Re: Disabled files in 2.7 - Followup
Mark, Meanwhile... Paul Looney -Original Message- From: Mark Waddingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 18:23:15 + Subject: Re: Disabled files in 2.7 - Followup Hi Richard, The stackFileType is very helpful for our applications, but often unhelpful for working with the IDE. We may want to have files that the Finder associated with our app when double-clicked, but which we're still working on in Rev. BZ#1761 was introduced in July 2004 to assist with this, asking for at least an option by which the IDE could not change the file type/ creator code assignements we make for our stack files: http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=1761 Indeed, I was pondering something such as this today after Paul mentioned the issue. However, given that file-types and creator-codes are being phased out in OS X it would be worth seeing if we could provide some greater support and ease of integration with UTIs - which would then (as a result) provide support for the legacy MacOS file identification methods. Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com Runtime Revolution ~ User-Centric Development Tools ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Followup on disabled files in 2.7
On my computer I think they are, but I'm not 100% sure. On the other computer, Rev is not installed, so they just look like generic document files. I can check the file types on Monday when I go to work. Sarah On 2/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sarah, Are the new stacks still identified as Rev stacks in the Finder? Paul Looney -Original Message- From: Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 14:22:00 +1000 Subject: Re: Followup on disabled files in 2.7 Is anyone having (or not having) a problem opening stacks saved in 2.7 - without using the Recent Files menu? Has anyone made a new standalone in 2.7 - and been able to open stacks saved in 2.7? I have done this. I have a configuration app that reads one of the substacks of a second app. I had to re-build the config app using 2.7, but once I did this, it was able to open the stack from the second app (also built using 2.7) without any problem. This is using OS X 10.4.4 ona couple of different computers, but I didn't check the filetypes. Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Disabled files in 2.7 - Followup
Hi Paul, Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I've just looked at this and it would seem that the cause is that the 'stackFileType' global property is being inadvertently set to 'MacOS' - rather than 'RevoRSTK' or 'MCRDMSTK'. The 'stackFileType' global property (which is readable and writeable) determines the creator and file type codes that stacks are saved with. (The reason for existence of this property is so that developers producing systems in Revolution that base their file-format on Revolution stacks can tie their files to their environment, rather than the Revolution or MetaCard IDE) If you do: set the stackFileType to RevoRSTK in the message box on startup all stacks saved in that session should then have the appropriate file type and creator code set. (Of course, we will fix this underlying default issue - this is just to help make life easier for you in the mean-time). In terms of opening stacks, then do remember you can choose to display 'All Files', instead of just those identified by either a '.rev' extension, a '.mc' extension or a 'RevoRSTK', or 'MCRDMSTK' file/creator type. Also, Revolution itself does not use either the extension nor the creator or file-type to determine whether a file is a Revolution stack or not. Instead, it checks the header to see if it conforms to the file-format. This means that the engine will attempt to load any file you give it as a stack file - and it will return an appropriate error message if it finds that it is not. Warmest Regards, Mark. On 18 Feb 2006, at 02:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jacque, My pleasure: It is now bug 3336 Paul Looney -Original Message- From: J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:56:42 -0600 Subject: Re: Disabled files in 2.7 - Followup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The original 2.6.1 Type and Creator are RSTK and Revo After opening a stack in 2.7 the Type and Creator are converted to STK and MacO This has got to be a bug. The plist for Rev 2.7 still lists RSTK as the proper file type, and the creator code is still Revo. I looked at a newly saved stack and saw that the creator was MacO and the file type was STlittleboxK. It is the incorrect file type that will prevent stacks from opening, but the creator code needs to be fixed as well. Can you bugzilla this for us? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Mark Waddingham ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com Runtime Revolution ~ User-Centric Development Tools ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Followup on disabled files in 2.7
