Re: [DISCUSSION] Additional room menu

[Daniel Ascher]

I think it's a great idea to have the options suggested for arranging the
video pods. The addition of the "sidebar mode" would be a very useful
feature, allowing flexibility regarding the size of the whiteboard and not
having to worry about the video pods being over it. I'm a little bit
confused about whether this thread relates to these issues or some other
aspect of the menus.

Thanks. Dan

On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 12:27 PM Maxim Solodovnik https://eblink1.com/openurl?nid=5428256641646592_id=5036042778312704_id=1601761498229_id=_email=aplusad...@aplustutoring.com=web_ext=mailto%3Asolomax666%40gmail.com>>
wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I would like to add top level menu
> Current Actions menu contains 9 items for regular users and 5 for moderator
> I believe new items should go to new top level menu
>
> We will discuss video pods improvement in other mail thread
> I would like to do it later, after 5.1.0 release :))
>
> On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 at 09:43, dww  >
> wrote:
>
>> Regarding the layout of video pods: are you considering the ability to
>> scroll the window (or paging) if there are many video pods open?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dennis
>>
>> On Thu, 2020-09-24 at 11:02 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>
>> As you can see from thread title this discussion is not about icons or
>> layout of video pods :
>> It is about room menu :)
>>
>> The best proposal regarding video pods IMO is this one:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2414
>> 
>> I can't say I like everything about it
>>
>> But it is good enough
>> The only HUGE issue I can see right now: it seems I should implement it
>> :(
>>
>> On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 at 09:55, seba.wag...@gmail.com
>> 
>> > >
>> wrote:
>>
>> Who says icons make UI messy ?
>>
>> The wrong icons make the UI messy.
>>
>> My argument is that the layout of video pods is the wrong thing we keep
>> on discussing for 7+ years. So having an icon for it will be worth it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Seb
>>
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>> 
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 at 14:50, Maxim Solodovnik > >
>> wrote:
>>
>> icons and buttons
>> 1) occupies space
>> 2) makes UI "messy" :(
>>
>> do we have UX experts here? :)))
>>
>> On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 at 09:46, seba.wag...@gmail.com
>> 
>> > >
>> wrote:
>>
>> Or both
>>
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>> 
>>
>> 

Re: Re: OpenMeetings Virtual Machines Cluster

[Mukul Shukla]

In an open source environment?
 - Jitsi?
- Big Blue Button?


On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 10:44 PM BBS Technik  wrote:

> There are a lot of comercial products out there...   ;-)
>
> Ed
>
> *Gesendet:* Samstag, 03. Oktober 2020 um 19:06 Uhr
> *Von:* "Mukul Shukla" 
> *An:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
> *Betreff:* Re: OpenMeetings Virtual Machines Cluster
> I know it should not be asked here, but anybody can point me to some other
> software where Multimedia Streams restrictions are not there?
>
> Mukul
>
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 9:44 PM Maxim Solodovnik 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 12:05, Mukul Shukla  wrote:
>>
>>> Is OM in it's current form, along with the clustering, be used:
>>> - too conduct 10 classes simultaneously
>>> - with one speaker's  Audio/Video
>>> - 100 Audio listeners only
>>> - how many cluster nodes will be required ?
>>>
>>
>> I believe this should be possible
>> You will need 10 nodes
>> this 10 nodes should be powerful enough to handle all multimedia streams
>> and each should have good ethernet channel
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 9:44 AM Maxim Solodovnik 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 https://markmail.org/message/errm5rc6gvibbkya

 On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 11:03, Mukul Shukla  wrote:

> I am just the beginner of the Open Meetings, not an expert. Yes, have
> read the threads provided by you.
> Not sure if that answers my question. I have very simple things to ask
> as a beginner to decide whether to go ahead with OM or find some other
> solution.
> Anybody, please clear the doubts.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mukul
>
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 9:29 AM Maxim Solodovnik 
> wrote:
>
>> were you able to read threads I sent links for?
>> could you re-read?
>>
>> On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 10:57, Mukul Shukla 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What should be the minimum configuration of these Virtual Machines?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 9:22 AM Maxim Solodovnik <
>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 sure

 On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 10:51, Mukul Shukla 
 wrote:

