Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries

2016-09-15 Thread Joseph Tech
pable
>> tombstone ratio for repository.
>>
>> Please check for high droppable tombstone ratio for your repo.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 8:11 PM, Romain Hardouin 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes dclocal_read_repair_chance will reduce the cross-DC traffic and
>> latency, so you can swap the values ( https://issues.apache.org/ji
>> ra/browse/CASSANDRA-7320
>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-7320> ). I guess the
>> sstable_size_in_mb was set to 50 because back in the day (C* 1.0) the
>> default size was way too small: 5 MB. So maybe someone in your company
>> tried "10 * the default" i.e. 50 MB. Now the default is 160 MB. I don't say
>> to change the value but just keep in mind that you're using a small value
>> here, it could help you someday.
>>
>> Regarding the cells, the histograms shows an *estimation* of the min,
>> p50, ..., p99, max of cells based on SSTables metadata. On your screenshot,
>> the Max is 4768. So you have a partition key with ~ 4768 cells. The p99 is
>> 1109, so 99% of your partition keys have less than (or equal to) 1109
>> cells.
>> You can see these data of a given sstable with the tool sstablemetadata.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Romain
>>
>>
>>
>> Le Lundi 5 septembre 2016 15h17, Joseph Tech  a
>> écrit :
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Romain . We will try to enable the DEBUG logging (assuming it
>> won't clog the logs much) . Regarding the table configs, read_repair_chance
>> must be carried over from older versions - mostly defaults. I think 
>> sstable_size_in_mb
>> was set to limit the max SSTable size, though i am not sure on the reason
>> for the 50 MB value.
>>
>> Does setting dclocal_read_repair_chance help in reducing cross-DC
>> traffic (haven't looked into this parameter, just going by the name).
>>
>> By the cell count definition : is it incremented based on the number of
>> writes for a given name(key?) and value. This table is heavy on reads and
>> writes. If so, the value should be much higher?
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Romain Hardouin 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Try to put org.apache.cassandra.db. ConsistencyLevel at DEBUG level, it
>> could help to find a regular pattern. By the way, I see that you have set a
>> global read repair chance:
>> read_repair_chance = 0.1
>> And not the local read repair:
>> dclocal_read_repair_chance = 0.0
>> Is there any reason to do that or is it just the old (pre 2.0.9) default
>> configuration?
>>
>> The cell count is the number of triplets: (name, value, timestamp)
>>
>> Also, I see that you have set sstable_size_in_mb at 50 MB. What is the
>> rational behind this? (Yes I'm curious :-) ). Anyway your "SSTables per
>> read" are good.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Romain
>>
>> Le Lundi 5 septembre 2016 13h32, Joseph Tech  a
>> écrit :
>>
>>
>> Hi Ryan,
>>
>> Attached are the cfhistograms run within few mins of each other. On the
>> surface, don't see anything which indicates too much skewing (assuming
>> skewing ==keys spread across many SSTables) . Please confirm. Related to
>> this, what does the "cell count" metric indicate ; didn't find a clear
>> explanation in the documents.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Joseph
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Ryan Svihla  wrote:
>>
>> Have you looked at cfhistograms/tablehistograms your data maybe just
>> skewed (most likely explanation is probably the correct one here)
>>
>> Regard,
>>
>> Ryan Svihla
>>
>> _
>> From: Joseph Tech 
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 11:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries
>> To: 
>>
>>
>>
>> Patrick,
>>
>> The desc table is below (only col names changed) :
>>
>> CREATE TABLE db.tbl (
>> id1 text,
>> id2 text,
>> id3 text,
>> id4 text,
>> f1 text,
>> f2 map,
>> f3 map,
>> created timestamp,
>> updated timestamp,
>> PRIMARY KEY (id1, id2, id3, id4)
>> ) WITH CLUSTERING ORDER BY (id2 ASC, id3 ASC, id4 ASC)
>> AND bloom_filter_fp_chance = 0.01
>> AND caching = '{"keys":"ALL", "rows_per_partition":"NONE"}'
>> AND comment = ''
>> AND compaction = {'sstable_size_in_mb': '50', 'class':
&g

Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries

2016-09-07 Thread Romain Hardouin
le size, though i am not sure on the reason for 
the 50 MB value.
Does setting dclocal_read_repair_chance help in reducing cross-DC traffic 
(haven't looked into this parameter, just going by the name).

By the cell count definition : is it incremented based on the number of writes 
for a given name(key?) and value. This table is heavy on reads and writes. If 
so, the value should be much higher?
On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Romain Hardouin  wrote:

Hi,
Try to put org.apache.cassandra.db. ConsistencyLevel at DEBUG level, it could 
help to find a regular pattern. By the way, I see that you have set a global 
read repair chance:    read_repair_chance = 0.1And not the local read repair:   
 dclocal_read_repair_chance = 0.0 Is there any reason to do that or is it just 
the old (pre 2.0.9) default configuration? 
The cell count is the number of triplets: (name, value, timestamp)
Also, I see that you have set sstable_size_in_mb at 50 MB. What is the rational 
behind this? (Yes I'm curious :-) ). Anyway your "SSTables per read" are good.
Best,
Romain
Le Lundi 5 septembre 2016 13h32, Joseph Tech  a 
écrit :
 

 Hi Ryan,
Attached are the cfhistograms run within few mins of each other. On the 
surface, don't see anything which indicates too much skewing (assuming skewing 
==keys spread across many SSTables) . Please confirm. Related to this, what 
does the "cell count" metric indicate ; didn't find a clear explanation in the 
documents.
Thanks,Joseph

On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Ryan Svihla  wrote:

 Have you looked at cfhistograms/tablehistograms your data maybe just skewed 
(most likely explanation is probably the correct one here)

Regard,
Ryan Svihla
 _________________
From: Joseph Tech 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries
To: 


Patrick,
The desc table is below (only col names changed) : 
CREATE TABLE db.tbl (    id1 text,    id2 text,    id3 text,    id4 text,    f1 
text,    f2 map,    f3 map,    created timestamp,    
updated timestamp,    PRIMARY KEY (id1, id2, id3, id4)) WITH CLUSTERING ORDER 
BY (id2 ASC, id3 ASC, id4 ASC)    AND bloom_filter_fp_chance = 0.01    AND 
caching = '{"keys":"ALL", "rows_per_partition":"NONE"}'    AND comment = ''    
AND compaction = {'sstable_size_in_mb': '50', 'class': 
'org.apache.cassandra.db. compaction. LeveledCompactionStrategy'}    AND 
compression = {'sstable_compression': 'org.apache.cassandra.io. 
compress.LZ4Compressor'}    AND dclocal_read_repair_chance = 0.0    AND 
default_time_to_live = 0    AND gc_grace_seconds = 864000    AND 
max_index_interval = 2048    AND memtable_flush_period_in_ms = 0    AND 
min_index_interval = 128    AND read_repair_chance = 0.1    AND 
speculative_retry = '99.0PERCENTILE';
and the query is select * from tbl where id1=? and id2=? and id3=? and id4=?
The timeouts happen within ~2s to ~5s, while the successful calls have avg of 
8ms and p99 of 15s. These times are seen from app side, the actual query times 
would be slightly lower. 
Is there a way to capture traces only when queries take longer than a specified 
duration? . We can't enable tracing in production given the volume of traffic. 
We see that the same query which timed out works fine later, so not sure if the 
trace of a successful run would help.
Thanks,Joseph

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 8:05 PM, Patrick McFadin  wrote:

If you are getting a timeout on one table, then a mismatch of RF and node count 
doesn't seem as likely. 
Time to look at your query. You said it was a 'select * from table where key=?' 
type query. I would next use the trace facility in cqlsh to investigate 
further. That's a good way to find hard to find issues. You should be looking 
for clear ledge where you go from single digit ms to 4 or 5 digit ms times. 
The other place to look is your data model for that table if you want to post 
the output from a desc table.
Patrick


On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Joseph Tech  wrote:

On further analysis, this issue happens only on 1 table in the KS which has the 
max reads. 
@Atul, I will look at system health, but didnt see anything standing out from 
GC logs. (using JDK 1.8_92 with G1GC). 
@Patrick , could you please elaborate the "mismatch on node count + RF" part.
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 5:35 PM, Atul Saroha  wrote:

There could be many reasons for this if it is intermittent. CPU usage + I/O 
wait status. As read are I/O intensive, your IOPS requirement should be met 
that time load. Heap issue if CPU is busy for GC only. Network health could be 
the reason. So better to look system health during that time when it comes.

