Re: Remote control
Thanks for the comprehensive response Sebastian. That makes sense to me. If there is a significant call for this feature I assume that conversation will occur. Otherwise, I suppose that means that people don't feel it's needed. Cheers! Dan <https://eblink1.com/openurl?nid=5428256641646592_id=5036042778312704_id=1644248028659_id=_email=aplusad...@aplustutoring.com=web_ext=https%3A%2F%2Fcalendar.aplustutoring.com%2FDanielAscher> On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 8:16 PM seba.wag...@gmail.com wrote: > OpenMeetings since v5.x.x is using webRTC. WebRTC doesn't allow remote > control. > > In order to implement remote control we would need to additionally run the > screen sharing WebStart application on the screen that is being remote > controlled (the sharer side). Same WebStart application that was part of > OpenMeetings 4.x.x and before. > > This is because WebRTC does not have any capability to send signals to the > surrounding environment that would manipulate the mouse position or click > something. Same as your web browser/JavaScript does not allow you to access > or manipulate anything outside of the current browser. > See for example: > https://webrtc.ventures/2016/03/3-things-webrtc-cannot-do/ > > So we would need to re-implement the screen sharing applet in order to > access and manipulate the mouse position on the sharer side. > > I am not sure if there is enough interest in the ability to remote control > that makes it worth shipping & maintaining an additional WebStart Java > Applet for OpenMeetings. > > Thanks > Seb > > Sebastian Wagner > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting for HTML5 > Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> > > > On Sun, 6 Feb 2022 at 05:26, Daniel Ascher > wrote: > >> Is the remote control feature going to be implemented again? Or is this >> not going to be a part of Openmeetings from now on? >> >> Thanks. Dan >> >> >> <https://eblink1.com/openurl?nid=5428256641646592_id=5036042778312704_id=1644078274941_id=_email=aplusad...@aplustutoring.com=web_ext=https%3A%2F%2Fcalendar.aplustutoring.com%2FDanielAscher> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:31 AM Maxim Solodovnik >> wrote: >> >>> Hello Thomas, >>> >>> remote controlling is not implemented yet for 5.x >>> it should work for 4.x :) >>> >>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 16:07, Thomas Scholzen >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I read that it is possible to remote control the mouse when a screen is >>>> shared and would like to use this feature. However, I can not find out how >>>> to do this. When searching for documentation about openmeetings remote >>>> control, I only found information about how to give users the rights to do >>>> this. >>>> >>>> Is remote controlling the screen of the sharing host really possible by >>>> a client or did I misunderstood the feature? I am on Version 5.0.1, >>>> Revision3628ad7, Builddate 2020-09-19T04:50:54Z. Is there any dependency I >>>> might miss? >>>> >>>> I would be grateful for help and explanations, >>>> best regards, >>>> Thomas >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Maxim >>> >>
Re: Remote control
OpenMeetings since v5.x.x is using webRTC. WebRTC doesn't allow remote control. In order to implement remote control we would need to additionally run the screen sharing WebStart application on the screen that is being remote controlled (the sharer side). Same WebStart application that was part of OpenMeetings 4.x.x and before. This is because WebRTC does not have any capability to send signals to the surrounding environment that would manipulate the mouse position or click something. Same as your web browser/JavaScript does not allow you to access or manipulate anything outside of the current browser. See for example: https://webrtc.ventures/2016/03/3-things-webrtc-cannot-do/ So we would need to re-implement the screen sharing applet in order to access and manipulate the mouse position on the sharer side. I am not sure if there is enough interest in the ability to remote control that makes it worth shipping & maintaining an additional WebStart Java Applet for OpenMeetings. Thanks Seb Sebastian Wagner Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting for HTML5 Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> On Sun, 6 Feb 2022 at 05:26, Daniel Ascher wrote: > Is the remote control feature going to be implemented again? Or is this > not going to be a part of Openmeetings from now on? > > Thanks. Dan > > > <https://eblink1.com/openurl?nid=5428256641646592_id=5036042778312704_id=1644078274941_id=_email=aplusad...