RE: How to control variable substitution in JMeter?

2014-03-14 Thread Keith . Cassell
Sebb,

I've been arguing with myself about what the proper behavior of the variable 
substitution feature should be, and I think I am now agreeing with you and 
Shmuel.

I think my problem is mostly a matter of variable scoping, that is, variables 
should generally be defined such that they are in scope only where they are 
needed.  In our naive implementation, we had too many variables at a global 
scope.

There is still the problem of substituting the correct variable into the 
correct place in the recorded text; however, I can't think of a simple, 
effective algorithm that can determine how to do so.  The regex matching isn't 
ideal, but it does help for the majority of simple cases.

Thanks to you and Shmuel for your help!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:44 PM
 To: JMeter Users List
 Subject: Re: How to control variable substitution in JMeter?
 
 On 12 March 2014 16:03, Shmuel Krakower shmul...@gmail.com wrote:
  Why making this complex? Just have a dedicated UDV element for such
  correlation/replacement, while during recordings, disable the others
  you don't wanna use.
 
 Good advice.
 
 You can have multiple UDV elements.
 Disable the ones that don't apply to recording.
 
 Also, by using the Regex Matching option you can force the matching to
 use word-boundaries and even use REs to control the matching.
 This is all described here:
 
 http://jmeter.apache.org/usermanual/component_reference.html#HTTP%28S%2
 9_Test_Script_Recorder
 
  Shmuel Krakower.
  www.Beatsoo.org - re-use your jmeter scripts for application
  performance monitoring from worldwide locations for free.
 
 
  On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Robin D. Wilson rwils...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  I've noticed this too. Sounds like a feature request.
 
  Basically, some way to designate which variables can be used for
  substitution when using the recording controller. Perhaps just a
  list.
 
  --
  Robin D. Wilson
  Sr. Director of Web Development
  KingsIsle Entertainment, Inc.
  VOICE: 512-777-1861
  http://www.kingsisle.com
 
  -Original Message-
  From: keith.cass...@engilitycorp.com [mailto:
  keith.cass...@engilitycorp.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:09 AM
  To: user@jmeter.apache.org
  Subject: How to control variable substitution in JMeter?
 
  I have some user defined variables:
 
  SERVER_NAME  myhost.com
  THE_HTTP_PROTOCOLHTTP
  USER_COUNT   1
  LOOP_COUNT   2
 
  Then, I use a Recording Controller to capture my browser actions.
  Unfortunately,
  JMeter does more variable substitution than I'd like it to. For
  example, it substitutes ${LOOP_COUNT} into a web site name that
  contains 2, e.g., /host${LOOP_COUNT}/somePage. My favorite
  example of over-zealous variable substitution is my
 ${THE_${THE_HTTP_PROTOCOL}_PROTOCOL} Header Manager.
 
  Is it possible to make the recording more selective about what
  variables can be used for substitution? For example, of the
 variables
  I've listed, I'd really only like SERVER_NAME to be substituted in.
 
  I'm using JMeter 2.11.
  


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Re: How to control variable substitution in JMeter?

2014-03-14 Thread sebb
On 14 March 2014 12:09,  keith.cass...@engilitycorp.com wrote:
 Sebb,

 I've been arguing with myself about what the proper behavior of the variable 
 substitution feature should be, and I think I am now agreeing with you and 
 Shmuel.

 I think my problem is mostly a matter of variable scoping, that is, variables 
 should generally be defined such that they are in scope only where they are 
 needed.  In our naive implementation, we had too many variables at a global 
 scope.

You could still keep the global scope, but split the variables into
mulitple UDVs.
Temporarily disable the UDVs that you don't want to be considered for
use as replacements during recording.

 There is still the problem of substituting the correct variable into the 
 correct place in the recorded text; however, I can't think of a simple, 
 effective algorithm that can determine how to do so.  The regex matching 
 isn't ideal, but it does help for the majority of simple cases.

Selecting Regex Matching automatically wraps the match string with \b
so that it will only match on word boundaries.
This should help reduce unwanted matches.

 Thanks to you and Shmuel for your help!

 -Original Message-
 From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:44 PM
 To: JMeter Users List
 Subject: Re: How to control variable substitution in JMeter?

 On 12 March 2014 16:03, Shmuel Krakower shmul...@gmail.com wrote:
  Why making this complex? Just have a dedicated UDV element for such
  correlation/replacement, while during recordings, disable the others
  you don't wanna use.

 Good advice.

 You can have multiple UDV elements.
 Disable the ones that don't apply to recording.