-- -- 
-- ---
Atul Saroha
Lead Software Engineer
M: +91 84

Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries

2016-09-07 Thread Joseph Tech
t; cells.
> You can see these data of a given sstable with the tool sstablemetadata.
>
> Best,
>
> Romain
>
>
>
> Le Lundi 5 septembre 2016 15h17, Joseph Tech  a
> écrit :
>
>
> Thanks, Romain . We will try to enable the DEBUG logging (assuming it
> won't clog the logs much) . Regarding the table configs, read_repair_chance
> must be carried over from older versions - mostly defaults. I think 
> sstable_size_in_mb
> was set to limit the max SSTable size, though i am not sure on the reason
> for the 50 MB value.
>
> Does setting dclocal_read_repair_chance help in reducing cross-DC traffic
> (haven't looked into this parameter, just going by the name).
>
> By the cell count definition : is it incremented based on the number of
> writes for a given name(key?) and value. This table is heavy on reads and
> writes. If so, the value should be much higher?
>
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Romain Hardouin 
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Try to put org.apache.cassandra.db. ConsistencyLevel at DEBUG level, it
> could help to find a regular pattern. By the way, I see that you have set a
> global read repair chance:
> read_repair_chance = 0.1
> And not the local read repair:
> dclocal_read_repair_chance = 0.0
> Is there any reason to do that or is it just the old (pre 2.0.9) default
> configuration?
>
> The cell count is the number of triplets: (name, value, timestamp)
>
> Also, I see that you have set sstable_size_in_mb at 50 MB. What is the
> rational behind this? (Yes I'm curious :-) ). Anyway your "SSTables per
> read" are good.
>
> Best,
>
> Romain
>
> Le Lundi 5 septembre 2016 13h32, Joseph Tech  a
> écrit :
>
>
> Hi Ryan,
>
> Attached are the cfhistograms run within few mins of each other. On the
> surface, don't see anything which indicates too much skewing (assuming
> skewing ==keys spread across many SSTables) . Please confirm. Related to
> this, what does the "cell count" metric indicate ; didn't find a clear
> explanation in the documents.
>
> Thanks,
> Joseph
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Ryan Svihla  wrote:
>
> Have you looked at cfhistograms/tablehistograms your data maybe just
> skewed (most likely explanation is probably the correct one here)
>
> Regard,
>
> Ryan Svihla
>
> _
> From: Joseph Tech 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 11:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries
> To: 
>
>
>
> Patrick,
>
> The desc table is below (only col names changed) :
>
> CREATE TABLE db.tbl (
> id1 text,
> id2 text,
> id3 text,
> id4 text,
> f1 text,
> f2 map,
> f3 map,
> created timestamp,
> updated timestamp,
> PRIMARY KEY (id1, id2, id3, id4)
> ) WITH CLUSTERING ORDER BY (id2 ASC, id3 ASC, id4 ASC)
> AND bloom_filter_fp_chance = 0.01
> AND caching = '{"keys":"ALL", "rows_per_partition":"NONE"}'
> AND comment = ''
> AND compaction = {'sstable_size_in_mb': '50', 'class':
> 'org.apache.cassandra.db. compaction. LeveledCompactionStrategy'}
> AND compression = {'sstable_compression': 'org.apache.cassandra.io.
> compress.LZ4Compressor'}
> AND dclocal_read_repair_chance = 0.0
> AND default_time_to_live = 0
> AND gc_grace_seconds = 864000
> AND max_index_interval = 2048
> AND memtable_flush_period_in_ms = 0
> AND min_index_interval = 128
> AND read_repair_chance = 0.1
> AND speculative_retry = '99.0PERCENTILE';
>
> and the query is select * from tbl where id1=? and id2=? and id3=? and
> id4=?
>
> The timeouts happen within ~2s to ~5s, while the successful calls have avg
> of 8ms and p99 of 15s. These times are seen from app side, the actual query
> times would be slightly lower.
>
> Is there a way to capture traces only when queries take longer than a
> specified duration? . We can't enable tracing in production given the
> volume of traffic. We see that the same query which timed out works fine
> later, so not sure if the trace of a successful run would help.
>
> Thanks,
> Joseph
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 8:05 PM, Patrick McFadin 
> wrote:
>
> If you are getting a timeout on one table, then a mismatch of RF and node
> count doesn't seem as likely.
>
> Time to look at your query. You said it was a 'select * from table where
> key=?' type query. I would next use the trace facility in cqlsh to
> in

Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries

2016-09-06 Thread Romain Hardouin
e local read repair:   
 dclocal_read_repair_chance = 0.0 Is there any reason to do that or is it just 
the old (pre 2.0.9) default configuration? 
The cell count is the number of triplets: (name, value, timestamp)
Also, I see that you have set sstable_size_in_mb at 50 MB. What is the rational 
behind this? (Yes I'm curious :-) ). Anyway your "SSTables per read" are good.
Best,
Romain
Le Lundi 5 septembre 2016 13h32, Joseph Tech  a 
écrit :
 

 Hi Ryan,
Attached are the cfhistograms run within few mins of each other. On the 
surface, don't see anything which indicates too much skewing (assuming skewing 
==keys spread across many SSTables) . Please confirm. Related to this, what 
does the "cell count" metric indicate ; didn't find a clear explanation in the 
documents.
Thanks,Joseph

On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Ryan Svihla  wrote:

 Have you looked at cfhistograms/tablehistograms your data maybe just skewed 
(most likely explanation is probably the correct one here)

Regard,
Ryan Svihla
 _________________
From: Joseph Tech 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries
To: 


Patrick,
The desc table is below (only col names changed) : 
CREATE TABLE db.tbl (    id1 text,    id2 text,    id3 text,    id4 text,    f1 
text,    f2 map,    f3 map,    created timestamp,    
updated timestamp,    PRIMARY KEY (id1, id2, id3, id4)) WITH CLUSTERING ORDER 
BY (id2 ASC, id3 ASC, id4 ASC)    AND bloom_filter_fp_chance = 0.01    AND 
caching = '{"keys":"ALL", "rows_per_partition":"NONE"}'    AND comment = ''    
AND compaction = {'sstable_size_in_mb': '50', 'class': 
'org.apache.cassandra.db. compaction. LeveledCompactionStrategy'}    AND 
compression = {'sstable_compression': 'org.apache.cassandra.io. 
compress.LZ4Compressor'}    AND dclocal_read_repair_chance = 0.0    AND 
default_time_to_live = 0    AND gc_grace_seconds = 864000    AND 
max_index_interval = 2048    AND memtable_flush_period_in_ms = 0    AND 
min_index_interval = 128    AND read_repair_chance = 0.1    AND 
speculative_retry = '99.0PERCENTILE';
and the query is select * from tbl where id1=? and id2=? and id3=? and id4=?
The timeouts happen within ~2s to ~5s, while the successful calls have avg of 
8ms and p99 of 15s. These times are seen from app side, the actual query times 
would be slightly lower. 
Is there a way to capture traces only when queries take longer than a specified 
duration? . We can't enable tracing in production given the volume of traffic. 
We see that the same query which timed out works fine later, so not sure if the 
trace of a successful run would help.
Thanks,Joseph

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 8:05 PM, Patrick McFadin  wrote:

If you are getting a timeout on one table, then a mismatch of RF and node count 
doesn't seem as likely. 
Time to look at your query. You said it was a 'select * from table where key=?' 
type query. I would next use the trace facility in cqlsh to investigate 
further. That's a good way to find hard to find issues. You should be looking 
for clear ledge where you go from single digit ms to 4 or 5 digit ms times. 
The other place to look is your data model for that table if you want to post 
the output from a desc table.
Patrick


On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Joseph Tech  wrote:

On further analysis, this issue happens only on 1 table in the KS which has the 
max reads. 
@Atul, I will look at system health, but didnt see anything standing out from 
GC logs. (using JDK 1.8_92 with G1GC). 
@Patrick , could you please elaborate the "mismatch on node count + RF" part.
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 5:35 PM, Atul Saroha  wrote:

There could be many reasons for this if it is intermittent. CPU usage + I/O 
wait status. As read are I/O intensive, your IOPS requirement should be met 
that time load. Heap issue if CPU is busy for GC only. Network health could be 
the reason. So better to look system health during that time when it comes.