> Can the cluster machines be Virtual Machines?
>
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 9:15 AM Maxim Solodovnik <
> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> please check these threads:
>>
>> https://markmail.org/message/hkknkxitjepwfsfk
>> https://markmail.org/message/xq6onogz2wrfufbq
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 10:41, Mukul Shukla 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> I want to use OpenMeetings for 800 users simultaneously. As far
>>> as I understand, clustering OM machines is the way to go.
>>>
>>> Can I have 4 Virtual Machines, say in a ProxMox VE, and make a
>>> cluster out of Virtual Machines so that I can make it useful for a 
>>> large
>>> number of users?
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Mukul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
>>
>

 --
 Best regards,
 Maxim

>>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
>>
>

 --
 Best regards,
 Maxim

>>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
>>
>

Aw: Re: OpenMeetings Virtual Machines Cluster

[BBS Technik]

There are a lot of comercial products out there...   ;-)


 

Ed

 

Gesendet: Samstag, 03. Oktober 2020 um 19:06 Uhr
Von: "Mukul Shukla" 
An: user@openmeetings.apache.org
Betreff: Re: OpenMeetings Virtual Machines Cluster



I know it should not be asked here, but anybody can point me to some other software where Multimedia Streams restrictions are not there?

 

Mukul

 


On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 9:44 PM Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:



 
 


On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 12:05, Mukul Shukla  wrote:



Is OM in it's current form, along with the clustering, be used:

- too conduct 10 classes simultaneously

- with one speaker's  Audio/Video

- 100 Audio listeners only

- how many cluster nodes will be required ?



 

I believe this should be possible

You will need 10 nodes

this 10 nodes should be powerful enough to handle all multimedia streams

and each should have good ethernet channel

 



 

Thanks.

 


On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 9:44 AM Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:


https://markmail.org/message/errm5rc6gvibbkya
 


On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 11:03, Mukul Shukla  wrote:


I am just the beginner of the Open Meetings, not an expert. Yes, have read the threads provided by you.
Not sure if that answers my question. I have very simple things to ask as a beginner to decide whether to go ahead with OM or find some other solution.

Anybody, please clear the doubts.

 

Thanks.

 

Mukul

 


On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 9:29 AM Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:


were you able to read threads I sent links for?
could you re-read?

 


On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 10:57, Mukul Shukla  wrote:


What should be the minimum configuration of these Virtual Machines?
 

 


On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 9:22 AM Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:


sure
 


On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 10:51, Mukul Shukla  wrote:


Can the cluster machines be Virtual Machines?
 


On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 9:15 AM Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:


please check these threads:
 

https://markmail.org/message/hkknkxitjepwfsfk

https://markmail.org/message/xq6onogz2wrfufbq

 

 


On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 10:41, Mukul Shukla  wrote:


Dear All,
 

I want to use OpenMeetings for 800 users simultaneously. As far as I understand, clustering OM machines is the way to go. 

 

Can I have 4 Virtual Machines, say in a ProxMox VE, and make a cluster out of Virtual Machines so that I can make it useful for a large number of users?

 

Thank you.

 

Mukul

 

 



 

 
--



Best regards,
Maxim






 

 
--



Best regards,
Maxim






 

 
--



Best regards,
Maxim






 

 
--



Best regards,
Maxim






 

 
--



Best regards,
Maxim

Re: OpenMeetings Virtual Machines Cluster

[Mukul Shukla]

I know it should not be asked here, but anybody can point me to some other
software where Multimedia Streams restrictions are not there?

Mukul

On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 9:44 PM Maxim Solodovnik 
wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 12:05, Mukul Shukla  wrote:
>
>> Is OM in it's current form, along with the clustering, be used:
>> - too conduct 10 classes simultaneously
>> - with one speaker's  Audio/Video
>> - 100 Audio listeners only
>> - how many cluster nodes will be required ?
>>
>
> I believe this should be possible
> You will need 10 nodes
> this 10 nodes should be powerful enough to handle all multimedia streams
> and each should have good ethernet channel
>
>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 9:44 AM Maxim Solodovnik 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> https://markmail.org/message/errm5rc6gvibbkya
>>>
>>> On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 11:03, Mukul Shukla  wrote:
>>>
 I am just the beginner of the Open Meetings, not an expert. Yes, have
 read the threads provided by you.
 Not sure if that answers my question. I have very simple things to ask
 as a beginner to decide whether to go ahead with OM or find some other
 solution.
 Anybody, please clear the doubts.

