Re: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE
I'm getting 404s from both. Has this been withdrawn? On 2 October 2013 14:27, gliesian glies...@yahoo.com wrote: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE http://gliesian.com/camel/TheCamelComponentPosterWithWatermark.pdf The Camel Components Poster - PRINTED - NOT SO FREE http://fineartamerica.com/featured/the-camel-components-poster-robert-liguori.html -- Robert -- View this message in context: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/The-Camel-Components-Poster-PDF-FREE-tp5740752.html Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE
No, this has not been withdrawn, but the URLs have changed: The Apache Camel Components Poster (Free JPG) http://gliesian.com/camel/ApacheCamelComponents.jpg The Apache Camel Components Poster (Printed) http://fineartamerica.com/featured/apache-camel-components-poster-gliesian-llc.html JavaRanch Book Promotion https://www.coderanch.com/how-to/java/BookPromotionsSchedule Thanks, Robert From: James Green [via Camel] ml-node+s465427n5741091...@n5.nabble.com To: Robert James Liguori glies...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 3:57 AM Subject: Re: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE I'm getting 404s from both. Has this been withdrawn? On 2 October 2013 14:27, gliesian [hidden email] wrote: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE http://gliesian.com/camel/TheCamelComponentPosterWithWatermark.pdf The Camel Components Poster - PRINTED - NOT SO FREE http://fineartamerica.com/featured/the-camel-components-poster-robert-liguori.html -- Robert -- View this message in context: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/The-Camel-Components-Poster-PDF-FREE-tp5740752.html Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below:http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/The-Camel-Components-Poster-PDF-FREE-tp5740752p5741091.html To unsubscribe from The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE, click here. NAML -- View this message in context: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/The-Camel-Components-Poster-PDF-FREE-tp5740752p5741124.html Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE
No, this has not been withdrawn, but the URLs have changed: The Apache Camel Components Poster (Free JPG) http://gliesian.com/camel/ApacheCamelComponents.jpg The Apache Camel Components Poster (Printed) http://fineartamerica.com/featured/apache-camel-components-poster-gliesian-llc.html JavaRanch Book Promotion https://www.coderanch.com/how-to/java/BookPromotionsSchedule Thanks, Robert From: James Green [via Camel] ml-node+s465427n5741091...@n5.nabble.com To: Robert James Liguori glies...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 3:57 AM Subject: Re: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE I'm getting 404s from both. Has this been withdrawn? On 2 October 2013 14:27, gliesian [hidden email] wrote: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE http://gliesian.com/camel/TheCamelComponentPosterWithWatermark.pdf The Camel Components Poster - PRINTED - NOT SO FREE http://fineartamerica.com/featured/the-camel-components-poster-robert-liguori.html -- Robert -- View this message in context: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/The-Camel-Components-Poster-PDF-FREE-tp5740752.html Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below:http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/The-Camel-Components-Poster-PDF-FREE-tp5740752p5741091.html To unsubscribe from The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE, click here. NAML
Re: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE
No, this has not been withdrawn, but the URLs have changed: The Apache Camel Components Poster (Free JPG) http://gliesian.com/camel/ApacheCamelComponents.jpg The Apache Camel Components Poster (Printed) http://fineartamerica.com/featured/apache-camel-components-poster-gliesian-llc.html JavaRanch Book Promotion https://www.coderanch.com/how-to/java/BookPromotionsSchedule Thanks, Robert -- View this message in context: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/The-Camel-Components-Poster-PDF-FREE-tp5740752p5741127.html Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE
I consider this issue as resolved. See [1] for details. [1] camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/Revoked-contribution-rights-td5740922.html Best, Christian - Software Integration Specialist Apache Camel committer: https://camel.apache.org/team V.P. Apache Camel: https://www.apache.org/foundation/ Apache Member: https://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html https://www.linkedin.com/pub/christian-mueller/11/551/642 On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Christian Müller christian.muel...@gmail.com wrote: @Shane, trademarks@, private@: We handle this issue. Please ignore this noise... @Robert, please stopping to send this message to so many list and bother people who cannot help with this. I already respond here [1]. If you still cannot edit the WIKI page, please use this mail thread to respond. [1] http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/Revoked-contribution-rights-td5740922.html Best, Christian - Software Integration Specialist Apache Camel committer: https://camel.apache.org/team V.P. Apache Camel: https://www.apache.org/foundation/ Apache Member: https://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html https://www.linkedin.com/pub/christian-mueller/11/551/642 On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Robert James Liguori glies...@yahoo.comwrote: It's for the account with rob...@gliesian.com as the username... still not giving me access. -- *From:* Robert James Liguori glies...@yahoo.com *To:* Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org; tradema...@apache.org tradema...@apache.org; rob...@gliesian.com rob...@gliesian.com *Cc:* Christian Müller christian.muel...@gmail.com; priv...@camel.apache.org priv...@camel.apache.org *Sent:* Saturday, October 5, 2013 10:09 AM *Subject:* Re: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE Hi, It appears as if my confluence edit right have been revoked? Can someone tell me why I can no longer edit the web pages on camel.apache.org? Thanks, Robert