 Also, by using the Regex Matching option you can force the matching to
 use word-boundaries and even use REs to control the matching.
 This is all described here:

 http://jmeter.apache.org/usermanual/component_reference.html#HTTP%28S%2
 9_Test_Script_Recorder

  Shmuel Krakower.
  www.Beatsoo.org - re-use your jmeter scripts for application
  performance monitoring from worldwide locations for free.
 
 
  On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Robin D. Wilson rwils...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  I've noticed this too. Sounds like a feature request.
 
  Basically, some way to designate which variables can be used for
  substitution when using the recording controller. Perhaps just a
  list.
 
  --
  Robin D. Wilson
  Sr. Director of Web Development
  KingsIsle Entertainment, Inc.
  VOICE: 512-777-1861
  http://www.kingsisle.com
 
  -Original Message-
  From: keith.cass...@engilitycorp.com [mailto:
  keith.cass...@engilitycorp.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:09 AM
  To: user@jmeter.apache.org
  Subject: How to control variable substitution in JMeter?
 
  I have some user defined variables:
 
  SERVER_NAME  myhost.com
  THE_HTTP_PROTOCOLHTTP
  USER_COUNT   1
  LOOP_COUNT   2
 
  Then, I use a Recording Controller to capture my browser actions.
  Unfortunately,
  JMeter does more variable substitution than I'd like it to. For
  example, it substitutes ${LOOP_COUNT} into a web site name that
  contains 2, e.g., /host${LOOP_COUNT}/somePage. My favorite
  example of over-zealous variable substitution is my
 ${THE_${THE_HTTP_PROTOCOL}_PROTOCOL} Header Manager.
 
  Is it possible to make the recording more selective about what
  variables can be used for substitution? For example, of the
 variables
  I've listed, I'd really only like SERVER_NAME to be substituted in.
 
  I'm using JMeter 2.11.
 


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Exclude URL Patterns

2014-03-14 Thread Ankit Sethiya
Hello,

My question is what is the real reason behind excluding .css/.js/third
party files while recording the script through proxy? Don't these files
effect the performance of site?

Please let me know.

Thanks

Ankit Sethiya

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Los Angeles, CA
626.202.5415


Re: Exclude URL Patterns

2014-03-14 Thread sebb
On 14 March 2014 19:20, Ankit Sethiya ankit.seth...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 My question is what is the real reason behind excluding .css/.js/third
 party files while recording the script through proxy?

Because these are normally auto downloaded when processing the main sample.

 Don't these files
 effect the performance of site?

Yes.

 Please let me know.

 Thanks

 Ankit Sethiya

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 Los Angeles, CA
 626.202.5415

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Playing back PUT HTTP requests with binary content

2014-03-14 Thread Liviu Nicoara
I am using JMeter to record PUT HTTP requests made to a server, where the 
content of the request is unencoded, raw JPEG (or MP4). I have noticed that the 
data in the played back requests is altered, and LF are changed to CRLF, by 
comparing the traffic captured with Wireshark.

I think the content-type of the request is correctly indicated as image/jpeg or 
video/mp4 in the original requests. 

Is there a way to both record the original traffic verbatim and play it back as 
such? It is very possible I am not using the tool properly and any help or 
hints are much appreciated.

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Re: Playing back PUT HTTP requests with binary content

2014-03-14 Thread sebb
On 14 March 2014 19:33, Liviu Nicoara nikko...@hates.ms wrote:
 I am using JMeter to record PUT HTTP requests made to a server, where the 
 content of the request is unencoded, raw JPEG (or MP4). I have noticed that 
 the data in the played back requests is altered, and LF are changed to CRLF, 
 by comparing the traffic captured with Wireshark.

 I think the content-type of the request is correctly indicated as image/jpeg 
 or video/mp4 in the original requests.

 Is there a way to both record the original traffic verbatim and play it back 
 as such? It is very possible I am not using the tool properly and any help or 
 hints are much appreciated.

Which version of JMeter are you using?

 Thanks!
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Re: Exclude URL Patterns

2014-03-14 Thread Flavio Cysne
Sometimes your site uses resources from another domain or domains and you
don't want your intranet in a black list.


RE: Exclude URL Patterns

2014-03-14 Thread Robin D. Wilson
There are a couple of reasons:

1) If you site uses a CDN (Content Data Network - or Edge Servers such as
Akamai, Limelight, etc.), the performance of these files will not be something
that you directly control in your network - so testing their performance may
skew your test results. Moreover, trying to run performance tests against their
system will have 2 deleterious effects: 1) introduce an external system to your
testing which can adversely affect your test reliability; and 2) run up your
costs by making a lot of requests through your testing system to the CDN (eating
up the bandwidth you are paying for).

