Re: Multiplatform Revolution
Steve, Don't take this the wrong way, but you really should contact RunRev directly. They can help you decide on the best approach for what you want to do. I did and they were very helpful when I was trying to decide. Just off the top of my head this idea does not sound like the best idea. I may be wrong but please contact the RunRev team and I know they will help you. Tom On Nov 25, 2005, at 8:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to beat this topic to death but For my purposes of wanting to develop with rev on win+mac I would buy dreamcard for one platform and studio for another. I could then develop on both but only compile something on one. Is dreamcard the same as studio but without the ability to produce standalone? Thanks Steve ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Multiplatform Revolution
Not to beat this topic to death but For my purposes of wanting to develop with rev on win+mac I would buy dreamcard for one platform and studio for another. I could then develop on both but only compile something on one. Is dreamcard the same as studio but without the ability to produce standalone? Thanks Steve ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Multiplatform Revolution
So a studio licence for a given platform lets you roll out on other platforms? The extra $199 is to use the ide on the other platforms? Guess I had it all wrong. Steve On 11/25/05, David Burgun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > Does getting a license for multi-platform entitle you to run the IDE on > > both > > If you get the studio version, you the IDE will run on one platform > of your choice, and you can added the ability to run on additional > platforms for a reduced price for each additional platform. > > You can build standalones to target any of the supported platforms though. > > If I were you, I'd just buy a studio license for one platform, this > entitles you to one year of free updates and you can renew at the end > of that. You can always buy an addtional platform when if and when > you want to. > > The base system costs £199 (one host platform) and each additional > host platform costs £133. > > Hope this helps > Dave > > > >So far I am impressed by revolution. I'm somebody that is coming back > >to the mac after a decade. At one point in my life I loved HyperCard. > >Most of my clients are on PCs so if I end up using revolution I am > >going to need to byte the bullet and buy PC/Mac. Does getting a > >license for multi-platform entitle you to run the IDE on both > >platforms? I don't have a specific use for it yet so if I put out the > >money its a big investment for me at this point. How important would > >you say is buying the updates (support). Does RR get bug fixes often? > >Any other pointers? I was about to buy Supercard (mostly to toy with) > >which I love but not being able to run anything I develop for 90% of > >my clients seems like learning time not well spent. > > > >Thanks > > > >Steve > >___ > >use-revolution mailing list > >use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > >Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >subscription preferences: > >http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > -- Steven Fernandez (787) 647-6800 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Multiplatform Revolution
David- Friday, November 25, 2005, 8:16:30 AM, you wrote: > Here's a question of my own on the subject. If we have 2 licenses one > for Mac and one for Windows, is it ok for 2 developers to use the Mac > version at the same time as long as they are not using the Windows > version at EXACTLY the same time?? Or Vice Versa! IMO, licensing issues are better directed at the rev team at [EMAIL PROTECTED] All we can do here is guess at them. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Multiplatform Revolution
Steve, No, the ability to produce standalones for multiple platforms is there at the start. Then like in your case if you want to run the ide on a different platform then you should pay for that. I develop for both platforms and do most ide work on the Mac, only a couple of times did I need to open a stack on Windows in the ide, most times testing the standalone was enough. Also, I can share a folder on my Mac with Virtual PC and test immediately on the Mac and PC. Then I test on an actual PC hardware when I am close to finished. All in all, Rev's pricing is very comparable to other solutions. Tom On Nov 25, 2005, at 9:50 AM, Steve wrote: Thanks Tom, I'm still not clear on if when you buy a platform and add another platform are you just buying the ability to produce those executables or also run the ide on that platform? I would be amazed if it did not let you run the ide but I want to make sure. I figure if I buy it I should add the other platform while I am at it. The savings are $100 and I work on both platforms all the time regardless of if I have a specific need at this point. I wish there was some other licensing scheme that allowed multiplatform. Maybe a licence that allowed you to run the ide on all platforms but if