-- -- 
-- ---
Atul Saroha
Lead Software Engineer
M: +91 8447784271 T: +91 124-415-6069 EXT: 12369
Plot # 362, ASF Centre - Tower A, Udyog Vihar,
 Phase -4, Sector 18, Gurgaon, Haryana 122016, INDIA
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Joseph Tech  wrote:

Hi Patrick,
The nodetool status shows all nodes up and normal now. From OpsCenter "Event 
Log" , there are some nodes reported as being down/up etc. during the timeframe 
of timeout, but these are Search workload nodes from the remote (non-local) DC. 
The RF is 3 and there are 9 nodes per DC.
Thanks,Joseph
On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Patrick McFadin  wrote:

You aren't achieving quorum on your reads as the error is explains. That means 
you either have s

Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries

2016-09-05 Thread Joseph Tech
Attached are the sstablemeta outputs from 2 SSTables of size 28 MB and 52
MB (out2). The records are inserted with different TTLs based on their
nature ; test records with 1 day, typeA records with 6 months, typeB
records with 1 year etc. There are also explicit DELETEs from this table,
though it's much lower than the rate of inserts.

I am not sure how to interpret this output, or if it's the right SSTables
that were picked. Please advise. Is there a way to get the sstables
corresponding to the keys that timed out, though they are accessible later.

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 10:58 PM, Anshu Vajpayee 
wrote:

> We have seen read time out issue in cassandra due to high droppable
> tombstone ratio for repository.
>
> Please check for high droppable tombstone ratio for your repo.
>
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 8:11 PM, Romain Hardouin 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes dclocal_read_repair_chance will reduce the cross-DC traffic and
>> latency, so you can swap the values ( https://issues.apache.org/ji
>> ra/browse/CASSANDRA-7320 ). I guess the sstable_size_in_mb was set to 50
>> because back in the day (C* 1.0) the default size was way too small: 5 MB.
>> So maybe someone in your company tried "10 * the default" i.e. 50 MB. Now
>> the default is 160 MB. I don't say to change the value but just keep in
>> mind that you're using a small value here, it could help you someday.
>>
>> Regarding the cells, the histograms shows an *estimation* of the min,
>> p50, ..., p99, max of cells based on SSTables metadata. On your screenshot,
>> the Max is 4768. So you have a partition key with ~ 4768 cells. The p99 is
>> 1109, so 99% of your partition keys have less than (or equal to) 1109
>> cells.
>> You can see these data of a given sstable with the tool sstablemetadata.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Romain
>>
>>
>>
>> Le Lundi 5 septembre 2016 15h17, Joseph Tech  a
>> écrit :
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Romain . We will try to enable the DEBUG logging (assuming it
>> won't clog the logs much) . Regarding the table configs, read_repair_chance
>> must be carried over from older versions - mostly defaults. I think 
>> sstable_size_in_mb
>> was set to limit the max SSTable size, though i am not sure on the reason
>> for the 50 MB value.
>>
>> Does setting dclocal_read_repair_chance help in reducing cross-DC
>> traffic (haven't looked into this parameter, just going by the name).
>>
>> By the cell count definition : is it incremented based on the number of
>> writes for a given name(key?) and value. This table is heavy on reads and
>> writes. If so, the value should be much higher?
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Romain Hardouin 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Try to put org.apache.cassandra.db. ConsistencyLevel at DEBUG level, it
>> could help to find a regular pattern. By the way, I see that you have set a
>> global read repair chance:
>> read_repair_chance = 0.1
>> And not the local read repair:
>> dclocal_read_repair_chance = 0.0
>> Is there any reason to do that or is it just the old (pre 2.0.9) default
>> configuration?
>>
>> The cell count is the number of triplets: (name, value, timestamp)
>>
>> Also, I see that you have set sstable_size_in_mb at 50 MB. What is the
>> rational behind this? (Yes I'm curious :-) ). Anyway your "SSTables per
>> read" are good.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Romain
>>
>> Le Lundi 5 septembre 2016 13h32, Joseph Tech  a
>> écrit :
>>
>>
>> Hi Ryan,
>>
>> Attached are the cfhistograms run within few mins of each other. On the
>> surface, don't see anything which indicates too much skewing (assuming
>> skewing ==keys spread across many SSTables) . Please confirm. Related to
>> this, what does the "cell count" metric indicate ; didn't find a clear
>> explanation in the documents.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Joseph
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Ryan Svihla  wrote:
>>
>> Have you looked at cfhistograms/tablehistograms your data maybe just
>> skewed (most likely explanation is probably the correct one here)
>>
>> Regard,
>>
>> Ryan Svihla
>>
>> _
>> From: Joseph Tech 
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 11:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries
>> To: 
>>
>>
>>
>> Patrick,
>>
>> The desc table is below (only col names changed) :
>>
>> CREATE TABLE db.tbl (
>> id1 text,
>> id2 text,
>&g

Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries

2016-09-05 Thread Anshu Vajpayee
We have seen read time out issue in cassandra due to high droppable
tombstone ratio for repository.

Please check for high droppable tombstone ratio for your repo.

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 8:11 PM, Romain Hardouin  wrote:

> Yes dclocal_read_repair_chance will reduce the cross-DC traffic and
> latency, so you can swap the values ( https://issues.apache.org/
> jira/browse/CASSANDRA-7320 ). I guess the sstable_size_in_mb was set to
> 50 because back in the day (C* 1.0) the default size was way too small: 5
> MB. So maybe someone in your company tried "10 * the default" i.e. 50 MB.
> Now the default is 160 MB. I don't say to change the value but just keep in
> mind that you're using a small value here, it could help you someday.
>
> Regarding the cells, the histograms shows an *estimation* of the min, p50,
> ..., p99, max of cells based on SSTables metadata. On your screenshot, the
> Max is 4768. So you have a partition key with ~ 4768 cells. The p99 is
> 1109, so 99% of your partition keys have less than (or equal to) 1109
> cells.
> You can see these data of a given sstable with the tool sstablemetadata.
>
> Best,
>
> Romain
>
>
>
> Le Lundi 5 septembre 2016 15h17, Joseph Tech  a
> écrit :
>
>
> Thanks, Romain . We will try to enable the DEBUG logging (assuming it
> won't clog the logs much) . Regarding the table configs, read_repair_chance
> must be carried over from older versions - mostly defaults. I think 
> sstable_size_in_mb
> was set to limit the max SSTable size, though i am not sure on the reason
> for the 50 MB value.
>
> Does setting dclocal_read_repair_chance help in reducing cross-DC traffic
> (haven't looked into this parameter, just going by the name).
>
> By the cell count definition : is it incremented based on the number of
> writes for a given name(key?) and value. This table is heavy on reads and
> writes. If so, the value should be much higher?
>
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Romain Hardouin 
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Try to put org.apache.cassandra.db. ConsistencyLevel at DEBUG level, it
> could help to find a regular pattern. By the way, I see that you have set a
> global read repair chance:
> read_repair_chance = 0.1
> And not the local read repair:
> dclocal_read_repair_chance = 0.0
> Is there any reason to do that or is it just the old (pre 2.0.9) default
> configuration?
>
> The cell count is the number of triplets: (name, value, timestamp)
>
> Also, I see that you have set sstable_size_in_mb at 50 MB. What is the
> rational behind this? (Yes I'm curious :-) ). Anyway your "SSTables per
> read" are good.
>
> Best,
>
> Romain
>
> Le Lundi 5 septembre 2016 13h32, Joseph Tech  a
> écrit :
>
>
> Hi Ryan,
>
> Attached are the cfhistograms run within few mins of each other. On the
> surface, don't see anything which indicates too much skewing (assuming
> skewing ==keys spread across many SSTables) . Please confirm. Related to
> this, what does the "cell count" metric indicate ; didn't find a clear
> explanation in the documents.
>
> Thanks,
> Joseph
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Ryan Svihla  wrote:
>
> Have you looked at cfhistograms/tablehistograms your data maybe just
> skewed (most likely explanation is probably the correct one here)
>
> Regard,
>
> Ryan Svihla
>
> _
> From: Joseph Tech 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 11:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries
> To: 
>
>
>
> Patrick,
>
> The desc table is below (only col names changed) :
>
> CREATE TABLE db.tbl (
> id1 text,
> id2 text,
> id3 text,
> id4 text,
> f1 text,
> f2 map,
> f3 map,
> created timestamp,
> updated timestamp,
> PRIMARY KEY (id1, id2, id3, id4)
> ) WITH CLUSTERING ORDER BY (id2 ASC, id3 ASC, id4 ASC)
> AND bloom_filter_fp_chance = 0.01
> AND caching = '{"keys":"ALL", "rows_per_partition":"NONE"}'
> AND comment = ''
> AND compaction = {'sstable_size_in_mb': '50', 'class':
> 'org.apache.cassandra.db. compaction. LeveledCompactionStrategy'}
> AND compression = {'sstable_compression': 'org.apache.cassandra.io.
> compress.LZ4Compressor'}
> AND dclocal_read_repair_chance = 0.0
> AND default_time_to_live = 0
> AND gc_grace_seconds = 864000
> AND max_index_interval = 2048
> AND memtable_flush_period_in_ms = 0
> AND min_index_interval = 128
> AND read_repair_chance = 0.1
> AND speculative_retry = '99.0

Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries

2016-09-05 Thread Romain Hardouin
Yes dclocal_read_repair_chance will reduce the cross-DC traffic and latency, so 
you can swap the values ( https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-7320 
). I guess the sstable_size_in_mb was set to 50 because back in the day (C* 
1.0) the default size was way too small: 5 MB. So maybe someone in your company 
tried "10 * the default" i.e. 50 MB. Now the default is 160 MB. I don't say to 
change the value but just keep in mind that you're using a small value here, it 
could help you someday.
Regarding the cells, the histograms shows an *estimation* of the min, p50, ..., 
p99, max of cells based on SSTables metadata. On your screenshot, the Max is 
4768. So you have a partition key with ~ 4768 cells. The p99 is 1109, so 99% of 
your partition keys have less than (or equal to) 1109 cells. You can see these 
data of a given sstable with the tool sstablemetadata.
Best,
Romain
 

Le Lundi 5 septembre 2016 15h17, Joseph Tech  a 
écrit :
 

 Thanks, Romain . We will try to enable the DEBUG logging (assuming it won't 
clog the logs much) . Regarding the table configs, read_repair_chance must be 
carried over from older versions - mostly defaults. I think sstable_size_in_mb 
was set to limit the max SSTable size, though i am not sure on the reason for 
the 50 MB value.
Does setting dclocal_read_repair_chance help in reducing cross-DC traffic 
(haven't looked into this parameter, just going by the name).

By the cell count definition : is it incremented based on the number of writes 
for a given name(key?) and value. This table is heavy on reads and writes. If 
so, the value should be much higher?
On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Romain Hardouin  wrote:

Hi,
Try to put org.apache.cassandra.db. ConsistencyLevel at DEBUG level, it could 
help to find a regular pattern. By the way, I see that you have set a global 
read repair chance:    read_repair_chance = 0.1And not the local read repair:   
 dclocal_read_repair_chance = 0.0 Is there any reason to do that or is it just 
the old (pre 2.0.9) default configuration? 
The cell count is the number of triplets: (name, value, timestamp)
Also, I see that you have set sstable_size_in_mb at 50 MB. What is the rational 
behind this? (Yes I'm curious :-) ). Anyway your "SSTables per read" are good.
Best,
Romain
Le Lundi 5 septembre 2016 13h32, Joseph Tech  a 
écrit :
 

 Hi Ryan,
Attached are the cfhistograms run within few mins of each other. On the 
surface, don't see anything which indicates too much skewing (assuming skewing 
==keys spread across many SSTables) . Please confirm. Related to this, what 
does the "cell count" metric indicate ; didn't find a clear explanation in the 
documents.
Thanks,Joseph

On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Ryan Svihla  wrote:

 Have you looked at cfhistograms/tablehistograms your data maybe just skewed 
(most likely explanation is probably the correct one here)

Regard,
Ryan Svihla
 _
From: Joseph Tech 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries
To: 


Patrick,
The desc table is below (only col names changed) : 
CREATE TABLE db.tbl (    id1 text,    id2 text,    id3 text,    id4 text,    f1 
text,    f2 map,    f3 map,    created timestamp,    
updated timestamp,    PRIMARY KEY (id1, id2, id3, id4)) WITH CLUSTERING ORDER 
BY (id2 ASC, id3 ASC, id4 ASC)    AND bloom_filter_fp_chance = 0.01    AND 
caching = '{"keys":"ALL", "rows_per_partition":"NONE"}'    AND comment = ''    
AND compaction = {'sstable_size_in_mb': '50', 'class': 
'org.apache.cassandra.db. compaction. LeveledCompactionStrategy'}    AND 
compression = {'sstable_compression': 'org.apache.cassandra.io. 
compress.LZ4Compressor'}    AND dclocal_read_repair_chance = 0.0    AND 
default_time_to_live = 0    AND gc_grace_seconds = 864000    AND 
max_index_interval = 2048    AND memtable_flush_period_in_ms = 0    AND 
min_index_interval = 128    AND read_repair_chance = 0.1    AND 
speculative_retry = '99.0PERCENTILE';
and the query is select * from tbl where id1=? and id2=? and id3=? and id4=?
The timeouts happen within ~2s to ~5s, while the successful calls have avg of 
8ms and p99 of 15s. These times are seen from app side, the actual query times 
would be slightly lower. 
Is there a way to capture traces only when queries take longer than a specified 
duration? . We can't enable tracing in production given the volume of traffic. 
We see that the same query which timed out works fine later, so not sure if the 
trace of a successful run would help.
Thanks,Joseph

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 8:05 PM, Patrick McFadin  wrote:

If you are getting a timeout on one table, then a mismatch of RF and node count 
doesn't seem as likely. 
Time to look at your query. You said it was a 'select * from ta

Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries

2016-09-05 Thread Joseph Tech
Thanks, Romain . We will try to enable the DEBUG logging (assuming it won't
clog the logs much) . Regarding the table configs, read_repair_chance must
be carried over from older versions - mostly defaults. I think
sstable_size_in_mb
was set to limit the max SSTable size, though i am not sure on the reason
for the 50 MB value.

Does setting dclocal_read_repair_chance help in reducing cross-DC traffic
(haven't looked into this parameter, just going by the name).

By the cell count definition : is it incremented based on the number of
writes for a given name(key?) and value. This table is heavy on reads and
writes. If so, the value should be much higher?

