Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-05 Thread Medard
J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:

 I had the same experience with another non-rev app. Full system lockup,
 requiring a hard power reset to reboot the Mac. It was the same deal, it
 started after installing the 10.6.4 update.

When I think I avoided the 10.6.3 upgrade, as I heard of numerous
problem with this version

So I jumped directly from 10.6.2 to 10.6.4

grin, grin...
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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-05 Thread stephen barncard
I still think it's all because of ^%$$#^^#^ Flash.  10.6.4 crashing browser,
usually during a flash movie.

I love to blame flash for everything wrong in my life.

On 5 October 2010 02:46, Medard liste.r...@medard.on-rev.com wrote:

 J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:

  I had the same experience with another non-rev app. Full system lockup,
  requiring a hard power reset to reboot the Mac. It was the same deal, it
  started after installing the 10.6.4 update.

 When I think I avoided the 10.6.3 upgrade, as I heard of numerous
 problem with this version

 So I jumped directly from 10.6.2 to 10.6.4

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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-05 Thread Pierre Sahores
I confirm having seen lots of safari's flash module crashes on my MBP i7 
(10.6.4, Safari 5.0.2) over the last weeks and as long as flash is anyware 
today, even in all the main SEO web pages rendering tools...

Best,

Pierre


Le 5 oct. 2010 à 15:50, stephen barncard a écrit :

 I still think it's all because of ^%$$#^^#^ Flash.  10.6.4 crashing browser,
 usually during a flash movie.
 
 I love to blame flash for everything wrong in my life.
 
 On 5 October 2010 02:46, Medard liste.r...@medard.on-rev.com wrote:
 
 J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:
 
 I had the same experience with another non-rev app. Full system lockup,
 requiring a hard power reset to reboot the Mac. It was the same deal, it
 started after installing the 10.6.4 update.
 
 When I think I avoided the 10.6.3 upgrade, as I heard of numerous
 problem with this version
 
 So I jumped directly from 10.6.2 to 10.6.4
 
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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-05 Thread Medard
J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:

 It was the same deal, it started after installing the 10.6.4 update.

speaking of that, I heard that things could be restored by
re-installing the combo...

so I downloaded the latest combo (it takes ages!)

and re-installed it

the result = encouraging, but not entirely!
that works on an admin user
that works on the Guest user
that crash on my current user ;-

Scratching my head..



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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!? NO: it's an extensions problem

2010-10-05 Thread Medard
Medard liste.r...@medard.on-rev.com wrote:

 Scratching my head..

reading other posts... and thinking of Flash ;-

I remember I do have a number of extensions for Safari related to
Flash!!

as ClickToFlash, FlashToHTML, YouTube...

so I deactivated all the extensions in Safari...

and...

Revlets do load



for now, searching which is the culprit ;-)))


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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!? NO: it's an extensions problem

2010-10-05 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Medard,

 Medard liste.r...@medard.on-rev.com wrote:
 
 Scratching my head..
 reading other posts... and thinking of Flash ;-
 I remember I do have a number of extensions for Safari related to
 Flash!!as ClickToFlash, FlashToHTML, YouTube...
 so I deactivated all the extensions in Safari...
 and... Revlets do load

YES! Same here!

 for now, searching which is the culprit ;-)))

Since I only have one extension installed it is AdBlock in my case!

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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!? NO: it's an extensions problem

2010-10-05 Thread Medard
Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.com wrote:

 Since I only have one extension installed it is AdBlock in my case!

if you are right, it is somewhat troublesome: AdBlock is indeed a very
useful extension... 


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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!? NO: it's an extensions problem

2010-10-05 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Medard,

Am 05.10.2010 um 18:25 schrieb Medard:

 Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.com wrote:
 Since I only have one extension installed it is AdBlock in my case!
 if you are right, it is somewhat troublesome: AdBlock is indeed a very
 useful extension... 

You bet, and that's why I rather avoid to load revlets until this got fixed!


