Re: Bad grammar

2010-09-04 Thread René Micout
Is they ?
;-)
Bonne rentrée
René

Le 4 sept. 2010 à 08:54, Richmond a écrit :

 if fld fXXX and fld fZZZ is empty
 
 . . .  :)
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Re: Bad grammar

2010-09-04 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Richmond,

This is the same as:

if fld fXXX is true and fld fZZZ is empty...

Your syntax is valid.

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On 4 sep 2010, at 08:54, Richmond wrote:

 if fld fXXX and fld fZZZ is empty
 
 . . .  :)


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Re: Bad grammar

2010-09-04 Thread Richmond

On 09/04/2010 11:49 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:

Hi Richmond,

This is the same as:

if fld fXXX is true and fld fZZZ is empty...

Your syntax is valid.

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I know my syntax is valid; the script that that is embedded in (runs to 
about 2080 lines - a real 'horror') works


[ something that never ceases to surprise me ]

However, it is BAD English.



what I wanted to 'say' by

if fld fXXX and fld fZZZ is empty

was

if fld fXXX is empty and fld fZZZ is empty

and, indeed that is what I intended to type at 2 am last night, but 
Morpheus was hard

at work wrapping me in his coils, so it came out the way it did;

notwithstanding Morpheus, obviously the Lar of RunRev saved me . . . :)
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Re: Bad grammar

2010-09-04 Thread Mark Schonewille
Yes, it is bad English. Submit a feature request, asking for are :-)

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On 4 sep 2010, at 11:03, Richmond wrote:
 
 I know my syntax is valid; the script that that is embedded in (runs to about 
 2080 lines - a real 'horror') works
 
 [ something that never ceases to surprise me ]
 
 However, it is BAD English.
 
 
 
 what I wanted to 'say' by
 
 if fld fXXX and fld fZZZ is empty
 
 was
 
 if fld fXXX is empty and fld fZZZ is empty
 
 and, indeed that is what I intended to type at 2 am last night, but Morpheus 
 was hard
 at work wrapping me in his coils, so it came out the way it did;
 
 notwithstanding Morpheus, obviously the Lar of RunRev saved me . . . :)


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Re: Bad grammar

2010-09-04 Thread Richmond

On 09/04/2010 12:08 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:

Yes, it is bad English. Submit a feature request, asking for are :-)
   


To which the obvious reposte is: Ar, Ar, Ar! . . .  :)

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On 4 sep 2010, at 11:03, Richmond wrote:
   

I know my syntax is valid; the script that that is embedded in (runs to about 
2080 lines - a real 'horror') works

[ something that never ceases to surprise me ]

However, it is BAD English.



what I wanted to 'say' by

if fld fXXX and fld fZZZ is empty

was

if fld fXXX is empty and fld fZZZ is empty

and, indeed that is what I intended to type at 2 am last night, but Morpheus 
was hard
at work wrapping me in his coils, so it came out the way it did;

notwithstanding Morpheus, obviously the Lar of RunRev saved me . . . :)
 


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Re: Bad grammar

2010-09-04 Thread Thierry
 , Mark Schonewille wrote:
 
 if fld fXXX is true and fld fZZZ is empty...
 
 what I wanted to 'say' by
 
 if fld fXXX and fld fZZZ is empty
 
 was
 
 if fld fXXX is empty and fld fZZZ is empty


And what about this one ?

if ( fld fXXX  fld fZZZ ) is empty then ...

Regards,
Thierry

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Re: Bad grammar

2010-09-04 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Thierry,

Yes, that would do what Richmond wants, too.

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 And what about this one ?
 
 if ( fld fXXX  fld fZZZ ) is empty then ...
 
 Regards,
 Thierry

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Re: Bad grammar

2010-09-04 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond-

Saturday, September 4, 2010, 2:03:06 AM, you wrote:

 what I wanted to 'say' by

 if fld fXXX and fld fZZZ is empty

 was

 if fld fXXX is empty and fld fZZZ is empty

Methinks the bad here is bad logic rather than bad grammar. What you
typed was a partial logical statement (akin to using a contraction
instead of writing out full words) and then expected the compiler to
fill in the details and extrapolate. The compiler, being a fair-minded
device, expanded your statement to what it knew deep in its heart you
really meant: as Mark pointed out, that would be

if fld fXXX is true and fld fZZZ is empty

which is proper logic and proper grammar.

Although not the logic you intended. If indeed you had typed out
either of

if fld fXXX is empty and fld fZZZ is empty

or (as Thierry has cleverly pointed out)

if (fld fXXX  fld fZZZ) is empty

you would again have proper (and intended) logic and proper grammar.

...I'm stopping now before I start veering into the dangerous ground
of the syntax of statements like

if me is empty

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 mwie...@ahsoftware.net

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Re: Bad grammar

2010-09-04 Thread Richmond

On 09/04/2010 06:49 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:

Richmond-

Saturday, September 4, 2010, 2:03:06 AM, you wrote:

   

what I wanted to 'say' by
 
   

if fld fXXX and fld fZZZ is empty
 
   

was
 
   

if fld fXXX is empty and fld fZZZ is empty
 

Methinks the bad here is bad logic rather than bad grammar. What you
typed was a partial logical statement (akin to using a contraction
instead of writing out full words) and then expected the compiler to
fill in the details and extrapolate. The compiler, being a fair-minded
device, expanded your statement to what it knew deep in its heart you
really meant: as Mark pointed out, that would be

if fld fXXX is true and fld fZZZ is empty

which is proper logic and proper grammar.

Although not the logic you intended. If indeed you had typed out
either of

if fld fXXX is empty and fld fZZZ is empty

or (as Thierry has cleverly pointed out)

if (fld fXXX  fld fZZZ) is empty

you would again have proper (and intended) logic and proper grammar.

...I'm stopping now before I start veering into the dangerous ground
of the syntax of statements like

if me is empty

   


I did contextualise a bit:

but Morpheus was hard at work wrapping me in his coils, so it came out 
the way it did;


And having just spent 8 hours editing my way through about 50,000 lines 
of code (or, put another way,

25 times 2080 line, each version of which has subtle changes) I

th..ink..z..z..z  my 
s-y-n-t-a-x izzz


way off:

on mouseUp
  put Richmond into bed
end mouseUp


notwithstanding Morpheus, obviously the Lar of RunRev saved me . . . :)

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Re: Bad grammar

2010-09-04 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond-

function AmTired
   if me is sleepy then
  put me into bed
   end if
   return tomorrow
end AmTired

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