Re: RTF documents as templates
Pure RTF text files created by Rev are a styled text format that is readable by Word and most text editors, but does not include images. On the mac, RTF documents (note the suffix .rtfd) created by TextEdit are actually BUNDLES, not files, and contain the RTF file and the graphic files. RTF files saved by Word I believe do not save images either, that is for the .doc format. On 8 June 2010 15:20, JosepM jmye...@mac.com wrote: Hi again, Some questions for the experts... How can open or print a RTF file without Word? TextEdit loss the images and format of tables... How can open and print from Applescript without view the flashing RTF file? Salut, Josep -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/RTF-documents-as-templates-tp322967p2248114.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RTF documents as templates
I recall a post from November 2008 where Franz Böhmisch posted a way to embed images into RTF files, followed by Ken Ray's abstraction of said method. Searching the use-revolution archives, I found these two links for you: http://mail.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2008-November/117180.html http://mail.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2008-November/117212.html Other than that, I'm afraid there's no built-in way to print those RTF documents and you'd have to rely on the presence of MS Word on the end-user machine. While it's nearly ubiquitous on Windows, MacOSX is another matter so you may have to decypher the .rtfd bundle format that TextEdit uses, to cram your images into it. Jan Schenkel = Quartam Reports PDF Library for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) --- On Wed, 6/9/10, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: Pure RTF text files created by Rev are a styled text format that is readable by Word and most text editors, but does not include images. On the mac, RTF documents (note the suffix .rtfd) created by TextEdit are actually BUNDLES, not files, and contain the RTF file and the graphic files. RTF files saved by Word I believe do not save images either, that is for the .doc format. On 8 June 2010 15:20, JosepM jmye...@mac.com wrote: Hi again, Some questions for the experts... How can open or print a RTF file without Word? TextEdit loss the images and format of tables... How can open and print from Applescript without view the flashing RTF file? Salut, Josep ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RTF documents as templates
Hi List, Here my tests... In MacOSX the RTF is RTFD that is a bundle as explained Jan. Showing the contents of bundle you can found one TXT.rtf file that contain the text and the n files for the asociated images used in the creation of the file from TextEdit. Steps. 1 Open TextEdit and create your template using images and positioning using tables if you need. If not put your text formated as you need. 2 Where you need replace some part, use the [[myreplacedtext1]] using [[ to open and ]] to close. As Jan show in her link above. 3 Save as RTFD 4 Open from Rev with the following code. The question is to open the TXT.rtf file and modify it. 5 Open directly from TextEdit and Print using Rev or Applescript. Pro No MS Word need. Easy way to use templates for the user. Con Poor alignment format, only tables, so to build some document A4 or Letter for example you need to check the lines, footers, etc... on mouseUp put mactoiso(áàïô_test) into text1 put This a long text to see how is showed inside the rtf file into description put Bottom text into footer put the system date into tDate answer file Where is the template file? if it is empty then exit mouseUp put it into theTemplateFile -- Duplicate the file with a new name put TXT.rtf into tFichero put theTemplateFile / tFichero into tTheFile put URL(binfile: tTheFile) into theRTFtext set the fileType to MSWDRTF put merge(theRTFtext) into URL (binfile: tTheFile) end mouseUp Salut, Josep -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/RTF-documents-as-templates-tp322967p2249102.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RTF documents as templates
Update code using theRTFText of field The revCopyFile don't copy the bundle, only create the file so searching for the list I found a piece of code to copy using the shell. If someone want the stack and the RTF file to test email me and I send you. Salut, Josep on mouseUp put mactoiso(the RTFText of fld f_texto1) into texto1 put mactoiso(the RTFText of fld f_texto2) into texto2 put mactoiso(the RTFText of fld f_texto_f1c1) into texto_f1c1 put mactoiso(the RTFText of fld f_texto_f1c2) into texto_f1c2 put mactoiso(the RTFText of fld f_texto_f1c3) into texto_f1c3 put mactoiso(the RTFText of fld f_texto_f2c1) into texto_f2c1 put mactoiso(the RTFText of fld f_texto_f2c2) into texto_f2c2 put mactoiso(the RTFText of fld f_texto_f2c3) into texto_f2c3 answer file Where is the template file? if it is empty then exit mouseUp put it into theTemplateFile ask file Save your message as: with TheResultingRTF.rtfd if it is empty then exit mouseUp put it into theMergedFile set the fileType to MSWDRTF -- put (cp -R -p quotetheTemplateFilequotequotetheMergedFilequote) into tCommand get shell(tCommand) -- put TXT .rtf into tFichero put theTemplateFile / tFichero into tTheFile put URL(binfile: tTheFile) into theRTFtext set the fileType to MSWDRTF put merge(theRTFtext) into URL (binfile: theMergedFile / tFichero) end mouseUp -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/RTF-documents-as-templates-tp322967p2249205.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RTF documents as templates
Hi Jan, And this can work if the word have images? I can't... :( Salut, Josep M. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/RTF-documents-as-templates-tp322967p2248067.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RTF documents as templates
Hi again, Some questions for the experts... How can open or print a RTF file without Word? TextEdit loss the images and format of tables... How can open and print from Applescript without view the flashing RTF file? Salut, Josep -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/RTF-documents-as-templates-tp322967p2248114.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RTF documents as templates
