RE: Cross-Platform Memory Inconsistencies
Maybe it's time you admited pcs are not so bad after all ;) Welcome to the cross-plaform world... I hear standard buttons or animated gifs are a bad CPU cycle eater in the osx world... Xavier http://monsieurx.com/taoo - going where no object's been before -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mathewson Sent: Saturday, 17 December, 2005 12:33 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Cross-Platform Memory Inconsistencies Why does a stack on a CD run really quite well on a Pentium 2, 300MHz, 128 MB RAM (Win 98), a Pentium 3, 700 MHz, 128 MB RAM (Ubuntu 5.10) and grind to a shuddering halt on an iMac G3, 333MHz, 320 MB RAM (Mac 10.4)? This is a 'bother' as one has to plan for eventualities with machines and operating systems one might not own and/or have access to. __ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.html ___ --- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Cross-Platform Memory Inconsistencies
What I do not like is MS Windows. I can understand this... but you should have another look. As a standard UI It cannot be avoided and Moft - as much as I hated them - do try (and do get it right once in a while) to make a good job of it... Just like Rev tries to make all of us as happy as possible... My real question boils down to the following: is there a way to construct a stack that can inform one about relative memory requirements - let us imagine a stack with a few entry-fields: 1. size of stack to be ported 2. memory required to run that stack so one could pop that stack on various computers running various operating system - tap into field 1 the size of one's stack; click a suitably titled button, and the memory requirements will magically appear in field 2. This would be a really useful piece of stuff!!! only rev could do this... I open TAOO and whop, 100MBs of ram are eaten... it's pretty fast though... I don't get it... the only trick I found is max out your ram... cheers Xavier ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cross-Platform Memory Inconsistencies
Hi Richmond, From the docs (FAQ): How do I estimate how much memory your application will need? The amount of memory required by your standalone application depends on many factors, including the platform, the complexity of your code, which Revolution custom libraries you include, and how many windows you have open at once. As a general rule of thumb, add up the size of the stacks to be loaded into memory (and the picture and movie files to be displayed in referenced controls) at any one time and add 4M to obtain a rough approximation: total size of loaded stacks + total size of external files displayed + 4 megabytes = minimum memory required (very approximate) Without forgetting that Rev uses virtual memory as soon it's needed and can't crash due to a lack of memory :-) Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet -- http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Le 17 déc. 05 à 13:30, Mathewson a écrit : I have absolutely no problem with PCs - in fact my day-to-day income depends on 4 COMPAQs running Ubuntu Linux 5.10. What I do not like is MS Windows. Notwithstanding those slightly OT remarks: There seems to be no effective way of telling what the memory requirements of an RR stack will be (either as a stack running with a player, or as a standalone) on the differing platforms on which it may be delivered. As I work with software I don't understand about RAM, DRAMM, SDRAMM or DAMN (the last type of memory seems to be the one I come across most!) and the niceties of Virtual Memory. My real question boils down to the following: is there a way to construct a stack that can inform one about relative memory requirements - let us imagine a stack with a few entry-fields: 1. size of stack to be ported 2. memory required to run that stack so one could pop that stack on various computers running various operating system - tap into field 1 the size of one's stack; click a suitably titled button, and the memory requirements will magically appear in field 2. This would be a really useful piece of stuff!!! sincerely, Richmond __ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.html ___ --- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cross-Platform Memory Inconsistencies
On 17/12/2005, at 22:58, Mathewson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Why does a stack on a CD run really quite well on a Pentium 2, 300MHz, 128 MB RAM (Win 98), a Pentium 3, 700 MHz, 128 MB RAM (Ubuntu 5.10) and grind to a shuddering halt on an iMac G3, 333MHz, 320 MB RAM (Mac 10.4)? This is a 'bother' as one has to plan for eventualities with machines and operating systems one might not own and/or have access to. I would expect a 333MHz iMac G3 running OS X 10.4 to grind exceedingly slow all by itself. I have an old 300MHz Powerbook G3 256MB running OS X 10.2 and it goes quite respectably and runs Rev perfectly well within its own limitations. I suggest that Rev is not the problem. The rational comparison with Win 9x on old platforms is Mac OS9, not the latest and greatest in OS X. Alternatively, have you tried Linux on the iMac? regards David post script: The G3 is not the machine I use, thankfully. We do have current Powerbooks on which to work while the G3 waits on the shelf still hoping for a role in life :-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