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Romain Hardouin  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Try to put org.apache.cassandra.db.ConsistencyLevel at DEBUG level, it
> could help to find a regular pattern. By the way, I see that you have set a
> global read repair chance:
> read_repair_chance = 0.1
> And not the local read repair:
> dclocal_read_repair_chance = 0.0
> Is there any reason to do that or is it just the old (pre 2.0.9) default
> configuration?
>
> The cell count is the number of triplets: (name, value, timestamp)
>
> Also, I see that you have set sstable_size_in_mb at 50 MB. What is the
> rational behind this? (Yes I'm curious :-) ). Anyway your "SSTables per
> read" are good.
>
> Best,
>
> Romain
>
> Le Lundi 5 septembre 2016 13h32, Joseph Tech  a
> écrit :
>
>
> Hi Ryan,
>
> Attached are the cfhistograms run within few mins of each other. On the
> surface, don't see anything which indicates too much skewing (assuming
> skewing ==keys spread across many SSTables) . Please confirm. Related to
> this, what does the "cell count" metric indicate ; didn't find a clear
> explanation in the documents.
>
> Thanks,
> Joseph
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Ryan Svihla  wrote:
>
> Have you looked at cfhistograms/tablehistograms your data maybe just
> skewed (most likely explanation is probably the correct one here)
>
> Regard,
>
> Ryan Svihla
>
> _
> From: Joseph Tech 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 11:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries
> To: 
>
>
>
> Patrick,
>
> The desc table is below (only col names changed) :
>
> CREATE TABLE db.tbl (
> id1 text,
> id2 text,
> id3 text,
> id4 text,
> f1 text,
> f2 map,
> f3 map,
> created timestamp,
> updated timestamp,
> PRIMARY KEY (id1, id2, id3, id4)
> ) WITH CLUSTERING ORDER BY (id2 ASC, id3 ASC, id4 ASC)
> AND bloom_filter_fp_chance = 0.01
> AND caching = '{"keys":"ALL", "rows_per_partition":"NONE"}'
> AND comment = ''
> AND compaction = {'sstable_size_in_mb': '50', 'class':
> 'org.apache.cassandra.db. compaction. LeveledCompactionStrategy'}
> AND compression = {'sstable_compression': 'org.apache.cassandra.io.
> compress.LZ4Compressor'}
> AND dclocal_read_repair_chance = 0.0
> AND default_time_to_live = 0
> AND gc_grace_seconds = 864000
> AND max_index_interval = 2048
> AND memtable_flush_period_in_ms = 0
> AND min_index_interval = 128
> AND read_repair_chance = 0.1
> AND speculative_retry = '99.0PERCENTILE';
>
> and the query is select * from tbl where id1=? and id2=? and id3=? and
> id4=?
>
> The timeouts happen within ~2s to ~5s, while the successful calls have avg
> of 8ms and p99 of 15s. These times are seen from app side, the actual query
> times would be slightly lower.
>
> Is there a way to capture traces only when queries take longer than a
> specified duration? . We can't enable tracing in production given the
> volume of traffic. We see that the same query which timed out works fine
> later, so not sure if the trace of a successful run would help.
>
> Thanks,
> Joseph
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 8:05 PM, Patrick McFadin 
> wrote:
>
> If you are getting a timeout on one table, then a mismatch of RF and node
> count doesn't seem as likely.
>
> Time to look at your query. You said it was a 'select * from table where
> key=?' type query. I would next use the trace facility in cqlsh to
> investigate further. That's a good way to find hard to find issues. You
> should be looking for clear ledge where you go from single digit ms to 4 or
> 5 digit ms times.
>
> The other place to look is your data model for that table if you want to
> post the output from a desc table.
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:

Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries

2016-09-05 Thread Romain Hardouin
Hi,
Try to put org.apache.cassandra.db.ConsistencyLevel at DEBUG level, it could 
help to find a regular pattern. By the way, I see that you have set a global 
read repair chance:    read_repair_chance = 0.1And not the local read repair:   
 dclocal_read_repair_chance = 0.0 Is there any reason to do that or is it just 
the old (pre 2.0.9) default configuration? 
The cell count is the number of triplets: (name, value, timestamp)
Also, I see that you have set sstable_size_in_mb at 50 MB. What is the rational 
behind this? (Yes I'm curious :-) ). Anyway your "SSTables per read" are good.
Best,
Romain
Le Lundi 5 septembre 2016 13h32, Joseph Tech  a 
écrit :
 

 Hi Ryan,
Attached are the cfhistograms run within few mins of each other. On the 
surface, don't see anything which indicates too much skewing (assuming skewing 
==keys spread across many SSTables) . Please confirm. Related to this, what 
does the "cell count" metric indicate ; didn't find a clear explanation in the 
documents.
Thanks,Joseph

On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Ryan Svihla  wrote:

 Have you looked at cfhistograms/tablehistograms your data maybe just skewed 
(most likely explanation is probably the correct one here)

Regard,
Ryan Svihla
 _
From: Joseph Tech 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries
To: 


Patrick,
The desc table is below (only col names changed) : 
CREATE TABLE db.tbl (    id1 text,    id2 text,    id3 text,    id4 text,    f1 
text,    f2 map,    f3 map,    created timestamp,    
updated timestamp,    PRIMARY KEY (id1, id2, id3, id4)) WITH CLUSTERING ORDER 
BY (id2 ASC, id3 ASC, id4 ASC)    AND bloom_filter_fp_chance = 0.01    AND 
caching = '{"keys":"ALL", "rows_per_partition":"NONE"}'    AND comment = ''    
AND compaction = {'sstable_size_in_mb': '50', 'class': 
'org.apache.cassandra.db. compaction. LeveledCompactionStrategy'}    AND 
compression = {'sstable_compression': 'org.apache.cassandra.io. 
compress.LZ4Compressor'}    AND dclocal_read_repair_chance = 0.0    AND 
default_time_to_live = 0    AND gc_grace_seconds = 864000    AND 
max_index_interval = 2048    AND memtable_flush_period_in_ms = 0    AND 
min_index_interval = 128    AND read_repair_chance = 0.1    AND 
speculative_retry = '99.0PERCENTILE';
and the query is select * from tbl where id1=? and id2=? and id3=? and id4=?
The timeouts happen within ~2s to ~5s, while the successful calls have avg of 
8ms and p99 of 15s. These times are seen from app side, the actual query times 
would be slightly lower. 
Is there a way to capture traces only when queries take longer than a specified 
duration? . We can't enable tracing in production given the volume of traffic. 
We see that the same query which timed out works fine later, so not sure if the 
trace of a successful run would help.
Thanks,Joseph

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 8:05 PM, Patrick McFadin  wrote:

If you are getting a timeout on one table, then a mismatch of RF and node count 
doesn't seem as likely. 
Time to look at your query. You said it was a 'select * from table where key=?' 
type query. I would next use the trace facility in cqlsh to investigate 
further. That's a good way to find hard to find issues. You should be looking 
for clear ledge where you go from single digit ms to 4 or 5 digit ms times. 
The other place to look is your data model for that table if you want to post 
the output from a desc table.
Patrick


On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Joseph Tech  wrote:

On further analysis, this issue happens only on 1 table in the KS which has the 
max reads. 
@Atul, I will look at system health, but didnt see anything standing out from 
GC logs. (using JDK 1.8_92 with G1GC). 
@Patrick , could you please elaborate the "mismatch on node count + RF" part.
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 5:35 PM, Atul Saroha  wrote:

There could be many reasons for this if it is intermittent. CPU usage + I/O 
wait status. As read are I/O intensive, your IOPS requirement should be met 
that time load. Heap issue if CPU is busy for GC only. Network health could be 
the reason. So better to look system health during that time when it comes.

-- -- 
-- ---
Atul Saroha
Lead Software Engineer
M: +91 8447784271 T: +91 124-415-6069 EXT: 12369
Plot # 362, ASF Centre - Tower A, Udyog Vihar,
 Phase -4, Sector 18, Gurgaon, Haryana 122016, INDIA
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Joseph Tech  wrote:

Hi Patrick,
The nodetool status shows all nodes up and normal now. From OpsCenter "Event 
Log" , there are some nodes reported as being down/up etc. during the timeframe 
of timeout, but these are Search workload nodes from the remote (non-local) DC. 

Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries

2016-09-05 Thread Joseph Tech
Hi Ryan,

Attached are the cfhistograms run within few mins of each other. On the
surface, don't see anything which indicates too much skewing (assuming
skewing ==keys spread across many SSTables) . Please confirm. Related to
this, what does the "cell count" metric indicate ; didn't find a clear
explanation in the documents.

Thanks,
Joseph


On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Ryan Svihla  wrote:

> Have you looked at cfhistograms/tablehistograms your data maybe just
> skewed (most likely explanation is probably the correct one here)
>
> Regard,
>
> Ryan Svihla
>
> _
> From: Joseph Tech 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 11:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries
> To: 
>
>
>
> Patrick,
>
> The desc table is below (only col names changed) :
>
> CREATE TABLE db.tbl (
> id1 text,
> id2 text,
> id3 text,
> id4 text,
> f1 text,
> f2 map,
> f3 map,
> created timestamp,
> updated timestamp,
> PRIMARY KEY (id1, id2, id3, id4)
> ) WITH CLUSTERING ORDER BY (id2 ASC, id3 ASC, id4 ASC)
> AND bloom_filter_fp_chance = 0.01
> AND caching = '{"keys":"ALL", "rows_per_partition":"NONE"}'
> AND comment = ''
> AND compaction = {'sstable_size_in_mb': '50', 'class':
> 'org.apache.cassandra.db.compaction.LeveledCompactionStrategy'}
> AND compression = {'sstable_compression': 'org.apache.cassandra.io.
> compress.LZ4Compressor'}
> AND dclocal_read_repair_chance = 0.0
> AND default_time_to_live = 0
> AND gc_grace_seconds = 864000
> AND max_index_interval = 2048
> AND memtable_flush_period_in_ms = 0
> AND min_index_interval = 128
> AND read_repair_chance = 0.1
> AND speculative_retry = '99.0PERCENTILE';
>
> and the query is select * from tbl where id1=? and id2=? and id3=? and
> id4=?
>
> The timeouts happen within ~2s to ~5s, while the successful calls have avg
> of 8ms and p99 of 15s. These times are seen from app side, the actual query
> times would be slightly lower.
>
> Is there a way to capture traces only when queries take longer than a
> specified duration? . We can't enable tracing in production given the
> volume of traffic. We see that the same query which timed out works fine
> later, so not sure if the trace of a successful run would help.
>
> Thanks,
> Joseph
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 8:05 PM, Patrick McFadin 
> wrote:
>
>> If you are getting a timeout on one table, then a mismatch of RF and node
>> count doesn't seem as likely.
>>
>> Time to look at your query. You said it was a 'select * from table where
>> key=?' type query. I would next use the trace facility in cqlsh to
>> investigate further. That's a good way to find hard to find issues. You
>> should be looking for clear ledge where you go from single digit ms to 4 or
>> 5 digit ms times.
>>
>> The other place to look is your data model for that table if you want to
>> post the output from a desc table.
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Joseph Tech 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On further analysis, this issue happens only on 1 table in the KS which
>>> has the max reads.
>>>
>>> @Atul, I will look at system health, but didnt see anything standing out
>>> from GC logs. (using JDK 1.8_92 with G1GC).
>>>
>>> @Patrick , could you please elaborate the "mismatch on node count + RF"
>>> part.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 5:35 PM, Atul Saroha 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There could be many reasons for this if it is intermittent. CPU usage +
>>>> I/O wait status. As read are I/O intensive, your IOPS requirement should be
>>>> met that time load. Heap issue if CPU is busy for GC only. Network health
>>>> could be the reason. So better to look system health during that time when
>>>> it comes.
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> -
>>>> Atul Saroha
>>>> *Lead Software Engineer*
>>>> *M*: +91 8447784271 *T*: +91 124-415-6069 *EXT*: 12369
>>>> Plot # 362, ASF Centre - Tower A, Udyog Vihar,
>>>>  Phase -4, Sector 18, Gurgaon, Haryana 122016, INDIA
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Joseph Tech 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>&

Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries

2016-09-01 Thread Ryan Svihla
Have you looked at cfhistograms/tablehistograms your data maybe just skewed 
(most likely explanation is probably the correct one here)

Regard,
Ryan Svihla

_
From: Joseph Tech 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries
To:  


Patrick,
The desc table is below (only col names changed) : 
CREATE TABLE db.tbl (    id1 text,    id2 text,    id3 text,    id4 text,    f1 
text,    f2 map,    f3 map,    created timestamp,    
updated timestamp,    PRIMARY KEY (id1, id2, id3, id4)) WITH CLUSTERING ORDER 
BY (id2 ASC, id3 ASC, id4 ASC)    AND bloom_filter_fp_chance = 0.01    AND 
caching = '{"keys":"ALL", "rows_per_partition":"NONE"}'    AND comment = ''    
AND compaction = {'sstable_size_in_mb': '50', 'class': 
'org.apache.cassandra.db.compaction.LeveledCompactionStrategy'}    AND 
compression = {'sstable_compression': 
'org.apache.cassandra.io.compress.LZ4Compressor'}    AND 
dclocal_read_repair_chance = 0.0    AND default_time_to_live = 0    AND 
gc_grace_seconds = 864000    AND max_index_interval = 2048    AND 
memtable_flush_period_in_ms = 0    AND min_index_interval = 128    AND 
read_repair_chance = 0.1    AND speculative_retry = '99.0PERCENTILE';
and the query is select * from tbl where id1=? and id2=? and id3=? and id4=?
The timeouts happen within ~2s to ~5s, while the successful calls have avg of 
8ms and p99 of 15s. These times are seen from app side, the actual query times 
would be slightly lower. 
Is there a way to capture traces only when queries take longer than a specified 
duration? . We can't enable tracing in production given the volume of traffic. 
We see that the same query which timed out works fine later, so not sure if the 
trace of a successful run would help.
Thanks,Joseph

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 8:05 PM, Patrick McFadin  wrote:
If you are getting a timeout on one table, then a mismatch of RF and node count 
doesn't seem as likely. 
Time to look at your query. You said it was a 'select * from table where key=?' 
type query. I would next use the trace facility in cqlsh to investigate 
further. That's a good way to find hard to find issues. You should be looking 
for clear ledge where you go from single digit ms to 4 or 5 digit ms times. 
The other place to look is your data model for that table if you want to post 
the output from a desc table.
Patrick


On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Joseph Tech  wrote:
On further analysis, this issue happens only on 1 table in the KS which has the 
max reads. 
@Atul, I will look at system health, but didnt see anything standing out from 
GC logs. (using JDK 1.8_92 with G1GC). 
@Patrick , could you please elaborate the "mismatch on node count + RF" part.
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 5:35 PM, Atul Saroha  wrote:
There could be many reasons for this if it is intermittent. CPU usage + I/O 
wait status. As read are I/O intensive, your IOPS requirement should be met 
that time load. Heap issue if CPU is busy for GC only. Network health could be 
the reason. So better to look system health during that time when it comes.