 Thanks.

 Mukul

 On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 9:29 AM Maxim Solodovnik 
 wrote:

> were you able to read threads I sent links for?
> could you re-read?
>
> On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 10:57, Mukul Shukla 
> wrote:
>
>> What should be the minimum configuration of these Virtual Machines?
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 9:22 AM Maxim Solodovnik 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> sure
>>>
>>> On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 10:51, Mukul Shukla 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Can the cluster machines be Virtual Machines?

 On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 9:15 AM Maxim Solodovnik <
 solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:

> please check these threads:
>
> https://markmail.org/message/hkknkxitjepwfsfk
> https://markmail.org/message/xq6onogz2wrfufbq
>
>
> On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 10:41, Mukul Shukla 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I want to use OpenMeetings for 800 users simultaneously. As far
>> as I understand, clustering OM machines is the way to go.
>>
>> Can I have 4 Virtual Machines, say in a ProxMox VE, and make a
>> cluster out of Virtual Machines so that I can make it useful for a 
>> large
>> number of users?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Mukul
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>

>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Maxim
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>

>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Maxim
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>

Re: [DISCUSSION] Additional room menu

[Maxim Solodovnik]

Hello All,

I would like to add top level menu
Current Actions menu contains 9 items for regular users and 5 for moderator
I believe new items should go to new top level menu

We will discuss video pods improvement in other mail thread
I would like to do it later, after 5.1.0 release :))

On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 at 09:43, dww  wrote:

> Regarding the layout of video pods: are you considering the ability to
> scroll the window (or paging) if there are many video pods open?
>
> Thanks,
> Dennis
>
> On Thu, 2020-09-24 at 11:02 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
> As you can see from thread title this discussion is not about icons or
> layout of video pods :
> It is about room menu :)
>
> The best proposal regarding video pods IMO is this one:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2414
> I can't say I like everything about it
>
> But it is good enough
> The only HUGE issue I can see right now: it seems I should implement it
> :(
>
> On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 at 09:55, seba.wag...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
> Who says icons make UI messy ?
>
> The wrong icons make the UI messy.
>
> My argument is that the layout of video pods is the wrong thing we keep on
> discussing for 7+ years. So having an icon for it will be worth it.
>
> Thanks,
> Seb
>
> Sebastian Wagner
> Director Arrakeen Solutions
> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>
> 
> 
>
>
> On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 at 14:50, Maxim Solodovnik 
> wrote:
>
> icons and buttons
> 1) occupies space
> 2) makes UI "messy" :(
>
> do we have UX experts here? :)))
>
> On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 at 09:46, seba.wag...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
> Or both
>
> Sebastian Wagner
> Director Arrakeen Solutions
> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>
> 
> 
>
>
> On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 at 14:46, seba.wag...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
> It could also be an icon(s) on the actual video pods.
>
> Given the year over year discussion around "layouting video pods" some
> icons that are quick to find, rather inside the menu bar would be justified
> imho.
>
> Thanks,
> Seb
>
> Sebastian Wagner
> Director Arrakeen Solutions
> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>
> 
> 
>
>
> On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 at 14:43, Maxim Solodovnik 
> wrote:
>
> Maybe it's worth to re-work room menu completely?
>
> for ex. file upload menu can be dropped: we already have upload button in
> the tree and can add drag'n'drop support for the files
>
> I don't think "Display" is a good name, I guess some more actions can be
> added for ex. check/reset the state of some do-not-show-again checkboxes of
> something else
>
> On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 at 20:31, Daniel Ascher 
> wrote:
>
> I would suggest another menu item then. I like the idea of calling it
> "Display." While we are at it can we change the file upload menu to another
> name? Maybe just "Upload?" It's confusing when teaching someone to use the
> system because there is both a files menu and a files tab.
>
> Thanks! Dan
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 5:38 AM Maxim Solodovnik  >
> wrote:
>
> I would prefer to move it to menu
> we already have very much controls ...
>
> On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 at 16:20, seba.wag...@gmail.com
> 
>  >
> wrote:
>
> I quite like the button proposal that has been put as attachment
> in OPENMEETINGS-2397
>
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13005989/image-2020-06-18-20-58-03-668.png
> 
>
> We may not be able to implement all of those video arrangements. But I
> like the idea around using those layout buttons that have a visual
> representation of what the layout will look like.
>
> Thanks
> Seb
>
> Sebastian Wagner
> Director Arrakeen Solutions
> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> 

