WDEF identifiers
Has anyone ever successfully used a WDEF identifier? Is there a list of available identifiers somewhere or do we still have to manually look at the app resource and then set it in RunRev? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: WDEF identifiers
Simon- Saturday, June 12, 2010, 6:42:31 AM, you wrote: Has anyone ever successfully used a WDEF identifier? Is there a list of available identifiers somewhere or do we still have to manually look at the app resource and then set it in RunRev? Boy, that takes me back a ways... what are you trying to do? -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: WDEF identifiers
I haven't heard the term WDEF in a while...I don't think runrev windows are based on that. MacOS X doesn't use Resource Forks anymore... Runrev can read and write resources though, as long as Apple doesn't disallow them entirely in the file system - it's a legacy thing. As long as the forked files stays in the Mac world, resources might be useful, like adding extra data to a JPG or sound file. But I would question if Apple will support it in the future, and the modified files might not be happy on other systems. Personally, I loved the resource concept - like custom properties, images and sounds we imbed today in Rev - but it made a mess of incompatibility which impression lingers today: aww it's a mac file, no wonder it's messed up. Search a well-used PC drive for .DS_store files, which always showed up in a directory of mac files on a PC. There must be billions of files today with that name. File conversion systems, not knowing what else to do with the resource forks would split them with the data forks, leaving the data in the file and moving whatever data was in the resource forks of all the files into the single .DS_store garbage heap. I don't know if any of the data in there is recoverable. I just had to shut down spotlight. I did a search for .DS_Store and stopped it because there were so many on my machine and adding them to the list so quickly that I was worried it might actually top it out. If you search for them, use File Visibility as a criteria (which will have to be added by using other from the kind popup. I'm guessing that MacOS is tolerating the 'dual system' approach but that resource fork laden files might appear to have the resources exist in the file but also 'virtualized' to appear in the MacOSX system properly. Here's the best poop on .DS_Store http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.DS_Store On 12 June 2010 06:42, Simon Lord sl...@karbonized.com wrote: Has anyone ever successfully used a WDEF identifier? Is there a list of available identifiers somewhere or do we still have to manually look at the app resource and then set it in RunRev? -- - Stephen Barncard San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: WDEF identifiers
I was trying to get my stack to use the same resource as itunes. When I tried doing this in the past my stack would just disappear. It's not critical, but I'm a little bummed about how few options there are for stack decorations. Ideally I want: - Metal decorations - *without* the thick border (Shao's external takes core of that) - *keep* the bottom rounded corners (which Metal has, but which Shao's external removes). There also doesn't appear to be any options for controlling the thickness or styling of the title bar. Setting the decorations to none makes all the corners square and resizing extremely choppy (even with the tips from J). Also, from what I've read, with decorations set to none it also removes the ability to slide a stack from under the main stack. I just thought there'd be more support for basic windowing, so I'm looking at everything. Judging from the replies to this post I gather WDEF is not an option. Sigh. On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Simon- Saturday, June 12, 2010, 6:42:31 AM, you wrote: Has anyone ever successfully used a WDEF identifier? Is there a list of available identifiers somewhere or do we still have to manually look at the app resource and then set it in RunRev? Boy, that takes me back a ways... what are you trying to do? -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: WDEF identifiers
I was trying to get my stack to use the same resource as itunes. If I am not mistaken, iTunes uses a custom window.. - Metal decorations - *without* the thick border (Shao's external takes core of that) - *keep* the bottom rounded corners (which Metal has, but which Shao's external removes). That is all there is in the system.. There also doesn't appear to be any options for controlling the thickness or styling of the title bar. What do you mean? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: WDEF identifiers
I read that API several times—now that you point it out I see it there. Guess my brain just didn't want to believe it. This is fantastic! There also doesn't appear to be any options for controlling the thickness or styling of the title bar. What do you mean? http://www.marelina.com/miscellaneous/fatbar.jpg It would have been nice to be able to create a titlebar like most iWork/iLife apps and place buttons on them etc. Right now I'm *faking* it. If your external does this too then 'm getting drunk tonight. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: WDEF identifiers
Ok, tried it and it definitely doesn't work—maybe we are not talking about the same thing here. If I run this: ssSetWindowTexturedSquareCorners updateWindow, true I get the metal skin without rounded corners. This is good. But the rounded corners on the bottom are square. The reason I cannot pass false to ssSetWindowTexturedSquareCorners is because the 4px border around the stack comes back. So yes, the rounded corners appear on the bottom but so does the 4px border which I don't want. If there is a way to have rounded corners on the bottom with only a single pixel border then I'd like to know how. And the default decorations doesn't count because it places a 1px black line under the titlebar which I also don't want. I'm not asking for anything special, I just want my stack to look like other OS X apps and so far this is not possible. Only been at this a week so maybe someone out there has the answer but so far I don't think I'll get what I need. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: WDEF identifiers
Sorry the external does not do it :-( but you are looking for this http://shaosean.tk/images/ssToolbar.png ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: WDEF identifiers
If there is a way to have rounded corners on the bottom with only a single pixel border then I'd like to know how. Custom window.. that is how iTunes does it.. If you look at Safari, it is square corners as well.. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: WDEF identifiers
Yes. I can be a beta tester! ;) Definitely will buy that from you when you are ready. On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Shao Sean shaos...@wehostmacs.com wrote: Sorry the external does not do it :-( but you are looking for this http://shaosean.tk/images/ssToolbar.png ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: WDEF identifiers
Well I guess I'll just wait to buy your next external which supports this... ;) On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Shao Sean shaos...@wehostmacs.com wrote: If there is a way to have rounded corners on the bottom with only a single pixel border then I'd like to know how. Custom window.. that is how iTunes does it.. If you look at Safari, it is square corners as well.. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