you want to actually produce executables for platform x that is when you need to acquire a license for that platform. I have always felt that these kinds of tools shoudl do all they can to get in peoples hands and get them hooked. Make them pay when they actually need it. Steve On Nov 25, 2005, at 9:55 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Steve welcome back to the Mac. and welcome to the Revolution!!! This is just my opinion: I was looking for a solution that would let me develop on the Mac in an upper level scripting language but deliver on the Mac and PC. Rev does it. Then I needed to track down some very specific PC only issues and so I have the license which allows me to run Rev on Windows and code there. Rev does it. You may not need to go that far and you can always upgrade your license if that becomes necessary. I came from Supercard, which I loved, and found I could get up and running with Rev in a few weeks and was building my first 'real' application for our company in just under 5 weeks. I mean the bells and whistles type. There are a couple of differences that you need to learn between Rev/SC and the online videos help there as well as this list and there are some resources on the web. I would suggest buying the cheapest version until you get a feel for Rev and then upgrading to what you need later. The same with updates/support. As far as I know Dreamcard is the only one that does not deploy on multiple platforms, I think you buy the one for the platform you are on. I may be wrong though so check the RunRev site. Truth be told, If you loved SC and yearn to develop for the other 90% of your clients (PC users) then you will fall in love with REV and you will end up buying the more expanded version. ;-) I did and won't turn back. As far as updates, I let mine lapse after this big project came to completion and although I put it off I plan on updating in the next few weeks anyway. My thoughts are if I am making money with it then I need to support it, if I am playing with it then I don't need to go that far. Plus the updates and feature enhancements and bug fixes are worth it. Not looking back, Tom P.S. Did I mention this list??? It is the single best resource you have available to you. On Nov 25, 2005, at 8:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far I am impressed by revolution. I'm somebody that is coming back to the mac after a decade. At one point in my life I loved HyperCard. Most of my clients are on PCs so if I end up using revolution I am going to need to byte the bullet and buy PC/Mac. Does getting a license for multi-platform entitle you to run the IDE on both platforms? I don't have a specific use for it yet so if I put out the money its a big investment for me at this point. How important would you say is buying the updates (support). Does RR get bug fixes often? Any other pointers? I was about to buy Supercard (mostly to toy with) which I love but not being able to run anything I develop for 90% of my clients seems like learning time not well spent. Thanks Steve ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing
Re: Multiplatform Revolution
Hi, Here's a question of my own on the subject. If we have 2 licenses one for Mac and one for Windows, is it ok for 2 developers to use the Mac version at the same time as long as they are not using the Windows version at EXACTLY the same time?? Or Vice Versa! Thanks Dave Thanks Tom, I'm still not clear on if when you buy a platform and add another platform are you just buying the ability to produce those executables or also run the ide on that platform? The RunRev IDE running on any platform can produce Standalones for ANY of the supported platforms. When you buy an additional platform you are just buying the ability to run the IDE on that platform. I would be amazed if it did not let you run the ide but I want to make sure. I figure if I buy it I should add the other platform while I am at it. The savings are $100 and I work on both platforms all the time regardless of if I have a specific need at this point. I wish there was some other licensing scheme that allowed multiplatform. Maybe a licence that allowed you to run the ide on all platforms but if you want to actually produce executables for platform x that is when you need to acquire a license for that platform. I have always felt that these kinds of tools shoudl do all they can to get in peoples hands and get them hooked. Make them pay when they actually need it. It works the exact opposite way around! You can develop for any target on N host platforms, you pay for the N platforms not for the ability to produce Standalones. Hope this helps Dave Steve On Nov 25, 2005, at 9:55 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Steve welcome back to the Mac. and welcome to the Revolution!!! This is just my opinion: I was looking for a solution that would let me develop on the Mac in an upper level scripting language but deliver on the Mac and PC. Rev does it. Then I needed to track down some very specific PC only issues and so I have the license which allows me to run Rev on Windows and code