Re: [DISCUSS] "Who's hiring on Flink" monthly thread in the mailing lists?

[Renjie Liu]

Great!

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 1:30 AM Matthias J. Sax  wrote:

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> I think it's worth to announce this via news list. :)
>
> On 12/13/16 7:32 AM, Robert Metzger wrote:
> > The commun...@flink.apache.org 
> > has been created :)
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Robert Metzger
> > > wrote:
> >
> > +1. I've requested the community@ mailing list from infra.
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Kostas Tzoumas
> > > wrote:
> >
> > It seems that several folks are excited about the idea - but there
> > is still a concern on whether this would be spam for the dev@ and
> > user@ lists (which I share)
> >
> > As a compromise, I propose to request a new mailing list (
> > commun...@flink.apache.org )
> > which we can use for this purpose, and also to post upcoming
> > meetups, conferences, etc. In order to inform the community about
> > this mailing list, we can cc the dev@ and user@ lists in the first
> > months until the new mailing list has ramped up.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Greg Hogan  > > wrote:
> >
> >> Google indexes the mailing list. Anyone can filter the
> > messages to trash
> >> in a few clicks.
> >>
> >> This will also be a means for the community to better
> > understand which and
> >> how companies are using Flink.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 8:27 AM, Felix Neutatz
> > >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I wonder whether a mailing list is a good choice for that in
> > general. If
> >>> I am looking for a job I won't register for a mailing list or
> > browse
> >>> through the archive of one but rather search it via Google.
> > So what about
> >>> putting it on a dedicated site on the Web Page. This feels
> > more intuitive
> >>> to me and gives a better overview.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards, Felix
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 9, 2016 14:20, "Ufuk Celebi"  > > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 9 December 2016 at 14:13:14, Robert Metzger
> > (rmetz...@apache.org )
> >>> wrote:
>  I'm against using the news@ list for that. The promise of the
>  news@ list is that its low-traffic and
> > only for
> >>> news. If
>  we now start having job offers (and potentially some
> > questions on them
>  etc.) it'll be a list with more than some announcements.
>  That's also the reason why the news@ list is completely
> > moderated.
> >>>
> >>> I agree with Robert. I would consider that to be spam if
> > posted to news@.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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Liu, Renjie
Software Engineer, MVAD

Re: [DISCUSS] "Who's hiring on Flink" monthly thread in the mailing lists?

[Matthias J. Sax]

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I think it's worth to announce this via news list. :)

On 12/13/16 7:32 AM, Robert Metzger wrote:
> The commun...@flink.apache.org 
> has been created :)
> 
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Robert Metzger
> > wrote:
> 
> +1. I've requested the community@ mailing list from infra.
> 
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Kostas Tzoumas 
> > wrote:
> 
> It seems that several folks are excited about the idea - but there
> is still a concern on whether this would be spam for the dev@ and
> user@ lists (which I share)
> 
> As a compromise, I propose to request a new mailing list ( 
> commun...@flink.apache.org ) 
> which we can use for this purpose, and also to post upcoming
> meetups, conferences, etc. In order to inform the community about
> this mailing list, we can cc the dev@ and user@ lists in the first 
> months until the new mailing list has ramped up.
> 
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Greg Hogan  > wrote:
> 
>> Google indexes the mailing list. Anyone can filter the
> messages to trash
>> in a few clicks.
>> 
>> This will also be a means for the community to better
> understand which and
>> how companies are using Flink.
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 8:27 AM, Felix Neutatz
> >
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I wonder whether a mailing list is a good choice for that in
> general. If
>>> I am looking for a job I won't register for a mailing list or
> browse
>>> through the archive of one but rather search it via Google.
> So what about
>>> putting it on a dedicated site on the Web Page. This feels
> more intuitive
>>> to me and gives a better overview.
>>> 
>>> Best regards, Felix
>>> 
>>> On Dec 9, 2016 14:20, "Ufuk Celebi"  > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9 December 2016 at 14:13:14, Robert Metzger
> (rmetz...@apache.org )
>>> wrote:
 I'm against using the news@ list for that. The promise of the
 news@ list is that its low-traffic and
> only for
>>> news. If
 we now start having job offers (and potentially some
> questions on them
 etc.) it'll be a list with more than some announcements. 
 That's also the reason why the news@ list is completely
> moderated.
>>> 
>>> I agree with Robert. I would consider that to be spam if
> posted to news@.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [DISCUSS] "Who's hiring on Flink" monthly thread in the mailing lists?