@aplustutoring.com=web_ext=https%3A%2F%2Fcalendar.aplustutoring.com%2FDanielAscher> > > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:31 AM Maxim Solodovnik > wrote: > >> Hello Thomas, >> >> remote controlling is not implemented yet for 5.x >> it should work for 4.x :) >> >> On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 16:07, Thomas Scholzen >> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I read that it is possible to remote control the mouse when a screen is >>> shared and would like to use this feature. However, I can not find out how >>> to do this. When searching for documentation about openmeetings remote >>> control, I only found information about how to give users the rights to do >>> this. >>> >>> Is remote controlling the screen of the sharing host really possible by >>> a client or did I misunderstood the feature? I am on Version 5.0.1, >>> Revision3628ad7, Builddate 2020-09-19T04:50:54Z. Is there any dependency I >>> might miss? >>> >>> I would be grateful for help and explanations, >>> best regards, >>> Thomas >>> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Maxim >> >
Re: Remote control
Is the remote control feature going to be implemented again? Or is this not going to be a part of Openmeetings from now on? Thanks. Dan <https://eblink1.com/openurl?nid=5428256641646592_id=5036042778312704_id=1644078274941_id=_email=aplusad...@aplustutoring.com=web_ext=https%3A%2F%2Fcalendar.aplustutoring.com%2FDanielAscher> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:31 AM Maxim Solodovnik wrote: > Hello Thomas, > > remote controlling is not implemented yet for 5.x > it should work for 4.x :) > > On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 16:07, Thomas Scholzen > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I read that it is possible to remote control the mouse when a screen is >> shared and would like to use this feature. However, I can not find out how >> to do this. When searching for documentation about openmeetings remote >> control, I only found information about how to give users the rights to do >> this. >> >> Is remote controlling the screen of the sharing host really possible by a >> client or did I misunderstood the feature? I am on Version 5.0.1, >> Revision3628ad7, Builddate 2020-09-19T04:50:54Z. Is there any dependency I >> might miss? >> >> I would be grateful for help and explanations, >> best regards, >> Thomas >> > > > -- > Best regards, > Maxim >
Re: How to activate remote control feature of shared screen in Version 6?
Hello Tom, On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 05:22, Tom Meierjürgen wrote: > Hi Mailinglist, > > i have a little struggle with the actual Version of openmeetings: The > formerly available function of letting a conference participant control > my screen seems to work no longer in version 6. > This is expected remote control wasn't implemented since the code was migrated to WebRTC hopefully will create some implementation (not sure yet what to do with "background" windows ... ) > I activated the switch in the configuration via admins userinterface, > but it seems this switch does actually just nothing at all...did i have > overseen something in the configfiles to activate this needed function? > If yes could someone be so kind and point me to the direction where i > have to change something? > > With kind regards from Cologne/Germany, > > Tom > > -- Best regards, Maxim
How to activate remote control feature of shared screen in Version 6?