there. Rev does it. You may not need to go that far and you can always upgrade your license if that becomes necessary. I came from Supercard, which I loved, and found I could get up and running with Rev in a few weeks and was building my first 'real' application for our company in just under 5 weeks. I mean the bells and whistles type. There are a couple of differences that you need to learn between Rev/SC and the online videos help there as well as this list and there are some resources on the web. I would suggest buying the cheapest version until you get a feel for Rev and then upgrading to what you need later. The same with updates/support. As far as I know Dreamcard is the only one that does not deploy on multiple platforms, I think you buy the one for the platform you are on. I may be wrong though so check the RunRev site. Truth be told, If you loved SC and yearn to develop for the other 90% of your clients (PC users) then you will fall in love with REV and you will end up buying the more expanded version. ;-) I did and won't turn back. As far as updates, I let mine lapse after this big project came to completion and although I put it off I plan on updating in the next few weeks anyway. My thoughts are if I am making money with it then I need to support it, if I am playing with it then I don't need to go that far. Plus the updates and feature enhancements and bug fixes are worth it. Not looking back, Tom P.S. Did I mention this list??? It is the single best resource you have available to you. On Nov 25, 2005, at 8:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far I am impressed by revolution. I'm somebody that is coming back to the mac after a decade. At one point in my life I loved HyperCard. Most of my clients are on PCs so if I end up using revolution I am going to need to byte the bullet and buy PC/Mac. Does getting a license for multi-platform entitle you to run the IDE on both platforms? I don't have a specific use for it yet so if I put out the money its a big investment for me at this point. How important would you say is buying the updates (support). Does RR get bug fixes often? Any other pointers? I was about to buy Supercard (mostly to toy with) which I love but not being able to run anything I develop for 90% of my clients seems like learning time not well spent. Thanks Steve ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Re: Multiplatform Revolution
Thanks Tom, I'm still not clear on if when you buy a platform and add another platform are you just buying the ability to produce those executables or also run the ide on that platform? The RunRev IDE running on any platform can produce Standalones for ANY of the supported platforms. When you buy an additional platform you are just buying the ability to run the IDE on that platform. I would be amazed if it did not let you run the ide but I want to make sure. I figure if I buy it I should add the other platform while I am at it. The savings are $100 and I work on both platforms all the time regardless of if I have a specific need at this point. I wish there was some other licensing scheme that allowed multiplatform. Maybe a licence that allowed you to run the ide on all platforms but if you want to actually produce executables for platform x that is when you need to acquire a license for that platform. I have always felt that these kinds of tools shoudl do all they can to get in peoples hands and get them hooked. Make them pay when they actually need it. It works the exact opposite way around! You can develop for any target on N host platforms, you pay for the N platforms not for the ability to produce Standalones. Hope this helps Dave Steve On Nov 25, 2005, at 9:55 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Steve welcome back to the Mac. and welcome to the Revolution!!! This is just my opinion: I was looking for a solution that would let me develop on the Mac in an upper level scripting language but deliver on the Mac and PC. Rev does it. Then I needed to track down some very specific PC only issues and so I have the license which allows me to run Rev on Windows and code there. Rev does it. You may not need to go that far and you can always upgrade your license if that becomes necessary. I came from Supercard, which I loved, and found I could get up and running with Rev in a few weeks and was building my first 'real' application for our company in just under 5 weeks. I mean the bells and whistles type. There are a couple of differences that you need to learn between Rev/SC and the online videos help there as well as this list and there are some resources on the web. I would suggest buying the cheapest version until you get a feel for Rev and then upgrading to what you need later. The same with updates/support. As far as I know Dreamcard is the only one that does not deploy on multiple platforms, I think you buy the one for the platform you are on. I may be wrong though so check the RunRev site. Truth be told, If you loved SC and yearn to develop for the other 90% of your clients (PC users) then you will fall in love with REV and you will end up buying