Thank you, Sarah, It appears that Rev 2.7 is changing both the file Type and the Creator code when it opens existing stacks. Big problem when I try to edit stacks that are designed to work wih a standalone. PL -Original Message- From: Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 18:47:14 +1000 Subject: Re: Followup on disabled files in 2.7 On my computer I think they are, but I'm not 100% sure. On the other computer, Rev is not installed, so they just look like generic document files. I can check the file types on Monday when I go to work. Sarah On 2/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sarah, Are the new stacks still identified as Rev stacks in the Finder? Paul Looney -Original Message- From: Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 14:22:00 +1000 Subject: Re: Followup on disabled files in 2.7 Is anyone having (or not having) a problem opening stacks saved in 2.7 - without using the Recent Files menu? Has anyone made a new standalone in 2.7 - and been able to open stacks saved in 2.7? I have done this. I have a configuration app that reads one of the substacks of a second app. I had to re-build the config app using 2.7, but once I did this, it was able to open the stack from the second app (also built using 2.7) without any problem. This is using OS X 10.4.4 ona couple of different computers, but I didn't check the filetypes. Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Disabled files in 2.7 - Followup
Mark, What if the developer wants to use his own Creator code, so that stacks open with a standalone. It appears that this code is being overwritten when that stack is edited in Rev.? Paul Looney PS Thank you for responding so promptly. -Original Message- From: Mark Waddingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 11:26:33 + Subject: Re: Disabled files in 2.7 - Followup Hi Paul, Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I've just looked at this and it would seem that the cause is that the 'stackFileType' global property is being inadvertently set to 'MacOS' - rather than 'RevoRSTK' or 'MCRDMSTK'. The 'stackFileType' global property (which is readable and writeable) determines the creator and file type codes that stacks are saved with. (The reason for existence of this property is so that developers producing systems in Revolution that base their file-format on Revolution stacks can tie their files to their environment, rather than the Revolution or MetaCard IDE) If you do: set the stackFileType to RevoRSTK in the message box on startup all stacks saved in that session should then have the appropriate file type and creator code set. (Of course, we will fix this underlying default issue - this is just to help make life easier for you in the mean-time). In terms of opening stacks, then do remember you can choose to display 'All Files', instead of just those identified by either a '.rev' extension, a '.mc' extension or a 'RevoRSTK', or 'MCRDMSTK' file/creator type. Also, Revolution itself does not use either the extension nor the creator or file-type to determine whether a file is a Revolution stack or not. Instead, it checks the header to see if it conforms to the file-format. This means that the engine will attempt to load any file you give it as a stack file - and it will return an appropriate error message if it finds that it is not. Warmest Regards, Mark. On 18 Feb 2006, at 02:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jacque, My pleasure: It is now bug 3336 Paul Looney -Original Message- From: J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:56:42 -0600 Subject: Re: Disabled files in 2.7 - Followup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The original 2.6.1 Type and Creator are RSTK and Revo After opening a stack in 2.7 the Type and Creator are converted to STK and MacO This has got to be a bug. The plist for Rev 2.7 still lists RSTK as the proper file type, and the creator code is still Revo. I looked at a newly saved stack and saw that the creator was MacO and the file type was STlittleboxK. It is the incorrect file type that will prevent stacks from opening, but the creator code needs to be fixed as well. Can you bugzilla this for us? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Mark Waddingham ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com Runtime Revolution ~ User-Centric Development Tools ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Disabled files in 2.7 - Followup
Hi Paul, As stated: The reason for existence of this property is so that developers producing systems in Revolution that base their file-format on Revolution stacks can tie their files to their environment, rather than the Revolution or MetaCard IDE The issue with 2.7 is that it has, by default, got its 'stackFileType' property set to 'MacOS' - this is a bug - it should be (as it has been in previous versions) either 'RevoRSTK' or 'MCRDMSTK'. As this is a global property, once it has been set to a different value, the IDE will use that for all stacks saved in the remainder of the session. The filetype/creator code of a particular stack is not remembered by the IDE - instead it will replace it with the setting of 'the stackFileType' at the time it is next saved. Warmest Regards, Mark. On 18 Feb 2006, at 17:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, What