Re: FTPS Handshake error

2019-02-20 Thread ski n
I looked again into this issue. The issue occurs, because of TLS session
resumption. There is an option enabled by default on the FileZilla server
to avoid an exploit. See this forum post:

https://forum.filezilla-project.org/viewtopic.php?p=137191#p137191

The proposed solution on StackOverflow is to turn off this security option:

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/35061145/ftpsclient-file-upload-and-download-always-size-0-and-exception

However, this isn't desirable and is not always an option because the
server-side cannot be changed. See also this question:

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50852231/camel-ftps-how-enable-tls-resumption

As the questioner wrote there's currently no way to enable TLS enable from
Camel FTPS options. This issue can easily be reproduced by installing a
FileZilla server with FTPS with default options.

Raymond



Op ma 11 feb. 2019 om 22:08 schreef ski n :

> Yes, I have JCE accessible in the JVM. I am using latest Java 8 Update
> 201.
>
> As in this anser stackoverflow the unlimited shouldn't be set anymore:
>
>
> https://golb.hplar.ch/2017/10/JCE-policy-changes-in-Java-SE-8u151-and-8u152.html
>
> To be sure I did enable crypto.policy=unlimited in the security file. But
> this hadn't any effect.
>
> Raymond
>
>
> Op ma 11 feb. 2019 om 14:43 schreef Björn Þór Jónsson :
>
>> Do you have the Java Cryptography Extension (JCE) accessible to your JVM ?
>>
>> In one case Camel had trouble communicating with an FTPS server which was
>> using a cipher not available to the default Java installation and I solved
>> it by installing that extension.
>>
>> /Björn
>>
>> On 10/02/2019, 19:09, "ski n"  wrote:
>>
>> I'm trying to send some text files to a FTPS server. The FTPS server
>> has
>> following specifications:
>>
>> 1) FTP Type: FileZilla Server
>> 2) Cryptographic protocol = TLS/SSL Explicit encryption, TLSv1.2
>> 3) Encryption algorithm = TLSv1/SSLv3: ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384,
>> 2048
>> bit RSA, ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH Au=RSA
>> Enc=AESGCM(256) Mac=AEAD
>> 4) Mode: Passive
>> 5) Port: 21 (NAT ports 5-500010)
>>
>> I can access and send the files with WinSCP or FilleZilla client. When
>> using the FTPS Component of Camel (using a TrustStore and set
>> passivemode
>> to true) the file is created within the FTPS Server directory,
>> however with
>> 0 kb. No data is send. In the logs I got the following error:
>>
>> Remote host closed connection during handshake. Code: 150
>> Writing file failed with: File operation failed: 150 Opening data
>> channel
>> for file upload to server of "/file.csv"
>>
>> Stacktrace
>>
>> ---
>>
>> org.apache.camel.component.file.GenericFileOperationFailedException:
>> File
>> operation failed: 150 Opening data channel for file upload to server
>> of
>> "/file.csv"
>>  Remote host closed connection during handshake. Code: 150
>> at
>>
>> org.apache.camel.component.file.remote.FtpOperations.doStoreFile(FtpOperations.java:710)
>> at
>>
>> org.apache.camel.component.file.remote.FtpOperations.storeFile(FtpOperations.java:615)
>> at
>>
>> org.apache.camel.component.file.GenericFileProducer.writeFile(GenericFileProducer.java:305)
>> at
>>
>> org.apache.camel.component.file.GenericFileProducer.processExchange(GenericFileProducer.java:169)
>> at
>>
>> org.apache.camel.component.file.remote.RemoteFileProducer.process(RemoteFileProducer.java:57)
>> at
>>
>> org.apache.camel.util.AsyncProcessorConverterHelper$ProcessorToAsyncProcessorBridge.process(AsyncProcessorConverterHelper.java:61)
>> at
>>
>> org.apache.camel.processor.SendProcessor$2.doInAsyncProducer(SendProcessor.java:178)
>> at
>>
>> org.apache.camel.impl.ProducerCache.doInAsyncProducer(ProducerCache.java:445)
>> at
>>
>> org.apache.camel.processor.SendProcessor.process(SendProcessor.java:173)
>> at
>>
>> org.apache.camel.processor.CamelInternalProcessor.process(CamelInternalProcessor.java:201)
>> at
>>
>> org.apache.camel.processor.RedeliveryErrorHandler.process(RedeliveryErrorHandler.java:548)
>> at
>>
>> org.apache.camel.processor.CamelInternalProcessor.process(CamelInternalProcessor.java:201)
>> at
>>
>> org.apache.camel.util.AsyncProcessorHelper.process(AsyncProcessorHelper.java:109)
>> at
>>
>> org.apache.camel.processor.MulticastProcessor.doProcessParallel(MulticastProcessor.java:860)
>> at
>>
>> org.apache.camel.processor.MulticastProcessor.access$200(MulticastProcessor.java:86)
>> at
>>
>> org.apache.camel.processor.MulticastProcessor$1.call(MulticastProcessor.java:330)
>> at
>>
>> org.apache.camel.processor.MulticastProcessor$1.call(MulticastProcessor.java:316)
>> at 

Re: AW: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline

2019-02-20 Thread Ron Cecchini
(This is the graphic I was trying to send yesterday.  Please excuse the 
horrendous ASCII "art" !)


   Infinite Integration!

 _ oo
/ '
|Java = Camel
  '_/ 1


> However with the new modern world of containers I came up with:
>  
> * Apache Camel 3 - A full-stack integration framework for building cloud- 
> native micro integrations


Re: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline

2019-02-20 Thread Willem Jiang
+1 for "Integrate Everything!"
it's simple and catchy.

