RE: simplified docbook plugin (Was: Forrest run works but forrest doesn't)

2005-08-02 Thread Phillip Evans
OK, here is the process I followed and the issues that I have found while
getting forrest to work with sdocbook.

I edited forrest.properties to include the sdocbook plugin and the Open
Office plugin.
I put a (validated) sdocbook file and an Open Office document into 'sample'
directory of a freshly seeded site. (I also added some sdocbook files to a
'manuals' subdirectory of 'sample')
I edited site.xml to give LH Navigation to these documents.
I ran 'forrest' to build a static site. The build was unsuccessful due to
some broken links.
I downloaded plugin.xml from forrest.apache.org into the plugins directory
as the build said that file was missing. (It took me a while to figure that
out) I then got a successful build.
The Open Office document converted OK,(except for images) but the sdocbook
page had only the header and LH Navigation, no content. The build listing
shows all plugins being available and mounts them.

Following the documentation from V5.2. How do I use DocBook as the xml
documentation format? as best as I was able with my limited knowledge, I
made the following changes to sitemap.xmap in src/documentation/ :

I added the following
--
sourcetype name=sdocbook
document-declaration public-id=-//OASIS//DTD Simplified
DocBook XML V1.1//EN /
/sourcetype
--

After this existing section:
--
map:when test=hello-v1.0
map:generate src={project:content.xdocs}{../../1}.xml /
map:transform
src={project:resources.stylesheets}/hello2document.xsl /
map:serialize type=xml-document/
  /map:when
--
I added this:
--
  map:when test=sdocbook
map:generate src={project:content.xdocs}{../../1}.xml /
map:transform
src={project:resources.stylesheets}/sdocbook2document.xsl /
map:serialize type=xml-document/
  /map:when
--
And I added this section:
--
map:match pattern=**manuals/**.xml
map:generate src={project:content.xdocs}{1}manuals/{2}.xml /
map:act type=sourcetype
src={project:content.xdocs}{1}manuals/{2}.xml
 map:select type=parameter
  map:parameter name=parameter-selector-test value={sourcetype} /
  map:when test=sdocbook
   map:transform
  src={project:resources.stylesheets}/sdocbook2document.xsl /
  /map:when
 /map:select
/map:act
map:serialize type=xml/
   /map:match
--
After which everything worked. I had presumed that just declaring the
sdocbook plugin would do the trick. I needed to move sdocbook2document.xsl
because of the map:transform src= declaration I added above.

Then I went back and commented out the bits I added, one at a time, and did
a fresh build each time. The match pattern section made no difference but
the sdocbook files were not built if either the source type or map generate
sections were left out. I presume the sdocbook plugin should modify this
file or override it somehow?

Perhaps my next exercise should be to do a reinstall of forrest and see if
this is repeatable. I would love to find out that there is an easier way.

Phil

Ps Just had a thought. I downloaded the plugins manually before modifying
forrest.properties, rather than letting forrest get them automatically when
needed. Perhaps that has affected the installation of the plugins?

-Original Message-
From: David Crossley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 8:22 PM
To: user@forrest.apache.org
Subject: simplified docbook plugin (Was: Forrest run works but forrest
doesn't)



 It would skin blank pages until I moved that file.
 Is this due to a configuration error on my part?

Sorry i don't understand what you mean.
Have you declared the simplifiedDocbook plugin in your forrest.properties
file?



David

 Anyway, thank you for your assistance
 
 Phil
 




RE: simplified docbook plugin (Was: Forrest run works but forrest doesn't)

2005-08-02 Thread Phillip Evans
Ross,

Thanks for your time on this. I have done as you outlined. After running
forrest site in testSDocbook directory I again got the message in the
console:

BROKEN: C:\apachefriends\xampp\htdocs\apache-forrest-0.7\plugins\plugins.xml
The system cannot find the file specified 

However all the plugins appeared to be retrieved and configured as you
describe.

I checked the distribution zip file for forrest and found that
\apache-forrest-0.7\plugins\plugins.xml was present, so copied it to where
it should have been in my installation. I re-ran forrest site without
problems.

I then ran forrest run in:
FORREST_HOME/build/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.input.simplifiedDocbook
without problems, and could view sdocbook.html and .pdf

I then tried adding one of my own sdocbook documents, and again had the
problem of no content. I checked out input.xmap, and found that it had a
sourcetype of sdocbook-v1.0, whereas my documents are all sdocbook-v1.1

I assigned sdocbook-v1.0 to a couple of my documents, and they worked fine.

I suppose it is possible to modify input.xmap so that will accept
sdocbook-v1.1 as well?

Where should that be done?

It may have been that downloading the plugins manually meant that they were
not installed correctly. Might I suggest that on the initial plugins page on
forrest.apache.org that a indication be placed above the download section
that this is normally done automatically by forrest, rather than having to
follow a link to a second page to find this out.

Still, I have learned heaps more than I would have if it had all gone
smoothly, as it obviously does if done right. Next time, read the
instructions, Phillip, read the instructions.

Now to try out the testSDocbook site with some of my documents.

Thanks again, Ross.

I am using forrest-0.7

-Original Message-
From: Ross Gardler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 2:53 AM
To: user@forrest.apache.org
Subject: Re: simplified docbook plugin (Was: Forrest run works but forrest
doesn't)

Phillip Evans wrote:
 OK, here is the process I followed and the issues that I have found 
 while getting forrest to work with sdocbook.


Once we have verified that this works (or debugged why it doesn't work)
we'll get your sdocbook files working in the new sample site we did.

