returns false on XP and true on OS X. Which could prove an insidious danger. I think it would be good to have an optional parameter pConfirm which would require a user confirmation for each directory (or maybe even each file ?). That would make it much more comfortable to develop and test an application without fear of inadvertently passing a bad starting directory, and the parameter could be reverted to (the default of) off before shipping. Sounds good. Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revDeleteFolder and Lessons Learned..
You're too funny Klaus, That's the script i use professionally... On EMC TB storage. When it comes to delete 10 millions files... There's no way I'd use Rev-Anything... I tested it for a minor monthly deletejob and it didn't even work for the test. So... So, if you ask a professional that does this kind of stuff for the past 6 years? First test this on a test drive (or mountpoint). Never on your data or OS drive... Then implement... Chipp seems to know what i mean now ;) cheers Xavier On 08/07/2005 14:38:22 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Bonjour Xavier, Guys, Why not ask a professional? :) A VERY good idea! Do you happen to know one? :-D Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Suggestion for correcting the IDE's script editor
Jim, Bob, I agree with you. However remember that you can use anything to edit the script... put the script of the selobj into fld 1 of stack myeditor and set the script of the selobj to fld 1 of stack Myeditor Note that the plugin architecture of RunRev permits to trap the RevEditScript handler so you can insert your own plugin in there. so if your stack is a plug in and has the corresponding RevEditScript message handler in its' stack script on RevEditScript put the script of the selobj into fld 1 of stack myeditor end RevEditScript then, you're near home free ;-) except for all the good features i'll be releasing soon ;) The debugging however doesn't require tabs so using Rev's SE to do this shouldn't be too shocking ;) As far as i know there isn't a plugin hook to debug. And the RevEditScript has to be tested still (last i did, all i managed was to crash Rev but this is apparently fixed). As a PC user, the Rev Script Editor has come a long way to something that's more than quite useable and simple to use. Im sure you'll get used to it (as Mark said) before you know it or get used to your own way ;) cheers Xavier http://monsieurx.com On 01/07/2005 14:27:26 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Bob, A very reasonable post. As a PC programmer, the Tab key was news to me also. In the interest of discussion here's another idea: Over the years, I have found that editors (and word processors) are like religions. Everyone likes the one they are used to and are willing to go to war over it. Maybe the answer is, and I don't even know if this is possible in the Rev paradigm, is to give users a choice by allowing them to use 3rd party editors. The problem (and fear) here usually is that the debugging facilities of the IDE won't integrate with a 3rd party editor. So, maybe instead of trying to make The Editor a one size fits all (which will never happen), publish a standard against which 3rd party programmers can write alternate editors, which the debugger, and other elements of the IDE will use in the same fashion that it uses The Editor. There could be a list of approved editors and a place in Preferences to pick the one you are using. In the long run, I believe, this would be less programming for the Rev folks and more opportunity for the independent developer. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Warren Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:21 PM To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Suggestion for correcting the IDE's script editor Can we go back to where it all started? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
what happened to my posts?
Hi all, I posted 3 or 4 emails since yesterday from my home mail adand none made it in the list? Any clues? TIA cheers Xavier - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: what happened to my posts?
Well, i was just holding my breath and nothing... ;) now i can breathe ;) Thanks Eric! Xav On 30/06/2005 08:43:26 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Hi Xavier, The same for me so I reposted... and they appeared 24 hours later... Be patient ;-) Simple new server start problem... Le 30 juin 05 à 08:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Hi all, I posted 3 or 4 emails since yesterday from my home mail adand none made it in the list? Any clues? TIA cheers Xavier Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: # POSSIBLY SPAM #::Rev Toolbar Group button - How does it work?!
Hi Tim, Look at the selectedobjectchanged message. You can see what is in the selection via the selectedobjcets or selobjs function cheers Xavier On 27/06/2005 10:10:03 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Hi All, I am trying to get the same effect as the Rev team have done with the Group button on the top toobar. When you click on an object with the pointer tool, the Group button on the toolbar immediately becomes available. Likewise, when you deselect the object, the Group button becomes disabled. How can I do this in my own stack? I can't work out what message to trap, as it seems that much fewer messages are sent when the pointer tool is selected, as compared to the browse tool. Many thanks, Timothy Due http://www.leaf25.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: # POSSIBLY SPAM #::Array debugging - what a user-candy joke!
