Re: Location parameters in Size Inspector for stack
On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:16 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: The default value for maxWidth and maxHeight is the topmost limit of the allowable stack size. So if you click the up arrow, you're going to go off into the weeds; the size will be an abstraction. The fix would be to script the inspector not to accept larger values than the maximum. You could report that in the Quality Control Center if you feel like it. http://quality.runrev.com/ I think that 65535 is the largest unsigned 16 bit integer. Clicking the up arrow makes it 1 If the magical engine thinks it is getting a 16 bit integer it throws away the 1 and calls it zero. This is what I see if I ask the stack what its width is in the message box. But why me and not you? When you tab through the fields and reach the last one do you have to tab ten more times before going back to the first? Michael___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location parameters in Size Inspector for stack
Michael D Mays wrote: On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:16 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: The default value for maxWidth and maxHeight is the topmost limit of the allowable stack size. So if you click the up arrow, you're going to go off into the weeds; the size will be an abstraction. The fix would be to script the inspector not to accept larger values than the maximum. You could report that in the Quality Control Center if you feel like it. http://quality.runrev.com/ I think that 65535 is the largest unsigned 16 bit integer. Clicking the up arrow makes it 1 If the magical engine thinks it is getting a 16 bit integer it throws away the 1 and calls it zero. This is what I see if I ask the stack what its width is in the message box. Yes, I think you're right. It makes sense. But why me and not you? I get it too. When I said I couldn't reproduce the problem (or reproduct if you prefer) I didn't know exactly what you were doing. Once you gave a recipe I got the same results. When you tab through the fields and reach the last one do you have to tab ten more times before going back to the first? Only if the objects in between have their traversalOn set to true. Remember that on other operating systems, you can tab into buttons and other controls, so that's what's happening even though on a Mac you can't see the selection outline. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location parameters in Size Inspector for stack
If a field isn't recognizing the closefield message I would call that a major bug, if the closefield message isn't being trapped and/or acted upon correctly in a field I would call that minor. (yes I am nit picking like my cousins ;) Re reproduction: If I create a new stack, double click the stack to open the inspector, go to size and position; click the up arrow for the Max. Width, my stack disappears. If I check the location width; height via the message box I find all of them are what is reported in the inspector except for the width which is 0. this time. I just 'reset' the stack's sizes and clicked that arrow again and the width was set to 1. Michael On Jun 28, 2010, at 2:25 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Michael D Mays wrote: When I go to one of the location fields, type in a different number; tab: nothing happens. If I click either of the arrows for the location's input fields of the stack, the stack updates to the incremented value. I've quit and restarted Rev; created a new empty mainstack with the same results. It looks like a very minor bug where those fields aren't recognizing a closefield. If you use the Enter key after typing a value, it works. Here is something stranger: If I click the max or min width arrow the stack shrinks to about width=3, height=10 not at the location in the inspector. I can then click the size fields arrow to get the size and width to update but the stack is not at the location advertised. If I click one of the arrows associated with the location the location updates. I can't reproduct this one. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location parameters in Size Inspector for stack
Jacque- Monday, June 28, 2010, 12:57:09 PM, you wrote: groan Reproduct is a perfectly good word, it just isn't in widespread use yet. Knowing you, it soon will be... I think reproduct is a great verb. And the concept is certainly in common use: it's what makers of candy bars and cereal boxes when they keep the price and basic packaging the same but lower the volume; or what petroleum companies do when they raise the price of gasoline in the summer; or what Microsoft did in renaming OLE to ActiveX when developers revolted against the idiocy of its API. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location parameters in Size Inspector for stack
Michael D Mays wrote: If a field isn't recognizing the closefield message I would call that a major bug, if the closefield message isn't being trapped and/or acted upon correctly in a field I would call that minor. (yes I am nit picking like my cousins ;) It looks to me like it just isn't handling it. It used to, if I remember right. Re reproduction: If I create a new stack, double click the stack to open the inspector, go to size and position; click the up arrow for the Max. Width, my stack disappears. The default value for maxWidth and maxHeight is the topmost limit of the allowable stack size. So if you click the up arrow, you're going to go off into the weeds; the size will be an abstraction. The fix would be to script the inspector not to accept larger values than the maximum. You could report that in the Quality Control Center if you feel like it. http://quality.runrev.com/ If I check the location width; height via the message box I find all of them are what is reported in the inspector except for the width which is 0. this time. I just 'reset' the stack's sizes and clicked that arrow again and the width was set to 1. If you are trying to set the maxWidth higher than the default, then that's out of range too. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Location parameters in Size Inspector for stack
When I type in a new location and tab out of the field in the size position inspector for a stack nothing happens. All other objects I've done this with update their location when I tab out. Is this a feature or a bug? If it is a feature, why? Thanks, Michael___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location parameters in Size Inspector for stack
Works for me. Something is going on at your end. If you click and hold on the small arrows, does the stack size change, tracking the increase or decrease in the values? Craig Newman In a message dated 6/28/10 11:07:50 AM, mich...@michaelsmanias.com writes: When I type in a new location and tab out of the field in the size position inspector for a stack nothing happens. All other objects I've done this with update their location when I tab out. Is this a feature or a bug? If it is a feature, why? Thanks, ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location parameters in Size Inspector for stack
Yes this works. On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:16 AM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Works for me. Something is going on at your end. If you click and hold on the small arrows, does the stack size change, tracking the increase or decrease in the values? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location parameters in Size Inspector for stack
So the size tracks the changes when clicking on the arrows, but NOT when you enter a value and leave the field? Craig Newman In a message dated 6/28/10 11:24:39 AM, mich...@michaelsmanias.com writes: Yes this works. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location parameters in Size Inspector for stack
