Re: If Monks CD-ROM - test download please

2010-01-09 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi,

I tried to download IMHM and noticed that the DropBox links are  
broken, but the other links still work.


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Op 4 jan 2010, om 23:59 heeft Brian Thomas het volgende geschreven:


Hello,


To Download for FREE the classic, Revolution-built Monks CD-ROM visit:

http://rivertext.com/


Please let me know, if you have any issues with the download or
installation, as I plan on sending Press Releases out early tomorrow
morning,


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Re: If Monks CD-ROM - test download please

2010-01-05 Thread Colin Holgate
Things are ok now. The folder needs to be copied to Applications, I may have 
run it straight from the DMG.


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Re: If Monks CD-ROM - test download please

2010-01-04 Thread Colin Holgate
Do you know that the launcher file is a Unix document, and not an application?


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Re: If Monks CD-ROM - test download please

2010-01-04 Thread Brian Thomas
Yes I know it is not an application, and there is a story attached to that
one Colin. But, it works, doesn't it?

Why?

Monks was more than an interactive presentation. There were 2 applications
-- a Journal and an e-book reader -- built-in, in addition to the
interactive presentation. Since we didn't want the user to have to have
enough memory to run 3 Revolution standalones at the same time (this was
planned out in last millennium) we put the Rev engine into one of the
standalone's -- so they would have to only have two standalones open at
most.

So, the Rev engine in the Journal runs the interactive presentation and the
journal application. If you open the Journal app you go straight into the
sophisticated Journaling application, if you open the document you go
straight into the Cloister and the interactive presentation.

*** Colin -- I remember fondly a few of the things you said to me when we
were building Monks like:

If Monks had Windows they'd jump out of them.

 It turned out that with Revolution Windows development was a piece of
cake. However, we were developing it at the same time that Revolution was
working out its bugs with the Mac platform and Steve Jobs was jerking that
platform around  every few month with a new version of OS X -- that changed
the underpinnings of the OS.

This is long, but, now I'm ready to tell the story. Just before the burning
of the CD's a new version of Revolution came out with something we needed,
but broke the perfectly sensible code we were using to launch Monks.

So, Sarah, from this Revlist saved the launch by writing for us an
Applescript that relied of our Monks creator code to launch Monks. And, I
thought, why throw away the old launcher, I think I'll just leave it on the
CD-ROM and call it the back-up launcher even though it stopped working.
Maybe someday it will work again...

And that, is really a nutty way to think. However, five years later, Snow
Leopard stop recognizing Creator Codes and Sarah's AppleScript stopped
working. Then I checked the Back-up launcher...

and it worked

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote:

 Do you know that the launcher file is a Unix document, and not an
 application?


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Re: If Monks CD-ROM - test download please

2010-01-04 Thread stephen barncard
Thanks for the download. I'd never seen MONKS before, although I knew of its
existence, being a Mac developer in the late 80s.

What hasn't been talked about is the excellent extra NEW material that Brian
added. Great photography and essay.
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Stephen Barncard
San Francisco
http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev


2010/1/4 Brian Thomas insidepoc...@gmail.com

 Yes I know it is not an application, and there is a story attached to that
 one Colin. But, it works, doesn't it?

 Why?

 Monks was more than an interactive presentation. There were 2 applications
 -- a Journal and an e-book reader -- built-in, in addition to the
 interactive presentation. Since we didn't want the user to have to have
 enough memory to run 3 Revolution standalones at the same time (this was
 planned out in last millennium) we put the Rev engine into one of the
 standalone's -- so they would have to only have two standalones open at
 most.

 So, the Rev engine in the Journal runs the interactive presentation and the
 journal application. If you open the Journal app you go straight into the
 sophisticated Journaling application, if you open the document you go
 straight into the Cloister and the interactive presentation.

 *** Colin -- I remember fondly a few of the things you said to me when we
 were building Monks like:

 If Monks had Windows they'd jump out of them.

  It turned out that with Revolution Windows development was a piece of
 cake. However, we were developing it at the same time that Revolution was
 working out its bugs with the Mac platform and Steve Jobs was jerking that
 platform around  every few month with a new version of OS X -- that changed
 the underpinnings of the OS.

 This is long, but, now I'm ready to tell the story. Just before the burning
 of the CD's a new version of Revolution came out with something we needed,
 but broke the perfectly sensible code we were using to launch Monks.

 So, Sarah, from this Revlist saved the launch by writing for us an
 Applescript that relied of our Monks creator code to launch Monks. And, I
 thought, why throw away the old launcher, I think I'll just leave it on the
 CD-ROM and call it the back-up launcher even though it stopped working.
 Maybe someday it will work again...

 And that, is really a nutty way to think. However, five years later, Snow
 Leopard stop recognizing Creator Codes and Sarah's AppleScript stopped
 working. Then I checked the Back-up launcher...

 and it worked

 On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote:

  Do you know that the launcher file is a Unix document, and not an
  application?
 
 
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Re: If Monks CD-ROM - test download please

2010-01-04 Thread Colin Holgate

On Jan 4, 2010, at 6:57 PM, Brian Thomas insidepoc...@gmail.com wrote:


is a story attached to that
one Colin. But, it works, doesn't it?



Well, double clicking on it brings up a dialog asking me which program  
to use. As it's a Unix document, should I use Terminal?



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Re: If Monks CD-ROM - test download please

2010-01-04 Thread Brian Thomas
Is anyone else having having trouble getting the OS X version to launch?

I just double-click on the new launcher in the If Monks had Macs folder
and it launches Monks everytime. Works from the doc, too.



On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote:

 On Jan 4, 2010, at 6:57 PM, Brian Thomas insidepoc...@gmail.com wrote:

  is a story attached to that
 one Colin. But, it works, doesn't it?


 Well, double clicking on it brings up a dialog asking me which program to
 use. As it's a Unix document, should I use Terminal?



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Re: If Monks CD-ROM - test download please

2010-01-04 Thread Petrides, M.D. Marian

Lauches OK for me.  Thanks for the download, Brian!

On Jan 4, 2010, at 7:33 PM, Brian Thomas wrote:

Is anyone else having having trouble getting the OS X version to  
launch?


I just double-click on the new launcher in the If Monks had Macs  
folder

and it launches Monks everytime. Works from the doc, too.



On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net  
wrote:


On Jan 4, 2010, at 6:57 PM, Brian Thomas insidepoc...@gmail.com  
wrote:


is a story attached to that

one Colin. But, it works, doesn't it?


Well, double clicking on it brings up a dialog asking me which  
program to

use. As it's a Unix document, should I use Terminal?



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