if the developer wants to use his own Creator code, so that stacks open with a standalone. It appears that this code is being overwritten when that stack is edited in Rev.? Paul Looney PS Thank you for responding so promptly. -Original Message- From: Mark Waddingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 11:26:33 + Subject: Re: Disabled files in 2.7 - Followup Hi Paul, Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I've just looked at this and it would seem that the cause is that the 'stackFileType' global property is being inadvertently set to 'MacOS' - rather than 'RevoRSTK' or 'MCRDMSTK'. The 'stackFileType' global property (which is readable and writeable) determines the creator and file type codes that stacks are saved with. (The reason for existence of this property is so that developers producing systems in Revolution that base their file-format on Revolution stacks can tie their files to their environment, rather than the Revolution or MetaCard IDE) If you do: set the stackFileType to RevoRSTK in the message box on startup all stacks saved in that session should then have the appropriate file type and creator code set. (Of course, we will fix this underlying default issue - this is just to help make life easier for you in the mean-time). In terms of opening stacks, then do remember you can choose to display 'All Files', instead of just those identified by either a '.rev' extension, a '.mc' extension or a 'RevoRSTK', or 'MCRDMSTK' file/creator type. Also, Revolution itself does not use either the extension nor the creator or file-type to determine whether a file is a Revolution stack or not. Instead, it checks the header to see if it conforms to the file-format. This means that the engine will attempt to load any file you give it as a stack file - and it will return an appropriate error message if it finds that it is not. Warmest Regards, Mark. On 18 Feb 2006, at 02:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jacque, My pleasure: It is now bug 3336 Paul Looney -Original Message- From: J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:56:42 -0600 Subject: Re: Disabled files in 2.7 - Followup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The original 2.6.1 Type and Creator are RSTK and Revo After opening a stack in 2.7 the Type and Creator are converted to STK and MacO This has got to be a bug. The plist for Rev 2.7 still lists RSTK as the proper file type, and the creator code is still Revo. I looked at a newly saved stack and saw that the creator was MacO and the file type was STlittleboxK. It is the incorrect file type that will prevent stacks from opening, but the creator code needs to be fixed as well. Can you bugzilla this for us? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Mark Waddingham ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com Runtime Revolution ~ User-Centric Development Tools ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please
Re: Disabled files in 2.7 - Followup
Mark Waddingham wrote: Also, Revolution itself does not use either the extension nor the creator or file-type to determine whether a file is a Revolution stack or not. Instead, it checks the header to see if it conforms to the file-format. This means that the engine will attempt to load any file you give it as a stack file - and it will return an appropriate error message if it finds that it is not. Provided of course that it uses appropropriate file filtering criteria for the GetFile dialog to make it possible to select the file. From Paul's description it would appear that the IDE isn't using the new answer file with type option introduced in v2.6 -- is that correct? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Disabled files in 2.7 - Followup
oops, I guess I was wrong. Didn't read Mark's full text. My apologies for misinformation. sqb Hi Paul, As stated: The reason for existence of this property is so that developers producing systems in Revolution that base their file-format on Revolution stacks can tie their files to their environment, rather than the Revolution or MetaCard IDE The issue with 2.7 is that it has, by default, got its 'stackFileType' property set to 'MacOS' - this is a bug - it should be (as it has been in previous versions) either 'RevoRSTK' or 'MCRDMSTK'. As this is a global property, once it has been set to a different value, the IDE will use that for all stacks saved in the remainder of the session. The filetype/creator code of a particular stack is not remembered by the IDE - instead it will replace it with the setting of 'the stackFileType' at the time it is next saved. Warmest Regards, Mark. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Disabled files in 2.7 - Followup
Mark Waddingham wrote: The filetype/creator code of a particular stack is not remembered by the IDE - instead it will replace it with the setting of 'the stackFileType' at the time it is next saved. The stackFileType is very helpful for our applications, but often unhelpful for working with the IDE. We may want to have files that the Finder associated with our app when double-clicked, but which we're still working on in Rev. BZ#1761 was introduced in July 2004 to assist with this, asking for at least an option by which the IDE could not change the file type/creator code assignements we make for our stack files: http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=1761 -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Disabled files in 2.7 - Followup
