Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup
On 8 November 2010 20:00, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: I have been known to break the law in my time; but I draw the line at breaking the law singing a Communist song; or, put it another way; it's an awful pity they didn't shoot Che before the creation of the iconic head. Yes, I think this was one of the reasons for the LiveCode rebranding. Sorry. List Mum; but I did not start it (this time). Oh yes you did :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup
On 9 Nov 2010, at 08:21, David Bovill wrote: Yes, I think this was one of the reasons for the LiveCode rebranding. They may have dropped the name, but this Revolutionary tune was heard blasting out of one office window in Edinburgh recently: The compiler flag is deepest red To those that say Hypercard is dead But your static class can kiss my *ss We're in the iTunes store at last Cheers Dave___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: [OT] legality of DVD backup
Nice one... From: dave.cr...@lacscentre.co.uk Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 11:35:11 + To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup They may have dropped the name, but this Revolutionary tune was heard blasting out of one office window in Edinburgh recently: The compiler flag is deepest red To those that say Hypercard is dead But your static class can kiss my *ss We're in the iTunes store at last ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup
On 11/09/2010 01:35 PM, Dave Cragg wrote: On 9 Nov 2010, at 08:21, David Bovill wrote: Yes, I think this was one of the reasons for the LiveCode rebranding. They may have dropped the name, but this Revolutionary tune was heard blasting out of one office window in Edinburgh recently: The compiler flag is deepest red To those that say Hypercard is dead But your static class can kiss my *ss We're in the iTunes store at last Oh, very well done indeed . . . :) Cheers Dave___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup
On 11/9/10 5:35 AM, Dave Cragg wrote: They may have dropped the name, but this Revolutionary tune was heard blasting out of one office window in Edinburgh recently: The compiler flag is deepest red To those that say Hypercard is dead But your static class can kiss my *ss We're in the iTunes store at last And they were dancing a jig to it, which was quite a feat given that the metre doesn't match. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup
Sounds like one of those songs the Orcs sang in the halls of Moria. Bob On Nov 9, 2010, at 3:35 AM, Dave Cragg wrote: On 9 Nov 2010, at 08:21, David Bovill wrote: Yes, I think this was one of the reasons for the LiveCode rebranding. They may have dropped the name, but this Revolutionary tune was heard blasting out of one office window in Edinburgh recently: The compiler flag is deepest red To those that say Hypercard is dead But your static class can kiss my *ss We're in the iTunes store at last Cheers Dave___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup
On 11/09/2010 07:07 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 11/9/10 5:35 AM, Dave Cragg wrote: They may have dropped the name, but this Revolutionary tune was heard blasting out of one office window in Edinburgh recently: The compiler flag is deepest red To those that say Hypercard is dead But your static class can kiss my *ss We're in the iTunes store at last And they were dancing a jig to it, which was quite a feat given that the metre doesn't match. :) That is because, although the Europeans imposed metres on us, we prefer yards . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup
Now I remember why I like the Scottish! Because they still flatly refuse to accept Metrics! Bob On Nov 9, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Richmond wrote: On 11/09/2010 07:07 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 11/9/10 5:35 AM, Dave Cragg wrote: They may have dropped the name, but this Revolutionary tune was heard blasting out of one office window in Edinburgh recently: The compiler flag is deepest red To those that say Hypercard is dead But your static class can kiss my *ss We're in the iTunes store at last And they were dancing a jig to it, which was quite a feat given that the metre doesn't match. :) That is because, although the Europeans imposed metres on us, we prefer yards . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup
On 11/09/2010 08:23 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Now I remember why I like the Scottish! Because they still flatly refuse to accept Metrics! Bob Well, really we are not totally keen on English stuff such as Yards, preferring Ells. The rot set in when the Scot parliament, packed with bribed folk voted to support William of Orange, deposed our rightful monarch (James VII), and supported Anschluss with England; something that is illegal under Scots law. We lost our: money: merks and pounds Scots; for the mathematically minded 3 Merks = 2 pounds Scots. fluid measurement: Scots pint ( = 4 English pints) lengths: Scots mile, ells and so forth monarch: currently King Francis II ( http://www.facebook.com/posted.php?id=16233840101#!/photo.php?fbid=383891736095set=o.16233840101 - So, far from being a Runtime 'Revolutionary', I am best described as a Runtime 'Counter Revolutionary' as I want ALL these things back; especially the King! I, ALSO, want LiveCode to resume being called Runtime Revolution; dead South American Commies or not. On Nov 9, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Richmond wrote: On 11/09/2010 07:07 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 11/9/10 5:35 AM, Dave Cragg wrote: They may have dropped the name, but this Revolutionary tune was heard blasting out of one office window in Edinburgh recently: The compiler flag is deepest red To those that say Hypercard is dead But your static class can kiss my *ss We're in the iTunes store at last And they were dancing a jig to it, which was quite a feat given that the metre doesn't match. :) That is because, although the Europeans imposed metres on us, we prefer yards . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup
Frankly, I think any revolution whose founding principle and main goal is to run time is both absurd and egomaniacal. So you conquer the whole world! So what?? You are no closer to running time than you were before you started! The cheek! And another thing, if someone is going to start a revolution, for heaven's sake get your grammar correct. It should be control time or alter time. Run time makes them sound like a bunch of 6th grade ninnyhammers. I mean really... wha.. what's that? OH! Runtime! NEVER MIND! Bob On Nov 9, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Richmond wrote: So, far from being a Runtime 'Revolutionary', I am best described as a Runtime 'Counter Revolutionary' as I want ALL these things back; especially the King! I, ALSO, want LiveCode to resume being called Runtime Revolution; dead South American Commies or not. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup
Runtime is what happens when the Revolution is going badly. As in Uh oh, its runtime! Define: runtime; To advance to the rear. On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Frankly, I think any revolution whose founding principle and main goal is to run time is both absurd and egomaniacal. So you conquer the whole world! So what?? You are no closer to running time than you were before you started! The cheek! And another thing, if someone is going to start a revolution, for heaven's sake get your grammar correct. It should be control time or alter time. Run time makes them sound like a bunch of 6th grade ninnyhammers. I mean really... wha.. what's that? OH! Runtime! NEVER MIND! Bob On Nov 9, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Richmond wrote: So, far from being a Runtime 'Revolutionary', I am best described as a Runtime 'Counter Revolutionary' as I want ALL these things back; especially the King! I, ALSO, want LiveCode to resume being called Runtime Revolution; dead South American Commies or not. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On Nov 9, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Richmond wrote: fluid measurement: Scots pint ( = 4 English pints) No wonder the Scots have a high tolerance for alcohol. I'll have another pint, please. -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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And their cows shudder when someone goes to get a pint of milk. Bob On Nov 9, 2010, at 11:40 AM, Peter Brigham MD wrote: On Nov 9, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Richmond wrote: fluid measurement: Scots pint ( = 4 English pints) No wonder the Scots have a high tolerance for alcohol. I'll have another pint, please. -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] legality of DVD backup
My EFL school is slowly migrating from a mixed Mac and Ubuntu school to being a 100% Ubuntu school. However, for some reason which escapes me DVD playback on my Ubuntu boxes is, at best, lumpy. Therefore I am proposing to make ISO images of all the DVDs that I own and use on a regular basis onto the hard disk of my main content delivery machine; I will always have the physical DVDs present in the classroom. This will allow my Ubuntu box to play my DVDs normally. Can anyone advise me as to the legality of this action? Morally I have no qualms whatever; without this process I would have to, either, purchase a TV and a DVD player, or, a Mac. sincerely, Richmond. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup
What you described is 'fair use' in the US. It means 'backup copy for personal use'. On 8 November 2010 10:35, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: My EFL school is slowly migrating from a mixed Mac and Ubuntu school to being a 100% Ubuntu school. However, for some reason which escapes me DVD playback on my Ubuntu boxes is, at best, lumpy. Therefore I am proposing to make ISO images of all the DVDs that I own and use on a regular basis onto the hard disk of my main content delivery machine; I will always have the physical DVDs present in the classroom. This will allow my Ubuntu box to play my DVDs normally. Can anyone advise me as to the legality of this action? Morally I have no qualms whatever; without this process I would have to, either, purchase a TV and a DVD player, or, a Mac. sincerely, Richmond. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup
Richmond, One legal factor you want to keep in mind is the number of concurrent playbacks per dvd. The backup argument is only good as long as you have a DVD for each concurrent viewing of the movie. E.g. 3 concurrent viewings = 3 DVDs. And all of this is in the realm of non-tested law. I would get your school's attorney's approval (they should be willing to defend you if you are asked to cease and desist). Marc Siskin On Nov 8, 2010, at 1:35 PM, Richmond wrote: My EFL school is slowly migrating from a mixed Mac and Ubuntu school to being a 100% Ubuntu school. However, for some reason which escapes me DVD playback on my Ubuntu boxes is, at best, lumpy. Therefore I am proposing to make ISO images of all the DVDs that I own and use on a regular basis onto the hard disk of my main content delivery machine; I will always have the physical DVDs present in the classroom. This will allow my Ubuntu box to play my DVDs normally. Can anyone advise me as to the legality of this action? Morally I have no qualms whatever; without this process I would have to, either, purchase a TV and a DVD player, or, a Mac. sincerely, Richmond. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution --- Marc Siskin Manager, Modern Language Resource Center Carnegie Mellon University msis...@andrew.cmu.edu ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup
In most countries this is what you would call legally defensible under faire use or the equivalent in your jurisdiction. There is no case I know of where someone has been prosecuted for copyright infringement by making a backup copy for personal use, given that they own a legal copy in another medium. However there is nothing to stop a copyright holder taking you to court, in which case it would be down to you to make a faire use or equivalent defence - and you could then have the privilege of being (as far as I know), the first person to loose such a case :) In the real world, you are extremely unlikely to be taken to court over this issue, as the industry has plenty to do taking clear cut cases of downloading pirated DVD's to court, and the last thing they want is to loose a faire use case and so set a precedent. A related issue is the obtaining and use of the software to actually do the decryption (which is why it can be hard to get a copy from a mainstream site - as Macrovision does its best to take action against distributers). A good account here is taken from the wikipedia articlehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD_Decrypter : Under United States' Federal law, making a backup copy of a DVD-Videohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Videoor an audio CD http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Book_%28audio_CD_standard%29 by a consumer is legal under fair use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_useprotection. However, this provision of United States law conflicts with the Digital Millennium Copyright Acthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Actprohibition of so-called circumvention measures of copy protections http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copy_protection. In the noted 321 case, Federal District Judge Susan Illston of the Northern District of Californiahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_District_Court_for_the_Northern_District_of_California ,[5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD_Decrypter#cite_note-4 ruled that the backup copies made with software such as DVD Decrypter are in fact legal but that distribution of the software used to make them is illegal. As of the date of this revision, neither the US Supreme Courthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Supreme_Courtnor the US Congress http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Congress has taken definitive action on the matter. As ever - non of the above is legal advice, and I am not a lawyer. On 8 November 2010 18:40, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.comwrote: What you described is 'fair use' in the US. It means 'backup copy for personal use'. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup
On 11/08/2010 08:58 PM, Marc Siskin wrote: Richmond, One legal factor you want to keep in mind is the number of concurrent playbacks per dvd. The backup argument is only good as long as you have a DVD for each concurrent viewing of the movie. E.g. 3 concurrent viewings = 3 DVDs. And all of this is in the realm of non-tested law. I would get your school's attorney's approval (they should be willing to defend you if you are asked to cease and desist). My school's attorney; ha, ha, ha; as 95% of lawyers in Bulgaria use pirated copies of Windows and Microsoft Office on their PCs the last thing I am likely to do is consult any of them . . . :) As I, and I alone, will be showing these DVDs, and I and I alone own physical copies of the DVDs I would, in any other, less bent country, not pay a lawyer to get his/her sweaty, vampirical paws into my money. As my 'school' is in fact, registered as a language centre; i.e. because it does NOT have separate toilets for boys and girls it cannot be regsitered as a school; which, paradoxically, means that I operate under far less restrictions than a language school qua language school, my showing DVDs is legally viewed as the same sort of thing as running a DVD for one of my kids and his/her chums in my sitting-room. I am not really worried about large-scale legal ramifications; just about the legality of having a copy on a hard disk (read Ubuntu + k9copy). Marc Siskin On Nov 8, 2010, at 1:35 PM, Richmond wrote: My EFL school is slowly migrating from a mixed Mac and Ubuntu school to being a 100% Ubuntu school. However, for some reason which escapes me DVD playback on my Ubuntu boxes is, at best, lumpy. Therefore I am proposing to make ISO images of all the DVDs that I own and use on a regular basis onto the hard disk of my main content delivery machine; I will always have the physical DVDs present in the classroom. This will allow my Ubuntu box to play my DVDs normally. Can anyone advise me as to the legality of this action? Morally I have no qualms whatever; without this process I would have to, either, purchase a TV and a DVD player, or, a Mac. sincerely, Richmond. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution --- Marc Siskin Manager, Modern Language Resource Center Carnegie Mellon University msis...@andrew.cmu.edu ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup
On 11/08/2010 08:58 PM, David Bovill wrote: In most countries this is what you would call legally defensible under faire use or the equivalent in your jurisdiction. There is no case I know of where someone has been prosecuted for copyright infringement by making a backup copy for personal use, given that they own a legal copy in another medium. However there is nothing to stop a copyright holder taking you to court, in which case it would be down to you to make a faire use or equivalent defence - and you could then have the privilege of being (as far as I know), the first person to loose such a case :) In the real world, you are extremely unlikely to be taken to court over this issue, as the industry has plenty to do taking clear cut cases of downloading pirated DVD's to court, and the last thing they want is to loose a faire use case and so set a precedent. A related issue is the obtaining and use of the software to actually do the decryption (which is why it can be hard to get a copy from a mainstream site - as Macrovision does its best to take action against distributers). A good account here is taken from the wikipedia articlehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD_Decrypter : Under United States' Federal law, making a backup copy of a DVD-Videohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Videoor an audio Oddly enough, I JUST opened a Terminal emulator in Ubuntu 10.10 and typed: sudo apt-get install k9copy not all that hidden . . . :) CDhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Book_%28audio_CD_standard%29 by a consumer is legal under fair usehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_useprotection. However, this provision of United States law conflicts with the Digital Millennium Copyright Acthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Actprohibition