Re: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE
The velocity component was missing in the Templates section on the Grouped Component List wiki page. I added it yesterday, but I suspect it was consequently missing too from the poster. I can't confirm it now because the latter is no longer accessible, which is a good thing until the trademark issues are resolved ;-) Given that you'll be recognizing the Apache brand properly on the title, does it make sense to explicitly mark those components which aren't Apache-hosted due to licensing issues, to avoid confusion? See the camel-extra repo [1]. A symbol, a greyed-out background or a short text should suffice. I think some of these components are listed in the poster, but not all (you could perhaps even add them all). I can't confirm now due to the reason above. I hope I'm not going overboard with my requests! [1] https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/camel-extra/ Regards, *Raúl Kripalani* Apache Camel PMC Member Committer | Enterprise Architect, Open Source Integration specialist http://about.me/raulkripalani | http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani http://blog.raulkr.net | twitter: @raulvk On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 11:02 PM, gliesian glies...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks for the information and guidance. I will make the necessary updates to the poster tonight. If anyone else has information or direction to offer, please advise me. Thanks, Robert -- View this message in context: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/The-Camel-Components-Poster-PDF-FREE-tp5740752p5740904.html Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE
Thank you for pointing out Velocity being missing. This will have to be added to the next update of the poster. In regards to external components, I included all external components that I was aware of with indirect references in two places (that they are not part of the base Camel distribution)... (1) Bottom left now says: Apache Camel 2.12.1 and external components and (2) external components all have [in [GroupId]] immediately after the ArtifactIds. This should be good enough as indications that the components are external. Followed up to this, the Apache web page of components is on the bottom right where the user of the poster can get additional information if need be: http://camel.apache.org/components.html. Thank you for your observations, information and suggestions. Thanks, Robert -- View this message in context: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/The-Camel-Components-Poster-PDF-FREE-tp5740752p5740921.html Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE
Posters now start at $13.00: http://fineartamerica.com/featured/the-camel-components-poster-robert-liguori.html -- Robert -- View this message in context: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/The-Camel-Components-Poster-PDF-FREE-tp5740752p5740836.html Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE
Hi James, I looked at the cover of the Camel in Action book and Apache is not mentioned anywhere: http://www.amazon.com/Camel-Action-Claus-Ibsen/dp/1935182366/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1380838736sr=8-1keywords=camel+in+action So, I figured that the approach I took with the title of the poster was okay, The Camel Components Poster. I do mention Apache in a few places on the poster... (1) Bottom left: Camel Components (Apache and External) (2) Bottom right: http://camel.apache.org/components.html (3) In some of the descriptions: e.g. Apache ServiceMix. I can update the poster anyway that is appropriate, please just let me know exactly what to do, and I will do it. Sincerely, Robert Liguori -- View this message in context: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/The-Camel-Components-Poster-PDF-FREE-tp5740752p5740847.html Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE
Since I will be doing updates to this poster, if anyone else sees any issues on it, please let me know... For example, -- Are there missing components? -- Did I group the components improperly, if so, how can I improve the groupings? -- Are any of the descriptions incomplete or poorly worded? -- Can anyone offer a better Format URI for any components? -- Any trademark issues -- etc. Either post here are email me at Robert at gliesian dot com. Note: Another option... this was done in Adobe InDesign... I could just give the associated files to the Camel project to be checked in to version control for their own maintenance (with each build)... but I'm not sure how efficient the product would be In regards to making new physical versions available for purchase. Any thoughts let me know. I guess the goals are (1) to keep the poster up to date and (2) make it easily available to the user community in both PDF and physical form. Thanks, Robert -- View this message in context: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/The-Camel-Components-Poster-PDF-FREE-tp5740752p5740849.html Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE
Hi Robert! Thanks for your good work. We appreciate it. It looks really cool and I think this poster provides a good overview which components do we have in each particular area. As outlined in [1] and mentioned by James, you should - refer to The Apache Camel Components Poster instead of The Camel Components Poster Thanks for your cooperation and willing to update the poster. I don't think it's an issue to have the GLIESIAN, LLC. whatermark and footer, but prefer to have the trademarks ok. Therefore, I also put trademarks@ in CC to request their permission that you can publish/sell this poster [2] after the mentioned update. [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#guidelines [2] http://gliesian.com/camel/TheCamelComponentPosterWithWatermark.pdf Best, Christian Müller V.P. Apache Camel On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:22 AM, gliesian glies...