Re: [ANN] StackRunner 1.0

2005-09-07 Thread Ken Ray
On 9/7/05 2:20 PM, "Dom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ken Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Just a quick note to let you all know that I have uploaded a standalone
>> application called "StackRunner" which is similar to the DreamCard Player in
>> that it will "play" your MetaCard or Revolution stacks, but it is much
>> simpler and doesn't present any user-interface elements so it runs
>> "cleaner".
> 
> Note that the "StackRunner" name is already used by another program (not
> a recent one, though)
> 
> I googled to find *your* program, and found this one:
> 
> What is StackRunner!? StackRunner from Symmetry Software claims to let
> you install an engine into a HyperCard stack, making it into a Run-time
> stack. This deserves a closer look to determine its true usefulness.
> 
> http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.07/07.10/StackRunner/

Wow... honestly I didn't do a search because it's an "internal" tool to me,
but it's good to know anyway...

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [ANN] StackRunner 1.0

2005-09-07 Thread Dom
Ken Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Just a quick note to let you all know that I have uploaded a standalone
> application called "StackRunner" which is similar to the DreamCard Player in
> that it will "play" your MetaCard or Revolution stacks, but it is much
> simpler and doesn't present any user-interface elements so it runs
> "cleaner".

Note that the "StackRunner" name is already used by another program (not
a recent one, though)

I googled to find *your* program, and found this one:

What is StackRunner!? StackRunner from Symmetry Software claims to let
you install an engine into a HyperCard stack, making it into a Run-time
stack. This deserves a closer look to determine its true usefulness.

http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.07/07.10/StackRunner/
-- 
Revolutionario

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Re: [ANN] StackRunner 1.0

2005-09-06 Thread Ken Ray
On 9/6/05 7:16 PM, "Chipp Walters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hmmm.
> 
> Maybe a better solution is to use a frontscript. Check for the
> closeStack message and count the number of openstacks. If it's only 1
> then quit, else pass closeStack.

Good idea, Chipp... I'll put it into the next version!

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
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Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [ANN] StackRunner 1.0

2005-09-06 Thread Chipp Walters

Hmmm.

Maybe a better solution is to use a frontscript. Check for the 
closeStack message and count the number of openstacks. If it's only 1 
then quit, else pass closeStack.


-Chipp

Chipp Walters wrote:

I'm not exactly sure how to fix this best. I suppose having a 'send 
message' to check the openStacks() every minute or so would do it. In my 
case, I keep the orig stack wd open (very small) and it kills the app 
when it's closed. I understand this isn't a good way for StackRunner to 
work, as you want to get completely out of the way.


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Re: [ANN] StackRunner 1.0

2005-09-06 Thread Chipp Walters

Hey Ken, great stuff.

I use a similar 'launcer app' to debug. One thing I noticed with 
StackRunner is that it stays open in memory even though all the windows 
(stacks) are closed (XP). This is a potential problem, as it opens up 
successive instances of itself each time it's launched. Thus the user 
can 'think' they've quit the stack (and StackRunner), but it's still in 
memory.


I'm not exactly sure how to fix this best. I suppose having a 'send 
message' to check the openStacks() every minute or so would do it. In my 
case, I keep the orig stack wd open (very small) and it kills the app 
when it's closed. I understand this isn't a good way for StackRunner to 
work, as you want to get completely out of the way.


Anyway, just my 2 cents worth.

Ken Ray wrote:

Just a quick note to let you all know that I have uploaded a standalone
application called "StackRunner" which is similar to the DreamCard Player in
that it will "play" your MetaCard or Revolution stacks, but it is much
simpler and doesn't present any user-interface elements so it runs
"cleaner".


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Re: [ANN] StackRunner 1.0 - 1.0.1 Available

2005-09-06 Thread Ken Ray
On 9/6/05 4:14 PM, "Stephen Barncard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Ken,
> I love this thing - especially in OSX, as one should be able to put
> the config file and the stack inside the MacOS folder in the package,
> where the executable for stackrunner and the included externals live.
> However, I can't seem to find the magic incantation to have
> Stackrunner locate a file inside the package..

