Re: Record Audio in Rev on Linux OS?

2010-04-23 Thread Peter Alcibiades

Invoking the shell command is the easy part.  First, you open a terminal and
verify that the command or script you want to use works properly from the
terminal.  For example, if you are going to use krecord you would open a
terminal and do

 krec

followed by whatever options you want.

(this seems to be the command which opens the app now, seems to me it used
to be krecord but still.)

Now you know that it works as expected in the shell, you can invoke it from
Rev:

 put shell(krec)   -- this will just open the application.

For instance, to execute the command you gave as a sample, from a button,
you would just do:

 on mouseUp
 put shell(arecord -d 10 -f cd -t wav -D copy foobar.wav)
 end mouseUp

This would then record the file in the user's home directory as foobar.wav.

You can execute any shell command like this.  

You can also pipe the output of one shell command to the input of another
one, in a shell command, as in

 ls | gedit

this will have the effect of first listing the current directory contents,
then sending the result to gedit, in which the input will be opened.  You
could use this to send a file, once recorded, to a player.  Or, if you have
lame installed, you could use it to convert the file to mp3 with
soundconverter.  

Finally, you might need to execute commands one after the other, which you
can also do.  To do this, you put your script into a file, for example,
myscript.sh, have the first line be a so called 'shebang', make it
executable, and put in your commands one after the other.  Lets say you
wanted the file in the above example to go to the desktop:

 #! /usr/bin/env bash
 cd Desktop
 arecord -d 10 -f cd -t wav -D copy foobar.wav

Now you would do, from your button, 

 put shell (myscript.sh) -- the file would have to be made
executable.

The shell is a quite fully featured, if rather antique, programming
language, with what you might regard as a huge collection of macros and
utilities for all kinds of purposes.  Most of the stuff you would expect,
flow control, branching, error reporting etc.   There are lots of guides to
it on the net, but if you're in an academic environment the simplest might
be to find someone in IT who has scripting experience and have them write
it.  If you want to learn it yourself, there is a nice book, full of worked
examples, by Glen Smith:  Introduction to Shell Scripting.  Might be a bit
basic for an experienced programmer.

It is antique, but its ideal for this sort of thing, because of the ability
to invoke stuff like krec.  On Rev, because of the limitations of Rev on
Linux at the moment, its a lifesaver.

Peter


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Re: Record Audio in Rev on Linux OS?

2010-04-23 Thread Peter Alcibiades

Sorry, deeply embarrassing, of course what you need to do is not

 ls | gedit

but first redirect the ls output to a file, and then redirect this file to
gedit, as in

 ls  test.txt | gedit

The  is a way of sending the output of the command to the file instead of
to the terminal.  Then the | operator sends it to gedit, which opens with
it.

At least, I hope it does!  Quick, someone who knows about this stuff join
in!

Peter
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RunRev and Linux Shell Scripting (...was Re: Record Audio in Rev on Linux OS?)

2010-04-23 Thread John Patten

Thanks Peter!!!

This was just the information I was looking for!

John Patten


Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 23:39:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Peter Alcibiades palcibiades-fi...@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Re: Record Audio in Rev on Linux OS?
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Invoking the shell command is the easy part.  First, you open a  
terminal and
verify that the command or script you want to use works properly from  
the

terminal.  For example, if you are going to use krecord you would open a
terminal and do

krec

followed by whatever options you want.

(this seems to be the command which opens the app now, seems to me it  
used

to be krecord but still.)

Now you know that it works as expected in the shell, you can invoke it  
from

Rev:

put shell(krec)   -- this will just open the application.

For instance, to execute the command you gave as a sample, from a  
button,

you would just do:

on mouseUp
put shell(arecord -d 10 -f cd -t wav -D copy foobar.wav)
end mouseUp

This would then record the file in the user's home directory as  
foobar.wav.


You can execute any shell command like this.

You can also pipe the output of one shell command to the input of  
another

one, in a shell command, as in

ls | gedit

this will have the effect of first listing the current directory  
contents,
then sending the result to gedit, in which the input will be opened.   
You
could use this to send a file, once recorded, to a player.  Or, if you  
have

lame installed, you could use it to convert the file to mp3 with
soundconverter.

Finally, you might need to execute commands one after the other, which  
you

can also do.  To do this, you put your script into a file, for example,
myscript.sh, have the first line be a so called 'shebang', make it
executable, and put in your commands one after the other.  Lets say you
wanted the file in the above example to go to the desktop:

#! /usr/bin/env bash
cd Desktop
arecord -d 10 -f cd -t wav -D copy foobar.wav

Now you would do, from your button,

put shell (myscript.sh) -- the file would have to be made
executable.

