Re: Typing foreign characters in RunRev

2005-02-20 Thread Dan Soneson

Frank Leahy wrote:

With the US keyboard selected I can type foreign characters in all
other apps, just not in RunRev.  Anyone have any ideas why this might
be?  (RunRev 2.2, Mac OS X 10.3.7)
Hi Frank,
This is a bug with Rev 2.2 and Panther. Things worked fine in Mac OS X 
10.2 but not in 10.3.
It is fixed in Rev 2.5.

Dan
Daniel B. Soneson
Director, Language Lab
Southern CT State University
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Re: Typing foreign characters in RunRev

2005-02-20 Thread Frank Leahy
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Hi Frank,
I just discovered something interesting while preparing to answer your
questions: If you set your keyboard to "U.S. Extended" (unicode), you
get very similar results to Apple Mail, except that, instead of the
umlaut being highlighted, it has a heavy underline. Otherwise, using
the "U.S.", "British" or "Australian" keyboards (via the Input tab of
"International" System Preferences), you can still type "ü" in a Rev
field (option-u, u); you just don't get any feedback until you type the
(second) "u".
Jonathan,
After a little further investigation, my problem is that I can't type 
foreign characters into my RunRev app's fields when I've got the US 
keyboard selected.  If I select the British keyboard or the US Extended 
keyboard, then I can type ümlauts to my heart's content in my RunRev 
app.  But not with the US keyboard.

With the US keyboard selected I can type foreign characters in all 
other apps, just not in RunRev.  Anyone have any ideas why this might 
be?  (RunRev 2.2, Mac OS X 10.3.7)

-- Frank
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Re: Typing foreign characters in RunRev

2005-02-19 Thread Jonathan Cooper
On Tuesday, February 15, 2005, at 01:52  AM, Frank Leahy wrote:
I was looking for something that would emulate the way that it's done 
in every piece of software except Rev -- hold down option key and type 
"u", see floating dots, type "u" and get ümlaut.

I'm curious what our German, French and Portuguese Revers do.. Can you 
type accents and umlauts into Rev fields?  What happens if you use a 
US keyboard instead of a German/French/Portuguese keyboard, can you 
still type them?
Hi Frank,
I just discovered something interesting while preparing to answer your 
questions: If you set your keyboard to "U.S. Extended" (unicode), you 
get very similar results to Apple Mail, except that, instead of the 
umlaut being highlighted, it has a heavy underline. Otherwise, using 
the "U.S.", "British" or "Australian" keyboards (via the Input tab of 
"International" System Preferences), you can still type "ü" in a Rev 
field (option-u, u); you just don't get any feedback until you type the 
(second) "u".

And a final question, does anyone know where the floating dots (or 
floating accent or floating tilda) characters are stored, and how to 
show them in a Rev field?
Rev doesn't "store" them, AFAIK; it's a system-wide thing. But in any 
app, you can show a "naked" umlaut by typing option-u, then space, a 
"naked" acute by typing option-e, then space, etc.

Also, BTW, Jeanne de Voto wrote:
you can get an accent character by itself by pressing the relevant key 
twice. (For example, to get an umlaut, press option-u option-u.)
This doesn't work for me. Only option-u, [space] .
HTH,
--
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Re: Typing foreign characters in RunRev

2005-02-19 Thread Till Bandi
here everything works as expected (with the swiss german and th  
US-keyboard). You just have to figure out the right keys.

Till
Am 14.02.2005 um 15:52 schrieb Frank Leahy:
Xavier,
Thanks, but I was looking for something that would emulate the way  
that it's done in every piece of software except Rev -- hold down  
option key and type "u", see floating dots, type "u" and get ümlaut.

I'm curious what our German, French and Portuguese Revers do.. Can you  
type accents and umlauts into Rev fields?  What happens if you use a  
US keyboard instead of a German/French/Portuguese keyboard, can you  
still type them?

And a final question, does anyone know where the floating dots (or  
floating accent or floating tilda) characters are stored, and how to  
show them in a Rev field?

Thanks,
-- Frank
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Na Frank,
That should be a nice and simple keydown card message
...
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Re-2: Typing foreign characters in RunRev (unicode !)