-
Atul Saroha
Lead Software Engineer
M: +91 8447784271 T: +91 124-415-6069 EXT: 12369
Plot # 362, ASF Centre - Tower A, Udyog Vihar,
 Phase -4, Sector 18, Gurgaon, Haryana 122016, INDIA
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Joseph Tech  wrote:
Hi Patrick,
The nodetool status shows all nodes up and normal now. From OpsCenter "Event 
Log" , there are some nodes reported as being down/up etc. during the timeframe 
of timeout, but these are Search workload nodes from the remote (non-local) DC. 
The RF is 3 and there are 9 nodes per DC.
Thanks,Joseph
On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Patrick McFadin  wrote:
You aren't achieving quorum on your reads as the error is explains. That means 
you either have some nodes down or your topology is not matching up. The fact 
you are using LOCAL_QUORUM might point to a datacenter mis-match on node count 
+ RF. 
What does your nodetool status look like?
Patrick
On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Joseph Tech  wrote:
Hi,
We recently started getting intermittent timeouts on primary key queries 
(select * from table where key=)
The error is : com.datastax.driver.core.exceptions.ReadTimeoutException: 
Cassandra timeout during read query at consistency LOCAL_QUORUM (2 responses 
were required but only 1 replica
a responded)
The same query would work fine when tried directly from cqlsh. There are no 
indications in system.log for the table in question, though there were 
compactions in progress for tables in another keyspace which is more frequently 
accessed. 
My understanding is that the chances of primary key queries timing out is very 
minimal. Please share the possible reasons / ways to debug this issue. 

We are using Cassandra 2.1 (DSE 4.8.7).
Thanks,Joseph













Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries

2016-08-31 Thread Joseph Tech
Patrick,

The desc table is below (only col names changed) :

CREATE TABLE db.tbl (
id1 text,
id2 text,
id3 text,
id4 text,
f1 text,
f2 map,
f3 map,
created timestamp,
updated timestamp,
PRIMARY KEY (id1, id2, id3, id4)
) WITH CLUSTERING ORDER BY (id2 ASC, id3 ASC, id4 ASC)
AND bloom_filter_fp_chance = 0.01
AND caching = '{"keys":"ALL", "rows_per_partition":"NONE"}'
AND comment = ''
AND compaction = {'sstable_size_in_mb': '50', 'class':
'org.apache.cassandra.db.compaction.LeveledCompactionStrategy'}
AND compression = {'sstable_compression':
'org.apache.cassandra.io.compress.LZ4Compressor'}
AND dclocal_read_repair_chance = 0.0
AND default_time_to_live = 0
AND gc_grace_seconds = 864000
AND max_index_interval = 2048
AND memtable_flush_period_in_ms = 0
AND min_index_interval = 128
AND read_repair_chance = 0.1
AND speculative_retry = '99.0PERCENTILE';

and the query is select * from tbl where id1=? and id2=? and id3=? and id4=?

The timeouts happen within ~2s to ~5s, while the successful calls have avg
of 8ms and p99 of 15s. These times are seen from app side, the actual query
times would be slightly lower.

Is there a way to capture traces only when queries take longer than a
specified duration? . We can't enable tracing in production given the
volume of traffic. We see that the same query which timed out works fine
later, so not sure if the trace of a successful run would help.

Thanks,
Joseph


On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 8:05 PM, Patrick McFadin  wrote:

> If you are getting a timeout on one table, then a mismatch of RF and node
> count doesn't seem as likely.
>
> Time to look at your query. You said it was a 'select * from table where
> key=?' type query. I would next use the trace facility in cqlsh to
> investigate further. That's a good way to find hard to find issues. You
> should be looking for clear ledge where you go from single digit ms to 4 or
> 5 digit ms times.
>
> The other place to look is your data model for that table if you want to
> post the output from a desc table.
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Joseph Tech 
> wrote:
>
>> On further analysis, this issue happens only on 1 table in the KS which
>> has the max reads.
>>
>> @Atul, I will look at system health, but didnt see anything standing out
>> from GC logs. (using JDK 1.8_92 with G1GC).
>>
>> @Patrick , could you please elaborate the "mismatch on node count + RF"
>> part.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 5:35 PM, Atul Saroha 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There could be many reasons for this if it is intermittent. CPU usage +
>>> I/O wait status. As read are I/O intensive, your IOPS requirement should be
>>> met that time load. Heap issue if CPU is busy for GC only. Network health
>>> could be the reason. So better to look system health during that time when
>>> it comes.
>>>
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Atul Saroha
>>> *Lead Software Engineer*
>>> *M*: +91 8447784271 *T*: +91 124-415-6069 *EXT*: 12369
>>> Plot # 362, ASF Centre - Tower A, Udyog Vihar,
>>>  Phase -4, Sector 18, Gurgaon, Haryana 122016, INDIA
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Joseph Tech 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Patrick,

 The nodetool status shows all nodes up and normal now. From OpsCenter
 "Event Log" , there are some nodes reported as being down/up etc. during
 the timeframe of timeout, but these are Search workload nodes from the
 remote (non-local) DC. The RF is 3 and there are 9 nodes per DC.

 Thanks,
 Joseph

 On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Patrick McFadin 
 wrote:

> You aren't achieving quorum on your reads as the error is explains.
> That means you either have some nodes down or your topology is not 
> matching
> up. The fact you are using LOCAL_QUORUM might point to a datacenter
> mis-match on node count + RF.
>
> What does your nodetool status look like?
>
> Patrick
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Joseph Tech 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We recently started getting intermittent timeouts on primary key
>> queries (select * from table where key=)
>>
>> The error is : com.datastax.driver.core.exceptions.ReadTimeoutException:
>> Cassandra timeout during read query at consistency LOCAL_QUORUM (2
>> responses were required but only 1 replica
>> a responded)
>>
>> The same query would work fine when tried directly from cqlsh. There
>> are no indications in system.log for the table in question, though there
>> were compactions in progress for tables in another keyspace which is more
>> frequently accessed.
>>
>> My understanding is that the chances of primary key queries timing
>> out is very minimal. Please share the possible reasons / ways to debug 
>> this
>> issue.
>>
>> We are

Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries

2016-08-31 Thread Patrick McFadin
If you are getting a timeout on one table, then a mismatch of RF and node
count doesn't seem as likely.

Time to look at your query. You said it was a 'select * from table where
key=?' type query. I would next use the trace facility in cqlsh to
investigate further. That's a good way to find hard to find issues. You
should be looking for clear ledge where you go from single digit ms to 4 or
5 digit ms times.

The other place to look is your data model for that table if you want to
post the output from a desc table.

Patrick



On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Joseph Tech  wrote:

> On further analysis, this issue happens only on 1 table in the KS which
> has the max reads.
>
> @Atul, I will look at system health, but didnt see anything standing out
> from GC logs. (using JDK 1.8_92 with G1GC).
>
> @Patrick , could you please elaborate the "mismatch on node count + RF"
> part.
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 5:35 PM, Atul Saroha 
> wrote:
>
>> There could be many reasons for this if it is intermittent. CPU usage +
>> I/O wait status. As read are I/O intensive, your IOPS requirement should be
>> met that time load. Heap issue if CPU is busy for GC only. Network health
>> could be the reason. So better to look system health during that time when
>> it comes.
>>
>> 
>> -
>> Atul Saroha
>> *Lead Software Engineer*
>> *M*: +91 8447784271 *T*: +91 124-415-6069 *EXT*: 12369
>> Plot # 362, ASF Centre - Tower A, Udyog Vihar,
>>  Phase -4, Sector 18, Gurgaon, Haryana 122016, INDIA
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Joseph Tech 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Patrick,
>>>
>>> The nodetool status shows all nodes up and normal now. From OpsCenter
>>> "Event Log" , there are some nodes reported as being down/up etc. during
>>> the timeframe of timeout, but these are Search workload nodes from the
>>> remote (non-local) DC. The RF is 3 and there are 9 nodes per DC.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Patrick McFadin 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 You aren't achieving quorum on your reads as the error is explains.
 That means you either have some nodes down or your topology is not matching
 up. The fact you are using LOCAL_QUORUM might point to a datacenter
 mis-match on node count + RF.

 What does your nodetool status look like?