the more expanded version. ;-) I did and won't turn back. As far as updates, I let mine lapse after this big project came to completion and although I put it off I plan on updating in the next few weeks anyway. My thoughts are if I am making money with it then I need to support it, if I am playing with it then I don't need to go that far. Plus the updates and feature enhancements and bug fixes are worth it. Not looking back, Tom P.S. Did I mention this list??? It is the single best resource you have available to you. On Nov 25, 2005, at 8:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far I am impressed by revolution. I'm somebody that is coming back to the mac after a decade. At one point in my life I loved HyperCard. Most of my clients are on PCs so if I end up using revolution I am going to need to byte the bullet and buy PC/Mac. Does getting a license for multi-platform entitle you to run the IDE on both platforms? I don't have a specific use for it yet so if I put out the money its a big investment for me at this point. How important would you say is buying the updates (support). Does RR get bug fixes often? Any other pointers? I was about to buy Supercard (mostly to toy with) which I love but not being able to run anything I develop for 90% of my clients seems like learning time not well spent. Thanks Steve ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url
Re: Multiplatform Revolution
Thanks Tom, I'm still not clear on if when you buy a platform and add another platform are you just buying the ability to produce those executables or also run the ide on that platform? I would be amazed if it did not let you run the ide but I want to make sure. I figure if I buy it I should add the other platform while I am at it. The savings are $100 and I work on both platforms all the time regardless of if I have a specific need at this point. I wish there was some other licensing scheme that allowed multiplatform. Maybe a licence that allowed you to run the ide on all platforms but if you want to actually produce executables for platform x that is when you need to acquire a license for that platform. I have always felt that these kinds of tools shoudl do all they can to get in peoples hands and get them hooked. Make them pay when they actually need it. Steve On Nov 25, 2005, at 9:55 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Steve welcome back to the Mac. and welcome to the Revolution!!! This is just my opinion: I was looking for a solution that would let me develop on the Mac in an upper level scripting language but deliver on the Mac and PC. Rev does it. Then I needed to track down some very specific PC only issues and so I have the license which allows me to run Rev on Windows and code there. Rev does it. You may not need to go that far and you can always upgrade your license if that becomes necessary. I came from Supercard, which I loved, and found I could get up and running with Rev in a few weeks and was building my first 'real' application for our company in just under 5 weeks. I mean the bells and whistles type. There are a couple of differences that you need to learn between Rev/SC and the online videos help there as well as this list and there are some resources on the web. I would suggest buying the cheapest version until you get a feel for Rev and then upgrading to what you need later. The same with updates/support. As far as I know Dreamcard is the only one that does not deploy on multiple platforms, I think you buy the one for the platform you are on. I may be wrong though so check the RunRev site. Truth be told, If you loved SC and yearn to develop for the other 90% of your clients (PC users) then you will fall in love with REV and you will end up buying the more expanded version. ;-) I did and won't turn back. As far as updates, I let mine lapse after this big project came to completion and although I put it off I plan on updating in the next few weeks anyway. My thoughts are if I am making money with it then I need to support it, if I am playing with it then I don't need to go that far. Plus the updates and feature enhancements and bug fixes are worth it. Not looking back, Tom P.S. Did I mention this list??? It is the single best resource you have available to you. On Nov 25, 2005, at 8:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far I am impressed by revolution. I'm somebody that is coming back to the mac after a decade. At one point in my life I loved HyperCard. Most of my clients are on PCs so if I end up using revolution I am going to need to byte the bullet and buy PC/Mac. Does getting a license for multi-platform entitle you to run the IDE on both platforms? I don't have a specific use for it yet so if I put out the money its a big investment for me at this point. How important would you say is buying the updates (support). Does RR get bug fixes often? Any other pointers? I was about to buy Supercard (mostly to toy with) which I love but not being able to run anything I develop for 90% of my clients seems like learning time not well spent. Thanks Steve ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Multiplatform Revolution