Ross






Re: simplified docbook plugin (Was: Forrest run works but forrest doesn't)

2005-08-02 Thread Ross Gardler

Phillip Evans wrote:

It would really help if you make your replies inline as I am doing here. 
If someone This keeps the context of our discussion so that I can 
remember exactly what we are doing. I write many mails every day and I 
have a short memory ;-)


It also helps make the archives much more readable, that is if a new 
user has the same problem as you and comes to this mail in the archives 
they will see a dialog that describes how to diagnose their problem 
rather than a summary that you discovered the solution.



Thanks for your time on this. I have done as you outlined. After running
forrest site in testSDocbook directory I again got the message in the
console:

BROKEN: C:\apachefriends\xampp\htdocs\apache-forrest-0.7\plugins\plugins.xml
The system cannot find the file specified 



However all the plugins appeared to be retrieved and configured as you
describe.


Yes the plugin download mechanism doesn't use a local copy of the file 
(neither does the docs build anymore, thanks to your report above).



I checked the distribution zip file for forrest and found that
\apache-forrest-0.7\plugins\plugins.xml was present, so copied it to where
it should have been in my installation. I re-ran forrest site without
problems.


How can it have been present in the distribution but not in your 
installation? Is it safe for me to assume that this is a problem local 
to you rather than in the distribution.



I then ran forrest run in:
FORREST_HOME/build/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.input.simplifiedDocbook
without problems, and could view sdocbook.html and .pdf

I then tried adding one of my own sdocbook documents, and again had the
problem of no content. I checked out input.xmap, and found that it had a
sourcetype of sdocbook-v1.0, whereas my documents are all sdocbook-v1.1

I assigned sdocbook-v1.0 to a couple of my documents, and they worked fine.

I suppose it is possible to modify input.xmap so that will accept
sdocbook-v1.1 as well?

Where should that be done?


I've updated the plugin for version 4.1.2.5 of the plugin but there 
isn't a released 1.1 version that I can see ( 
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/simple/ ). What is the public 
identifier you are using?


Once I know what we need to add I'll update the plugin. If you want to 
do this yourself (and supply a patch please) then take a look at 
input.xmap The supported DTD's are listed at the top of the file and you 
will need to add a matcher later in the file, it is pretty much a cut 
and past job.



Might I suggest that on the initial plugins page on
forrest.apache.org that a indication be placed above the download section
that this is normally done automatically by forrest, rather than having to
follow a link to a second page to find this out.


I've added a two sentence description on how to install plugins to the 
page as you suggest, it will appear on the site next time we update.



Still, I have learned heaps more than I would have if it had all gone
smoothly, as it obviously does if done right. Next time, read the
instructions, Phillip, read the instructions.


:-))

Ross


RE: simplified docbook plugin (Was: Forrest run works but forrest doesn't)

2005-08-02 Thread Phillip Evans
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Ross Gardler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 3:06 PM
 To: user@forrest.apache.org
 Subject: Re: simplified docbook plugin (Was: Forrest run 
 works but forrest doesn't)
 
 Phillip Evans wrote:
 
 
  Thanks for your time on this. I have done as you outlined. After 
  running forrest site in testSDocbook directory I again got 
 the message 
  in the
  console:
  
  BROKEN: 
  C:\apachefriends\xampp\htdocs\apache-forrest-0.7\plugins\plugins.xml
  The system cannot find the file specified
  
  However all the plugins appeared to be retrieved and 
 configured as you 
  describe.
 
 Yes the plugin download mechanism doesn't use a local copy of 
 the file (neither does the docs build anymore, thanks to your 
 report above).
 
  I checked the distribution zip file for forrest and found that 
  \apache-forrest-0.7\plugins\plugins.xml was present, so 
 copied it to 
  where it should have been in my installation. I re-ran forrest site 
  without problems.
 
 How can it have been present in the distribution but not in 
 your installation? Is it safe for me to assume that this is a 
 problem local to you rather than in the distribution.

Yes, safe to assume that. I have no explanation for it not being there in
the installation, but a local problem, yes.

  I then ran forrest run in:
  
 FORREST_HOME/build/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.input.simplifiedD
  ocbook without problems, and could view sdocbook.html and .pdf
  
  I then tried adding one of my own sdocbook documents, and again had 
  the problem of no content. I checked out input.xmap, and 
 found that it 
  had a sourcetype of sdocbook-v1.0, whereas my documents are all 
  sdocbook-v1.1
  
  I assigned sdocbook-v1.0 to a couple of my documents, and 
 they worked fine.
  
  I suppose it is possible to modify input.xmap so that will accept
  sdocbook-v1.1 as well?
  
  Where should that be done?
 
 I've updated the plugin for version 4.1.2.5 of the plugin but 
 there isn't a released 1.1 version that I can see ( 
 http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/simple/ ). What is the 
 public identifier you are using?

I've been using a version from docbook.org which although it says it is
available at Oasis, actually isn't. It looks like I've mixed up the public
identifier in the following.

!DOCTYPE article PUBLIC -//OASIS//DTD Simplified DocBook XML V1.1//EN
  http://docbook.org/xml/simple/1.1/sdocbook.dtd;

Perhaps I should revert to v1.0 for my documents?

 
 Once I know what we need to add I'll update the plugin. If 
 you want to do this yourself (and supply a patch please) then 
 take a look at input.xmap The supported DTD's are listed at 
 the top of the file and you will need to add a matcher later 
 in the file, it is pretty much a cut and past job.


Phil