Re: [OT] Adobe and Apple
One item missing from the list is Macromedia Mediamaker, although that may have already been dropped before the merger. Mediamaker was originally written in HyperCard. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Adobe and Apple
www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1404.html or, put another way; why RunRev should never, never let themselves be bought out by one of the major players. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Adobe and Apple
Very cute poor little Hypercard under arm of OS9 ! :-( Le 17 juin 2010 à 17:52, Richmond a écrit : www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1404.html or, put another way; why RunRev should never, never let themselves be bought out by one of the major players. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Adobe and Apple
snif! I loved those guys! Bob On Jun 17, 2010, at 8:58 AM, René Micout wrote: Very cute poor little Hypercard under arm of OS9 ! :-( Le 17 juin 2010 à 17:52, Richmond a écrit : www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1404.html or, put another way; why RunRev should never, never let themselves be bought out by one of the major players. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Adobe and Apple
Adobe have their own impressive private vault of discontinued, changed names, changed ownership, or obsolete software: http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/whathappenedto/p/formeradobe.htm Adobe File Utilities AfterImage Ares Font Utilities Art Explorer ChartMaker CheckList Color Central Curo Document Manager DateBook Digital Darkroom Fetch FontChameleon FontFiddler FontHopper FontMinder FontMonger Gallery Effects Hitchcock HomePublisher Image Library ImageStyler InfoPublisher IntelliDraw LiveMotion OPEN PageMaker PageMaker Database Edition Personal Press Persuasion PhotoStyler PrePrint Pro PrePrint PressWise Print Central ScreenReady SiteMill SuperATM SuperCard SuperPaint TextureMaker TitleMan TitleSoft TouchBase TranScript TrapMaker TrapWise Type Align Type Twister Video F/X Viewer 3.1 Viewer 95 Word For Word I could add: Adobe GoLive Adobe FreeHand MX Macromedia Authorware How many millions of people do you estimate have been affected by Adobe's choices of discontinuing these products? Food for thought... Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-Adobe-and-Apple-tp2259057p2259557.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Adobe and Apple
Alejandro- Thursday, June 17, 2010, 3:54:50 PM, you wrote: SuperCard ??? -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Adobe and Apple
That is the version from About.com but... in Richard Gaskin's website, SuperCard history: Feb. 1994: Allegiant acquires SuperCard from Aldus http://www.fourthworld.com/supercard/FAQ_pages/Q0010.html Let's see how dates match: In February 1994, Allegiant Technologies of San Diego bought SuperCard In March 15 1994 (Tuesday) Adobe Corp. announces that will swap 1.15 of its shares for each share of Aldus Corp. of Seattle, a $525 million deal that unites two of the leading makers of programs for desktop publishing. http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-5510450_ITM So About.com should be wrong in their date... but maybe, just maybe, Adobe expressed their intention to abandon SuperCard and FreeHand, so Aldus sold both: SuperCard before merging and FreeHand after merging with Adobe. I remember reading in some mail list, (maybe HyperCard list) about the project of integrating SuperTalk as scripting language of Aldus FreeHand. After Freehand and SuperCard were sold to different companies, this innovation never saw the daylight. Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-Adobe-and-Apple-tp2259057p2259601.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: [OT] Adobe and Apple
I remember reading in some mail list, (maybe HyperCard list) about the project of integrating SuperTalk as scripting language of Aldus FreeHand. After Freehand and SuperCard were sold to different companies, this innovation never saw the daylight. Adobe isn't alone in acquiring something, then selling it off, killing it or letting a product languish. Not much worse than others. I remember Guy Kawasaki convinced Adobe to acquire his Touchbase and Datebook programs - Adobe didn't have a clue what to do with them. Then they sold it to Now when I was there, and Now sort of sat on it, gave modest upgrades, but mostly just got it to acquire the customer base for NUD C. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Adobe and Apple
Alejandro- Yeah - my memory (which could well be fuzzy) is that Allegiant bought SuperCard before the Adobe buyout so Adobe never got a chance to bury it. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Adobe and Apple
Lynn- Thursday, June 17, 2010, 5:17:12 PM, you wrote: Adobe isn't alone in acquiring something, then selling it off, killing it or letting a product languish. Not much worse than others. Better than a lot of others. Look at Corel. Or Computer Associates. Where software goes to die -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Adobe and Apple
The merger of 525 millions between Adobe and Aldus must have been in discussion for months, before their announcement of March 15 1994. So, when Aldus sold SuperCard, they probably have consulted with Adobe about this transaction. If consulting with Adobe were not necessary then... Why not sold FreeHand, that already have a great user base among the graphic designer crowd? Because Adobe want to do in 1994, what it's doing now in 2010: Abandoning FreeHand into oblivion. Sad, no? (In case that you are wondering, i am a Xara user since a few years ago, although i taught FreeHand in Design Classes for many years) Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-Adobe-and-Apple-tp2259057p2259621.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: [OT] Adobe and Apple
Adobe isn't alone in acquiring something, then selling it off, killing it or letting a product languish. Not much worse than others. Better than a lot of others. Look at Corel. Or Computer Associates. Where software goes to die Oh, yeah, esp CA. They were the bottom feeders of the software world. I recall years ago they would acquire some technical product with old technology and a reasonably large user base - for very little money. Then charge for *every* update, the .01 updates. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