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 8:41 PM Ashwin Karpe  wrote:
>
> +1 for "Integrate Everything!"
>
> - Ashwin...
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 6:32 AM James Carman 
> wrote:
>
> > Apache Camel: Integrate All the Things!
> > On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 6:23 AM Valdis Andersons 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1 for "Integrate Everything!"
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Francois Papon [mailto:francois.pa...@openobject.fr]
> > > Sent: 20 February 2019 10:19
> > > To: users@camel.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm agree with Guillaume about not focuses too much on cloud, Camel can
> > be
> > > use in many other cases.
> > >
> > > We can also have:
> > >
> > > "Integrate the world" or "Integrate your business"
> > >
> > > It's just ideas and may be too "enterprise"...
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > François Papon
> > > fpa...@apache.org
> > >
> > > Le 20/02/2019 à 11:38, Guillaume Nodet a écrit :
> > > >> Apache Camel 3 - A full-stack integration framework for building
> > > >> cloud-native micro integrations
> > > >>
> > > > I think the proposed tagline focuses too much on cloud, and even if
> > > > that's definitely something we want to emphasize in the set of
> > > > capabilities that Camel provides, having it in the tag line kinda
> > > > implies that Camel is mainly focusing on cloud and not traditional
> > > integration.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> "Integrate everything"
> > > >> "Integrate everything without humps" ;-)
> > > >>
> > > > +1 I like both a lot.
> > > >
> > > > In the same direction, and to keep the versatile side we could have:
> > > >   "Integrate everything everywhere"
> > > > but not sure it's better.
> > > >
> > > > Guillaume
> > > >
> > > > Le mer. 20 févr. 2019 à 08:28, Burkard Stephan
> > > >  a écrit :
> > > >
> > > >> Hi all
> > > >>
> > > >> +1 for "Integrate everything!"
> > > >> because it is short, catchy and it refers to Camels outstanding
> > > >> versatility with its hundreds of components.
> > > >>
> > > >> It is true that Camel has a lot of other noteworthy features like
> > > >> runtime flexibility etc. but as soon as the tagline wants to cover
> > > >> multiple things, it gets "bulky" or "buzzwordy".
> > > >>
> > > >> To link the tagline back to the project name and add a pinch of humor
> > > >> it could also be "Integrate everything without humps" ;-)
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > > >> Von: Steve Huston 
> > > >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2019 18:32
> > > >> An: users@camel.apache.org
> > > >> Betreff: RE: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline
> > > >>
> > > >> "Integrate everything!"
> > > >>
> > > >>> -Original Message-
> > > >>> From: Claus Ibsen 
> > > >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 10:52 AM
> > > >>> To: users@camel.apache.org
> > > >>> Subject: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hi
> > > >>>
> > > >>> As part of Apache Camel 3, we are working on a new modern website
> > > >>> (yeah its long overdue, but work are in progress).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> As part of that, we should get a new front-page with a new short
> > > >>> summary what Apache Camel is (eg a tagline).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> It would be good to get some ideas rolling what such a tagline could
> > > >>> be and for users of Camel to come up with suggestions.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> As Apache Camel has been around for so long, and that it covers so
> > > >>> many different use-cases, then its maybe harder to come up with a
> > > >>> single tag-line that spans all use-cases.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> However with the new modern world of containers I came up with:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> * Apache Camel 3 - A full-stack integration framework for building
> > > >>> cloud- native micro integrations
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> Claus Ibsen
> > > >>> -
> > > >>>
> > >
> > http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=6600=kqnt3DZnRVRDxGKB9mE1Jedd8mhb_nMw1qmhjeAI_A=33=http%3a%2f%2fdavsclaus%2ecom
> > > @davsclaus
> > > >>> Camel in Action 2:
> > >
> > https://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=6600=kqnt3DZnRVRDxGKB9mE1Jedd8mhb_nMw1qav2Operw=33=https%3a%2f%2fwww%2emanning%2ecom%2fibsen2
> > > >
> > >
> > > Vhi Group DAC (Vhi) is a holding company for insurance and healthcare
> > > services, which include Vhi Healthcare DAC, Vhi Insurance DAC, Vhi Health
> > > Services DAC and Vhi Investments DAC. Vhi Healthcare DAC trading as Vhi
> > > Healthcare and Vhi Insurance DAC trading as Vhi Insurance are regulated
> > by
> > > the Central Bank of Ireland. Vhi Healthcare is tied to Vhi Insurance DAC
> > > for health insurance in Ireland which is underwritten by Vhi Insurance
> > DAC.
> > > Vhi Healthcare is tied to Zurich Life Assurance plc for Vhi Life Term
> > > Insurance and Vhi Mortgage Protection which is underwritten by Zurich
> > Life
> > > Assurance plc. Vhi 

RE: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline

2019-02-20 Thread Bill Durksen
Here's one that uses (hints at) the camel metaphor:

"Delivering your messages anywhere, instantly!"

Bill Durksen

 
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-Original Message-
From: Dicken George [mailto:dickengeo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 7:46 AM
To: users@camel.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline

Here is one !