[Robert Metzger]

Exactly.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 4:40 PM, Timur Shenkao  wrote:

> How to subscribe?
> community-subscr...@flink.apache.org ?
>
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 6:32 PM, Robert Metzger 
> wrote:
>
>> The commun...@flink.apache.org has been created :)
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Robert Metzger 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1. I've requested the community@ mailing list from infra.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Kostas Tzoumas 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 It seems that several folks are excited about the idea - but there is
 still
 a concern on whether this would be spam for the dev@ and user@ lists
 (which
 I share)

 As a compromise, I propose to request a new mailing list (
 commun...@flink.apache.org) which we can use for this purpose, and
 also to
 post upcoming meetups, conferences, etc. In order to inform the
 community
 about this mailing list, we can cc the dev@ and user@ lists in the
 first
 months until the new mailing list has ramped up.

 On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Greg Hogan  wrote:

 > Google indexes the mailing list. Anyone can filter the messages to
 trash
 > in a few clicks.
 >
 > This will also be a means for the community to better understand
 which and
 > how companies are using Flink.
 >
 > On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 8:27 AM, Felix Neutatz 
 > wrote:
 >
 >> Hi,
 >>
 >> I wonder whether a mailing list is a good choice for that in
 general. If
 >> I am looking for a job I won't register for a mailing list or browse
 >> through the archive of one but rather search it via Google. So what
 about
 >> putting it on a dedicated site on the Web Page. This feels more
 intuitive
 >> to me and gives a better overview.
 >>
 >> Best regards,
 >> Felix
 >>
 >> On Dec 9, 2016 14:20, "Ufuk Celebi"  wrote:
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> On 9 December 2016 at 14:13:14, Robert Metzger (rmetz...@apache.org)
 >> wrote:
 >> > I'm against using the news@ list for that.
 >> > The promise of the news@ list is that its low-traffic and only for
 >> news. If
 >> > we now start having job offers (and potentially some questions on
 them
 >> > etc.) it'll be a list with more than some announcements.
 >> > That's also the reason why the news@ list is completely moderated.
 >>
 >> I agree with Robert. I would consider that to be spam if posted to
 news@.
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >

>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] "Who's hiring on Flink" monthly thread in the mailing lists?

[Timur Shenkao]

How to subscribe?
community-subscr...@flink.apache.org ?

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 6:32 PM, Robert Metzger  wrote:

> The commun...@flink.apache.org has been created :)
>
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Robert Metzger 
> wrote:
>
>> +1. I've requested the community@ mailing list from infra.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Kostas Tzoumas 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It seems that several folks are excited about the idea - but there is
>>> still
>>> a concern on whether this would be spam for the dev@ and user@ lists
>>> (which
>>> I share)
>>>
>>> As a compromise, I propose to request a new mailing list (
>>> commun...@flink.apache.org) which we can use for this purpose, and also
>>> to
>>> post upcoming meetups, conferences, etc. In order to inform the community
>>> about this mailing list, we can cc the dev@ and user@ lists in the first
>>> months until the new mailing list has ramped up.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Greg Hogan  wrote:
>>>
>>> > Google indexes the mailing list. Anyone can filter the messages to
>>> trash
>>> > in a few clicks.
>>> >
>>> > This will also be a means for the community to better understand which
>>> and
>>> > how companies are using Flink.
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 8:27 AM, Felix Neutatz 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >> I wonder whether a mailing list is a good choice for that in general.
>>> If
>>> >> I am looking for a job I won't register for a mailing list or browse
>>> >> through the archive of one but rather search it via Google. So what
>>> about
>>> >> putting it on a dedicated site on the Web Page. This feels more
>>> intuitive
>>> >> to me and gives a better overview.
>>> >>
>>> >> Best regards,
>>> >> Felix
>>> >>
>>> >> On Dec 9, 2016 14:20, "Ufuk Celebi"  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 9 December 2016 at 14:13:14, Robert Metzger (rmetz...@apache.org)
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > I'm against using the news@ list for that.
>>> >> > The promise of the news@ list is that its low-traffic and only for
>>> >> news. If
>>> >> > we now start having job offers (and potentially some questions on
>>> them
>>> >> > etc.) it'll be a list with more than some announcements.
>>> >> > That's also the reason why the news@ list is completely moderated.
>>> >>
>>> >> I agree with Robert. I would consider that to be spam if posted to
>>> news@.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] "Who's hiring on Flink" monthly thread in the mailing lists?

