AW: [ANNOUNCE] New Shale PMC Chair

2008-03-27 Thread Bernhard Slominski 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Gary VanMatre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Gesendet: Montag, 24. März 2008 19:31
 An: user@shale.apache.org
 Betreff: RE: [ANNOUNCE] New Shale PMC Chair
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
  Congrats Gary! I hope Shale restart the development. 
  
 
 Yeah, I have a few new Clay ideas but all are JSF 1.2ish.

I also hope that Shale has some future (that were my last words at the JSF days 
presentation about Shale: It's not yet dead !).
For the Clay vs. Facelets: I think one major problem is really the confusing 
naming (HTML, full HTML, full XML ...) and documentation of Clay, there should 
be put some effort in there.

Bernhard

Re: AW: [ANNOUNCE] New Shale PMC Chair

2008-03-27 Thread Gary VanMatre 
From: Bernhard Slominski [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- 
  Von: Gary VanMatre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Gesendet: Montag, 24. März 2008 19:31 
  An: user@shale.apache.org 
  Betreff: RE: [ANNOUNCE] New Shale PMC Chair 
  
  
  From: 
   
   Congrats Gary! I hope Shale restart the development. 
   
  
  Yeah, I have a few new Clay ideas but all are JSF 1.2ish. 
 
 I also hope that Shale has some future (that were my last words at the JSF 
 days 
 presentation about Shale: It's not yet dead !). 
 For the Clay vs. Facelets: I think one major problem is really the confusing 
 naming (HTML, full HTML, full XML ...) and documentation of Clay, there 
 should 
 be put some effort in there. 


Good point.  Bad terms with probably too many options.  Clay can be used with 
JSP or as a page entry point like facelets.  The template can be non-xhtml, 
xhtml or an abstract reference defined in XML that doesn't correspond to a 
physical resource similar to tiles.  The templates can be loaded from the 
context root or from the classpath.  Clay templates allow inheritance in 
addition to composition.

Many have told me that Facelets has clearly won and we should just try to help 
them out JSF 2 will be featured from facelets.




 Bernhard 


Gary

Re: AW: [ANNOUNCE] New Shale PMC Chair

2008-03-27 Thread Greg Reddin 
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Gary VanMatre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Many have told me that Facelets has clearly won and we should just try to 
 help them out JSF 2 will be featured from facelets.

Yeah, but... Many have also complained that there hasn't been much
movement in Facelets of late and the project has been hard to get
into, so maybe... :-)

Greg