--- On Tue, 6/1/10, Robert Brenstein r...@robelko.com wrote: On 31.05.10 at 10:50 -0700 JosepM apparently wrote: Nop. My solution was store the entire document and search and replace before to build the document, and then out as PDF using Quartam PDF Library and Quartam Reports, but also you can print from a card. If you need to just print, producing PDF files might be a way to go. Using RTF works as well. I used RTF documents as templates to produce Word docs. Basically, I created a full blown, properly formatted Word doc as template, then replaced variable elements with tokens, in my case things like [title], [description]. Rev stack read RTF directly into a variable and replaced the tokens, then saved new file. One needs to use RTF commands for marking new paragraphs, styles, and code non-English characters. I even used to produce Word table with varying numbers of rows by marking a repeating code for row in RTF and replicating it as many times as needed. Some sleuthing required, though, to decipher blocks in RTF. Robert Sorry for the late reply - I'm just resurfacing after several months of deadlines at the day-job. Anyway, a while ago I wrote two articles for the revUp newsletter, titled 'The Word of Merge': - part 1: http://runrev.com/newsletter/november/issue61/newsletter3.php - part 2: http://www.runrev.com/newsletter/december/issue62/newsletter3.php In short, create a template file in Word, with double square brackets around variable names or revTalk expressions; save the template file in RTF format; read the file into a variable and use the 'merge' function to dynamically replace the content of each bit of text inside the double square brackets with its value. HTH, Jan Schenkel = Quartam Reports PDF Library for Revolution http://www.quartam.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RTF documents as templates
Let's try :) -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/RTF-documents-as-templates-tp322967p2238165.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RTF documents as templates
On 31.05.10 at 10:50 -0700 JosepM apparently wrote: Nop. My solution was store the entire document and search and replace before to build the document, and then out as PDF using Quartam PDF Library and Quartam Reports, but also you can print from a card. If you need to just print, producing PDF files might be a way to go. Using RTF works as well. I used RTF documents as templates to produce Word docs. Basically, I created a full blown, properly formatted Word doc as template, then replaced variable elements with tokens, in my case things like [title], [description]. Rev stack read RTF directly into a variable and replaced the tokens, then saved new file. One needs to use RTF commands for marking new paragraphs, styles, and code non-English characters. I even used to produce Word table with varying numbers of rows by marking a repeating code for row in RTF and replicating it as many times as needed. Some sleuthing required, though, to decipher blocks in RTF. Robert ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RTF documents as templates
I've been trying to figure out how to use an RTF document as a template using pretty much this same methodology. The problem I ran into is that sometimes, for reasons I don;t understand, the token names I put into the document get interspersed with RTF commands, so something that looks like [myToken] when displayed in Word ends up looking like [myRTF commandstoken]. That stops my search for tokens dead in it's tracks. Another method I've tried is to set up a Word document with merge fields in it and have my application write out a comma delimited file that is the source for the merge data. That works well if you have a predictable number of lines you want to print, not so good for variable number of lines. Right now, I've settled on writing out html code from templates that are defined within my Application. I have some conventions to deal with repeating lines. For example, if I was printing an invoice, I'd define one html line in the format of an invoice line and its definition would include a code that tells me I need to repeat that line for each invoice line I'm printing. That works quite well although so far I haven't figured out how to deal with printing a heading at the top of each page. I guess I should break down and spend some money on a real report writer, especially since all my data is stored in an sqlite database but it's a fun challenge to figure this stuff out sometimes! Pete Haworth On Jun 1, 2010, at 10:00 AM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: Message: 16 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 14:38:10 +0200 From: Robert Brenstein r...@robelko.com Subject: Re: RTF documents as templates To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: p06240805c82aae204...@[192.168.1.94] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed On 31.05.10 at 10:50 -0700 JosepM apparently wrote: Nop. My solution was store the entire document and search and replace before to build the document, and then out as PDF using Quartam PDF Library and Quartam Reports, but also you can print from a card. If you need to just print, producing PDF files might be a way to go. Using RTF works as well. I used RTF documents as templates to produce Word docs. Basically, I created a full blown, properly formatted Word doc as template, then replaced variable elements with tokens, in my case things like [title], [description]. Rev stack read RTF directly into a variable and replaced the tokens, then saved new file. One needs to use RTF commands for marking new paragraphs, styles, and code non-English characters. I even used to produce Word table with varying numbers of rows by marking a repeating code for row in RTF and replicating it as many times as needed. Some sleuthing required, though, to decipher blocks in RTF. Robert ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RTF documents as templates