[Robert Metzger]

The commun...@flink.apache.org has been created :)

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Robert Metzger 
wrote:

> +1. I've requested the community@ mailing list from infra.
>
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Kostas Tzoumas 
> wrote:
>
>> It seems that several folks are excited about the idea - but there is
>> still
>> a concern on whether this would be spam for the dev@ and user@ lists
>> (which
>> I share)
>>
>> As a compromise, I propose to request a new mailing list (
>> commun...@flink.apache.org) which we can use for this purpose, and also
>> to
>> post upcoming meetups, conferences, etc. In order to inform the community
>> about this mailing list, we can cc the dev@ and user@ lists in the first
>> months until the new mailing list has ramped up.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Greg Hogan  wrote:
>>
>> > Google indexes the mailing list. Anyone can filter the messages to trash
>> > in a few clicks.
>> >
>> > This will also be a means for the community to better understand which
>> and
>> > how companies are using Flink.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 8:27 AM, Felix Neutatz 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I wonder whether a mailing list is a good choice for that in general.
>> If
>> >> I am looking for a job I won't register for a mailing list or browse
>> >> through the archive of one but rather search it via Google. So what
>> about
>> >> putting it on a dedicated site on the Web Page. This feels more
>> intuitive
>> >> to me and gives a better overview.
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >> Felix
>> >>
>> >> On Dec 9, 2016 14:20, "Ufuk Celebi"  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 9 December 2016 at 14:13:14, Robert Metzger (rmetz...@apache.org)
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > I'm against using the news@ list for that.
>> >> > The promise of the news@ list is that its low-traffic and only for
>> >> news. If
>> >> > we now start having job offers (and potentially some questions on
>> them
>> >> > etc.) it'll be a list with more than some announcements.
>> >> > That's also the reason why the news@ list is completely moderated.
>> >>
>> >> I agree with Robert. I would consider that to be spam if posted to
>> news@.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] "Who's hiring on Flink" monthly thread in the mailing lists?

[Robert Metzger]

+1. I've requested the community@ mailing list from infra.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Kostas Tzoumas 
wrote:

> It seems that several folks are excited about the idea - but there is still
> a concern on whether this would be spam for the dev@ and user@ lists
> (which
> I share)
>
> As a compromise, I propose to request a new mailing list (
> commun...@flink.apache.org) which we can use for this purpose, and also to
> post upcoming meetups, conferences, etc. In order to inform the community
> about this mailing list, we can cc the dev@ and user@ lists in the first
> months until the new mailing list has ramped up.
>
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Greg Hogan  wrote:
>
> > Google indexes the mailing list. Anyone can filter the messages to trash
> > in a few clicks.
> >
> > This will also be a means for the community to better understand which
> and
> > how companies are using Flink.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 8:27 AM, Felix Neutatz 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I wonder whether a mailing list is a good choice for that in general. If
> >> I am looking for a job I won't register for a mailing list or browse
> >> through the archive of one but rather search it via Google. So what
> about
> >> putting it on a dedicated site on the Web Page. This feels more
> intuitive
> >> to me and gives a better overview.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Felix
> >>
> >> On Dec 9, 2016 14:20, "Ufuk Celebi"  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9 December 2016 at 14:13:14, Robert Metzger (rmetz...@apache.org)
> >> wrote:
> >> > I'm against using the news@ list for that.
> >> > The promise of the news@ list is that its low-traffic and only for
> >> news. If
> >> > we now start having job offers (and potentially some questions on them
> >> > etc.) it'll be a list with more than some announcements.
> >> > That's also the reason why the news@ list is completely moderated.
> >>
> >> I agree with Robert. I would consider that to be spam if posted to news@
> .
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] "Who's hiring on Flink" monthly thread in the mailing lists?

[Greg Hogan]

Google indexes the mailing list. Anyone can filter the messages to trash in
a few clicks.

This will also be a means for the community to better understand which and
how companies are using Flink.