Also, Revolution itself does not use either the extension nor the creator or file-type to determine whether a file is a Revolution stack or not. Instead, it checks the header to see if it conforms to the file-format. This means that the engine will attempt to load any file you give it as a stack file - and it will return an appropriate error message if it finds that it is not. Here I should have been more clear - the *engine* itself does not use extensions nor filetypes. Provided of course that it uses appropropriate file filtering criteria for the GetFile dialog to make it possible to select the file. From Paul's description it would appear that the IDE isn't using the new answer file with type option introduced in v2.6 -- is that correct? The IDE was updated to use the new syntax in 2.6 as soon as it was introduced - which was actually clear from my email where it explicitly stated the conditions under which the open dialog filters Revolution stacks: In terms of opening stacks, then do remember you can choose to display 'All Files', instead of just those identified by either a '.rev' extension, a '.mc' extension or a 'RevoRSTK', or 'MCRDMSTK' file/creator type. Paul, I am guessing, does not use extensions to identify his files, but instead relies on file types and creator codes and so has noticed this issue in 2.7. Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Mark Waddingham ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com Runtime Revolution ~ User-Centric Development Tools ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Disabled files in 2.7 - Followup
Hi Richard, The stackFileType is very helpful for our applications, but often unhelpful for working with the IDE. We may want to have files that the Finder associated with our app when double-clicked, but which we're still working on in Rev. BZ#1761 was introduced in July 2004 to assist with this, asking for at least an option by which the IDE could not change the file type/ creator code assignements we make for our stack files: http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=1761 Indeed, I was pondering something such as this today after Paul mentioned the issue. However, given that file-types and creator-codes are being phased out in OS X it would be worth seeing if we could provide some greater support and ease of integration with UTIs - which would then (as a result) provide support for the legacy MacOS file identification methods. Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com Runtime Revolution ~ User-Centric Development Tools ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Disabled files in 2.7
Mark, As much as misery loves company, I'm sorry you share this problem. Did you have it in prior versions as well? I my case it started when the stack was open as Rev hung (while trying to open the Table panel in the Inspector. Paul Looney -Original Message- From: Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 23:27:42 -0800 Subject: Re: Disabled files in 2.7 simplsol- Thursday, February 16, 2006, 6:32:50 PM, you wrote: Stack no longer exists in this location ...I absolutely hate this error message. I have one stack I'm working on that brings this up every *other* time I launch the stack. I have to open it from the Open Stack menu instead of Open Recent File. And I have no idea why. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Disabled files in 2.7
Paul- Friday, February 17, 2006, 4:42:02 AM, you wrote: As much as misery loves company, I'm sorry you share this problem. Did you have it in prior versions as well? I my case it started when the stack was open as Rev hung (while trying to open the Table panel in the Inspector. Yes, for me at least it's not a 2.7 thing. And my stack does open properly, just not reliably in the Recent Files menuItem. I went through and cleaned out the history preference and it still comes back to haunt me. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Disabled files in 2.7 - Followup
Yesterday I noted that opening some 2.6.1 stacks in 2.7 made it impossible for 2.7 to recognize them again after they were closed. They appeared grayed out from the Open menu. The only way that 2.7 would open them was through the Recent Files menu. This is a problem with a standalone - that doesn't have a recent files menu. Richard wisely suggested remaking a new standalone in 2.7 because that should correspond with the new file format. I have done so. (By the way the standalone builder has improved significantly over the years - seems to still have a bug applying the selected icon to the new app - and wants to cut off 22 pixels on OS X - but is certainly usable.) The new standalone had the same problem. The new app will not open any stack previously opened by 2.7 I dusted off ResEdit