Steve welcome back to the Mac. and welcome to the Revolution!!! This is just my opinion: I was looking for a solution that would let me develop on the Mac in an upper level scripting language but deliver on the Mac and PC. Rev does it. Then I needed to track down some very specific PC only issues and so I have the license which allows me to run Rev on Windows and code there. Rev does it. You may not need to go that far and you can always upgrade your license if that becomes necessary. I came from Supercard, which I loved, and found I could get up and running with Rev in a few weeks and was building my first 'real' application for our company in just under 5 weeks. I mean the bells and whistles type. There are a couple of differences that you need to learn between Rev/SC and the online videos help there as well as this list and there are some resources on the web. I would suggest buying the cheapest version until you get a feel for Rev and then upgrading to what you need later. The same with updates/ support. As far as I know Dreamcard is the only one that does not deploy on multiple platforms, I think you buy the one for the platform you are on. I may be wrong though so check the RunRev site. Truth be told, If you loved SC and yearn to develop for the other 90% of your clients (PC users) then you will fall in love with REV and you will end up buying the more expanded version. ;-) I did and won't turn back. As far as updates, I let mine lapse after this big project came to completion and although I put it off I plan on updating in the next few weeks anyway. My thoughts are if I am making money with it then I need to support it, if I am playing with it then I don't need to go that far. Plus the updates and feature enhancements and bug fixes are worth it. Not looking back, Tom P.S. Did I mention this list??? It is the single best resource you have available to you. On Nov 25, 2005, at 8:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far I am impressed by revolution. I'm somebody that is coming back to the mac after a decade. At one point in my life I loved HyperCard. Most of my clients are on PCs so if I end up using revolution I am going to need to byte the bullet and buy PC/Mac. Does getting a license for multi-platform entitle you to run the IDE on both platforms? I don't have a specific use for it yet so if I put out the money its a big investment for me at this point. How important would you say is buying the updates (support). Does RR get bug fixes often? Any other pointers? I was about to buy Supercard (mostly to toy with) which I love but not being able to run anything I develop for 90% of my clients seems like learning time not well spent. Thanks Steve ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Multiplatform Revolution
Hi, Does getting a license for multi-platform entitle you to run the IDE on both If you get the studio version, you the IDE will run on one platform of your choice, and you can added the ability to run on additional platforms for a reduced price for each additional platform. You can build standalones to target any of the supported platforms though. If I were you, I'd just buy a studio license for one platform, this entitles you to one year of free updates and you can renew at the end of that. You can always buy an addtional platform when if and when you want to. The base system costs £199 (one host platform) and each additional host platform costs £133. Hope this helps Dave So far I am impressed by revolution. I'm somebody that is coming back to the mac after a decade. At one point in my life I loved HyperCard. Most of my clients are on PCs so if I end up using revolution I am going to need to byte the bullet and buy PC/Mac. Does getting a license for multi-platform entitle you to run the IDE on both platforms? I don't have a specific use for it yet so if I put out the money its a big investment for me at this point. How important would you say is buying the updates (support). Does RR get bug fixes often? Any other pointers? I was about to buy Supercard (mostly to toy with) which I love but not being able to run anything I develop for 90% of my clients seems like learning time not well spent. Thanks Steve ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Multiplatform Revolution
So far I am impressed by revolution. I'm somebody that is coming back to the mac after a decade. At one point in my life I loved HyperCard. Most of my clients are on PCs so if I end up using revolution I am going to need to byte the bullet and buy PC/Mac. Does getting a license for multi-platform entitle you to run the IDE on both platforms? I don't have a specific use for it yet so if I put out the money its a big investment for me at this point. How important would you say is buying the updates (support). Does RR get bug fixes often? Any other pointers? I was about to buy Supercard (mostly to toy with) which I love but not being able to run anything I develop for 90% of my clients seems like learning time not well spent. Thanks Steve ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