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 8:27 AM, Felix Neutatz 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I wonder whether a mailing list is a good choice for that in general. If I
> am looking for a job I won't register for a mailing list or browse through
> the archive of one but rather search it via Google. So what about putting
> it on a dedicated site on the Web Page. This feels more intuitive to me and
> gives a better overview.
>
> Best regards,
> Felix
>
> On Dec 9, 2016 14:20, "Ufuk Celebi"  wrote:
>
>
>
>
> On 9 December 2016 at 14:13:14, Robert Metzger (rmetz...@apache.org)
> wrote:
> > I'm against using the news@ list for that.
> > The promise of the news@ list is that its low-traffic and only for
> news. If
> > we now start having job offers (and potentially some questions on them
> > etc.) it'll be a list with more than some announcements.
> > That's also the reason why the news@ list is completely moderated.
>
> I agree with Robert. I would consider that to be spam if posted to news@.
>
>
>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] "Who's hiring on Flink" monthly thread in the mailing lists?

[Timur Shenkao]

Hi there,
1) it's a perfect idea
2) as I understand such information can be placed neither on*
flink.apache.org * nor on* data-artisans.com
*
3) there are tons of sites; who would take care of *dedicated site? *how
not to forget about its existence?

So, 1 - 4 letters a month in dev / user mail lists would not spoil anything
+ all interested people will get the info

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Felix Neutatz 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I wonder whether a mailing list is a good choice for that in general. If I
> am looking for a job I won't register for a mailing list or browse through
> the archive of one but rather search it via Google. So what about putting
> it on a dedicated site on the Web Page. This feels more intuitive to me and
> gives a better overview.
>
> Best regards,
> Felix
>
> On Dec 9, 2016 14:20, "Ufuk Celebi"  wrote:
>
>
>
>
> On 9 December 2016 at 14:13:14, Robert Metzger (rmetz...@apache.org)
> wrote:
> > I'm against using the news@ list for that.
> > The promise of the news@ list is that its low-traffic and only for
> news. If
> > we now start having job offers (and potentially some questions on them
> > etc.) it'll be a list with more than some announcements.
> > That's also the reason why the news@ list is completely moderated.
>
> I agree with Robert. I would consider that to be spam if posted to news@.
>
>
>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] "Who's hiring on Flink" monthly thread in the mailing lists?

[Felix Neutatz]

Hi,

I wonder whether a mailing list is a good choice for that in general. If I
am looking for a job I won't register for a mailing list or browse through
the archive of one but rather search it via Google. So what about putting
it on a dedicated site on the Web Page. This feels more intuitive to me and
gives a better overview.

Best regards,
Felix

On Dec 9, 2016 14:20, "Ufuk Celebi"  wrote:




On 9 December 2016 at 14:13:14, Robert Metzger (rmetz...@apache.org) wrote:
> I'm against using the news@ list for that.
> The promise of the news@ list is that its low-traffic and only for news.
If
> we now start having job offers (and potentially some questions on them
> etc.) it'll be a list with more than some announcements.
> That's also the reason why the news@ list is completely moderated.

I agree with Robert. I would consider that to be spam if posted to news@.

Re: [DISCUSS] "Who's hiring on Flink" monthly thread in the mailing lists?

[Ufuk Celebi]

On 9 December 2016 at 14:13:14, Robert Metzger (rmetz...@apache.org) wrote:
> I'm against using the news@ list for that.
> The promise of the news@ list is that its low-traffic and only for news. If
> we now start having job offers (and potentially some questions on them
> etc.) it'll be a list with more than some announcements.
> That's also the reason why the news@ list is completely moderated.

I agree with Robert. I would consider that to be spam if posted to news@.

Re: [DISCUSS] "Who's hiring on Flink" monthly thread in the mailing lists?

[Robert Metzger]

I'm against using the news@ list for that.
The promise of the news@ list is that its low-traffic and only for news. If
we now start having job offers (and potentially some questions on them
etc.) it'll be a list with more than some announcements.
That's also the reason why the news@ list is completely moderated.