 Patrick

 On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Joseph Tech 
 wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We recently started getting intermittent timeouts on primary key
> queries (select * from table where key=)
>
> The error is : com.datastax.driver.core.exceptions.ReadTimeoutException:
> Cassandra timeout during read query at consistency LOCAL_QUORUM (2
> responses were required but only 1 replica
> a responded)
>
> The same query would work fine when tried directly from cqlsh. There
> are no indications in system.log for the table in question, though there
> were compactions in progress for tables in another keyspace which is more
> frequently accessed.
>
> My understanding is that the chances of primary key queries timing out
> is very minimal. Please share the possible reasons / ways to debug this
> issue.
>
> We are using Cassandra 2.1 (DSE 4.8.7).
>
> Thanks,
> Joseph
>
>
>
>

>>>
>>
>


Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries

2016-08-30 Thread Joseph Tech
On further analysis, this issue happens only on 1 table in the KS which has
the max reads.

@Atul, I will look at system health, but didnt see anything standing out
from GC logs. (using JDK 1.8_92 with G1GC).

@Patrick , could you please elaborate the "mismatch on node count + RF"
part.

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 5:35 PM, Atul Saroha 
wrote:

> There could be many reasons for this if it is intermittent. CPU usage +
> I/O wait status. As read are I/O intensive, your IOPS requirement should be
> met that time load. Heap issue if CPU is busy for GC only. Network health
> could be the reason. So better to look system health during that time when
> it comes.
>
> 
> -
> Atul Saroha
> *Lead Software Engineer*
> *M*: +91 8447784271 *T*: +91 124-415-6069 *EXT*: 12369
> Plot # 362, ASF Centre - Tower A, Udyog Vihar,
>  Phase -4, Sector 18, Gurgaon, Haryana 122016, INDIA
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Joseph Tech 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Patrick,
>>
>> The nodetool status shows all nodes up and normal now. From OpsCenter
>> "Event Log" , there are some nodes reported as being down/up etc. during
>> the timeframe of timeout, but these are Search workload nodes from the
>> remote (non-local) DC. The RF is 3 and there are 9 nodes per DC.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Joseph
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Patrick McFadin 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You aren't achieving quorum on your reads as the error is explains. That
>>> means you either have some nodes down or your topology is not matching up.
>>> The fact you are using LOCAL_QUORUM might point to a datacenter mis-match
>>> on node count + RF.
>>>
>>> What does your nodetool status look like?
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Joseph Tech 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 We recently started getting intermittent timeouts on primary key
 queries (select * from table where key=)

 The error is : com.datastax.driver.core.exceptions.ReadTimeoutException:
 Cassandra timeout during read query at consistency LOCAL_QUORUM (2
 responses were required but only 1 replica
 a responded)

 The same query would work fine when tried directly from cqlsh. There
 are no indications in system.log for the table in question, though there
 were compactions in progress for tables in another keyspace which is more
 frequently accessed.

 My understanding is that the chances of primary key queries timing out
 is very minimal. Please share the possible reasons / ways to debug this
 issue.

 We are using Cassandra 2.1 (DSE 4.8.7).

 Thanks,
 Joseph




>>>
>>
>


Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries

2016-08-30 Thread Atul Saroha
There could be many reasons for this if it is intermittent. CPU usage + I/O
wait status. As read are I/O intensive, your IOPS requirement should be met
that time load. Heap issue if CPU is busy for GC only. Network health could
be the reason. So better to look system health during that time when it
comes.

-
Atul Saroha
*Lead Software Engineer*
*M*: +91 8447784271 *T*: +91 124-415-6069 *EXT*: 12369
Plot # 362, ASF Centre - Tower A, Udyog Vihar,
 Phase -4, Sector 18, Gurgaon, Haryana 122016, INDIA

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Joseph Tech  wrote:

> Hi Patrick,
>
> The nodetool status shows all nodes up and normal now. From OpsCenter
> "Event Log" , there are some nodes reported as being down/up etc. during
> the timeframe of timeout, but these are Search workload nodes from the
> remote (non-local) DC. The RF is 3 and there are 9 nodes per DC.
>
> Thanks,
> Joseph
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Patrick McFadin 
> wrote:
>
>> You aren't achieving quorum on your reads as the error is explains. That
>> means you either have some nodes down or your topology is not matching up.
>> The fact you are using LOCAL_QUORUM might point to a datacenter mis-match
>> on node count + RF.
>>
>> What does your nodetool status look like?
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Joseph Tech 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We recently started getting intermittent timeouts on primary key queries
>>> (select * from table where key=)
>>>
>>> The error is : com.datastax.driver.core.exceptions.ReadTimeoutException:
>>> Cassandra timeout during read query at consistency LOCAL_QUORUM (2
>>> responses were required but only 1 replica
>>> a responded)
>>>
>>> The same query would work fine when tried directly from cqlsh. There are
>>> no indications in system.log for the table in question, though there were
>>> compactions in progress for tables in another keyspace which is more
>>> frequently accessed.
>>>
>>> My understanding is that the chances of primary key queries timing out
>>> is very minimal. Please share the possible reasons / ways to debug this
>>> issue.
>>>
>>> We are using Cassandra 2.1 (DSE 4.8.7).
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>


Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries

2016-08-30 Thread Joseph Tech
Hi Patrick,

The nodetool status shows all nodes up and normal now. From OpsCenter
"Event Log" , there are some nodes reported as being down/up etc. during
the timeframe of timeout, but these are Search workload nodes from the
remote (non-local) DC. The RF is 3 and there are 9 nodes per DC.

Thanks,
Joseph

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Patrick McFadin 
wrote:

> You aren't achieving quorum on your reads as the error is explains. That
> means you either have some nodes down or your topology is not matching up.
> The fact you are using LOCAL_QUORUM might point to a datacenter mis-match
> on node count + RF.
>
> What does your nodetool status look like?
>
> Patrick
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Joseph Tech 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We recently started getting intermittent timeouts on primary key queries
>> (select * from table where key=)
>>
>> The error is : com.datastax.driver.core.exceptions.ReadTimeoutException:
>> Cassandra timeout during read query at consistency LOCAL_QUORUM (2
>> responses were required but only 1 replica
>> a responded)
>>
>> The same query would work fine when tried directly from cqlsh. There are
>> no indications in system.log for the table in question, though there were
>> compactions in progress for tables in another keyspace which is more
>> frequently accessed.
>>
>> My understanding is that the chances of primary key queries timing out is
>> very minimal. Please share the possible reasons / ways to debug this issue.
>>
>> We are using Cassandra 2.1 (DSE 4.8.7).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Joseph
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


Re: Read timeouts on primary key queries

2016-08-29 Thread Patrick McFadin
You aren't achieving quorum on your reads as the error is explains. That
means you either have some nodes down or your topology is not matching up.
The fact you are using LOCAL_QUORUM might point to a datacenter mis-match
on node count + RF.

What does your nodetool status look like?

Patrick

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Joseph Tech  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We recently started getting intermittent timeouts on primary key queries
> (select * from table where key=)
>
> The error is : com.datastax.driver.core.exceptions.ReadTimeoutException:
> Cassandra timeout during read query at consistency LOCAL_QUORUM (2
> responses were required but only 1 replica
> a responded)
>
> The same query would work fine when tried directly from cqlsh. There are
> no indications in system.log for the table in question, though there were
> compactions in progress for tables in another keyspace which is more
> frequently accessed.
>
> My understanding is that the chances of primary key queries timing out is
> very minimal. Please share the possible reasons / ways to debug this issue.
>
> We are using Cassandra 2.1 (DSE 4.8.7).
>
> Thanks,
> Joseph
>
>
>
>


Read timeouts on primary key queries

2016-08-29 Thread Joseph Tech
Hi,

We recently started getting intermittent timeouts on primary key queries
(select * from table where key=)

The error is : com.datastax.driver.core.exceptions.ReadTimeoutException:
Cassandra timeout during read query at consistency LOCAL_QUORUM (2
responses were required but only 1 replica
a responded)

The same query would work fine when tried directly from cqlsh. There are no
indications in system.log for the table in question, though there were
compactions in progress for tables in another keyspace which is more
frequently accessed.

My understanding is that the chances of primary key queries timing out is
very minimal. Please share the possible reasons / ways to debug this issue.

We are using Cassandra 2.1 (DSE 4.8.7).

Thanks,
Joseph