well, apologies, you can see the values thanks to Pat's mention of a hidden column... Damn i feel stupid now... But with most debugger windows being resized by default with that pane hidden, it's like the message watcher with the misplaced buttons or the reverror dialog hidding the abort button! How come this doesn't bother anyone? why is this not fixed after 2 versions? Presentation is the #1 factor and sometimes, for the professional developpers among us, this falls really short of being pleasant sometimes. grrr on me Xavier On 08/06/2005 07:05:55 use-revolution-bounces wrote: While Kevin said they put significant effort into new features i find the array debugging totally useless - you can't see what any array element holds! You're still forced to dump the element into a variable to see what's in it... You can't filter keys (if you have more than 30 for example)... And you can't modify them either during runtime... Man, these are features that have been shown and done for decades even in ThinkC! At least there's quite a bit of anoying and demo-embarassing features that were removed from the script editor... Im significantly disarrayed as to what constitutes user-valuable development features in rev's plan... cheers Xavier ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: who's out there?
Chipp, For the third time, removing the breakpoint MAY work but NOT always... There's a 2nd reference to the breakpoint written in the revcustom properties that is not cleaned up. The only solution in existence is my stack the Breakpoints navigator. And 2.6 still crashes with these issues (took 2 minutes to findout!)... You can download the Breakpoints Nav here http://www.monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=180 cheers Xavier On 06/06/2005 21:49:29 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Chipp: If you're refering to problems with breakpoints, yes, I did see your comment, and I have removed all breakpoints. Another defect in the IDE (breakpoints not moving with lines during edits, as is the case with Delphi). IMO, finding problems with no known fixes are much more critical than ones which can be fixed. I somewhat agree. I would agree more strongly if Rev came with a ReadMe file that explained all of the ways things might screw up and all of the workarounds. Just letting people like me find them by shooting themselves in the foot is not the way to get The Rest Of Us to be very happy with Rev. OTOH, that list might be so large that no one would read it sick grin :) Jon Chipp Walters wrote: Jon, I wrote a succinct reply to this bug, which if you adhere to, will solve this problem. Did you take notice? While it doesn't excuse the bug, it does show that if you have a bit of prior knowledge you can easily sidestep it. IMO, finding problems with no known fixes are much more critical than ones which can be fixed. best, Chipp Jon wrote: I'd say when an IDE simply disappears from the screen when you try to click on the Files menu; ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Uh-oh.... Anybody following WWDC?
A bit OT but you'll see my point... The theory is that Wintel (or at least Windows) users need to upgrade more frequently (because every new version of Windows is more bloated - apparently new versions of OS X have been the same or even more efficient). If you had 2 users each buy a machine at the same time Windows users upgrades his machine every year Mac user upgrades his machine every 3 years That's in theory... my 5 year old PC still runs and doesnt' need any updates in terms of server use. But as far as most of my pc aquaintances, most of the time we just swap a cpu, swap a hard drive and DONE... No need to buy a new PC. Just like old mac accelerators (but much cheaper, much better supported too (driver and support wise). Last time i did this (to improve GTR's speed), the mother board cost 50$ and the CPU+ram 400 more. Done... No 1000+$ hardware expenses... And i got room for lots more drivers (compared to a minimac)... So are you just searching for justifications or excuses to stay on the mac or what? cheers Xavier - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: two questions (was Re: Uh-oh.... Anybody following WWDC?)
on the same subject: only fools dont change their mind/opinion... I've embraced Windows and given the trade-of between eye-candy and speed, i'll take speed any day. On the GUI side, Moft has made lots of advances that no longuer make the Mac superior - actually, given the enterprise world in which most computers are used, most of Mac's OS technologies usually come with a severe problem of over-simplicity and the only real advantage i've seen Mac's keep is applescripts - but given it's speed and awkward language, it wasn't hard to give up... And now, i run my own MacOS/PC/XOS hybrid GUI on Rev anywhere I go... the less you depend on a given technology, the better off you are in the long term and im quite happy with my decision 5 years ago to switch to PCs. As the TAO said: how easily will an inflexible branch break in the wind... cheers Xavier On 06/06/2005 21:42:53 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Andre- Monday, June 6, 2005, 11:47:25 AM, you wrote: AG man, I am both afraid and curious. Me, I'm secretly looking forward to hacking one of these things with an overclocked AMD CPU. Whee! Think different is so last year. - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