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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!? NO: it's an extensions problem

2010-10-05 Thread Medard
Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.com wrote:

 Since I only have one extension installed it is AdBlock in my case!

Ahem!

I activated AdBlock (only)

and Safari crashed at revlet launch ;-



Be positive: we have now something to tell to the tech support ;-)))


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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!? NO: it's an extensions problem

2010-10-05 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Medard,

 Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.com wrote:
 
 Since I only have one extension installed it is AdBlock in my case!
 
 Ahem!
 
 I activated AdBlock (only)

you mean you DEactivated AdBlock, right?

 and Safari crashed at revlet launch ;-
 
 Be positive: we have now something to tell to the tech support ;-)))

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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!? NO: it's an extensions problem

2010-10-05 Thread Medard
Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.com wrote:

 you mean you DEactivated AdBlock, right?

first, I deactivated all the extensions
(general switch at the top of the panel)

revlets worked

second I put the switch on activated
and I activated only AdBlock* (left panel, with individual extensions)

and revlets crashed

*2.21 on my Mac


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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!? NO: it's an extensions problem

2010-10-05 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Medard,

 Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.com wrote:
 
 you mean you DEactivated AdBlock, right?
 
 first, I deactivated all the extensions
 (general switch at the top of the panel)
 
 revlets worked
 
 second I put the switch on activated
 and I activated only AdBlock* (left panel, with individual extensions)
 
 and revlets crashed
 
 *2.21 on my Mac

I see.

But this was my only extension and crashed Safari everytime I tried to load a 
Revlet.
Once deactivated, Revlets load fine.


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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!? NO: it's an extensions problem

2010-10-05 Thread François Chaplais
How is adblock supposed to know a revlet is not an ad? The ice is thin between 
advertisement and information
Le 5 oct. 2010 à 21:30, Klaus on-rev a écrit :

 Hi Medard,
 
 Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.com wrote:
 
 you mean you DEactivated AdBlock, right?
 
 first, I deactivated all the extensions
 (general switch at the top of the panel)
 
 revlets worked
 
 second I put the switch on activated
 and I activated only AdBlock* (left panel, with individual extensions)
 
 and revlets crashed
 
 *2.21 on my Mac
 
 I see.
 
 But this was my only extension and crashed Safari everytime I tried to load a 
 Revlet.
 Once deactivated, Revlets load fine.
 
 
 Best
 
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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!? NO: it's an extensions problem

2010-10-05 Thread Klaus on-rev
Bonsoir François,

 How is adblock supposed to know a revlet is not an ad?

Pas du tôut, mon ami! :-)

It is not that the revlet does not get displayed, but instead Safari CRASHES
when AdBlock (in my case, maybe extensions in general?) is not deactivated!

 The ice is thin between advertisement and information
 Le 5 oct. 2010 à 21:30, Klaus on-rev a écrit :
 
 Hi Medard,
 
 Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.com wrote:
 
 you mean you DEactivated AdBlock, right?
 
 first, I deactivated all the extensions
 (general switch at the top of the panel)
 revlets worked
 second I put the switch on activated
 and I activated only AdBlock* (left panel, with individual extensions)
 and revlets crashed
 *2.21 on my Mac
 
 I see.
 But this was my only extension and crashed Safari everytime I tried to load 
 a Revlet.
 Once deactivated, Revlets load fine.

Best

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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!? NO: it's an extensions problem

2010-10-05 Thread Bob Sneidar
Let's say it was. Should that crash Safari? I think not. 

Bob


On Oct 5, 2010, at 12:39 PM, François Chaplais wrote:

 How is adblock supposed to know a revlet is not an ad? The ice is thin 
 between advertisement and information
 Le 5 oct. 2010 à 21:30, Klaus on-rev a écrit :
 
 Hi Medard,
 
 Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.com wrote:
 
 you mean you DEactivated AdBlock, right?
 
 first, I deactivated all the extensions
 (general switch at the top of the panel)
 
 revlets worked
 
 second I put the switch on activated
 and I activated only AdBlock* (left panel, with individual extensions)
 
 and revlets crashed
 
 *2.21 on my Mac
 
 I see.
 