Re: There is no Asterisk configured

[Maxim Solodovnik]

Hello Ed,

On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 at 23:40,  wrote:

> Hello Maxim,
>
> Would FreeSWITCH be easier to integrade than asterixk? Would it do the
> same thing?
>

to be fair I'm not an expert in SIP
I do have old instruction for Asterisk I hope it can be partially re-used
I have no idea what FreeSWITCH is and how it can used
Hopefully I can complete this task, and maybe someone can improve my code
and/or instructions :)


>
> Best,
>
> ed
>
> Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :
>
>
>
> On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 at 22:32, Ali Alhaidary 
> wrote:
>
>> I know that product very well, we used to implement it in call centers
>> that we build. Is it implemented in 5.1.0 ?
>>
> not yet
> not sure if i can integrate KMS and Asterisk
>
>>
>> On 9/29/20 6:27 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>
>> https://www.asterisk.org/
>>
>> On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 at 22:24, Ali Alhaidary 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, are you talking about PBX Asterisk ?
>>> On 9/29/20 5:48 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>
>>> Since you are asking I guess you haven't configured Asterisk integration
>>> :)
>>> And it is not working in 5.0.x
>>> hopefully will be able to implement it ...
>>>
>>> On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 at 21:25, Ali Alhaidary 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 I get this warning in openmeetings.log, should I ignore it? Am I not
 configuring something or what?

 WARN 09-29 14:18:05.176 o.a.o.d.d.r.SipDao:77 [nio-5443-exec-2] - There
 is no Asterisk configured


>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Maxim
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
>>
>>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>
>
>
>

-- 
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: OpenMeetings Virtual Machines Cluster

[Maxim Solodovnik]

On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 12:05, Mukul Shukla  wrote:

> Is OM in it's current form, along with the clustering, be used:
> - too conduct 10 classes simultaneously
> - with one speaker's  Audio/Video
> - 100 Audio listeners only
> - how many cluster nodes will be required ?
>

I believe this should be possible
You will need 10 nodes
this 10 nodes should be powerful enough to handle all multimedia streams
and each should have good ethernet channel


>
> Thanks.
>
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 9:44 AM Maxim Solodovnik 
> wrote:
>
>> https://markmail.org/message/errm5rc6gvibbkya
>>
>> On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 11:03, Mukul Shukla  wrote:
>>
>>> I am just the beginner of the Open Meetings, not an expert. Yes, have
>>> read the threads provided by you.
>>> Not sure if that answers my question. I have very simple things to ask
>>> as a beginner to decide whether to go ahead with OM or find some other
>>> solution.
>>> Anybody, please clear the doubts.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Mukul
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 9:29 AM Maxim Solodovnik 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 were you able to read threads I sent links for?
 could you re-read?

 On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 10:57, Mukul Shukla  wrote:

> What should be the minimum configuration of these Virtual Machines?
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 9:22 AM Maxim Solodovnik 
> wrote:
>
>> sure
>>
>> On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 10:51, Mukul Shukla 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Can the cluster machines be Virtual Machines?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 9:15 AM Maxim Solodovnik <
>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 please check these threads:

 https://markmail.org/message/hkknkxitjepwfsfk
 https://markmail.org/message/xq6onogz2wrfufbq


 On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 10:41, Mukul Shukla 
 wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> I want to use OpenMeetings for 800 users simultaneously. As far as
> I understand, clustering OM machines is the way to go.
>
> Can I have 4 Virtual Machines, say in a ProxMox VE, and make a
> cluster out of Virtual Machines so that I can make it useful for a 
> large
> number of users?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Mukul
>
>
>


 --
 Best regards,
 Maxim

>>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
>>
>

 --
 Best regards,
 Maxim

>>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
>>
>

-- 
Best regards,
Maxim