and discovered the following: The original 2.6.1 Type and Creator are RSTK and Revo After opening a stack in 2.7 the Type and Creator are converted to STK and MacO Is anyone having (or not having) a problem opening stacks saved in 2.7 - without using the Recent Files menu? Has anyone made a new standalone in 2.7 - and been able to open stacks saved in 2.7? (OS X 10.4.4, Al PB 1.67, 1 gig., Rev 2.7) Paul Looney ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Disabled files in 2.7 - Followup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The original 2.6.1 Type and Creator are RSTK and Revo After opening a stack in 2.7 the Type and Creator are converted to STK and MacO This has got to be a bug. The plist for Rev 2.7 still lists RSTK as the proper file type, and the creator code is still Revo. I looked at a newly saved stack and saw that the creator was MacO and the file type was STlittleboxK. It is the incorrect file type that will prevent stacks from opening, but the creator code needs to be fixed as well. Can you bugzilla this for us? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Followup on disabled files in 2.7
Yesterday I noted that opening some 2.6.1 stacks in 2.7 made it impossible for 2.7 to recognize them again after they were closed. They appeared grayed out from the Open menu. The only way that 2.7 would open them was through the Recent Files menu. This is a problem with a standalone - that doesn't have a recent files menu. Richard wisely suggested remaking a new standalone in 2.7 because that should correspond with the new file format. I have done so. (By the way the standalone builder has improved significantly over the years - seems to still have a bug applying the selected icon to the new app - and wants to cut off 22 pixels on OS X - but is certainly usable.) The new standalone had the same problem. The new app will not open any stack previously opened by 2.7 I dusted off ResEdit and discovered the following: The original 2.6.1 Type and Creator are RSTK and Revo After opening a stack in 2.7 the Type and Creator are converted to STK and MacO Is anyone having (or not having) a problem opening stacks saved in 2.7 - without using the Recent Files menu? Has anyone made a new standalone in 2.7 - and been able to open stacks saved in 2.7? (OS X 10.4.4, Al PB 1.67, 1 gig., Rev 2.7) Paul Looney ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Disabled files in 2.7 - Followup
Jacque, My pleasure: It is now bug 3336 Paul Looney -Original Message- From: J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:56:42 -0600 Subject: Re: Disabled files in 2.7 - Followup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The original 2.6.1 Type and Creator are RSTK and Revo After opening a stack in 2.7 the Type and Creator are converted to STK and MacO This has got to be a bug. The plist for Rev 2.7 still lists RSTK as the proper file type, and the creator code is still Revo. I looked at a newly saved stack and saw that the creator was MacO and the file type was STlittleboxK. It is the incorrect file type that will prevent stacks from opening, but the creator code needs to be fixed as well. Can you bugzilla this for us? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Followup on disabled files in 2.7
Is anyone having (or not having) a problem opening stacks saved in 2.7 - without using the Recent Files menu? Has anyone made a new standalone in 2.7 - and been able to open stacks saved in 2.7? I have done this. I have a configuration app that reads one of the substacks of a second app. I had to re-build the config app using 2.7, but once I did this, it was able to open the stack from the second app (also built using 2.7) without any problem. This is using OS X 10.4.4 ona couple of different computers, but I didn't check the filetypes. Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Followup on disabled files in 2.7
Sarah, Are the new stacks still identified as Rev stacks in the Finder? Paul Looney -Original Message- From: Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 14:22:00 +1000 Subject: Re: Followup on disabled files in 2.7 Is anyone having (or not having) a problem opening stacks saved in 2.7 - without using the Recent Files menu? Has anyone made a new standalone in 2.7 - and been able to open stacks saved in 2.7? I have done this. I have a configuration app that reads one of the substacks of a second app. I had to re-build the config app using 2.7, but once I did this, it was able to open the stack from the second app (also built using 2.7) without any problem. This is using OS X 10.4.4 ona couple of different computers, but I didn't check the filetypes. Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Disabled files in 2.7