Tinkering with the demo version of wordLib. It seems wordLib enters it into the field as HTMLText. This should make searching and replacing very easy, no? But i've noticed the formatting doesn't stay exact on the import. The alignments are off on even the sample documents. Is there anyway to prevent this I wonder? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/RTF-documents-as-templates-tp322967p2239058.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RTF documents as templates
Did you ever find a solution for this josep? I am in the early phases of planning to do something exactly like this. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/RTF-documents-as-templates-tp322967p2237515.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RTF documents as templates
Nop. My solution was store the entire document and search and replace before to build the document, and then out as PDF using Quartam PDF Library and Quartam Reports, but also you can print from a card. But now, some customers need customize reports and documents and again I need do something. Actually I customize the docs and send to the customer her document to use from Quartam Reports. I was thinking to create the template from a card for example, and convert for Quartam PDF or maybe using the new PrintToPDF when this will be available in the next release 5.0 If you have any idea about I'm very glad to help and collaborate. Salut, Josep -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/RTF-documents-as-templates-tp322967p2237670.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RTF documents as templates
What about using wordLib 1.3 to import template documents into a field, pull the records you need from the database, do the calculations necessary and fill the data into the placeholders saved into the word doc? This was the approach I was thinking of trying out. I would very much love to collaborate on a solution along these lines. Something customizable, a word Document template based reporting system. My timeframe on needing this solution is starting to look like the end of the week. How would you best like to work on this? via email? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/RTF-documents-as-templates-tp322967p2237801.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RTF documents as templates
Hi Andrew, You guess that is posible use the doc template with some graphic or images inside the word and fill all the data respecting the images format? I don't know wordLib 1.3 Also I think that maybe we can found other non-propietary format to use..., but let's try As you wish, email is fine for me. Salut, Josep El 31/05/2010, a las 22:27, Andrew Kluthe [via Runtime Revolution] escribió: What about using wordLib 1.3 to import template documents into a field, pull the records you need from the database, do the calculations necessary and fill the data into the placeholders saved into the word doc? This was the approach I was thinking of trying out. I would very much love to collaborate on a solution along these lines. Something customizable, a word Document template based reporting system. My timeframe on needing this solution is starting to look like the end of the week. How would you best like to work on this? via email? View message @ http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/RTF-documents-as-templates-tp322967p2237801.html To unsubscribe from Re: RTF documents as templates, click here. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/RTF-documents-as-templates-tp322967p2237897.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RTF documents as templates
*WordLib* supports many document features, from text fonts, sizes, and styles to highlights, hyperlinks, and bullet lists and even images, tables, and footnotes. Supported file formats are *MS Word 2007* (.docx, .docm, .xml), *MS Word 2003*(.xml), *OpenOffice* (.odt), and *MS Word 97-2003* (.doc, limited support). http://curryk.com/wordlib.html http://curryk.com/wordlib.html:) images and then some. It utilizes an HTML rendering of the formatting, so searching and replacing the data should be fine if we construct the templates correctly. I am going to tinker with this tomorrow afternoon and see what I can come up with. On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 6:11 PM, JosepM [via Runtime Revolution] ml-node+2237897-163429925-139...@n4.nabble.comml-node%2b2237897-163429925-139...@n4.nabble.com wrote: Hi Andrew, You guess that is posible use the doc template with some graphic or images inside the word and fill all the data respecting the images format? I don't know wordLib 1.3 Also I think that maybe we can found other non-propietary format to use..., but let's try As you wish, email is fine for me. Salut, Josep El 31/05/2010, a las 22:27, Andrew Kluthe [via Runtime Revolution] escribió: What about using wordLib 1.3 to import template documents into a field, pull the records you need from the database, do the calculations necessary and fill the data into the placeholders saved into the word doc? This was the approach I was thinking of trying out. I would very much love to collaborate on a solution along these lines. Something customizable, a word Document template based reporting system. My timeframe on needing this solution is starting to look like the end of the week. How would you best like to work on this? via email? -- View message @ http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/RTF-documents-as-templates-tp322967p2237801.html To unsubscribe from Re: RTF documents as templates, click here. -- View message @ http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/RTF-documents-as-templates-tp322967p2237897.html To unsubscribe from Re: RTF documents as templates, click herehttp://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/subscriptions/Unsubscribe.jtp?code=YW5kcmV3QHJqZGZhcm0uY29tfDIyMzc4MDF8MTMwNjMzOTU0Mg==. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/RTF-documents-as-templates-tp322967p2237974.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RTF documents as templates
Hi everyone, I need to use some word like docs like templates. Searching and replacing some words or sentences to generate a new document. Any idea or sample to how get the content of a word file and modify it? Thanks, Josep M -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/RTF-documents-as-templates-tf4712738.html#a13470913 Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