Apache Camel: „Your saddle for Integration“

Cheers,
Dicken George

On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 at 1:32 pm, James Carman 
wrote:

> Apache Camel: Integrate All the Things!
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 6:23 AM Valdis Andersons 
> wrote:
>
> > +1 for "Integrate Everything!"
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Francois Papon [mailto:francois.pa...@openobject.fr]
> > Sent: 20 February 2019 10:19
> > To: users@camel.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm agree with Guillaume about not focuses too much on cloud, Camel can
> be
> > use in many other cases.
> >
> > We can also have:
> >
> > "Integrate the world" or "Integrate your business"
> >
> > It's just ideas and may be too "enterprise"...
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > François Papon
> > fpa...@apache.org
> >
> > Le 20/02/2019 à 11:38, Guillaume Nodet a écrit :
> > >> Apache Camel 3 - A full-stack integration framework for building
> > >> cloud-native micro integrations
> > >>
> > > I think the proposed tagline focuses too much on cloud, and even if
> > > that's definitely something we want to emphasize in the set of
> > > capabilities that Camel provides, having it in the tag line kinda
> > > implies that Camel is mainly focusing on cloud and not traditional
> > integration.
> > >
> > >
> > >> "Integrate everything"
> > >> "Integrate everything without humps" ;-)
> > >>
> > > +1 I like both a lot.
> > >
> > > In the same direction, and to keep the versatile side we could have:
> > >   "Integrate everything everywhere"
> > > but not sure it's better.
> > >
> > > Guillaume
> > >
> > > Le mer. 20 févr. 2019 à 08:28, Burkard Stephan
> > >  a écrit :
> > >
> > >> Hi all
> > >>
> > >> +1 for "Integrate everything!"
> > >> because it is short, catchy and it refers to Camels outstanding
> > >> versatility with its hundreds of components.
> > >>
> > >> It is true that Camel has a lot of other noteworthy features like
> > >> runtime flexibility etc. but as soon as the tagline wants to cover
> > >> multiple things, it gets "bulky" or "buzzwordy".
> > >>
> > >> To link the tagline back to the project name and add a pinch of humor
> > >> it could also be "Integrate everything without humps" ;-)
> > >>
> > >
> > >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > >> Von: Steve Huston 
> > >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2019 18:32
> > >> An: users@camel.apache.org
> > >> Betreff: RE: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline
> > >>
> > >> "Integrate everything!"
> > >>
> > >>> -Original Message-
> > >>> From: Claus Ibsen 
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 10:52 AM
> > >>> To: users@camel.apache.org
> > >>> Subject: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi
> > >>>
> > >>> As part of Apache Camel 3, we are working on a new modern website
> > >>> (yeah its long overdue, but work are in progress).
> > >>>
> > >>> As part of that, we should get a new front-page with a new short
> > >>> summary what Apache Camel is (eg a tagline).
> > >>>
> > >>> It would be good to get some ideas rolling what such a tagline could
> > >>> be and for users of Camel to come up with suggestions.
> > >>>
> > >>> As Apache Camel has been around for so long, and that it covers so
> > >>> many different use-cases, then its maybe harder to come up with a
> > >>> single tag-line that spans all use-cases.
> > >>>
> > >>> However with the new modern world of containers I came up with:
> > >>>
> > >>> * Apache Camel 3 - A full-stack integration framework for building
> > >>> cloud- native micro integrations
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Claus Ibsen
> > >>> -
> > >>>
> >
> http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=6600=kqnt3DZnRVRDxGKB9mE1Jedd8mhb_nMw1qmhjeAI_A=33=http%3a%2f%2fdavsclaus%2ecom
> > @davsclaus
> > >>> Camel in Action 2:
> >
> https://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=6600=kqnt3DZnRVRDxGKB9mE1Jedd8mhb_nMw1qav2Operw=33=https%3a%2f%2fwww%2emanning%2ecom%2fibsen2
> > >
> >
> > Vhi Group DAC (Vhi) is a holding company for insurance and healthcare
> > services, which include Vhi Healthcare DAC, Vhi Insurance DAC, Vhi Health
> > Services DAC and Vhi Investments DAC. Vhi Healthcare DAC trading as Vhi
> > Healthcare and Vhi Insurance DAC trading as Vhi Insurance are regulated
> by
> > the Central Bank of Ireland. Vhi Healthcare is tied to Vhi Insurance DAC
> > for health insurance in Ireland 

Re: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline

2019-02-20 Thread Dicken George
Here is one !

Apache Camel: „Your saddle for Integration“

Cheers,
Dicken George

On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 at 1:32 pm, James Carman 
wrote:

> Apache Camel: Integrate All the Things!
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 6:23 AM Valdis Andersons 
> wrote:
>
> > +1 for "Integrate Everything!"
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Francois Papon [mailto:francois.pa...@openobject.fr]
> > Sent: 20 February 2019 10:19
> > To: users@camel.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm agree with Guillaume about not focuses too much on cloud, Camel can
> be
> > use in many other cases.
> >
> > We can also have:
> >
> > "Integrate the world" or "Integrate your business"
> >
> > It's just ideas and may be too "enterprise"...
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > François Papon
> > fpa...@apache.org
> >
> > Le 20/02/2019 à 11:38, Guillaume Nodet a écrit :
> > >> Apache Camel 3 - A full-stack integration framework for building
> > >> cloud-native micro integrations
> > >>
> > > I think the proposed tagline focuses too much on cloud, and even if
> > > that's definitely something we want to emphasize in the set of
> > > capabilities that Camel provides, having it in the tag line kinda
> > > implies that Camel is mainly focusing on cloud and not traditional
> > integration.
> > >
> > >
> > >> "Integrate everything"
> > >> "Integrate everything without humps" ;-)
> > >>
> > > +1 I like both a lot.
> > >
> > > In the same direction, and to keep the versatile side we could have:
> > >   "Integrate everything everywhere"
> > > but not sure it's better.
> > >
> > > Guillaume
> > >
> > > Le mer. 20 févr. 2019 à 08:28, Burkard Stephan
> > >  a écrit :
> > >
> > >> Hi all
> > >>
> > >> +1 for "Integrate everything!"
> > >> because it is short, catchy and it refers to Camels outstanding
> > >> versatility with its hundreds of components.
> > >>
> > >> It is true that Camel has a lot of other noteworthy features like
> > >> runtime flexibility etc. but as soon as the tagline wants to cover
> > >> multiple things, it gets "bulky" or "buzzwordy".
> > >>
> > >> To link the tagline back to the project name and add a pinch of humor
> > >> it could also be "Integrate everything without humps" ;-)
> > >>
> > >
> > >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > >> Von: Steve Huston 
> > >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2019 18:32
> > >> An: users@camel.apache.org
> > >> Betreff: RE: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline
> > >>
> > >> "Integrate everything!"
> > >>
> > >>> -Original Message-
> > >>> From: Claus Ibsen 
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 10:52 AM
> > >>> To: users@camel.apache.org
> > >>> Subject: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi
> > >>>
> > >>> As part of Apache Camel 3, we are working on a new modern website
> > >>> (yeah its long overdue, but work are in progress).
> > >>>
> > >>> As part of that, we should get a new front-page with a new short
> > >>> summary what Apache Camel is (eg a tagline).
> > >>>
> > >>> It would be good to get some ideas rolling what such a tagline could
> > >>> be and for users of Camel to come up with suggestions.
> > >>>
> > >>> As Apache Camel has been around for so long, and that it covers so
> > >>> many different use-cases, then its maybe harder to come up with a
> > >>> single tag-line that spans all use-cases.
> > >>>
> > >>> However with the new modern world of containers I came up with:
> > >>>
> > >>> * Apache Camel 3 - A full-stack integration framework for building
> > >>> cloud- native micro integrations
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Claus Ibsen
> > >>> -
> > >>>
> >
> http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=6600=kqnt3DZnRVRDxGKB9mE1Jedd8mhb_nMw1qmhjeAI_A=33=http%3a%2f%2fdavsclaus%2ecom
> > @davsclaus
> > >>> Camel in Action 2:
> >
> https://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=6600=kqnt3DZnRVRDxGKB9mE1Jedd8mhb_nMw1qav2Operw=33=https%3a%2f%2fwww%2emanning%2ecom%2fibsen2
> > >
> >
> > Vhi Group DAC (Vhi) is a holding company for insurance and healthcare
> > services, which include Vhi Healthcare DAC, Vhi Insurance DAC, Vhi Health
> > Services DAC and Vhi Investments DAC. Vhi Healthcare DAC trading as Vhi
> > Healthcare and Vhi Insurance DAC trading as Vhi Insurance are regulated
> by
> > the Central Bank of Ireland. Vhi Healthcare is tied to Vhi Insurance DAC
> > for health insurance in Ireland which is underwritten by Vhi Insurance
> DAC.
> > Vhi Healthcare is tied to Zurich Life Assurance plc for Vhi Life Term
> > Insurance and Vhi Mortgage Protection which is underwritten by Zurich
> Life
> > Assurance plc. Vhi Healthcare is tied to Collinson Insurance Services
> > Limited for MultiTrip Travel Insurance, Backpacker Travel Insurance and
> Vhi
> > Dental Insurance which are underwritten by Great Lakes Insurance SE, UK
> > branch and for Vhi Canada Cover and Vhi International Health Insurance
> > which are underwritten by Astrenska Insurance Limited. For more
> information
> > about the Vhi Group 

Re: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline

2019-02-20 Thread Ashwin Karpe
+1 for "Integrate Everything!"

- Ashwin...


On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 6:32 AM James Carman 
wrote:

> Apache Camel: Integrate All the Things!
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 6:23 AM Valdis Andersons 
> wrote:
>
> > +1 for "Integrate Everything!"
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Francois Papon [mailto:francois.pa...@openobject.fr]
> > Sent: 20 February 2019 10:19
> > To: users@camel.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm agree with Guillaume about not focuses too much on cloud, Camel can
> be
> > use in many other cases.
> >
> > We can also have:
> >
> > "Integrate the world" or "Integrate your business"
> >
> > It's just ideas and may be too "enterprise"...
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > François Papon
> > fpa...@apache.org
> >
> > Le 20/02/2019 à 11:38, Guillaume Nodet a écrit :
> > >> Apache Camel 3 - A full-stack integration framework for building
> > >> cloud-native micro integrations
> > >>
> > > I think the proposed tagline focuses too much on cloud, and even if
> > > that's definitely something we want to emphasize in the set of
> > > capabilities that Camel provides, having it in the tag line kinda
> > > implies that Camel is mainly focusing on cloud and not traditional
> > integration.
> > >
> > >
> > >> "Integrate everything"
> > >> "Integrate everything without humps" ;-)
> > >>
> > > +1 I like both a lot.
> > >
> > > In the same direction, and to keep the versatile side we could have:
> > >   "Integrate everything everywhere"
> > > but not sure it's better.
> > >
> > > Guillaume
> > >
> > > Le mer. 20 févr. 2019 à 08:28, Burkard Stephan
> > >  a écrit :
> > >
> > >> Hi all
> > >>
> > >> +1 for "Integrate everything!"
> > >> because it is short, catchy and it refers to Camels outstanding
> > >> versatility with its hundreds of components.
> > >>
> > >> It is true that Camel has a lot of other noteworthy features like
> > >> runtime flexibility etc. but as soon as the tagline wants to cover
> > >> multiple things, it gets "bulky" or "buzzwordy".
> > >>
> > >> To link the tagline back to the project name and add a pinch of humor
> > >> it could also be "Integrate everything without humps" ;-)
> > >>
> > >
> > >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > >> Von: Steve Huston 
> > >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2019 18:32
> > >> An: users@camel.apache.org
> > >> Betreff: RE: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline
> > >>
> > >> "Integrate everything!"
> > >>
> > >>> -Original Message-
> > >>> From: Claus Ibsen 
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 10:52 AM
> > >>> To: users@camel.apache.org
> > >>> Subject: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi
> > >>>
> > >>> As part of Apache Camel 3, we are working on a new modern website
> > >>> (yeah its long overdue, but work are in progress).
> > >>>
> > >>> As part of that, we should get a new front-page with a new short
> > >>> summary what Apache Camel is (eg a tagline).
> > >>>
> > >>> It would be good to get some ideas rolling what such a tagline could
> > >>> be and for users of Camel to come up with suggestions.
> > >>>
> > >>> As Apache Camel has been around for so long, and that it covers so
> > >>> many different use-cases, then its maybe harder to come up with a
> > >>> single tag-line that spans all use-cases.
> > >>>
> > >>> However with the new modern world of containers I came up with:
> > >>>
> > >>> * Apache Camel 3 - A full-stack integration framework for building
> > >>> cloud- native micro integrations
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Claus Ibsen
> > >>> -
> > >>>
> >
> http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=6600=kqnt3DZnRVRDxGKB9mE1Jedd8mhb_nMw1qmhjeAI_A=33=http%3a%2f%2fdavsclaus%2ecom
> > @davsclaus
> > >>> Camel in Action 2:
> >
> https://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=6600=kqnt3DZnRVRDxGKB9mE1Jedd8mhb_nMw1qav2Operw=33=https%3a%2f%2fwww%2emanning%2ecom%2fibsen2
> > >
> >
> > Vhi Group DAC (Vhi) is a holding company for insurance and healthcare
> > services, which include Vhi Healthcare DAC, Vhi Insurance DAC, Vhi Health
> > Services DAC and Vhi Investments DAC. Vhi Healthcare DAC trading as Vhi
> > Healthcare and Vhi Insurance DAC trading as Vhi Insurance are regulated
> by
> > the Central Bank of Ireland. Vhi Healthcare is tied to Vhi Insurance DAC
> > for health insurance in Ireland which is underwritten by Vhi Insurance
> DAC.
> > Vhi Healthcare is tied to Zurich Life Assurance plc for Vhi Life Term
> > Insurance and Vhi Mortgage Protection which is underwritten by Zurich
> Life
> > Assurance plc. Vhi Healthcare is tied to Collinson Insurance Services
> > Limited for MultiTrip Travel Insurance, Backpacker Travel Insurance and
> Vhi
> > Dental Insurance which are underwritten by Great Lakes Insurance SE, UK
> > branch and for Vhi Canada Cover and Vhi International Health Insurance
> > which are underwritten by Astrenska Insurance Limited. For more
> information
> > about the Vhi Group please go to: 