2005-02-15 Thread boehmisch
On Microsoft PCs you have to set up
system control (Systemsteuerung)
languages and regions (Regional- und Spracheigenschaften)
installing the languages you like
I am using hebrew und greek
therefore I had first to install the language tools for languages writing right 
to left (you need the OS CD-ROM).
In Runrev i can perfectly type hebrew from right to left within one word but it 
breaks the direction in the sentence.
I use winword for typing hebrew text and copy it into the runrev textfield.
Runrev is using perfect unicode support in HTMLtext and RTFtext of the 
textfield.Ø

But runrev breakes foreign languages in table mode of the field
because they use the # sign as delimiter for the table columns.
All foreign languages are coded using the # sign in HTML
==> foreign languages are immediately broken when used in a table text field.

No experience in linux or mac.

Regards, Franz
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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Xavier,

Thanks, but I was looking for something that would emulate the way that
it's done in every piece of software except Rev -- hold down option key
and type "u", see floating dots, type "u" and get ümlaut.

I'm curious what our German, French and Portuguese Revers do.. Can you
type accents and umlauts into Rev fields? What happens if you use a US
keyboard instead of a German/French/Portuguese keyboard, can you still
type them?

And a final question, does anyone know where the floating dots (or
floating accent or floating tilda) characters are stored, and how to
show them in a Rev field?

Thanks,
-- Frank

Web Photos Pro: Software for Photo Bloggers and Other Photo Power Users
See us on the web at http://www.webphotospro.com/

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Re: Typing foreign characters in RunRev

2005-02-14 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 2:52 PM + 2/14/05, Frank Leahy wrote:
Thanks, but I was looking for something that would emulate the way 
that it's done in every piece of software except Rev -- hold down 
option key and type "u", see floating dots, type "u" and get ümlaut.
I use Mac software all day and have never seen this. (I don't use 
Mail.app, though.) So I suspect it's a custom routine.

And a final question, does anyone know where the floating dots (or 
floating accent or floating tilda) characters are stored, and how to 
show them in a Rev field?
I don't remember the ASCII offhand, but you can get an accent 
character by itself by pressing the relevant key twice. (For example, 
to get an umlaut, press option-u option-u.)
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Re: Typing foreign characters in RunRev

2005-02-14 Thread Éric Chatonet
Hi Frank,
Le 14 févr. 05, à 18:00, Frank Leahy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
I'm curious what our German, French and Portuguese Revers do.. Can you
type accents and umlauts into Rev fields?  What happens if you use a US
keyboard instead of a German/French/Portuguese keyboard, can you still
type them?
The keyboards work differently according to the language and the keys 
are not the same in each language (I am telling about hardware).
When a language uses often accentuated vowels, umlauts or tilde, the 
corresponding keyboard offers the right keys without any combination.
You can get them too on any keyboard but you have to know how to get 
them and it's often a little tricky.
If you don't count unicode languages, you can find more than 30 
different "standard" keyboards...
For instance the first keys are "azerty" in French, "qwerz" in German 
and "qwerty" in English...
Imagine what happens for the other keys: "]" in english is  "+" in 
German, "$" in French and Italian, a key combination in Spanish and 
Portuguese (but not the same:  "`" and "´"), etc.
Then, if you are using Mac OS X, activate the languages you want in the 
international preferences panel, ask for displaying the corresponding 
menu into the menubar and open the keyboard utility : you will able to 
test all the keyboards you desire :-)
I never find such an utility in the Windows environment...

Amicalement,
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Re: Typing foreign characters in RunRev

2005-02-14 Thread xbury . cs
Well well.. Im not confronted with that problem on windows ;))

Surely there must be a 3 year old bugzilla in red waiting for votes on 
this case...

sorry I was useless...
Xavier

On 14.02.2005 15:52:25 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
>Xavier,
>
>Thanks, but I was looking for something that would emulate the way that
>it's done in every piece of software except Rev -- hold down option key
>and type "u", see floating dots, type "u" and get ümlaut.
>
>I'm curious what our German, French and Portuguese Revers do.. Can you
>type accents and umlauts into Rev fields?  What happens if you use a US
>keyboard instead of a German/French/Portuguese keyboard, can you still
>type them?
>
>And a final question, does anyone know where the floating dots (or
>floating accent or floating tilda) characters are stored, and how to
>show them in a Rev field?
>
>Thanks,
>-- Frank
>
>Web Photos Pro: Software for Photo Bloggers and Other Photo Power Users
>See us on the web at http://www.webphotospro.com/
>
>On Feb 14, 2005, at 2:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>wrote:
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>>
>> That should be a nice and simple keydown card message
>...
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Re: Typing foreign characters in RunRev

2005-02-14 Thread Frank Leahy
Xavier,
Thanks, but I was looking for something that would emulate the way that  
it's done in every piece of software except Rev -- hold down option key  
and type "u", see floating dots, type "u" and get ümlaut.