I started using Rev. 2.7 Studio yesterday. I quit the program and came back to it later. If I now try opening a stack with the Open Stack... menu from 2.7 all of the stacks previously opened with 2.7 are disabled (grayed out, do not open). If I try opening one of the stacks previously opened with 2.7 from the Finder they will open the standalone (which is correct behavior) but the stacks, themselves do not open. Trying to open stacks from the Open Stack... menu in the standalone is the same as from Rev 2.7: all of the ones previously opened in 2.7 are disabled. I had been able to work around this by using the Open Recent File menu in Rev. Until this evening. I opened a stack and decided to make some adjustments to it. When I clicked on the Table tab in the Inspector, Rev froze. When I restarted I was able to get the Table tab to open. But, when I clicked on the Horizontal Grid, Rev froze again. Now when I try to open the stack on which I was working (from the Open Recent File menu - the only option previously working) I get this error message: Stack no longer exists in this location According to the Finder, the stack still exists, in the same location. Any advice would be appreciated. (OS X 10.4.4, Rev 2.7, Al PB 1.67, 1 gig RAM) Paul Looney ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Disabled files in 2.7
Rebuild permissions? also was there junk left over for earlier RC's? Prefs? I started using Rev. 2.7 Studio yesterday. I quit the program and came back to it later. If I now try opening a stack with the Open Stack... menu from 2.7 all of the stacks previously opened with 2.7 are disabled (grayed out, do not open). If I try opening one of the stacks previously opened with 2.7 from the Finder they will open the standalone (which is correct behavior) but the stacks, themselves do not open. Trying to open stacks from the Open Stack... menu in the standalone is the same as from Rev 2.7: all of the ones previously opened in 2.7 are disabled. I had been able to work around this by using the Open Recent File menu in Rev. Until this evening. I opened a stack and decided to make some adjustments to it. When I clicked on the Table tab in the Inspector, Rev froze. When I restarted I was able to get the Table tab to open. But, when I clicked on the Horizontal Grid, Rev froze again. Now when I try to open the stack on which I was working (from the Open Recent File menu - the only option previously working) I get this error message: Stack no longer exists in this location According to the Finder, the stack still exists, in the same location. Any advice would be appreciated. (OS X 10.4.4, Rev 2.7, Al PB 1.67, 1 gig RAM) Paul Looney -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Disabled files in 2.7
Stephen, Rebuild Mac permissions? Or Rev permissions? Thanks. PL -Original Message- From: Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 18:46:07 -0800 Subject: Re: Disabled files in 2.7 Rebuild permissions? also was there junk left over for earlier RC's? Prefs? I started using Rev. 2.7 Studio yesterday. I quit the program and came back to it later. If I now try opening a stack with the Open Stack... menu from 2.7 all of the stacks previously opened with 2.7 are disabled (grayed out, do not open). If I try opening one of the stacks previously opened with 2.7 from the Finder they will open the standalone (which is correct behavior) but the stacks, themselves do not open. Trying to open stacks from the Open Stack... menu in the standalone is the same as from Rev 2.7: all of the ones previously opened in 2.7 are disabled. I had been able to work around this by using the Open Recent File menu in Rev. Until this evening. I opened a stack and decided to make some adjustments to it. When I clicked on the Table tab in the Inspector, Rev froze. When I restarted I was able to get the Table tab to open. But, when I clicked on the Horizontal Grid, Rev froze again. Now when I try to open the stack on which I was working (from the Open Recent File menu - the only option previously working) I get this error message: Stack no longer exists in this location According to the Finder, the stack still exists, in the same location. Any advice would be appreciated. (OS X 10.4.4, Rev 2.7, Al PB 1.67, 1 gig RAM) Paul Looney -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Disabled files in 2.7
Stephen, I was a silly question ;-) I repaired the OS X permissions and the problem persists. I do appreciate your suggestion. PL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:55:03 -0500 Subject: Re: Disabled files in 2.7 Stephen, Rebuild Mac permissions? Or Rev permissions? Thanks. PL -Original Message- From: Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 18:46:07 -0800 Subject: Re: Disabled files in 2.7 Rebuild permissions? also was there junk left over for earlier RC's? Prefs? I started using Rev. 2.7 Studio yesterday. I quit the program and came back to it later. If I now try opening a stack with the Open Stack... menu from 2.7 all of the stacks previously opened with 2.7 are disabled (grayed out, do not open). If I try opening one of the stacks previously opened with 2.7 from the Finder they will open the standalone (which is correct behavior) but the stacks, themselves do not open. Trying to open stacks from the Open Stack... menu in the standalone is the same as from Rev 2.7: all of the ones previously opened in 2.7 are disabled. I had been able to work around this by using the Open Recent File menu in Rev. Until this evening. I opened a stack and decided to make some adjustments to it. When I clicked on the Table tab in the Inspector, Rev froze. When I restarted I was able to get the Table tab to open. But, when I clicked on the Horizontal Grid, Rev froze again. Now when I try to open the stack on which I was working (from the Open Recent File menu - the only option previously working) I get this error message: Stack no longer exists in this location According to the Finder, the stack still exists, in the same location. Any advice would be appreciated. (OS X 10.4.4, Rev 2.7, Al PB 1.67, 1 gig RAM) Paul Looney -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Disabled files in 2.7