When I go to one of the location fields, type in a different number; tab: nothing happens. If I click either of the arrows for the location's input fields of the stack, the stack updates to the incremented value. I've quit and restarted Rev; created a new empty mainstack with the same results. Here is something stranger: If I click the max or min width arrow the stack shrinks to about width=3, height=10 not at the location in the inspector. I can then click the size fields arrow to get the size and width to update but the stack is not at the location advertised. If I click one of the arrows associated with the location the location updates. I'm running 4.0 on 10.6.4 Michael On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:27 AM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: So the size tracks the changes when clicking on the arrows, but NOT when you enter a value and leave the field? Craig Newman ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location parameters in Size Inspector for stack
Michael D Mays wrote: When I go to one of the location fields, type in a different number; tab: nothing happens. If I click either of the arrows for the location's input fields of the stack, the stack updates to the incremented value. I've quit and restarted Rev; created a new empty mainstack with the same results. It looks like a very minor bug where those fields aren't recognizing a closefield. If you use the Enter key after typing a value, it works. Here is something stranger: If I click the max or min width arrow the stack shrinks to about width=3, height=10 not at the location in the inspector. I can then click the size fields arrow to get the size and width to update but the stack is not at the location advertised. If I click one of the arrows associated with the location the location updates. I can't reproduct this one. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location parameters in Size Inspector for stack
Jacque- Monday, June 28, 2010, 12:25:11 PM, you wrote: I can't reproduct this one. I wish I had been waiting around for someone to coin that word... ...but then I would have been precrastinating... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location parameters in Size Inspector for stack
On 06/28/2010 10:28 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Jacque- Monday, June 28, 2010, 12:25:11 PM, you wrote: I can't reproduct this one. I wish I had been waiting around for someone to coin that word... ...but then I would have been precrastinating... Somebody around here has been procrustean with their words . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location parameters in Size Inspector for stack
Richmond- Monday, June 28, 2010, 12:39:52 PM, you wrote: On 06/28/2010 10:28 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Jacque- Monday, June 28, 2010, 12:25:11 PM, you wrote: I can't reproduct this one. I wish I had been waiting around for someone to coin that word... ...but then I would have been precrastinating... Somebody around here has been procrustean with their words . . . :) I'm pro-crustacean. Does that count? -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location parameters in Size Inspector for stack
Mark Wieder wrote: Jacque- Monday, June 28, 2010, 12:25:11 PM, you wrote: I can't reproduct this one. I wish I had been waiting around for someone to coin that word... ...but then I would have been precrastinating... groan Reproduct is a perfectly good word, it just isn't in widespread use yet. Knowing you, it soon will be... -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location parameters in Size Inspector for stack
On 06/28/2010 10:44 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Monday, June 28, 2010, 12:39:52 PM, you wrote: On 06/28/2010 10:28 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Jacque- Monday, June 28, 2010, 12:25:11 PM, you wrote: I can't reproduct this one. I wish I had been waiting around for someone to coin that word... ...but then I would have been precrastinating... Somebody around here has been procrustean with their words . . . :) I'm pro-crustacean. Does that count? At the University of Abertay I had a lecturer called Mrs Crab; she hated me because she taught us Visual Basic 5 and I always reproduced the homework in both VB5 and RunRev - she told me that I was being too clever! It really made me feel like a boiled lobster at time . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location parameters in Size Inspector for stack
On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:44 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Monday, June 28, 2010, 12:39:52 PM, you wrote: On 06/28/2010 10:28 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Jacque- Monday, June 28, 2010, 12:25:11 PM, you wrote: I can't reproduct this one. I wish I had been waiting around for someone to coin that word... ...but then I would have been precrastinating... Somebody around here has been procrustean with their words . . . :) I'm pro-crustacean. Does that count? 'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.' 'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you CAN make words mean so many different things.' 'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master—that's all.' -- Through the Looking Glass -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location parameters in Size Inspector for stack
On 06/28/2010 11:10 PM, Peter Brigham MD wrote: On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:44 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Monday, June 28, 2010, 12:39:52 PM, you wrote: On 06/28/2010 10:28 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Jacque- Monday, June 28, 2010, 12:25:11 PM, you wrote: I can't reproduct this one. I wish I had been waiting around for someone to coin that word... ...but then I would have been precrastinating... Somebody around here has been procrustean with their words . . . :) I'm pro-crustacean. Does that count? 'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.' 'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you CAN make words mean so many different things.' 'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master—that's all.' -- Through the Looking Glass A somewhat ovoid quotation; which, to be otiose, brings us back to reproducting! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location parameters in Size Inspector for stack
On Jun 28, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Richmond wrote: On 06/28/2010 11:10 PM, Peter Brigham MD wrote: On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:44 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Monday, June 28, 2010, 12:39:52 PM, you wrote: On 06/28/2010 10:28 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Jacque- Monday, June 28, 2010, 12:25:11 PM, you wrote: I can't reproduct this one. I wish I had been waiting around for someone to coin that word... ...but then I would have been precrastinating... Somebody around here has been procrustean with their words . . . :) I'm pro-crustacean. Does that count? 'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.' 'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you CAN make words mean so many different things.' 'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master— that's all.' -- Through the Looking Glass A somewhat ovoid quotation; which, to be otiose, brings us back to reproducting! I think we need to stick to the English linguage. Have we beaten this dead horse sufficiently yet? -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location parameters in Size Inspector for stack
Peter- Monday, June 28, 2010, 1:27:38 PM, you wrote: I think we need to stick to the English linguage. Have we beaten this dead horse sufficiently yet? One of my favorite books, unfortunately long out of print (apparently there's a used copy on Amazon for $330) is fortunately on line. You have to read them out loud: try starting with Ladle Rat Rotten Hut. http://www.crockford.com/wrrrld/anguish.html -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