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Kostas Tzoumas <ktzou...@apache.org> wrote:

> I appreciate the concern Kanstantsin!
>
> We do have a news@ mailing list, but it has been under-utilized so far.
> Perhaps revamping that one would do it?
>
> My only concern is that subscribing to a new mailing list is an overhead.
> As a temp solution, we could cc the dev and user list in the first few
> (say, 3) threads and encourage folks in these threads to sign up for the
> news@ list.
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 10:07 AM, Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you for speaking up Kanstantsin. I really don't want to downgrade
>> the experience on the user@ list.
>>
>> I wonder if jobs@flink would be a too narrowly-scoped mailing list.
>> Maybe we could also start a community@flink (alternatively also general@)
>> mailing list for everything relating to the broader Flink community,
>> including job offers, meetups, conferences and everything else that is
>> important for the community to grow.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 3:10 AM, Radu Tudoran <radu.tudo...@huawei.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think the idea of having such a monthly thread is very good and it
>>> might even help to further attract new people in the community.
>>>
>>> In the same time I do not think that 1 extra mail per month is necessary
>>> a spam J
>>>
>>> In the same time – we can also consider a jobs@flink mailing list
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dr. Radu Tudoran
>>>
>>> Senior Research Engineer - Big Data Expert
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Registered Office: Düsseldorf, Register Court Düsseldorf, HRB 56063,
>>> Managing Director: Bo PENG, Wanzhou MENG, Lifang CHEN
>>> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Düsseldorf, Amtsgericht Düsseldorf, HRB 56063,
>>> Geschäftsführer: Bo PENG, Wanzhou MENG, Lifang CHEN
>>>
>>> This e-mail and its attachments contain confidential information from
>>> HUAWEI, which is intended only for the person or entity whose address is
>>> listed above. Any use of the information contained herein in any way
>>> (including, but not limited to, total or partial disclosure, reproduction,
>>> or dissemination) by persons other than the intended recipient(s) is
>>> prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender
>>> by phone or email immediately and delete it!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Kanstantsin Kamkou [mailto:kkam...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 07, 2016 9:57 PM
>>> *To:* user@flink.apache.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: [DISCUSS] "Who's hiring on Flink" monthly thread in the
>>> mailing lists?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is it possible to avoid such a spam here? If I need a new job, I could
>>> search it. The same way I might want to subscribe to a different thread,
>>> like jobs@flink. * The idea itself is great.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 at 14:04, Kostas Tzoumas <ktzou...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> yes, of course!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Márton Balassi <
>>> balassi.mar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> +1. It keeps it both organized and to a reasonable minimum overhead.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Would you volunteer for starting the mail thread each month then, Kostas?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Marton
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 6:42 AM, Kostas Tzoumas <ktzou...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd like to see how the community feels about a monthly "Who is hiring on
>>>
>>>
>>> Flink" email thread on the dev@ and user@ mailing lists where folks can
>>>
>>>
>>> post job positions related to Flink.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I personally think that posting individual job offerings in the mailing
>>>
>>>
>>> list is off-topic (hence I have refrained to do that wearing my company
>>>
>>>
>>> hat, and I have discouraged others when they asked for my opinion on
>>> this),
>>>
>>>
>>> but I thought that a monthly thread like this would be both helpful to
>>> the
>>>
>>>
>>> community and not cause overhead.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>> Kostas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] "Who's hiring on Flink" monthly thread in the mailing lists?

[Kostas Tzoumas]

I appreciate the concern Kanstantsin!

We do have a news@ mailing list, but it has been under-utilized so far.
Perhaps revamping that one would do it?

My only concern is that subscribing to a new mailing list is an overhead.
As a temp solution, we could cc the dev and user list in the first few
(say, 3) threads and encourage folks in these threads to sign up for the
news@ list.

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 10:07 AM, Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org> wrote:

> Thank you for speaking up Kanstantsin. I really don't want to downgrade
> the experience on the user@ list.
>
> I wonder if jobs@flink would be a too narrowly-scoped mailing list.
> Maybe we could also start a community@flink (alternatively also general@)
> mailing list for everything relating to the broader Flink community,
> including job offers, meetups, conferences and everything else that is
> important for the community to grow.
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 3:10 AM, Radu Tudoran <radu.tudo...@huawei.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> I think the idea of having such a monthly thread is very good and it
>> might even help to further attract new people in the community.
>>
>> In the same time I do not think that 1 extra mail per month is necessary
>> a spam J
>>
>> In the same time – we can also consider a jobs@flink mailing list
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr. Radu Tudoran
>>
>> Senior Research Engineer - Big Data Expert
>>
>> IT R Division
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: cid:image007.jpg@01CD52EB.AD060EE0]
>>
>> HUAWEI TECHNOLOGIES Duesseldorf GmbH
>>
>> European Research Center
>>
>> Riesstrasse 25, 80992 München
>>
>>
>>
>> E-mail: *radu.tudo...@huawei.com <radu.tudo...@huawei.com>*
>>
>> Mobile: +49 15209084330 <01520%209084330>
>>
>> Telephone: +49 891588344173 <089%201588344173>
>>
>>
>>
>> HUAWEI TECHNOLOGIES Duesseldorf GmbH
>> Hansaallee 205, 40549 Düsseldorf, Germany, www.huawei.com
>> Registered Office: Düsseldorf, Register Court Düsseldorf, HRB 56063,
>> Managing Director: Bo PENG, Wanzhou MENG, Lifang CHEN
>> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Düsseldorf, Amtsgericht Düsseldorf, HRB 56063,
>> Geschäftsführer: Bo PENG, Wanzhou MENG, Lifang CHEN
>>
>> This e-mail and its attachments contain confidential information from
>> HUAWEI, which is intended only for the person or entity whose address is
>> listed above. Any use of the information contained herein in any way
>> (including, but not limited to, total or partial disclosure, reproduction,
>> or dissemination) by persons other than the intended recipient(s) is
>> prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender
>> by phone or email immediately and delete it!
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Kanstantsin Kamkou [mailto:kkam...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 07, 2016 9:57 PM
>> *To:* user@flink.apache.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [DISCUSS] "Who's hiring on Flink" monthly thread in the
>> mailing lists?
>>
>>
>>
>> Is it possible to avoid such a spam here? If I need a new job, I could
>> search it. The same way I might want to subscribe to a different thread,
>> like jobs@flink. * The idea itself is great.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 at 14:04, Kostas Tzoumas <ktzou...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> yes, of course!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Márton Balassi <balassi.mar...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>> +1. It keeps it both organized and to a reasonable minimum overhead.
>>
>>
>>
>> Would you volunteer for starting the mail thread each month then, Kostas?
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>>
>> Marton
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 6:42 AM, Kostas Tzoumas <ktzou...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd like to see how the community feels about a monthly "Who is hiring on
>>
>>
>> Flink" email thread on the dev@ and user@ mailing lists where folks can
>>
>>
>> post job positions related to Flink.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I personally think that posting individual job offerings in the mailing
>>
>>
>> list is off-topic (hence I have refrained to do that wearing my company
>>
>>
>> hat, and I have discouraged others when they asked for my opinion on
>> this),
>>
>>
>> but I thought that a monthly thread like this would be both helpful to the
>>
>>
>> community and not cause overhead.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> Kostas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] "Who's hiring on Flink" monthly thread in the mailing lists?

[Robert Metzger]

Thank you for speaking up Kanstantsin. I really don't want to downgrade the
experience on the user@ list.

I wonder if jobs@flink would be a too narrowly-scoped mailing list.
Maybe we could also start a community@flink (alternatively also general@)
mailing list for everything relating to the broader Flink community,
including job offers, meetups, conferences and everything else that is
important for the community to grow.