 But this was my only extension and crashed Safari everytime I tried to load 
 a Revlet.
 Once deactivated, Revlets load fine.
 
 
 Best
 
 Klaus
 
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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-04 Thread Pierre Sahores
mac 10.6.4   your revlets run fine here too !


 At least on my machine...
 
 I upgraded from Mac OS X 10.6.2 to 10.6.4 at the end of June; 
 I don't remember if I acceded the installed revlets on my web page after
 that date -- maybe NOT, if I refer to the visitors IP (my personal IP is
 not fixed)
 
 Briefly, I think that the revlets runned correctly with Mac OS X 10.6.2
 Now, under 10.6.4 the crash is immediate ;-
 
 The revlets web page:
 http://medard.on-rev.com/RevWeb/index.irev
 
 Can you, on your side, test any revlet on this web page, and report the
 result, along with your Mac OS X version?
 
 TIA :-)
 
 PS: the technical support is aware of this bug, but excepted me they got
 only one bug report, along with the crash log
 
 PS2: tested on others machines, that runs smoothly on 10.5.8 and
 10.6.2...
 
 PS3: I tested on a fresh Guest account, and that crashes also...
 
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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-04 Thread Medard
BNig niggem...@uni-wh.de wrote:

 your revlets work for me: MacOSX 10.6.4, Safari 5.0.2, MacBook Pro Intel.

Thank you, and also to all who have responded :-)

Mmm... I forgot the new Safari version 5.x as a possible culprit*
-- but I see that it works on your machine!

* Safari 5 has a new extension scheme
is it possible it may conflict with the nprevweb extension?
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RE: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-04 Thread John Dixon

mac 10.6.4   your revlets run fine here !

John Dixon

 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
 From: liste.r...@medard.on-rev.com
 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 12:01:12 +0200
 Subject: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?
 
 At least on my machine...
 
 I upgraded from Mac OS X 10.6.2 to 10.6.4 at the end of June; 
 I don't remember if I acceded the installed revlets on my web page after
 that date -- maybe NOT, if I refer to the visitors IP (my personal IP is
 not fixed)
 
 Briefly, I think that the revlets runned correctly with Mac OS X 10.6.2
 Now, under 10.6.4 the crash is immediate ;-
 
 The revlets web page:
 http://medard.on-rev.com/RevWeb/index.irev
 
 Can you, on your side, test any revlet on this web page, and report the
 result, along with your Mac OS X version?
 
 TIA :-)
 
 PS: the technical support is aware of this bug, but excepted me they got
 only one bug report, along with the crash log
 
 PS2: tested on others machines, that runs smoothly on 10.5.8 and
 10.6.2...
 
 PS3: I tested on a fresh Guest account, and that crashes also...
 
 (-8 Médard
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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-04 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Medard,

 At least on my machine...
 
 I upgraded from Mac OS X 10.6.2 to 10.6.4 at the end of June; 
 I don't remember if I acceded the installed revlets on my web page after
 that date -- maybe NOT, if I refer to the visitors IP (my personal IP is
 not fixed)
 Briefly, I think that the revlets runned correctly with Mac OS X 10.6.2
 Now, under 10.6.4 the crash is immediate ;-
 The revlets web page:
 http://medard.on-rev.com/RevWeb/index.irev
 Can you, on your side, test any revlet on this web page, and report the
 result, along with your Mac OS X version?
 
 TIA :-)
 
 PS: the technical support is aware of this bug, but excepted me they got
 only one bug report, along with the crash log

Yep, that was me! :-)

 PS2: tested on others machines, that runs smoothly on 10.5.8 and
 10.6.2...
 
 PS3: I tested on a fresh Guest account, and that crashes also...
 
 (-8 Médard

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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-04 Thread BNig

Hi Dominique,
your revlets work for me: MacOSX 10.6.4, Safari 5.0.2, MacBook Pro Intel.

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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-04 Thread Richard Gaskin

Medard wrote:


At least on my machine...

