player visibility bug?

2005-06-03 Thread Jon
I am writing a complex media player application.  I decided to hide the 
Player entirely, and use my own buttons instead.  When I make the Player 
invisible, everything stops working, as if I had deleted the Player.  Is 
this what the rest of you would have expected?


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Jon

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Re: player visibility bug?

2005-06-03 Thread Eric Chatonet

Hi Jon,

No, it's not a bug.
As a player is designed to play movies, then it stops when it is hidden.
It's a normal behaviour: there is nothing to watch :-)
So, instead of making your player invisible, let it visible but put  
it out of the card window area: set the bottomRight of player  
MyPlayer to -1,-1.
Note that you can put any object out of range of the user's action by  
placing it out of the card window without having to set its visible  
to false.

It's a very old handy trick :-)

Best regards from Paris,

Eric Chatonet.

Le 3 juin 05 à 14:23, Jon a écrit :

I am writing a complex media player application.  I decided to hide  
the Player entirely, and use my own buttons instead.  When I make  
the Player invisible, everything stops working, as if I had deleted  
the Player.  Is this what the rest of you would have expected?




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Re: player visibility bug?

2005-06-03 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 6/3/05 7:38 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote:


Hi Jon,

No, it's not a bug.
As a player is designed to play movies, then it stops when it is hidden.


Actually, I think this only happens on Windows. On Macs, hidden players 
continue to play. So it is maybe a sort-of, kind-of, partial bug. The 
workaround is easy though, and I usually just set the location of the 
player offscreen for all platforms.


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Re: player visibility bug?

2005-06-03 Thread Eric Chatonet

Hi Jacque,

As I do it usually, I verified with a QT movie before answering (Mac  
OS 10.4.1 - Rev build 77):


on mouseUp
  start player 1
  wait 1 second with messages
  hide player 1 -- then stops
end mouseUp

on mouseUp
  start player 1
  wait 1 second with messages
  set the botRight of player 1 to -1,-1 -- does not stop (of  
course and fortunately :-)

end mouseUp

Best regards from Paris,

Eric Chatonet.

Le 3 juin 05 à 18:13, J. Landman Gay a écrit :


On 6/3/05 7:38 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote:


Hi Jon,
No, it's not a bug.
As a player is designed to play movies, then it stops when it is  
hidden.




Actually, I think this only happens on Windows. On Macs, hidden  
players continue to play. So it is maybe a sort-of, kind-of,  
partial bug. The workaround is easy though, and I usually just set  
the location of the player offscreen for all platforms.



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Re: player visibility bug?

2005-06-03 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 6/3/05 11:25 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote:

 Hi Jacque,

 As I do it usually, I verified with a QT movie before answering (Mac  OS
 10.4.1 - Rev build 77):

Okay, I believe you. :)

I had a commercial app written in an older version of Revolution and the 
Mac player worked while hidden but the Windows player did not. So maybe 
they changed things to be more consistent now.


Or, maybe the Mac player worked because it was always hidden. I did not 
show it and hide it from a script. Or maybe it worked because I wasn't 
playing a QT movie, I was playing sound files in a player. I haven't had 
time to re-test this though.


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Re: player visibility bug?

2005-06-03 Thread Eric Chatonet

Hi Jacque,

I did not want to hurt you.
Sometimes, my bad english makes things seemingly a little bit hard...
And I found it when I read again my mail...
Do you want to excuse me?

On the other hand, I dug the question by testing if there was a  
difference when the file did not have any video track: that's should   
have shown how much the engine is precise :-)

Infortunately not.

Best regards from Paris,

Eric Chatonet.

Le 3 juin 05 à 19:17, J. Landman Gay a écrit :


On 6/3/05 11:25 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote:

 Hi Jacque,

 As I do it usually, I verified with a QT movie before answering  
(Mac  OS

 10.4.1 - Rev build 77):

Okay, I believe you. :)

I had a commercial app written in an older version of Revolution  
and the Mac player worked while hidden but the Windows player did  
not. So maybe they changed things to be more consistent now.


Or, maybe the Mac player worked because it was always hidden. I did  
not show it and hide it from a script. Or maybe it worked because I  
wasn't playing a QT movie, I was playing sound files in a player. I  
haven't had time to re-test this though.



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Re: player visibility bug?

2005-06-03 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 6/3/05 12:42 PM, Eric Chatonet wrote:

 Hi Jacque,

 I did not want to hurt you.

Oh, not at all. No offense taken in the least.

 Sometimes, my bad english makes things seemingly a little bit hard...

Your English is excellent, and much better than my French. I don't know 
any French. :)


 And I found it when I read again my mail...
 Do you want to excuse me?

There is nothing to excuse. You haven't done anything wrong at all.


 On the other hand, I dug the question by testing if there was a
 difference when the file did not have any video track: that's should
 have shown how much the engine is precise :-)
 Infortunately not.

I just did a test too. I set a player to the filepath of an mp3 file and 
hid the player. In Revolution, starting the player shows it again! I 
couldn't make the player start and remain hidden.


Then I did the same thing in MetaCard. Here, I can keep the player 
hidden and it does play. These tests are all on Mac OS X.


So it looks like the difference is in the IDE. Rev does not allow me to 
start a hidden player. Possibly this is to prevent the Windows bug from 
occuring. MetaCard does play correctly with the player hidden.


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