Hi Mailinglist, i have a little struggle with the actual Version of openmeetings: The formerly available function of letting a conference participant control my screen seems to work no longer in version 6. I activated the switch in the configuration via admins userinterface, but it seems this switch does actually just nothing at all...did i have overseen something in the configfiles to activate this needed function? If yes could someone be so kind and point me to the direction where i have to change something? With kind regards from Cologne/Germany, Tom
Re: Remote control
Hi Maxim, that explains why it did not work ;-). Thanks for you fast reply, Thomas Am 30.11.2020 10:31, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik: Hello Thomas, remote controlling is not implemented yet for 5.x it should work for 4.x :) On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 16:07, Thomas Scholzen wrote: Hi all, I read that it is possible to remote control the mouse when a screen is shared and would like to use this feature. However, I can not find out how to do this. When searching for documentation about openmeetings remote control, I only found information about how to give users the rights to do this. Is remote controlling the screen of the sharing host really possible by a client or did I misunderstood the feature? I am on Version 5.0.1, Revision3628ad7, Builddate 2020-09-19T04:50:54Z. Is there any dependency I might miss? I would be grateful for help and explanations, best regards, Thomas -- Best regards, Maxim
Re: Remote control
Hello Thomas, remote controlling is not implemented yet for 5.x it should work for 4.x :) On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 16:07, Thomas Scholzen wrote: > Hi all, > > I read that it is possible to remote control the mouse when a screen is > shared and would like to use this feature. However, I can not find out how > to do this. When searching for documentation about openmeetings remote > control, I only found information about how to give users the rights to do > this. > > Is remote controlling the screen of the sharing host really possible by a > client or did I misunderstood the feature? I am on Version 5.0.1, > Revision3628ad7, Builddate 2020-09-19T04:50:54Z. Is there any dependency I > might miss? > > I would be grateful for help and explanations, > best regards, > Thomas > -- Best regards, Maxim
Remote control
Hi all, I read that it is possible to remote control the mouse when a screen is shared and would like to use this feature. However, I can not find out how to do this. When searching for documentation about openmeetings remote control, I only found information about how to give users the rights to do this. Is remote controlling the screen of the sharing host really possible by a client or did I misunderstood the feature? I am on Version 5.0.1, Revision3628ad7, Builddate 2020-09-19T04:50:54Z. Is there any dependency I might miss? I would be grateful for help and explanations, best regards, Thomas
Re: Screen Sharing Remote Control
There are 2 options 1) globaly disable remote control: Admin->Config-> screensharing.allow.remote (http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html) 2) remove "Remote control" right from other users in the room On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 8:04 AM, Chad Palenshus <c...@palenshus.com> wrote: > That works. I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t missing something. I’ll watch > for updates. > > Thanks! > > >> On Dec 7, 2017, at 7:46 PM, David Jentz <jen...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> We have a security requirement on this topic to disable screensharing >> control by default and have the sharer manually enable it. >> >> We have a small patch to enable this, but it wasn't for 4.0.0 ( Maybe 3.2.1?) >> >> Definitely interested if we could make the upstream version have >> screen sharing control off by default. >> >> -Dave >> >>> On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 9:20 AM, Chad Palenshus <c...@palenshus.com> wrote: >>> I appears that when you initiate a screen share, remote control is permitted >>> by default and you have to uncheck it. Is this a setting somewhere (that I >>> obviously haven't found yet) or is by design for some reason? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> -Chad -- WBR Maxim aka solomax
Re: Screen Sharing Remote Control
That works. I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t missing something. I’ll watch for updates. Thanks! > On Dec 7, 2017, at 7:46 PM, David Jentz <jen...@gmail.com> wrote: > > We have a security requirement on this topic to disable screensharing > control by default and have the sharer manually enable it. > > We have a small patch to enable this, but it wasn't for 4.0.0 ( Maybe 3.2.1?) > > Definitely interested if we could make the upstream version have > screen sharing control off by default. > > -Dave > >> On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 9:20 AM, Chad Palenshus <c...@palenshus.com> wrote: >> I appears that when you initiate a screen share, remote control is permitted >> by default and you have to uncheck it. Is this a setting somewhere (that I >> obviously haven't found yet) or is by design for some reason? >> >> Thanks! >> >> -Chad
Re: Screen Sharing Remote Control
We have a security requirement on this topic to disable screensharing control by default and have the sharer manually enable it. We have a small patch to enable this, but it wasn't for 4.0.0 ( Maybe 3.2.1?) Definitely interested if we could make the upstream version have screen sharing control off by default. -Dave On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 9:20 AM, Chad Palenshus <c...@palenshus.com> wrote: > I appears that when you initiate a screen share, remote control is permitted > by default and you have to uncheck it. Is this a setting somewhere (that I > obviously haven't found yet) or is by design for some reason? > > Thanks! > > -Chad
Screen Sharing Remote Control
I appears that when you initiate a screen share, remote control is permitted by default and you have to uncheck it. Is this a setting somewhere (that I obviously haven't found yet) or is by design for some reason? Thanks! -Chad