of so-called circumvention measures of copy protectionshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copy_protection. In the noted 321 case, Federal District Judge Susan Illston of the Northern District of Californiahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_District_Court_for_the_Northern_District_of_California ,[5]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD_Decrypter#cite_note-4 ruled that the backup copies made with software such as DVD Decrypter are in fact legal but that distribution of the software used to make them is illegal. As of the date of this revision, neither the US Supreme Courthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Supreme_Courtnor the US Congresshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Congress has taken definitive action on the matter. As ever - non of the above is legal advice, and I am not a lawyer. Well; have a book in my shelves called The MicroBiblion published in London in 1625 when copyright had not even been heard of; now, from time to time, I have found it apposite to copy fairly large chunks of this book elsewhere (admittedly not for profit); as I own a copy of the MicroBiblion I cannot see any real problems there: the author got his money, as did the printer and the publisher. Why there should be any difference between that and my copying parts of a DVD elsewhere for my convenience (and NOT for profit) I just DO NOT KNOW. On 8 November 2010 18:40, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.comwrote: What you described is 'fair use' in the US. It means 'backup copy for personal use'. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Here is a good link for Faire Use - http://centerforsocialmedia.org/fair-use Oh - and another probably more important point which has nothing to do with the copying - is the issue of public broadcast, so while you can watch a DVD with friends at home, in a school is another matter - which is why a lot of schools will have licences explicitly taken out for this. For some reason I've never quite understood copyright lawyers seem to have it in for screenings in prisons for instance. Again the faire use issue comes in - if it is entertainment then there is no faire use defence, but if it is used for critical comment and analysis in an education setting, then there is more of a case Here is an example of the sort of generally accepted exemption within schools and colleges in the USA: - taken from this sitehttp://www.albion.edu/campusprograms/event-scheduling-and-program-policies/movie-viewing : *Face-to-face Exemption* Many of you may know that there is an exception to the public performance fees for college and universities. That exception is only in the case of face-to-face classroom instruction by a faculty member. The faculty member may show the film/movie outside the normal class period (at night for example), however, it is only for those students who are registered for the class. The movie must also be shown in spaces that are designated for instruction; therefore library screening rooms, residence hall or student union lounges, cafeterias do not qualify. A faculty member cannot show it for his/her class and then open it up to the rest of the campus. In order to invite others, the public viewing rights must be purchased. Acceptable attendance for films in which the copyright is not purchased only include students registered for the class, the instructor and guest lecturer(s). And for EU - this page http://wapedia.mobi/en/DVD_consumer_rights is useful. On 8 November 2010 18:58, Marc Siskin msis...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote: Richmond, One legal factor you want to keep in mind is the number of concurrent playbacks per dvd. The backup argument is only good as long as you have a DVD for each concurrent viewing of the movie. E.g. 3 concurrent viewings = 3 DVDs. And all of this is in the realm of non-tested law. I would get your school's attorney's approval (they should be willing to defend you if you are asked to cease and desist). On a related note - if you want to really break the law - all you need to do is sing happy Birthday to you in school or any public space - http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/birthday.asp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Even funnier is that it is not legal to sing The Internationale in the streets of France - so to utter the words: Arise, ye workers from your slumber, Arise, ye prisoners of want. For reason in revolt now thunders, and at last ends the age of cant! Away with all your superstitions, Servile masses, arise, arise! We'll change henceforth the old tradition, And spurn the dust to win the prize! So comrades, come rally, And the last fight let us face. The Internationale, Unites the human race. So comrades, come rally, And the last fight let us face. The Internationale, Unites the human race. in public, without some good critical debate afterwards could land you with a 300,000 euro fine. As far as I know this has nothing to do with the quality of your singing. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On 11/08/2010 09:41 PM, David Bovill wrote: Even funnier is that it is not legal to sing The Internationale in the streets of France - so to utter the words: Arise, ye workers from your slumber, Arise, ye prisoners of want. For reason in revolt now thunders, and at last ends the age of cant! Away with all your superstitions, Servile masses, arise, arise! We'll change henceforth the old tradition, And spurn the dust to win the prize! So comrades, come rally, And the last fight let us face. The Internationale, Unites the human race. So comrades, come rally, And the last fight let us face. The Internationale, Unites the human race. I have been known to break the law in my time; but I draw the line at breaking the law singing a Communist song; or, put it another way; it's an awful pity they didn't shoot Che before the creation of the iconic head. Sorry. List Mum; but I did not start it (this time). in public, without some good critical debate afterwards could land you with a 300,000 euro fine. As far as I know this has nothing to do with the quality of your singing. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