I opened a stack and decided to make some adjustments to it. When I clicked on the Table tab in the Inspector, Rev froze. When I restarted I was able to get the Table tab to open. But, when I clicked on the Horizontal Grid, Rev froze again. I have heard of this happening in earlier version of Rev. Try interrupting whatever is happening behind the scenes using Command-period. Then the table properties will work. I don't know what might be happening with the Open stack menu item. I've just tried it here and it still works fine, but here is something to try. When you get the file dialog after choosing Open stack.., select All files in the popup at the top. This should un-gray all the files in the current folder so that they can be selected at least. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Disabled files in 2.7
Howdy Paul - If the rest of the issues you noted were all in the v2.7 IDE I'm mystified, but I might have a clue on this one: If I try opening one of the stacks previously opened with 2.7 from the Finder they will open the standalone (which is correct behavior) but the stacks, themselves do not open. Trying to open stacks from the Open Stack... menu in the standalone is the same as from Rev 2.7: all of the ones previously opened in 2.7 are disabled. Was the standalone made with v2.6x or v2.7? If v2.6 was used for the standalone that would explain it, as v2.7 uses a new file format unknown to earlier versions. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Disabled files in 2.7
Sarah, Good news: using All Files I was able to open the disabled stacks. Somehow opening them in Rev 2.7 changed them from Rev files?!? Bad news: Command-period does not work when the computer is hung trying to get into the table options. I have tried that. I have tried just letting it run (for over an hour). I have checked the Activity Monitor while it is hung and the AM reports CPU usage of about 90% (so it is doing something). Thank you for both suggestions. Paul Looney -Original Message- From: Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:15:04 +1000 Subject: Re: Disabled files in 2.7 I opened a stack and decided to make some adjustments to it. When I clicked on the Table tab in the Inspector, Rev froze. When I restarted I was able to get the Table tab to open. But, when I clicked on the Horizontal Grid, Rev froze again. I have heard of this happening in earlier version of Rev. Try interrupting whatever is happening behind the scenes using Command-period. Then the table properties will work. I don't know what might be happening with the Open stack menu item. I've just tried it here and it still works fine, but here is something to try. When you get the file dialog after choosing Open stack.., select All files in the popup at the top. This should un-gray all the files in the current folder so that they can be selected at least. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Disabled files in 2.7
Hi Richard, Yes, the standalone was made in 2.6.1 and that would explain those issues (time permitting, I'll remake it in 2.7 tomorrow). But why would the IDE not recognize 2.6.1 stacks that it had opened and saved? Could it be due to the fact that they contain the Mac OS creator code that links them to the standalone? Perhaps 2.7 treats this metadata differently? Thank you. Paul -Original Message- From: Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 19:16:02 -0800 Subject: Re: Disabled files in 2.7 Howdy Paul - If the rest of the issues you noted were all in the v2.7 IDE I'm mystified, but I might have a clue on this one: If I try opening one of the stacks previously opened with 2.7 from the Finder they will open the standalone (which is correct behavior) but the stacks, themselves do not open. Trying to open stacks from the Open Stack... menu in the standalone is the same as from Rev 2.7: all of the ones previously opened in 2.7 are disabled. Was the standalone made with v2.6x or v2.7? If v2.6 was used for the standalone that would explain it, as v2.7 uses a new file format unknown to earlier versions. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Disabled files in 2.7
simplsol- Thursday, February 16, 2006, 6:32:50 PM, you wrote: Stack no longer exists in this location ...I absolutely hate this error message. I have one stack I'm working on that brings this up every *other* time I launch the stack. I have to open it from the Open Stack menu instead of Open Recent File. And I have no idea why. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