Re: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline

2019-02-20 Thread James Carman
Apache Camel: Integrate All the Things!
On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 6:23 AM Valdis Andersons 
wrote:

> +1 for "Integrate Everything!"
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Francois Papon [mailto:francois.pa...@openobject.fr]
> Sent: 20 February 2019 10:19
> To: users@camel.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm agree with Guillaume about not focuses too much on cloud, Camel can be
> use in many other cases.
>
> We can also have:
>
> "Integrate the world" or "Integrate your business"
>
> It's just ideas and may be too "enterprise"...
>
> regards,
>
> François Papon
> fpa...@apache.org
>
> Le 20/02/2019 à 11:38, Guillaume Nodet a écrit :
> >> Apache Camel 3 - A full-stack integration framework for building
> >> cloud-native micro integrations
> >>
> > I think the proposed tagline focuses too much on cloud, and even if
> > that's definitely something we want to emphasize in the set of
> > capabilities that Camel provides, having it in the tag line kinda
> > implies that Camel is mainly focusing on cloud and not traditional
> integration.
> >
> >
> >> "Integrate everything"
> >> "Integrate everything without humps" ;-)
> >>
> > +1 I like both a lot.
> >
> > In the same direction, and to keep the versatile side we could have:
> >   "Integrate everything everywhere"
> > but not sure it's better.
> >
> > Guillaume
> >
> > Le mer. 20 févr. 2019 à 08:28, Burkard Stephan
> >  a écrit :
> >
> >> Hi all
> >>
> >> +1 for "Integrate everything!"
> >> because it is short, catchy and it refers to Camels outstanding
> >> versatility with its hundreds of components.
> >>
> >> It is true that Camel has a lot of other noteworthy features like
> >> runtime flexibility etc. but as soon as the tagline wants to cover
> >> multiple things, it gets "bulky" or "buzzwordy".
> >>
> >> To link the tagline back to the project name and add a pinch of humor
> >> it could also be "Integrate everything without humps" ;-)
> >>
> >
> >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> >> Von: Steve Huston 
> >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2019 18:32
> >> An: users@camel.apache.org
> >> Betreff: RE: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline
> >>
> >> "Integrate everything!"
> >>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: Claus Ibsen 
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 10:52 AM
> >>> To: users@camel.apache.org
> >>> Subject: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline
> >>>
> >>> Hi
> >>>
> >>> As part of Apache Camel 3, we are working on a new modern website
> >>> (yeah its long overdue, but work are in progress).
> >>>
> >>> As part of that, we should get a new front-page with a new short
> >>> summary what Apache Camel is (eg a tagline).
> >>>
> >>> It would be good to get some ideas rolling what such a tagline could
> >>> be and for users of Camel to come up with suggestions.
> >>>
> >>> As Apache Camel has been around for so long, and that it covers so
> >>> many different use-cases, then its maybe harder to come up with a
> >>> single tag-line that spans all use-cases.
> >>>
> >>> However with the new modern world of containers I came up with:
> >>>
> >>> * Apache Camel 3 - A full-stack integration framework for building
> >>> cloud- native micro integrations
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Claus Ibsen
> >>> -
> >>>
> http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=6600=kqnt3DZnRVRDxGKB9mE1Jedd8mhb_nMw1qmhjeAI_A=33=http%3a%2f%2fdavsclaus%2ecom
> @davsclaus
> >>> Camel in Action 2:
> https://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=6600=kqnt3DZnRVRDxGKB9mE1Jedd8mhb_nMw1qav2Operw=33=https%3a%2f%2fwww%2emanning%2ecom%2fibsen2
> >
>
> Vhi Group DAC (Vhi) is a holding company for insurance and healthcare
> services, which include Vhi Healthcare DAC, Vhi Insurance DAC, Vhi Health
> Services DAC and Vhi Investments DAC. Vhi Healthcare DAC trading as Vhi
> Healthcare and Vhi Insurance DAC trading as Vhi Insurance are regulated by
> the Central Bank of Ireland. Vhi Healthcare is tied to Vhi Insurance DAC
> for health insurance in Ireland which is underwritten by Vhi Insurance DAC.
> Vhi Healthcare is tied to Zurich Life Assurance plc for Vhi Life Term
> Insurance and Vhi Mortgage Protection which is underwritten by Zurich Life
> Assurance plc. Vhi Healthcare is tied to Collinson Insurance Services
> Limited for MultiTrip Travel Insurance, Backpacker Travel Insurance and Vhi
> Dental Insurance which are underwritten by Great Lakes Insurance SE, UK
> branch and for Vhi Canada Cover and Vhi International Health Insurance
> which are underwritten by Astrenska Insurance Limited. For more information
> about the Vhi Group please go to: https://www.vhi.ie/about-vhi.
>
>
> Tá Vhi Group DAC (Vhi) ina chuideachta sealbhaíochta le haghaidh seirbhísí
> árachais agus seirbhísí cúram sláinte, lena n-áirítear Vhi Healthcare DAC,
> Vhi Insurance DAC, Vhi Health Services DAC agus Vhi Investments DAC.
> Déanann Banc Ceannais na hÉireann rialáil ar Vhi Healthcare DAC, ag trádáil
> dó mar Vhi Healthcare, agus ar Vhi Insurance DAC, ag 

