Re: Karaf cellar question about bundle distribution

2012-06-27 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré

Hi Romain,

Cellar supports both features and bundles sharing by leveraging 
Hazelcast. However, the features and bundles itself are not stored in 
the data grid, it's the information relative to the bundles/features 
(location, state, etc).


The features/bundles are still resolved on a Maven repository, Cellar 
sync the installation order to the different node.


If you are looking for more a repository, it's the purpose of Karaf Cave.

I think that storing the bundles/features themself in the grid could be 
very painful, especially depending the network available between the 
nodes, etc.


Regards
JB

On 06/27/2012 05:38 PM, Romain Gilles wrote:

Hi folks,
I would like to know why the Hazelcast data grid is not used to share
the features / bundle?
It seems that you can use an OBR based solution or a distribution
provisioning solution.
Is there any constraints like memory usage... to prune datagrid as a
bundle repository?

Romain.


--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com




Re: Karaf cellar question about bundle distribution

2012-06-27 Thread Romain Gilles
Ok,
Thank you for your answer. I'm understand your point of view. What I see by
storing the bundles them self within the data grid is that could reduce the
amount of configuration. Because cellar is a amazing in term of zero
configuration overhead in simple topology (I didn't test it in complex) and
integration with karaf philosophy.

Romain.

2012/6/27 Jean-Baptiste Onofré j...@nanthrax.net

 Hi Romain,

 Cellar supports both features and bundles sharing by leveraging
 Hazelcast. However, the features and bundles itself are not stored in the
 data grid, it's the information relative to the bundles/features (location,
 state, etc).

 The features/bundles are still resolved on a Maven repository, Cellar sync
 the installation order to the different node.

 If you are looking for more a repository, it's the purpose of Karaf Cave.

 I think that storing the bundles/features themself in the grid could be
 very painful, especially depending the network available between the nodes,
 etc.

 Regards
 JB


 On 06/27/2012 05:38 PM, Romain Gilles wrote:

 Hi folks,
 I would like to know why the Hazelcast data grid is not used to share
 the features / bundle?
 It seems that you can use an OBR based solution or a distribution
 provisioning solution.
 Is there any constraints like memory usage... to prune datagrid as a
 bundle repository?

 Romain.


 --
 Jean-Baptiste Onofré
 jbono...@apache.org
 http://blog.nanthrax.net
 Talend - http://www.talend.com





Re: Karaf cellar question about bundle distribution

2012-06-27 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré

Hi Romain,

got your point, and it's a key feature in Cellar (easy to use, quick to 
setup, etc).

I think it could be interesting to have a Cellar storage in the Cave.

Regards
JB

On 06/27/2012 09:41 PM, Romain Gilles wrote:

Ok,
Thank you for your answer. I'm understand your point of view. What I see
by storing the bundles them self within the data grid is that could
reduce the amount of configuration. Because cellar is a amazing in term
of zero configuration overhead in simple topology (I didn't test it in
complex) and integration with karaf philosophy.

Romain.

2012/6/27 Jean-Baptiste Onofré j...@nanthrax.net mailto:j...@nanthrax.net

Hi Romain,

Cellar supports both features and bundles sharing by leveraging
Hazelcast. However, the features and bundles itself are not stored
in the data grid, it's the information relative to the
bundles/features (location, state, etc).

The features/bundles are still resolved on a Maven repository,
Cellar sync the installation order to the different node.

If you are looking for more a repository, it's the purpose of Karaf
Cave.

I think that storing the bundles/features themself in the grid could
be very painful, especially depending the network available between
the nodes, etc.

Regards
JB


On 06/27/2012 05:38 PM, Romain Gilles wrote:

Hi folks,
I would like to know why the Hazelcast data grid is not used to
share
the features / bundle?
It seems that you can use an OBR based solution or a distribution
provisioning solution.
Is there any constraints like memory usage... to prune datagrid as a
bundle repository?

Romain.


--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org mailto:jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com





--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com




Re: Karaf cellar question about bundle distribution

2012-06-27 Thread Romain Gilles
Yes It sounds good :)

2012/6/27 Jean-Baptiste Onofré j...@nanthrax.net

 Hi Romain,

 got your point, and it's a key feature in Cellar (easy to use, quick to
 setup, etc).
 I think it could be interesting to have a Cellar storage in the Cave.

 Regards
 JB


 On 06/27/2012 09:41 PM, Romain Gilles wrote:

 Ok,
 Thank you for your answer. I'm understand your point of view. What I see
 by storing the bundles them self within the data grid is that could
 reduce the amount of configuration. Because cellar is a amazing in term
 of zero configuration overhead in simple topology (I didn't test it in
 complex) and integration with karaf philosophy.

 Romain.

 2012/6/27 Jean-Baptiste Onofré j...@nanthrax.net mailto:j...@nanthrax.net


Hi Romain,

Cellar supports both features and bundles sharing by leveraging
Hazelcast. However, the features and bundles itself are not stored
in the data grid, it's the information relative to the
bundles/features (location, state, etc).

The features/bundles are still resolved on a Maven repository,
Cellar sync the installation order to the different node.

If you are looking for more a repository, it's the purpose of Karaf
Cave.

I think that storing the bundles/features themself in the grid could
be very painful, especially depending the network available between
the nodes, etc.

Regards
JB


On 06/27/2012 05:38 PM, Romain Gilles wrote:

Hi folks,
I would like to know why the Hazelcast data grid is not used to
share
the features / bundle?
It seems that you can use an OBR based solution or a distribution
provisioning solution.
Is there any constraints like memory usage... to prune datagrid as
 a
bundle repository?

Romain.


--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org mailto:jbono...@apache.org

http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com




 --
 Jean-Baptiste Onofré
 jbono...@apache.org
 http://blog.nanthrax.net
 Talend - http://www.talend.com