The shell is a quite fully featured, if rather antique, programming
language, with what you might regard as a huge collection of macros and
utilities for all kinds of purposes.  Most of the stuff you would  
expect,
flow control, branching, error reporting etc.   There are lots of  
guides to
it on the net, but if you're in an academic environment the simplest  
might
be to find someone in IT who has scripting experience and have them  
write
it.  If you want to learn it yourself, there is a nice book, full of  
worked
examples, by Glen Smith:  Introduction to Shell Scripting.  Might be a  
bit

basic for an experienced programmer.

It is antique, but its ideal for this sort of thing, because of the  
ability

to invoke stuff like krec.  On Rev, because of the limitations of Rev on
Linux at the moment, its a lifesaver.

Peter


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Re: Record Audio in Rev on Linux OS?

2010-04-22 Thread John Patten

Thanks for the suggestion Peter!

As for how to go about doing what you described in Linux, I'm at a loss.

I have no experience using Rev and Shell scripts in Linux. The reason  
why I am interested is that I working on a little utility that allows  
students to record an audio response and then ftp the resulting audio  
file to a server. This works fine on my Mac, and I presume it will on  
Windows too (though have not tested extensively yet).


We have recently begun using Netbooks running Ubuntu Remix with our  
students (about 600 of them currently). We do have Audacity on them  
for recording audio, among a whole collection of other great software  
tools.


I would like to be able to get my little utility to work on the  
Netbooks too. I have looked up krecord and hunted some discussion  
lists related to command line commands for this tool.


I don't see too much in the area of command line language for  
Audacity, so I'm guessing we will have to use krecord or ALSA. These  
laptops do have ALSA arecord and aplay and I do see an example in man  
for arecord:


arecord -d 10 -f cd -t wav -D copy foobar.wav

(I'm guessing in the example above, I would need to give the complete  
path when saving the foobar.wav file. Something like ~/home/student/ 
foobar.wav )


I have never done anything like this with Rev before and need some  
direction. I'm guessing that I'm going to need to create a function  
that will contain the shell script and then call it from a button when  
I want to record...? But I don't have a clue what it would look like???


Does someone have a simple example stack I can pick apart?

Thank you!

John Patten






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Dunno about Rev directly, but you can go out to shell, and then use  
the Linux
command line tools.  The easiest gui recording tool is krecord, but  
there

are lots of non-gui ones.  Use zenity to get a gui for them.  Then when
you've captured the file, go out to the shell again to play it.  Or  
maybe
this is what you were trying to avoid?  Most things that Rev cannot do  
can

be done in the shell.
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Record Audio in Rev on Linux OS?

2010-04-19 Thread John Patten

Hi All...

I think I know the answer, but want to make sure. Is is possible to  
record audio in a stack that is running on Linux (Ubuntu)?


Thank you!

John Patten
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Re: Record Audio in Rev on Linux OS?

2010-04-19 Thread Peter Alcibiades

Dunno about Rev directly, but you can go out to shell, and then use the Linux
command line tools.  The easiest gui recording tool is krecord, but there
are lots of non-gui ones.  Use zenity to get a gui for them.  Then when
you've captured the file, go out to the shell again to play it.  Or maybe
this is what you were trying to avoid?  Most things that Rev cannot do can
be done in the shell.
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Re: Record Audio in Rev on Linux OS?

2010-04-19 Thread Alejandro Tejada
On Mon Apr 19 15:45:13 CDT 2010
Peter Alcibiades wrote:

 Dunno about Rev directly, but you can go out to shell, and then use the Linux
 command line tools.  The easiest gui recording tool is krecord, but there
 are lots of non-gui ones.  Use zenity to get a gui for them.  Then when
 you've captured the file, go out to the shell again to play it.  Or maybe
 this is what you were trying to avoid?  Most things that Rev cannot do can
 be done in the shell.

In Windows, i use SoX (Sound eXchange):
http://sox.sourceforge.net/

This utility works great! :-)
But i am curious to know if, in Linux, Rev could
use and control command line utilities like SoX.

Some years ago, i created a GUI for the command line
utility Potrace and the only problem that i found was
the limitation in pixels of images imported into Rev:
http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=2429

Everything else, worked fine:
http://capellan2000.000space.com/Potrace_Interface1.jpg
http://capellan2000.000space.com/Potrace_Interface2.jpg
http://capellan2000.000space.com/Potrace_Interface3.jpg

Alejandro
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