Re: .NET on Apache Spark?

2015-07-05 Thread Jörn Franke
Ironpython shares with python only the syntax - at best. It is a scripting
language within the .NET framework. Many applications have this for
scripting the application itself. This won't work for you. You can use
pipes or write your spark jobs in java/scala/r and submit them via your
.NET framework. Alternatively, you create java spark jobs as skeleton and
you call your .NET libraries via jni. Depends a little bit on your use
case. From an architecture point of view you should be careful about memory
management in these constellations...

Le jeu. 2 juil. 2015 à 10:33, Zwits  a
écrit :

> I'm currently looking into a way to run a program/code (DAG) written in
> .NET
> on a cluster using Spark. However I ran into problems concerning the coding
> language, Spark has no .NET API.
> I tried looking into IronPython because Spark does have a Python API, but i
> couldn't find a way to use this.
>
> Is there a way to implement a DAG of jobs on a cluster using .NET
> programming language?
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Re: .NET on Apache Spark?

2015-07-05 Thread Silvio Fiorito
Joe Duffy, director of engineering on Microsoft's compiler team made a comment 
about investigating  F# type providers for Spark. 
https://twitter.com/xjoeduffyx/status/614076012372955136


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Unfortunately, afaik that project is long dead.

It'd be an interesting project to create an intermediary protocol, perhaps 
using something that nearly everything these days understand (unfortunately [!] 
that might be JavaScript). For example, instead of pickling language 
constructs, it might be interesting to translate rdd operations to some json 
structure, and have a single thing server side processing the "instructions".

There's also mbrace (http://www.m-brace.net/)... mbrace-spark integration would 
be quite interesting indeed. Though the difference in approach might be quite a 
challenge.

Another approach could be using IKVM to host the JVM, much like how pyspark 
executes.

Microsoft research published some very early work in OneNet: 
http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/jinl/redesign/research/onenet_executive_summary.pdf
 - their careers page seems to be recruiting for the project.

Again, these are all future things, most of which would need to be community 
driven. If you need something right now, then there really isn't good 
integration between spark and .NET. However, given your requirements, mbrace 
might be something that you might find useful.

-Ashic.

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Subject: Re: .NET on Apache Spark?
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Scala used to run on .NET
http://www.scala-lang.org/old/node/10299


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On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 1:26 PM, pedro 
mailto:ski.rodrig...@gmail.com>> wrote:
You might try using .pipe() and installing your .NET program as a binary
across the cluster (or using addFile). Its not ideal to pipe things in/out
along with the overhead, but it would work.

I don't know much about IronPython, but perhaps changing the default python
by changing your path might work?



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RE: .NET on Apache Spark?

2015-07-05 Thread Ashic Mahtab
Unfortunately, afaik that project is long dead.
It'd be an interesting project to create an intermediary protocol, perhaps 
using something that nearly everything these days understand (unfortunately [!] 
that might be JavaScript). For example, instead of pickling language 
constructs, it might be interesting to translate rdd operations to some json 
structure, and have a single thing server side processing the "instructions". 
There's also mbrace (http://www.m-brace.net/)... mbrace-spark integration would 
be quite interesting indeed. Though the difference in approach might be quite a 
challenge.
Another approach could be using IKVM to host the JVM, much like how pyspark 
executes.
Microsoft research published some very early work in OneNet: 
http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/jinl/redesign/research/onenet_executive_summary.pdf
 - their careers page seems to be recruiting for the project.
Again, these are all future things, most of which would need to be community 
driven. If you need something right now, then there really isn't good 
integration between spark and .NET. However, given your requirements, mbrace 
might be something that you might find useful.
-Ashic.

Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2015 11:05:30 -0600
Subject: Re: .NET on Apache Spark?
From: dautkha...@gmail.com
To: ski.rodrig...@gmail.com
CC: user@spark.apache.org

Scala used to run on .NEThttp://www.scala-lang.org/old/node/10299

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On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 1:26 PM, pedro  wrote:
You might try using .pipe() and installing your .NET program as a binary

across the cluster (or using addFile). Its not ideal to pipe things in/out

along with the overhead, but it would work.



I don't know much about IronPython, but perhaps changing the default python

by changing your path might work?







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Re: .NET on Apache Spark?

2015-07-05 Thread Ruslan Dautkhanov
Scala used to run on .NET
http://www.scala-lang.org/old/node/10299


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On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 1:26 PM, pedro  wrote:

> You might try using .pipe() and installing your .NET program as a binary
> across the cluster (or using addFile). Its not ideal to pipe things in/out
> along with the overhead, but it would work.
>
> I don't know much about IronPython, but perhaps changing the default python
> by changing your path might work?
>
>
>
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Re: .NET on Apache Spark?

2015-07-02 Thread pedro
You might try using .pipe() and installing your .NET program as a binary
across the cluster (or using addFile). Its not ideal to pipe things in/out
along with the overhead, but it would work.

I don't know much about IronPython, but perhaps changing the default python
by changing your path might work?



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RE: .NET on Apache Spark?

2015-07-02 Thread Silvio Fiorito
Since Spark runs on the JVM, no there isn't support for .Net.

You should take a look at Dryad and Naiad instead.

https://github.com/MicrosoftResearch/

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Subject: .NET on Apache Spark?

I'm currently looking into a way to run a program/code (DAG) written in .NET
on a cluster using Spark. However I ran into problems concerning the coding
language, Spark has no .NET API.
I tried looking into IronPython because Spark does have a Python API, but i
couldn't find a way to use this.

Is there a way to implement a DAG of jobs on a cluster using .NET
programming language?




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Re: .NET on Apache Spark?

2015-07-02 Thread Daniel Darabos
Indeed Spark does not have .NET bindings.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Zwits 
wrote:

> I'm currently looking into a way to run a program/code (DAG) written in
> .NET
> on a cluster using Spark. However I ran into problems concerning the coding
> language, Spark has no .NET API.
> I tried looking into IronPython because Spark does have a Python API, but i
> couldn't find a way to use this.
>
> Is there a way to implement a DAG of jobs on a cluster using .NET
> programming language?
>
>
>
>
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.NET on Apache Spark?

2015-07-02 Thread Zwits
I'm currently looking into a way to run a program/code (DAG) written in .NET
on a cluster using Spark. However I ran into problems concerning the coding
language, Spark has no .NET API.
I tried looking into IronPython because Spark does have a Python API, but i
couldn't find a way to use this.

Is there a way to implement a DAG of jobs on a cluster using .NET
programming language?




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