Stephen, you found a bug, which I just fixed and reposted (apps should now
read 1.0.1 in the Get Info/Properties windows). BTW: I just do a check for
verfication on the stack and then open it, so you can also use relative
paths from the executable folder as well. So you can also say:

  open=StackRunner.app/Contents/MacOS/CDRToLabel.rev

and it will work properly.

Enjoy!

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: [ANN] StackRunner 1.0

2005-09-06 Thread Stephen Barncard

Ken,
I love this thing - especially in OSX, as one should be able to put 
the config file and the stack inside the MacOS folder in the package, 
where the executable for stackrunner and the included externals live. 
However, I can't seem to find the magic incantation to have 
Stackrunner locate a file inside the package..


I've used 'ask file' to get the path but it doesn't like it..I always 
get the answer dialog.


what's missing, quotes?

my stack is inside same folder (MacOS) where the Stackrunner executable lives.

this doesn't work:

open=CDRToLabel.rev
dialogtext=Please locate 'CDRToLabel.rev':

this doesn't work either:
open=/Volumes/SQB_128-1/ 
STACKRUNNER/StackRunner.app/Contents/MacOS/CDRToLabel.rev

dialogtext=Please locate 'CDRToLabel.rev':

nor this:
open=/STACKRUNNER/StackRunner.app/Contents/MacOS/CDRToLabel.rev
dialogtext=Please locate 'CDRToLabel.rev':



Just a quick note to let you all know that I have uploaded a standalone
application called "StackRunner" which is similar to the DreamCard Player in
that it will "play" your MetaCard or Revolution stacks, but it is much
simpler and doesn't present any user-interface elements so it runs
"cleaner".


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Re: [ANN] StackRunner 1.0

2005-09-06 Thread Charles Hartman


On Sep 6, 2005, at 2:52 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:


Very nice. One thing you might consider is if a user plays a stack



-- but if & *only* if!


fron the "answer file" dialog (i.e. not using main.rev or a config
file), after the stack closes, put up the answer file dialog again, so
the user can choose a different stack to run. Right now, if you open a
stack this way and then close it, StackRunner stays open but you can't
do anything in it. if you want to open another stack, you have to quit
SR and then restart it.

Otherwise, very clean and elegant! :-)


I agree-- it's a great boon for those of us using Dreamcard &  
publicizing stacks (not standalones).


Charles Hartman

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Re: [ANN] StackRunner 1.0

2005-09-06 Thread Howard Bornstein
On 9/6/05, Ken Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just a quick note to let you all know that I have uploaded a standalone
> application called "StackRunner" which is similar to the DreamCard Player in
> that it will "play" your MetaCard or Revolution stacks, but it is much
> simpler and doesn't present any user-interface elements so it runs
> "cleaner".
>

Very nice. One thing you might consider is if a user plays a stack
fron the "answer file" dialog (i.e. not using main.rev or a config
file), after the stack closes, put up the answer file dialog again, so
the user can choose a different stack to run. Right now, if you open a
stack this way and then close it, StackRunner stays open but you can't
do anything in it. if you want to open another stack, you have to quit
SR and then restart it.

Otherwise, very clean and elegant! :-)

-- 
Regards,

Howard Bornstein
---
www.designeq.com
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[ANN] StackRunner 1.0

2005-09-06 Thread Ken Ray
Just a quick note to let you all know that I have uploaded a standalone
application called "StackRunner" which is similar to the DreamCard Player in
that it will "play" your MetaCard or Revolution stacks, but it is much
simpler and doesn't present any user-interface elements so it runs
"cleaner".

When it is launched, it will check to see if there is a stack called
"main.rev" in the same directory; if there is, it will open it
automatically. Otherwise it will check for a file called "config.srn" in the
same directory as the standalone and check inside there for information on
what stack to run. Finally, if neither of these can be found, a simple
'answer file' dialog box will be displayed with a generic prompt.

StackRunner includes all Rev icons, cursors and libraries, so it should be
able to run just about anything. OS 9, OS X and Windows versions are
available.

You can check it out (along with a full description) at:

http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm

Enjoy!


Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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