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 3:10 AM, Radu Tudoran <radu.tudo...@huawei.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> I think the idea of having such a monthly thread is very good and it might
> even help to further attract new people in the community.
>
> In the same time I do not think that 1 extra mail per month is necessary a
> spam J
>
> In the same time – we can also consider a jobs@flink mailing list
>
>
>
>
>
> Dr. Radu Tudoran
>
> Senior Research Engineer - Big Data Expert
>
> IT R Division
>
>
>
> [image: cid:image007.jpg@01CD52EB.AD060EE0]
>
> HUAWEI TECHNOLOGIES Duesseldorf GmbH
>
> European Research Center
>
> Riesstrasse 25, 80992 München
>
>
>
> E-mail: *radu.tudo...@huawei.com <radu.tudo...@huawei.com>*
>
> Mobile: +49 15209084330 <01520%209084330>
>
> Telephone: +49 891588344173 <089%201588344173>
>
>
>
> HUAWEI TECHNOLOGIES Duesseldorf GmbH
> Hansaallee 205, 40549 Düsseldorf, Germany, www.huawei.com
> Registered Office: Düsseldorf, Register Court Düsseldorf, HRB 56063,
> Managing Director: Bo PENG, Wanzhou MENG, Lifang CHEN
> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Düsseldorf, Amtsgericht Düsseldorf, HRB 56063,
> Geschäftsführer: Bo PENG, Wanzhou MENG, Lifang CHEN
>
> This e-mail and its attachments contain confidential information from
> HUAWEI, which is intended only for the person or entity whose address is
> listed above. Any use of the information contained herein in any way
> (including, but not limited to, total or partial disclosure, reproduction,
> or dissemination) by persons other than the intended recipient(s) is
> prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender
> by phone or email immediately and delete it!
>
>
>
> *From:* Kanstantsin Kamkou [mailto:kkam...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 07, 2016 9:57 PM
> *To:* user@flink.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: [DISCUSS] "Who's hiring on Flink" monthly thread in the
> mailing lists?
>
>
>
> Is it possible to avoid such a spam here? If I need a new job, I could
> search it. The same way I might want to subscribe to a different thread,
> like jobs@flink. * The idea itself is great.
>
>
>
> On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 at 14:04, Kostas Tzoumas <ktzou...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> yes, of course!
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Márton Balassi <balassi.mar...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> +1. It keeps it both organized and to a reasonable minimum overhead.
>
>
>
> Would you volunteer for starting the mail thread each month then, Kostas?
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Marton
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 6:42 AM, Kostas Tzoumas <ktzou...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
>
>
>
>
> I'd like to see how the community feels about a monthly "Who is hiring on
>
>
> Flink" email thread on the dev@ and user@ mailing lists where folks can
>
>
> post job positions related to Flink.
>
>
>
>
>
> I personally think that posting individual job offerings in the mailing
>
>
> list is off-topic (hence I have refrained to do that wearing my company
>
>
> hat, and I have discouraged others when they asked for my opinion on this),
>
>
> but I thought that a monthly thread like this would be both helpful to the
>
>
> community and not cause overhead.
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Kostas
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

RE: [DISCUSS] "Who's hiring on Flink" monthly thread in the mailing lists?

[Radu Tudoran]

Hi,

I think the idea of having such a monthly thread is very good and it might even 
help to further attract new people in the community.
In the same time I do not think that 1 extra mail per month is necessary a spam 
☺
In the same time – we can also consider a jobs@flink mailing list


Dr. Radu Tudoran
Senior Research Engineer - Big Data Expert
IT R Division

[cid:image007.jpg@01CD52EB.AD060EE0]
HUAWEI TECHNOLOGIES Duesseldorf GmbH
European Research Center
Riesstrasse 25, 80992 München

E-mail: radu.tudo...@huawei.com<mailto:radu.tudo...@huawei.com>
Mobile: +49 15209084330
Telephone: +49 891588344173

HUAWEI TECHNOLOGIES Duesseldorf GmbH
Hansaallee 205, 40549 Düsseldorf, Germany, 
www.huawei.com<http://www.huawei.com/>
Registered Office: Düsseldorf, Register Court Düsseldorf, HRB 56063,
Managing Director: Bo PENG, Wanzhou MENG, Lifang CHEN
Sitz der Gesellschaft: Düsseldorf, Amtsgericht Düsseldorf, HRB 56063,
Geschäftsführer: Bo PENG, Wanzhou MENG, Lifang CHEN
This e-mail and its attachments contain confidential information from HUAWEI, 
which is intended only for the person or entity whose address is listed above. 
Any use of the information contained herein in any way (including, but not 
limited to, total or partial disclosure, reproduction, or dissemination) by 
persons other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited. If you receive this 
e-mail in error, please notify the sender by phone or email immediately and 
delete it!

From: Kanstantsin Kamkou [mailto:kkam...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 9:57 PM
To: user@flink.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] "Who's hiring on Flink" monthly thread in the mailing 
lists?

Is it possible to avoid such a spam here? If I need a new job, I could search 
it. The same way I might want to subscribe to a different thread, like 
jobs@flink. * The idea itself is great.

On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 at 14:04, Kostas Tzoumas 
<ktzou...@apache.org<mailto:ktzou...@apache.org>> wrote:
yes, of course!

