Re: VideoGrabber: dropping last second of sound

2010-10-25 Thread Ben Rubinstein

On 22/10/2010 18:53, Colin Holgate wrote:

I have no idea what VideoGrabber is, but the symptoms suggest that some frames 
were skipped, and yet the stored frames were kept at a regular frame rate. 
Would be interesting to video grab a running clock. Then you could test my 
theory.


VideoGrabber is an external on Mac and Windows for er... grabbing video and 
audio.  See Video category on Dictionary.


I don't think frames were skipped, the sync is reasonable, it's just that the 
sound runs out before the video does.


We did a lot of tests with a running clock before we started - but it had a 
very quiet tick and we weren't paying attention!   More to the point, this is 
very intermittent - we've seen a handful out of about 2,000 clips.  Mind you, 
we haven't necessary reviewed every clip to the end.


Ben

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Re: VideoGrabber: dropping last second of sound

2010-10-25 Thread Ben Rubinstein

Thanks Stephen.

Your suggestion is indeed what we expect we'll have to implement - but before 
I report this in RQCC, and before I roll out that fix, I'd be interested to 
know if anyone else has encountered this.


Your response suggests that there is a known issue with the VG not flushing 
the audio buffer on close, is that correct?  Is there an RQCC number for this? 
 (I've looked through without spotting anything, but I might have missed it.) 
 If this is known, is there lore about the factors - why it's intermittent? 
You mentioned on close, is that on revStopRecordingVideo, or on 
revCloseVideoGrabber - if I could stop the recording on time, but let the VG 
keep rolling longer, that would provide a neater solution.


TIA,

Ben


On 22/10/2010 20:52, stephen barncard wrote:

yes, I'm guessing that it's not flushing the audio buffer on close. Another
coding error that's been there for ages.

I'd suggest that your stop sequence include some kind of delay before
actually stopping the recording, so the talent stops speaking earlier than
the actual time it stops, and it should all work out. *Send in time* would
work well for this...

Colin, check out videograbber, it's fairly useful for some limited video
chores. It's inside every installation (in the mac package
Contents:Tools:Resources:Sample Projects: folder as Video Capture.rev)  --
they actually fixed most of it in the last updates.

On 22 October 2010 10:44, Ben Rubinsteinbenr...@cogapp.com  wrote:


We've used LiveCode to create an unattended system in a public environment
which is recording several hundred short video clips a day.  The clips are
variable length - controlled by the person who is recording a message -
typically 10-30 second each.

In a small number of cases, the last second of audio is lost.  The actual
sound track is shorter than the video track; and in the very small sample of
cases I've so far being able to inspect (2 clips) it was almost exactly 1
second shorter.

Has anyone else encountered this or a similar problem?

TIA,

Ben

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VideoGrabber: dropping last second of sound

2010-10-22 Thread Ben Rubinstein
We've used LiveCode to create an unattended system in a public environment 
which is recording several hundred short video clips a day.  The clips are 
variable length - controlled by the person who is recording a message - 
typically 10-30 second each.


In a small number of cases, the last second of audio is lost.  The actual 
sound track is shorter than the video track; and in the very small sample of 
cases I've so far being able to inspect (2 clips) it was almost exactly 1 
second shorter.


Has anyone else encountered this or a similar problem?

TIA,

Ben
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Re: VideoGrabber: dropping last second of sound

2010-10-22 Thread Colin Holgate
I have no idea what VideoGrabber is, but the symptoms suggest that some frames 
were skipped, and yet the stored frames were kept at a regular frame rate. 
Would be interesting to video grab a running clock. Then you could test my 
theory.



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Re: VideoGrabber: dropping last second of sound

2010-10-22 Thread stephen barncard
yes, I'm guessing that it's not flushing the audio buffer on close. Another
coding error that's been there for ages.

I'd suggest that your stop sequence include some kind of delay before
actually stopping the recording, so the talent stops speaking earlier than
the actual time it stops, and it should all work out. *Send in time* would
work well for this...

Colin, check out videograbber, it's fairly useful for some limited video
chores. It's inside every installation (in the mac package
Contents:Tools:Resources:Sample Projects: folder as Video Capture.rev)  --
they actually fixed most of it in the last updates.

On 22 October 2010 10:44, Ben Rubinstein benr...@cogapp.com wrote:

 We've used LiveCode to create an unattended system in a public environment
 which is recording several hundred short video clips a day.  The clips are
 variable length - controlled by the person who is recording a message -
 typically 10-30 second each.

 In a small number of cases, the last second of audio is lost.  The actual
 sound track is shorter than the video track; and in the very small sample of
 cases I've so far being able to inspect (2 clips) it was almost exactly 1
 second shorter.

 Has anyone else encountered this or a similar problem?

 TIA,

 Ben
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