RE: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline

2019-02-20 Thread Valdis Andersons
+1 for "Integrate Everything!"

-Original Message-
From: Francois Papon [mailto:francois.pa...@openobject.fr] 
Sent: 20 February 2019 10:19
To: users@camel.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline

Hi,

I'm agree with Guillaume about not focuses too much on cloud, Camel can be use 
in many other cases.

We can also have:

"Integrate the world" or "Integrate your business"

It's just ideas and may be too "enterprise"...

regards,

François Papon
fpa...@apache.org

Le 20/02/2019 à 11:38, Guillaume Nodet a écrit :
>> Apache Camel 3 - A full-stack integration framework for building 
>> cloud-native micro integrations
>>
> I think the proposed tagline focuses too much on cloud, and even if 
> that's definitely something we want to emphasize in the set of 
> capabilities that Camel provides, having it in the tag line kinda 
> implies that Camel is mainly focusing on cloud and not traditional 
> integration.
>
>
>> "Integrate everything"
>> "Integrate everything without humps" ;-)
>>
> +1 I like both a lot.
>
> In the same direction, and to keep the versatile side we could have:
>   "Integrate everything everywhere"
> but not sure it's better.
>
> Guillaume
>
> Le mer. 20 févr. 2019 à 08:28, Burkard Stephan 
>  a écrit :
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> +1 for "Integrate everything!"
>> because it is short, catchy and it refers to Camels outstanding 
>> versatility with its hundreds of components.
>>
>> It is true that Camel has a lot of other noteworthy features like 
>> runtime flexibility etc. but as soon as the tagline wants to cover 
>> multiple things, it gets "bulky" or "buzzwordy".
>>
>> To link the tagline back to the project name and add a pinch of humor 
>> it could also be "Integrate everything without humps" ;-)
>>
>
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: Steve Huston 
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2019 18:32
>> An: users@camel.apache.org
>> Betreff: RE: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline
>>
>> "Integrate everything!"
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Claus Ibsen 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 10:52 AM
>>> To: users@camel.apache.org
>>> Subject: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> As part of Apache Camel 3, we are working on a new modern website
>>> (yeah its long overdue, but work are in progress).
>>>
>>> As part of that, we should get a new front-page with a new short
>>> summary what Apache Camel is (eg a tagline).
>>>
>>> It would be good to get some ideas rolling what such a tagline could
>>> be and for users of Camel to come up with suggestions.
>>>
>>> As Apache Camel has been around for so long, and that it covers so
>>> many different use-cases, then its maybe harder to come up with a
>>> single tag-line that spans all use-cases.
>>>
>>> However with the new modern world of containers I came up with:
>>>
>>> * Apache Camel 3 - A full-stack integration framework for building
>>> cloud- native micro integrations
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Claus Ibsen
>>> -
>>> http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=6600=kqnt3DZnRVRDxGKB9mE1Jedd8mhb_nMw1qmhjeAI_A=33=http%3a%2f%2fdavsclaus%2ecom
>>>  @davsclaus
>>> Camel in Action 2: 
>>> https://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=6600=kqnt3DZnRVRDxGKB9mE1Jedd8mhb_nMw1qav2Operw=33=https%3a%2f%2fwww%2emanning%2ecom%2fibsen2
>

Vhi Group DAC (Vhi) is a holding company for insurance and healthcare services, 
which include Vhi Healthcare DAC, Vhi Insurance DAC, Vhi Health Services DAC 
and Vhi Investments DAC. Vhi Healthcare DAC trading as Vhi Healthcare and Vhi 
Insurance DAC trading as Vhi Insurance are regulated by the Central Bank of 
Ireland. Vhi Healthcare is tied to Vhi Insurance DAC for health insurance in 
Ireland which is underwritten by Vhi Insurance DAC. Vhi Healthcare is tied to 
Zurich Life Assurance plc for Vhi Life Term Insurance and Vhi Mortgage 
Protection which is underwritten by Zurich Life Assurance plc. Vhi Healthcare 
is tied to Collinson Insurance Services Limited for MultiTrip Travel Insurance, 
Backpacker Travel Insurance and Vhi Dental Insurance which are underwritten by 
Great Lakes Insurance SE, UK branch and for Vhi Canada Cover and Vhi 
International Health Insurance which are underwritten by Astrenska Insurance 
Limited. For more information about the Vhi Group please go to: 
https://www.vhi.ie/about-vhi. 


