rev-web, revbrowser, on-rev, Linux, help!
Sarah, your new demo applets all seem to work, and very nice too, I was thinking of some in the past that required the plugin to be installed in the browser, and of course there wasn't one for Linux. So basically it goes like this, doesn't it? We want to write on-rev material, we can, we use a text editor, then we load it onto the Rev run on-rev server, and it works fine in Linux or anything else, in any web browser. Presumably there's a handbook with a guide for how to do this someplace. We don't have the on-rev desktop client which might make life easer, but we can do it. What we need for this is a subscription to the on-Rev hosting service. I'm not thinking of doing this at the moment, so this not going to be available. If Rev eventually releases the server package, then it would be in principle possible to do this on any server where it was loaded, but we are not there yet. RevBrowser would, if we had it, display ordinary web pages hosted anyplace in a stack. We can't do this because it does not exist for Linux. The browser plugins, if we had them, but we don't, would basically let us run stacks compiled for this purpose in a browser window. They could be hosted anyplace, not just the Rev server. We don't have this plugin for Linux, so we can't do it. But we can compile such stacks, and people running Windows and OSX will be able to run them, as long as they install the browser plug in. It doesn't really appeal to me, to write apps that my own OS will not run, but I do understand that it is possible. Then there is Rodeo. If we could get Rodeo, it would let us write pages in a special client, is that right? And then we could compile them to run in any Web browser and host them on any server? But right now we cannot get that either, because it is only for iPhone OS. Its a bit confusing, I hope this is right. Its like, you are on holiday, you go for a long invigorating swim, and come back hungry to the breakfast buffet, only to realize that the only thing on it you are allowed to eat is some low fat cottage cheese, and maybe one cup of unsweetened black coffee. And the cottage cheese is, well, not exactly fresh Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: rev-web, revbrowser, on-rev, Linux, help!
So basically it goes like this, doesn't it? We want to write on-rev material, we can, we use a text editor, then we load it onto the Rev run on-rev server, and it works fine in Linux or anything else, in any web browser. Presumably there's a handbook with a guide for how to do this someplace. We don't have the on-rev desktop client which might make life easer, but we can do it. Yes. What we need for this is a subscription to the on-Rev hosting service. I'm not thinking of doing this at the moment, so this not going to be available. If Rev eventually releases the server package, then it would be in principle possible to do this on any server where it was loaded, but we are not there yet. Correct - the revServer is supposed to be available for installation on other servers sometime this year, I believe. RevBrowser would, if we had it, display ordinary web pages hosted anyplace in a stack. We can't do this because it does not exist for Linux. Yes. The browser plugins, if we had them, but we don't, would basically let us run stacks compiled for this purpose in a browser window. They could be hosted anyplace, not just the Rev server. We don't have this plugin for Linux, so we can't do it. But we can compile such stacks, and people running Windows and OSX will be able to run them, as long as they install the browser plug in. It doesn't really appeal to me, to write apps that my own OS will not run, but I do understand that it is possible. Yes, although it is browser-specific. I can't get it to work in Chrome on my Mac, although it works fine in Safari. Then there is Rodeo. If we could get Rodeo, it would let us write pages in a special client, is that right? And then we could compile them to run in any Web browser and host them on any server? But right now we cannot get that either, because it is only for iPhone OS. The idea with Rodeo is to give people an easier way to create web apps, targeted at the iPad. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: rev-web, revbrowser, on-rev, Linux, help!
Peter, if you want to put up a web page on the on-rev server to give it a try I'd be happy to give you a folder to fool around with. I'm using about a millionth of my alotted space at the moment. Part of what Peter Alcibiades wrote: So basically it goes like this, doesn't it? We want to write on-rev material, we can, we use a text editor, then we load it onto the Rev run on-rev server, and it works fine in Linux or anything else, in any web browser. --- -- Make sure you save the file as text before uploading. -- I use Filezilla to upload my files. The built-in cPanel screwed up the line endings for me. --- Presumably there's a handbook with a guide for how to do this someplace. --- -- The handbook is named Sarah. --- We don't have the on-rev desktop client which might make life easer, but we can do it. --- -- Would probably make life more difficult. --- What we need for this is a subscription to the on-Rev hosting service. I'm not thinking of doing this at the moment, so this not going to be available. --- -- If you do want to get a subscription you might be able to get one at half price through Lynn Fredericks' company. I don't know if that offer is still in effect. You might have to buy something to get the discount. --- If Rev eventually releases the server package, then it would be in principle possible to do this on any server where it was loaded, but we are not there yet. --- ** MOST IMPORTANT ** By installing the RunRev 3.5 engine on any Apache server you can get just about the same functionality as you would get on the on-rev server. Using the engine instead of the irev files is a little less convenient, but the end result will be the same. One really handy aspect of the on-rev server is that you can use the shell commands combined with the irev files. For example, you can use imageMagick to dick around with your images before you send them out. So if you want to use RunRev in place of PHP you can do it on any Apache server that will let you install the engine. (Many people are doing that). --- Hope that helps a little, Mike ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: rev-web, revbrowser, on-rev, Linux, help!
By installing the RunRev 3.5 engine on any Apache server you can get just about the same functionality as you would get on the on-rev server Thanks, I had not appreciated that. Could certainly be significant. Peter -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/rev-web-revbrowser-on-rev-Linux-help-tp2164289p2164774.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: rev-web, revbrowser, on-rev, Linux, help!
Peter Alcibiades wrote: By installing the RunRev 3.5 engine on any Apache server you can get just about the same functionality as you would get on the on-rev server Thanks, I had not appreciated that. Could certainly be significant. Peter, you really should take up that offer for an iRev testing playground. You will be blown away by it. It's true that you can accomplish most of the same things using old-style CGIs, and I used to do that, but it's so much more difficult than the iRev way. And the iRev way has a cool factor you can't ignore. Just as an example, here's a chunk out of the middle of one of my web pages. It cycles through images every time the page refreshes: ?rev put any line of url (file:cgiphotos/cgiphotos.txt) into tFlower ? img src=cgiphotos/?rev put item 1 of tFlower ? width=320 height=240 border=1 / p [page content HTML text removed] /p p iThe flowers yoursquo;re seeing are all from my gardens over the years. This one is ?rev put item 2 of tFlower ./i ? The main thing to note here is how you can put Rev syntax right inside of the HTML content and it will be interpreted before the page is sent back to the browser. Glance through the above and find the ?rev ... ? instances and you'll see. I know you've been unhappy about the state of the Linux engine, but this is one thing you really can take advantage of. And it's very, very cool. BTW, Rev allows includes too, and my web site uses those on every page to show the header, footer, and sidebar. Some of those have iRev scripts in them too. To see the above in action: http://jacque.on-rev.com/codebits/flowerscgi.irev I hope you'll try it, and even better, let us know what you think. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
