Re: Seed nodes as part of cluster

2017-05-01 Thread Roman Naumenko
Awesome, thanks for clarification.

So why new nodes can’t connect to ANY seed node's IP that is returned by DNS?
Why the IPs must be “hardcoded”?

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Roman

> On May 1, 2017, at 2:11 PM, daemeon reiydelle  wrote:
> 
> Caps below for emphasis, not shouting ;{)
> 
> Seed nodes are IDENTICAL to all other node hdfs nodes or you will wish 
> otherwise. Folks get confused because of terminoligy. I refer to this stuff 
> as "the seed node service of a normal hdfs node". ANY HDFS NODE IS ABLE TO 
> ACT AS A SEED NODE BY DEFINITION. But ONLY the nodes listed as seeds in the 
> XML will be contacted, however.
> 
> The seed "function" is only used by new nodes when they FIRST join the 
> cluster for the FIRST time, then never used again (once an node joins the 
> cluster it is using different protocols, a separate list of nodes, etc.).
> 
> ...
> 
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> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Roman Naumenko  > wrote:
> So they are like any other “data” node… but special?
> 
> I’m so freaking confused by this seed nodes design.
> 
> —
> Roman
> 
>> On May 1, 2017, at 1:37 PM, vasu gunja > > wrote:
>> 
>> Seed will contain meta data + actual data too
>> 
>> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Roman Naumenko > > wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I’d like to confirm that seed nodes doesn’t contain any data. Is it correct?
>> 
>> Can the instances for seed nodes be smaller size than for data nodes?
>> 
>> Thank you
>> Roman
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Re: Seed nodes as part of cluster

2017-05-01 Thread daemeon reiydelle
Caps below for emphasis, not shouting ;{)

Seed nodes are IDENTICAL to all other node hdfs nodes or you will wish
otherwise. Folks get confused because of terminoligy. I refer to this stuff
as "the seed node service of a normal hdfs node". ANY HDFS NODE IS ABLE TO
ACT AS A SEED NODE BY DEFINITION. But ONLY the nodes listed as seeds in the
XML will be contacted, however.

The seed "function" is only used by new nodes when they FIRST join the
cluster for the FIRST time, then never used again (once an node joins the
cluster it is using different protocols, a separate list of nodes, etc.).




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On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Roman Naumenko  wrote:

> So they are like any other “data” node… but special?
>
> I’m so freaking confused by this seed nodes design.
>
> —
> Roman
>
> On May 1, 2017, at 1:37 PM, vasu gunja  wrote:
>
> Seed will contain meta data + actual data too
>
> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Roman Naumenko 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I’d like to confirm that seed nodes doesn’t contain any data. Is it
>> correct?
>>
>> Can the instances for seed nodes be smaller size than for data nodes?
>>
>> Thank you
>> Roman
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>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org
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Re: Seed nodes as part of cluster

2017-05-01 Thread Roman Naumenko
So they are like any other “data” node… but special?

I’m so freaking confused by this seed nodes design.

—
Roman

> On May 1, 2017, at 1:37 PM, vasu gunja  wrote:
> 
> Seed will contain meta data + actual data too
> 
> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Roman Naumenko  > wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I’d like to confirm that seed nodes doesn’t contain any data. Is it correct?
> 
> Can the instances for seed nodes be smaller size than for data nodes?
> 
> Thank you
> Roman
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Re: Seed nodes as part of cluster

2017-05-01 Thread vasu gunja
Seed will contain meta data + actual data too

On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Roman Naumenko  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I’d like to confirm that seed nodes doesn’t contain any data. Is it
> correct?
>
> Can the instances for seed nodes be smaller size than for data nodes?
>
> Thank you
> Roman
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Seed nodes as part of cluster

2017-05-01 Thread Roman Naumenko
Hi,

I’d like to confirm that seed nodes doesn’t contain any data. Is it correct?

Can the instances for seed nodes be smaller size than for data nodes?

Thank you
Roman
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