I upgraded from Mac OS X 10.6.2 to 10.6.4 at the end of June;
I don't remember if I acceded the installed revlets on my web page after
that date -- maybe NOT, if I refer to the visitors IP (my personal IP is
not fixed)

Briefly, I think that the revlets runned correctly with Mac OS X 10.6.2
Now, under 10.6.4 the crash is immediate ;-

The revlets web page:
http://medard.on-rev.com/RevWeb/index.irev


I wasn't able to load the page (timeout), but I'm wondering:  are you 
setting the cursor there?


There's an issue reported against OS X 10.6.4 related to setting cursors:
http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=9021

If you follow the links I added there from a note on the improve-rev 
list from Mark Wieder, you'll find that there are a great many apps 
crashing under OS X 10.6.4.


In some cases (including two instances with a Rev-based app I've been 
testing) it not only crashed the Rev engine, but also brought down the 
Finder and made most other user processes inaccessible, something that 
shouldn't be possible in a Unix system.


So if your issue is like those I've seen and like so many are seeing 
with other apps, we may have to wait for OS X 10.6.5 to fix them.


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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-04 Thread Jeff Reynolds

Médard,

works fine on safari 5.0.2 on 10.5.8, so not 5.0.2 by itself seems to  
be a problem. i can try 5.0.2/10.6.4 late today for you.


cheers

jeff



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wrote:


your revlets work for me: MacOSX 10.6.4, Safari 5.0.2, MacBook Pro  
Intel.


Thank you, and also to all who have responded :-)

Mmm... I forgot the new Safari version 5.x as a possible culprit*
-- but I see that it works on your machine!

* Safari 5 has a new extension scheme
is it possible it may conflict with the nprevweb extension?


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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-04 Thread stephen barncard
BTW methinks the new FLASH 10.x stuff is crashing the current Safari version
- I finally switched to the latest WEBKIT browser daily build  (the latest
beta of Safari, really):

http://webkit.org/


On 4 October 2010 10:43, Jeff Reynolds j...@siphonophore.com wrote:

 Médard,

 works fine on safari 5.0.2 on 10.5.8, so not 5.0.2 by itself seems to be a
 problem. i can try 5.0.2/10.6.4 late today for you.

 cheers

 jeff




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  your revlets work for me: MacOSX 10.6.4, Safari 5.0.2, MacBook Pro Intel.


 Thank you, and also to all who have responded :-)

 Mmm... I forgot the new Safari version 5.x as a possible culprit*
 -- but I see that it works on your machine!

 * Safari 5 has a new extension scheme
 is it possible it may conflict with the nprevweb extension?


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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-04 Thread Medard
Jeff Reynolds j...@siphonophore.com wrote:

 works fine on safari 5.0.2 on 10.5.8, so not 5.0.2 by itself seems to
 be a problem. i can try 5.0.2/10.6.4 late today for you.

thank you -- but don't install 10.6.4 expressly, though!
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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-04 Thread Medard
stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:

 BTW methinks the new FLASH 10.x stuff is crashing the current Safari version
 - I finally switched to the latest WEBKIT browser daily build  (the latest
 beta of Safari, really):

webkit is the engine under the Safari hood ;-)
it is already installed on my Mac, I tested it for some new html 5
things...

I downloaded the latest night build -- and it crashed gracefully ;-
[another bug report to Apple!]
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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-04 Thread Medard
Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote:

 but I'm wondering:  are you setting the cursor there?

as far as I can see, nope...

glad to see that I am not the only one having problems with 10.6.4
-- I must say that it is the first problem I encountered with this
System version!

And MacFixIt said nothing about that ;-
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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-04 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 10/4/10 1:19 PM, Medard wrote:


glad to see that I am not the only one having problems with 10.6.4
-- I must say that it is the first problem I encountered with this
System version!


I had the same experience with another non-rev app. Full system lockup, 
requiring a hard power reset to reboot the Mac. It was the same deal, it 
started after installing the 10.6.4 update.


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Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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