Tá Vhi Group DAC (Vhi) ina chuideachta sealbhaíochta le haghaidh seirbhísí 
árachais agus seirbhísí cúram sláinte, lena n-áirítear Vhi Healthcare DAC, Vhi 
Insurance DAC, Vhi Health Services DAC agus Vhi Investments DAC. Déanann Banc 
Ceannais na hÉireann rialáil ar Vhi Healthcare DAC, ag trádáil dó mar Vhi 
Healthcare, agus ar Vhi Insurance DAC, ag trádáil dó mar Vhi Insurance. Tá Vhi 
Healthcare ceangailte le Vhi Insurance DAC le haghaidh árachas sláinte in 
Éirinn, rud atá frithgheallta ag Vhi Insurance DAC. Tá Vhi Healthcare 
ceangailte le Zurich Life Assurance plc le haghaidh Árachais Saoil de chuid Vhi 
agus Árachas Cosanta Morgáiste de chuid Vhi 

Re: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline

2019-02-20 Thread Francois Papon
Hi,

I'm agree with Guillaume about not focuses too much on cloud, Camel can
be use in many other cases.

We can also have:

"Integrate the world" or "Integrate your business"

It's just ideas and may be too "enterprise"...

regards,

François Papon
fpa...@apache.org

Le 20/02/2019 à 11:38, Guillaume Nodet a écrit :
>> Apache Camel 3 - A full-stack integration framework for building
>> cloud-native micro integrations
>>
> I think the proposed tagline focuses too much on cloud, and even if that's
> definitely something we want to emphasize in the set of capabilities that
> Camel provides, having it in the tag line kinda implies that Camel is
> mainly focusing on cloud and not traditional integration.
>
>
>> "Integrate everything"
>> "Integrate everything without humps" ;-)
>>
> +1 I like both a lot.
>
> In the same direction, and to keep the versatile side we could have:
>   "Integrate everything everywhere"
> but not sure it's better.
>
> Guillaume
>
> Le mer. 20 févr. 2019 à 08:28, Burkard Stephan 
> a écrit :
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> +1 for "Integrate everything!"
>> because it is short, catchy and it refers to Camels outstanding
>> versatility with its hundreds of components.
>>
>> It is true that Camel has a lot of other noteworthy features like runtime
>> flexibility etc. but as soon as the tagline wants to cover multiple things,
>> it gets "bulky" or "buzzwordy".
>>
>> To link the tagline back to the project name and add a pinch of humor it
>> could also be
>> "Integrate everything without humps" ;-)
>>
>
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: Steve Huston 
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2019 18:32
>> An: users@camel.apache.org
>> Betreff: RE: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline
>>
>> "Integrate everything!"
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Claus Ibsen 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 10:52 AM
>>> To: users@camel.apache.org
>>> Subject: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> As part of Apache Camel 3, we are working on a new modern website
>>> (yeah its long overdue, but work are in progress).
>>>
>>> As part of that, we should get a new front-page with a new short
>>> summary what Apache Camel is (eg a tagline).
>>>
>>> It would be good to get some ideas rolling what such a tagline could
>>> be and for users of Camel to come up with suggestions.
>>>
>>> As Apache Camel has been around for so long, and that it covers so
>>> many different use-cases, then its maybe harder to come up with a
>>> single tag-line that spans all use-cases.
>>>
>>> However with the new modern world of containers I came up with:
>>>
>>> * Apache Camel 3 - A full-stack integration framework for building
>>> cloud- native micro integrations
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Claus Ibsen
>>> -
>>> http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
>>> Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
>



Fwd: httpj:engine-factory setting in JAVADSL way

2019-02-20 Thread Wang Yan
-I found one soultion , sslconfig.xml is the xml defined httpj-enginge stuff

 * @ImportResource( value= { "classpath:config/sslconfig.xml",
 * "classpath:META-INF/cxf/cxf.xml"})

i followd the example below
did something like  cxfProducerEndpoint.setSslContextParameters(
producerSslContextParameters);


but i when i want to dynamically load those xml files , it does not work,
it looks the GenericApplicationContext does not know ApplicationContext and
CamelContext.
therefore bean loaded in GenericApplicationContext  could not be used
/accessed by camelcontext
Any idea how to dynamically load those xml defination files?

@PostConstruct
public void init() throws Exception {
if (isSoapProviderSSL) {
PathMatchingResourcePatternResolver pmrl = new
PathMatchingResourcePatternResolver(
context.getClassLoader());
List resources = new ArrayList();
resources.add(pmrl.getResource("classpath:config/sslconfig.xml"));
resources.add(pmrl.getResource("classpath:META-INF/cxf/cxf.xml"));
GenericApplicationContext createdContext = new
GenericApplicationContext(context);
resources.forEach(r -> {
XmlBeanDefinitionReader reader = new
XmlBeanDefinitionReader(createdContext);
int beanCount = reader.loadBeanDefinitions(r);
LOG.info("Bean loaded number {} ", beanCount);
createdContext.refresh();
});
}
}


https://www.programcreek.com/java-api-examples/?code=wildfly-extras/wildfly-camel-examples/wildfly-camel-examples-master/camel-cxf-jaxws-cdi-secure/src/main/java/org/wildfly/camel/examples/cxf/jaxws/Application.java



but got problme like Caused by: java.io.IOException: Protocol mismatch for
port 9009: engine's protocol is http, the url protocol is https
at
org.apache.cxf.transport.http_jetty.JettyHTTPServerEngineFactory.createJettyHTTPServerEngine(JettyHTTPServerEngineFactory.java:277)