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Márton Balassi 
<balassi.mar...@gmail.com<mailto:balassi.mar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
+1. It keeps it both organized and to a reasonable minimum overhead.

Would you volunteer for starting the mail thread each month then, Kostas?

Best,

Marton

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 6:42 AM, Kostas Tzoumas 
<ktzou...@apache.org<mailto:ktzou...@apache.org>> wrote:
Hi folks,





I'd like to see how the community feels about a monthly "Who is hiring on


Flink" email thread on the dev@ and user@ mailing lists where folks can


post job positions related to Flink.





I personally think that posting individual job offerings in the mailing


list is off-topic (hence I have refrained to do that wearing my company


hat, and I have discouraged others when they asked for my opinion on this),


but I thought that a monthly thread like this would be both helpful to the


community and not cause overhead.





Cheers,


Kostas

Re: [DISCUSS] "Who's hiring on Flink" monthly thread in the mailing lists?

[Kanstantsin Kamkou]

Is it possible to avoid such a spam here? If I need a new job, I could
search it. The same way I might want to subscribe to a different thread,
like jobs@flink. * The idea itself is great.

On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 at 14:04, Kostas Tzoumas  wrote:

> yes, of course!
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Márton Balassi 
> wrote:
>
> +1. It keeps it both organized and to a reasonable minimum overhead.
>
> Would you volunteer for starting the mail thread each month then, Kostas?
>
> Best,
>
> Marton
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 6:42 AM, Kostas Tzoumas 
> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
>
>
>
>
> I'd like to see how the community feels about a monthly "Who is hiring on
>
>
> Flink" email thread on the dev@ and user@ mailing lists where folks can
>
>
> post job positions related to Flink.
>
>
>
>
>
> I personally think that posting individual job offerings in the mailing
>
>
> list is off-topic (hence I have refrained to do that wearing my company
>
>
> hat, and I have discouraged others when they asked for my opinion on this),
>
>
> but I thought that a monthly thread like this would be both helpful to the
>
>
> community and not cause overhead.
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Kostas
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] "Who's hiring on Flink" monthly thread in the mailing lists?

[Kostas Tzoumas]

yes, of course!

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Márton Balassi 
wrote:

> +1. It keeps it both organized and to a reasonable minimum overhead.
>
> Would you volunteer for starting the mail thread each month then, Kostas?
>
> Best,
>
> Marton
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 6:42 AM, Kostas Tzoumas 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I'd like to see how the community feels about a monthly "Who is hiring on
>> Flink" email thread on the dev@ and user@ mailing lists where folks can
>> post job positions related to Flink.
>>
>> I personally think that posting individual job offerings in the mailing
>> list is off-topic (hence I have refrained to do that wearing my company
>> hat, and I have discouraged others when they asked for my opinion on
>> this),
>> but I thought that a monthly thread like this would be both helpful to the
>> community and not cause overhead.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kostas
>>
>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] "Who's hiring on Flink" monthly thread in the mailing lists?

[Márton Balassi]

+1. It keeps it both organized and to a reasonable minimum overhead.

Would you volunteer for starting the mail thread each month then, Kostas?

Best,

Marton

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 6:42 AM, Kostas Tzoumas  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I'd like to see how the community feels about a monthly "Who is hiring on
> Flink" email thread on the dev@ and user@ mailing lists where folks can
> post job positions related to Flink.
>
> I personally think that posting individual job offerings in the mailing
> list is off-topic (hence I have refrained to do that wearing my company
> hat, and I have discouraged others when they asked for my opinion on this),
> but I thought that a monthly thread like this would be both helpful to the
> community and not cause overhead.
>
> Cheers,
> Kostas
>

[DISCUSS] "Who's hiring on Flink" monthly thread in the mailing lists?

[Kostas Tzoumas]

Hi folks,

I'd like to see how the community feels about a monthly "Who is hiring on
Flink" email thread on the dev@ and user@ mailing lists where folks can
post job positions related to Flink.

I personally think that posting individual job offerings in the mailing
list is off-topic (hence I have refrained to do that wearing my company
hat, and I have discouraged others when they asked for my opinion on this),
but I thought that a monthly thread like this would be both helpful to the
community and not cause overhead.

Cheers,
Kostas