Re: *****SPAM***** Re: State of the Project

2021-05-31 Thread Zahoor
hmmm... Ethereum has a popular client in golang and attracts many rookie
developers every day.
But still one of the most complex and nicely maintained software on Earth.

On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 7:08 PM Marc  wrote:

> >
> > Better to rewrite/redesign Mesos with a more popular language (like
> > golang) to attract more developers.
> > Just a mind voice.
> >
> > ../Zahoor
>
> H, I would argue exactly the opposite.
> Going to these easier entry level languages attracts rookies coders and
> rookie thinking. I have seen some really weird design and errors in
> csi-ceph and influx.
>


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Re: State of the Project

2021-05-30 Thread Zahoor
Hi

Better to rewrite/redesign Mesos with a more popular language (like golang)
to attract more developers.
Just a mind voice.

../Zahoor


On Sun, May 30, 2021 at 4:08 PM Javi Roman  wrote:

> Totally agree that the main problem with this project is trying to
> increase the developer community.
>
> From my point of view, attracting new developers to a project of this
> complexity is difficult (C++ low level developers, creating Java and Python
> bindings is not easy). However, if we try to broaden the objectives of the
> project we may be able to attract other developers (not only C++
> developers) who can help.
>
> One idea I have always had is to incorporate the concept and technology of
> D2IQ DC/OS [1], in this way we would continue the abandoned work of D2IQ by
> extending Apache Mesos to a more user-friendly technology and broaden the
> base of developers with interest in (ReactJS, Go, Scala, databases).
>
> I would be interested in contributing in this line, being able to apply my
> knowledge in other areas, beyond C++ (which unfortunately I am not
> proficient in).
>
> [1] https://github.com/dcos
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>
> On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 12:47 PM Charles-François Natali <
> cf.nat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Renan,
>>
>> > Renaming the topic because apparently we need to have this discussion
>> again.
>>
>> Thanks for bringing this up again, because it is indeed still a problem.
>>
>> > Therefore, the PMC *must* add members or the project  *will* fizzle out
>> > and die.
>> >
>> > I'd also be curious to see if we even have enough PMC members to form a
>> > quorum at the moment as I only see Andrei Sekretenko reviewing pull
>> > requests on Github and the new chair Qian Zhang on emails. The project
>> > needs three PMC members for the project to be considered in a good state
>> > according to the Apache guidelines [0].
>> >
>>
>> I must say I'm also a bit confused.
>> The new project chair was elected exactly a month ago [1].
>> Since then, the only thing I have seen - there might be more going on
>> being the scenes - is a single thread calling for input on new
>> technical direction [2], which as several people mentioned before is
>> not the most important issue the project is facing right now.
>> As far as I can tell, nothing as been done by the PMC/project chair to
>> address the more fundamental issue of the health of the community.
>> Now, Andrei has been doing a great job at reviewing MRs, but as
>> mentioned before he only has so much time available, and the project
>> can't have only one active committer.
>> So it would be good to hear from the project chair what they are
>> planning to do, if anything, to address this situation.
>> From some private conversations I know that they have been busy with
>> other obligations in the past month so maybe it's only a bad timing
>> and just a transient state, however I don't think it's viable to
>> continue if even the project chair doesn't have any time to dedicate
>> to the project - not even replying to this thread.
>>
>> > At this point I suggest the PMC does a roll call and get Apche board
>> > members involved so that they can be aware of the situation.
>>
>> I'm not familiar with the ASF but yes it does sounds like a possible
>> course of action?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Charles
>>
>>
>>
>> [1]
>> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/mesos-dev/202104.mbox/%3CCAE0xwObaHPiSFM3KrY1SL--E864L48o_LF2E7PP2%3DUu3rk99gQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E
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>> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/mesos-dev/202105.mbox/%3CCABY6VOaOxSp%2BeMJm_jSTdY%3DD5Qp%3DT%2B89Cvaxqw7GLbFYr1qzew%40mail.gmail.com%3E
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>> >
>> > -Renan
>> >
>> > [0]https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
>> >
>> > On 5/24/21 10:21 AM, Charles-François Natali wrote:
>> > > Hey,
>> > >
>> > > Le lun. 24 mai 2021 à 14:12, Qian Zhang  a
>> écrit :
>> > >>> several fixing bugs which basically make Mesos unusable on a recent
>> Linux
>> > >> distro
>> > >> Can you please elaborate a bit on this? Do you mean Mesos not
>> working on a
>> > >> recent Linux distro? If so, I think we can start to fix the issues
>> and
>> > >> maybe do a patch release for t