~[cxf-rt-transports
at
org.apache.cxf.transport.http_jetty.JettyHTTPServerEngineFactory.createJettyHTTPServerEngine(JettyHTTPServerEngineFactory.java:307)

~[cxf-rt-transports
at
org.apache.cxf.transport.http_jetty.JettyHTTPDestination.retrieveEngine(JettyHTTPDestination.java:134)

~[cxf-rt-transports-http-jetty-3.2.7.jar!/:3.2.7
at
org.apache.cxf.transport.http_jetty.JettyHTTPDestination.finalizeConfig(JettyHTTPDestination.java:166)

~[cxf-rt-transports-http-jetty-3.2.7.jar!/:3.2.7
-- Forwarded message -
From: Wang Yan <[hidden email]
>
Date: Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 4:35 PM
Subject: httpj:engine-factory setting in JAVADSL way
To: <[hidden email] >



My CXF Endpoint Provider need to using https.
I found setting like below should work, but i did not found how to do it in
JAVADSL
because my route is JAVADSL

Any hints are more than welcome!











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Re: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline

2019-02-20 Thread Tadayoshi Sato
Hi folks,

* Apache Camel 3 - A full-stack integration framework for building
> cloud-native micro integrations


To be honest, I love the *lightweight-ness* of Apache Camel but the word
"full-stack" sounds like a rather heavier, opinionated framework that
enforces developers how an app should be programmed.

I don't have a talent to come up with catchy taglines, so let me just point
to some known ones:
https://github.com/apache/camel/blob/master/docs/user-manual/en/faq/why-the-name-camel.adoc

   -

   You can go a long way with Camel!
   -

   Don’t get the hump get Camel!
   -

   No where to evolve to? Get Camel!
   -

   One hump or two?
   -

   Don’t get lost in a desert of XML config files, get Camel!
   -

   It’s not a mirage, it’s a Camel!



On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 12:52 AM Claus Ibsen  wrote:

> Hi
>
> As part of Apache Camel 3, we are working on a new modern website
> (yeah its long overdue, but work are in progress).
>
> As part of that, we should get a new front-page with a new short
> summary what Apache Camel is (eg a tagline).
>
> It would be good to get some ideas rolling what such a tagline could
> be and for users of Camel to come up with suggestions.
>
> As Apache Camel has been around for so long, and that it covers so
> many different use-cases, then its maybe harder to come up with a
> single tag-line that spans all use-cases.
>
> However with the new modern world of containers I came up with:
>
> * Apache Camel 3 - A full-stack integration framework for building
> cloud-native micro integrations
>
>
>
> --
> Claus Ibsen
> -
> http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
> Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
>


Re: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline

2019-02-20 Thread ski n
It can be straight-forward like:

"Apache Integration Framework"

Apache, because it's well-known and trusted
Integration Framework, because that's what it is.

If it needs to be more punchy than

"Integrate everything"

Sounds good to me. Alternative taglines:

Integration for all with all
Integration framework, that let integration work
Get your data together
IF Camel, what ELSE (where IF=Integration Framework)

Raymond



Op wo 20 feb. 2019 om 08:38 schreef Guillaume Nodet :

> > Apache Camel 3 - A full-stack integration framework for building
> > cloud-native micro integrations
> >
>
> I think the proposed tagline focuses too much on cloud, and even if that's
> definitely something we want to emphasize in the set of capabilities that
> Camel provides, having it in the tag line kinda implies that Camel is
> mainly focusing on cloud and not traditional integration.
>
>
> > "Integrate everything"
> > "Integrate everything without humps" ;-)
> >
>
> +1 I like both a lot.
>
> In the same direction, and to keep the versatile side we could have:
>   "Integrate everything everywhere"
> but not sure it's better.
>
> Guillaume
>
> Le mer. 20 févr. 2019 à 08:28, Burkard Stephan 
> a écrit :
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > +1 for "Integrate everything!"
> > because it is short, catchy and it refers to Camels outstanding
> > versatility with its hundreds of components.
> >
> > It is true that Camel has a lot of other noteworthy features like runtime
> > flexibility etc. but as soon as the tagline wants to cover multiple
> things,
> > it gets "bulky" or "buzzwordy".
> >
> > To link the tagline back to the project name and add a pinch of humor it
> > could also be
> > "Integrate everything without humps" ;-)
> >
>
>
> >
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: Steve Huston 
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2019 18:32
> > An: users@camel.apache.org
> > Betreff: RE: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline
> >
> > "Integrate everything!"
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Claus Ibsen 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 10:52 AM
> > > To: users@camel.apache.org
> > > Subject: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 3 - A new tagline
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > As part of Apache Camel 3, we are working on a new modern website
> > > (yeah its long overdue, but work are in progress).
> > >
> > > As part of that, we should get a new front-page with a new short
> > > summary what Apache Camel is (eg a tagline).
> > >
> > > It would be good to get some ideas rolling what such a tagline could
> > > be and for users of Camel to come up with suggestions.
> > >
> > > As Apache Camel has been around for so long, and that it covers so
> > > many different use-cases, then its maybe harder to come up with a
> > > single tag-line that spans all use-cases.
> > >
> > > However with the new modern world of containers I came up with:
> > >
> > > * Apache Camel 3 - A full-stack integration framework for building
> > > cloud- native micro integrations
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Claus Ibsen
> > > -
> > > http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
> > > Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
> >
>
>
> --
> 
> Guillaume Nodet
>