I'm curious what our German, French and Portuguese Revers do.. Can you  
type accents and umlauts into Rev fields?  What happens if you use a US  
keyboard instead of a German/French/Portuguese keyboard, can you still  
type them?

And a final question, does anyone know where the floating dots (or  
floating accent or floating tilda) characters are stored, and how to  
show them in a Rev field?

Thanks,
-- Frank
Web Photos Pro: Software for Photo Bloggers and Other Photo Power Users
See us on the web at http://www.webphotospro.com/
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Na Frank,
That should be a nice and simple keydown card message
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Re: Typing foreign characters in RunRev

2005-02-14 Thread Signe Marie Sanne
Frank Leahy skrev:
I seem to be unable to type foreign characters into any RunRev (2.2) 
field, so it looks like I'll have to handle it myself.

Here's what I want to do:
When I type an ümlaut in Apple Mail, i.e. "option-u" followed by "u", 
first it shows me that I'm in "umlaut mode" by giving showing floating 
dots above the (empty) character, and hiliting those dots with a yellow 
hiliter.  Then, when I type "u" or "o" or any other character that is 
umlaut-able, it hides the yellow hiliting and inserts the correct 
character.

This is a nice interface for knowing that you're in "foreign character 
typing mode".  Has anyone written a similar routine for RunRev?  I'm 
about to write one, but if someone has some working code already and 
wanted to share it, I'd be most appreciative.
If you just want to type umlaut's and accents in a field, remember that you 
have to press the umlaut/accent key first (without anything appearing on the 
screen). Then you press the letter, and both appears at the same time.
Hope this was what you were looking for.
Signe Marie Sanne
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Re: Typing foreign characters in RunRev

2005-02-14 Thread xbury . cs
Na Frank,

That should be a nice and simple keydown card message

on keydown k
  if the hilite of btn "typeGerman" then
 get chartranlate[k]
if it is empty then pass keydown
else
  put it into the selection
end if
  else pass keydown
end keydown

something like that... (not tested, from the hairloosing top of my head)
;)

This way you dont need to type extra stuff but you do need to click the
button on and off to choose what you type... Maybe you could also
use the option or control key to switch modes...

Another approach is to typre something like /u and later do a replace
for each /a or /u into the letters you want...

Hope that helps

cheers
Xavier

On 14.02.2005 14:54:21 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
>I seem to be unable to type foreign characters into any RunRev (2.2)
>field, so it looks like I'll have to handle it myself.
>
>Here's what I want to do:
>
>When I type an ümlaut in Apple Mail, i.e. "option-u" followed by "u",
>first it shows me that I'm in "umlaut mode" by giving showing floating
>dots above the (empty) character, and hiliting those dots with a yellow
>hiliter.  Then, when I type "u" or "o" or any other character that is
>umlaut-able, it hides the yellow hiliting and inserts the correct
>character.
>
>This is a nice interface for knowing that you're in "foreign character
>typing mode".  Has anyone written a similar routine for RunRev?  I'm
>about to write one, but if someone has some working code already and
>wanted to share it, I'd be most appreciative.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>-- Frank
>
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Typing foreign characters in RunRev

2005-02-14 Thread Frank Leahy
I seem to be unable to type foreign characters into any RunRev (2.2) 
field, so it looks like I'll have to handle it myself.

Here's what I want to do:
When I type an ümlaut in Apple Mail, i.e. "option-u" followed by "u", 
first it shows me that I'm in "umlaut mode" by giving showing floating 
dots above the (empty) character, and hiliting those dots with a yellow 
hiliter.  Then, when I type "u" or "o" or any other character that is 
umlaut-able, it hides the yellow hiliting and inserts the correct 
character.

This is a nice interface for knowing that you're in "foreign character 
typing mode".  Has anyone written a similar routine for RunRev?  I'm 
about to write one, but if someone has some working code already and 
wanted to share it, I'd be most appreciative.

Thanks in advance,
-- Frank
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