2) If your pages include assets (images, sounds, flash files, CSS, JS, etc.)
from third-party sites, you have the same problem as above - fetching those
during your testing can adversely affect your testing, and give you erroneous
problems to chase down - because you have no control over the performance of
those external sites. Moreover, hitting those sites with a significant
performance test could really piss off those third-parties.

(For example, our marketing department once included a JavaScript widget loaded
from a third-party site - that they found by googling. They included that in
content without telling us. The third-party site was some guy's blog, and I'm
sure they didn't expect to have 1M plus hits per day coming from our users. If I
had fired up a big performance test against that site (in addition to our users
just pounding on it from normal use), I'm sure that guy would have freaked out.)

--
Robin D. Wilson
Sr. Director of Web Development
KingsIsle Entertainment, Inc.
VOICE: 512-777-1861
http://www.kingsisle.com

-Original Message-
From: Ankit Sethiya [mailto:ankit.seth...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 2:21 PM
To: user@jmeter.apache.org
Subject: Exclude URL Patterns

Hello,

My question is what is the real reason behind excluding .css/.js/third party
files while recording the script through proxy? Don't these files effect the
performance of site?

Please let me know.

Thanks

Ankit Sethiya

--
Software Quality Analyst
Los Angeles, CA
626.202.5415


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Re: Exclude URL Patterns

2014-03-14 Thread Ankit Sethiya
Got it.

Thank you very much to all for your quick response. I appreciate your time.

Ankit Sethiya


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Robin D. Wilson rwils...@gmail.com wrote:

 There are a couple of reasons:

 1) If you site uses a CDN (Content Data Network - or Edge Servers such
 as
 Akamai, Limelight, etc.), the performance of these files will not be
 something
 that you directly control in your network - so testing their performance
 may
 skew your test results. Moreover, trying to run performance tests against
 their
 system will have 2 deleterious effects: 1) introduce an external system to
 your
 testing which can adversely affect your test reliability; and 2) run up
 your
 costs by making a lot of requests through your testing system to the CDN
 (eating
 up the bandwidth you are paying for).

 2) If your pages include assets (images, sounds, flash files, CSS, JS,
 etc.)
 from third-party sites, you have the same problem as above - fetching those
 during your testing can adversely affect your testing, and give you
 erroneous
 problems to chase down - because you have no control over the performance
 of
 those external sites. Moreover, hitting those sites with a significant
 performance test could really piss off those third-parties.

 (For example, our marketing department once included a JavaScript widget
 loaded
 from a third-party site - that they found by googling. They included that
 in
 content without telling us. The third-party site was some guy's blog, and
 I'm
 sure they didn't expect to have 1M plus hits per day coming from our
 users. If I
 had fired up a big performance test against that site (in addition to our
 users
 just pounding on it from normal use), I'm sure that guy would have freaked
 out.)

 --
 Robin D. Wilson
 Sr. Director of Web Development
 KingsIsle Entertainment, Inc.
 VOICE: 512-777-1861
 http://www.kingsisle.com

 -Original Message-
 From: Ankit Sethiya [mailto:ankit.seth...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 2:21 PM
 To: user@jmeter.apache.org
 Subject: Exclude URL Patterns

 Hello,

 My question is what is the real reason behind excluding .css/.js/third
 party
 files while recording the script through proxy? Don't these files effect
 the
 performance of site?

 Please let me know.

 Thanks

 Ankit Sethiya

 --
 Software Quality Analyst
 Los Angeles, CA
 626.202.5415


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Re: Playing back PUT HTTP requests with binary content

2014-03-14 Thread nikkoara

On Mar 14, 2014, at 3:45 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 14 March 2014 19:33, Liviu Nicoara nikko...@hates.ms wrote:
 I am using JMeter to record PUT HTTP requests made to a server, where the 
 content of the request is unencoded, raw JPEG (or MP4). I have noticed that 
 the data in the played back requests is altered, and LF are changed to CRLF, 
 by comparing the traffic captured with Wireshark.
 ...
 Is there a way to both record the original traffic verbatim and play it back 
 as such? It is very possible I am not using the tool properly and any help 
 or hints are much appreciated.
 
 Which version of JMeter are you using?
 

I downloaded it three days ago. I presume the latest version available on the 
website. I don’t have my other laptop with me now to precisely identify the 
version.




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