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi James, I looked at the cover of the Camel in Action book and Apache is not mentioned anywhere: http://www.amazon.com/Camel-Action-Claus-Ibsen/dp/1935182366/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1380838736sr=8-1keywords=camel+in+action So, I figured that the approach I took with the title of the poster was okay, The Camel Components Poster. I do mention Apache in a few places on the poster... (1) Bottom left: Camel Components (Apache and External) (2) Bottom right: http://camel.apache.org/components.html (3) In some of the descriptions: e.g. Apache ServiceMix. I can update the poster anyway that is appropriate, please just let me know exactly what to do, and I will do it. Sincerely, Robert Liguori -- View this message in context: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/The-Camel-Components-Poster-PDF-FREE-tp5740752p5740847.html Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE
Thanks, Shane! We appreciate your guidance. James On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: (Please note the mix of mailing lists) The most important thing is that Apache product brands are referred to by their full name - i.e. Apache Camel - in at least both the first and most prominent places in a document. That means the title (either graphically in the display, or the window title in a PDF viewer, whatever) should include Apache Camel wherever practical. Beyond that, this looks like a great poster; I wasn't even aware of how many different direct integration points are already out there! Since this is clearly educational materials, a cheatsheet, or additional documentation about Apache Camel and related software that goes above and beyond what the camel.apache.org website provides as normal documentation, it's perfectly appropriate to include a footer or other Created by attribution for whoever does the work to create this. So the logo in the footer is fine, especially because it's not directly with the Camel name or logo. It's certainly appropriate for your company to get credit for the design! As a volunteer-run public charity that produces software for the public good, we need to ensure that our trademarks are respected, especially by software vendors of all stripes. However outside individuals and companies producing extra educational materials about Apache software - like training, books, and cool API docs like this - can help users to find out about and make use of Apache software, which is a benefit to everyone. As long as our brands are respected, we definitely appreciate the work people do like this. Thanks, - Shane Curcuru VP, Brand Management On 10/4/13 5:00 PM, Christian Müller wrote: Hi Robert! Thanks for your good work. We appreciate it. It looks really cool and I think this poster provides a good overview which components do we have in each particular area. As outlined in [1] and mentioned by James, you should - refer to The Apache Camel Components Poster instead of The Camel Components Poster Thanks for your cooperation and willing to update the poster. I don't think it's an issue to have the GLIESIAN, LLC. whatermark and footer, but prefer to have the trademarks ok. Therefore, I also put trademarks@ in CC to request their permission that you can publish/sell this poster [2] after the mentioned update. [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#guidelines [2] http://gliesian.com/camel/TheCamelComponentPosterWithWatermark.pdf Best, Christian Müller V.P. Apache Camel On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:22 AM, gliesian glies...@yahoo.com mailto:glies...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi James, I looked at the cover of the Camel in Action book and Apache is not mentioned anywhere: http://www.amazon.com/Camel-Action-Claus-Ibsen/dp/1935182366/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1380838736sr=8-1keywords=camel+in+action So, I figured that the approach I took with the title of the poster was okay, The Camel Components Poster. I do mention Apache in a few places on the poster... (1) Bottom left: Camel Components (Apache and External) (2) Bottom right: http://camel.apache.org/components.html (3) In some of the descriptions: e.g. Apache ServiceMix. I can update the poster anyway that is appropriate, please just let me know exactly what to do, and I will do it. Sincerely, Robert Liguori -- View this message in context: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/The-Camel-Components-Poster-PDF-FREE-tp5740752p5740847.html Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE
Thanks for the information and guidance. I will make the necessary updates to the poster tonight. If anyone else has information or direction to offer, please advise me. Thanks, Robert -- View this message in context: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/The-Camel-Components-Poster-PDF-FREE-tp5740752p5740904.html Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE
Robert, Many thanks for this fantastic contribution to the Camel community! I did vote for another design but I liked this one too ;-) Given that the Camel component catalogue is ever expanding, it would be a good idea to include the Camel version line that the poster applies to. I guess it's too late for that? Keep it up! Regards, *Raúl Kripalani* Apache Camel PMC Member Committer | Enterprise Architect, Open Source Integration specialist http://about.me/raulkripalani | http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani http://blog.raulkr.net | twitter: @raulvk On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 2:27 PM, gliesian glies...@yahoo.com wrote: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE http://gliesian.com/camel/TheCamelComponentPosterWithWatermark.pdf The Camel Components Poster - PRINTED - NOT SO FREE http://fineartamerica.com/featured/the-camel-components-poster-robert-liguori.html -- Robert -- View this message in context: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/The-Camel-Components-Poster-PDF-FREE-tp5740752.html Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE
You might want to run that thing by the trademarks folks if you're going to be selling it or having folks print it. You might need to have it say Apache Camel. On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Raul Kripalani r...@evosent.com wrote: Robert, Many thanks for this fantastic contribution to the Camel community! I did vote for another design but I liked this one too ;-) Given that the Camel component catalogue is ever expanding, it would be a good idea to include the Camel version line that the poster applies to. I guess it's too late for that? Keep it up! Regards, *Raúl Kripalani* Apache Camel PMC Member Committer | Enterprise Architect, Open Source Integration specialist http://about.me/raulkripalani | http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani http://blog.raulkr.net | twitter: @raulvk On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 2:27 PM, gliesian glies...@yahoo.com wrote: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE http://gliesian.com/camel/TheCamelComponentPosterWithWatermark.pdf The Camel Components Poster - PRINTED - NOT SO FREE http://fineartamerica.com/featured/the-camel-components-poster-robert-liguori.html -- Robert -- View this message in context: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/The-Camel-Components-Poster-PDF-FREE-tp5740752.html Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE
Looks like Zazzle is in the $10 range. Haven't used them... http://www.zazzle.com/custom/posters On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 6:01 PM, James Carman ja...@carmanconsulting.comwrote: You might want to run that thing by the trademarks folks if you're going to be selling it or having folks print it. You might need to have it say Apache Camel. On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Raul Kripalani r...@evosent.com wrote: Robert, Many thanks for this fantastic contribution to the Camel community! I did vote for another design but I liked this one too ;-) Given that the Camel component catalogue is ever expanding, it would be a good idea to include the Camel version line that the poster applies to. I guess it's too late for that? Keep it up! Regards, *Raúl Kripalani* Apache Camel PMC Member Committer | Enterprise Architect, Open Source Integration specialist http://about.me/raulkripalani | http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani http://blog.raulkr.net | twitter: @raulvk On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 2:27 PM, gliesian glies...@yahoo.com wrote: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE http://gliesian.com/camel/TheCamelComponentPosterWithWatermark.pdf The Camel Components Poster - PRINTED - NOT SO FREE http://fineartamerica.com/featured/the-camel-components-poster-robert-liguori.html -- Robert -- View this message in context: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/The-Camel-Components-Poster-PDF-FREE-tp5740752.html Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE
Robert, I'd hang on a bit before you start printing these things off. We may need to get permission to do so first (http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#guidelines). Okay? Thank you for the hard work and time you've put into this thing, though! Let's just make sure it's legit before we start telling people to print it or buy it or whatever. Thanks, James Carman, Assistant Secretary Apache Software Foundation On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:27 AM, gliesian glies...@yahoo.com wrote: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE http://gliesian.com/camel/TheCamelComponentPosterWithWatermark.pdf The Camel Components Poster - PRINTED - NOT SO FREE http://fineartamerica.com/featured/the-camel-components-poster-robert-liguori.html -- Robert -- View this message in context: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/The-Camel-Components-Poster-PDF-FREE-tp5740752.html Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE
Robert the poster looks really good. Thanks for doing this. The community own you a round of beers. I assuming having a designer setting up this cost some $ out of your pocket. On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 3:27 PM, gliesian glies...@yahoo.com wrote: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE http://gliesian.com/camel/TheCamelComponentPosterWithWatermark.pdf The Camel Components Poster - PRINTED - NOT SO FREE http://fineartamerica.com/featured/the-camel-components-poster-robert-liguori.html -- Robert -- View this message in context: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/The-Camel-Components-Poster-PDF-FREE-tp5740752.html Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Claus Ibsen - Red Hat, Inc. Email: cib...@redhat.com Twitter: davsclaus Blog: http://davsclaus.com Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
Re: The Camel Components Poster - PDF - FREE
Oh, you are welcome. :) So... I ran a contest on 99Designs... this vehicle cost me ~ $339 (for the contest and extra advertising, trying to get designers). After the contest completed, I made the PDF available for free, as my goals are not to profit off of the electronic version, but to try and break even on the physical version... but I actually really doubt if I will every break even on it. I haven't figured out how to get a ~ $10 poster version of it on the market yet, but in the interim, I set up a page on Fine Art America: http://fineartamerica.com/featured/the-camel-components-poster-robert-liguori.html to make a 36x24 inch poster available. But because of how that site works, the product is very expensive: $ 66.00. For myself, I did order two from a printing website for $70.29. Note that I did this effort to learn about the Camel components at 30,000 feet and to help evangelize the product, as it is so useful. But if anyone wants to buy the poster from fineartamerica.com (noted above)... it's a nice product and will help me get some of the money back that I put in for creating it. Or you could just take the PDF I have provided (with the watermark), and print your own through a printing web site (like I did), you'll save at least 1/3 of the cost. ... or just wait to see if I can figure out how to get the poster out at an affordable cost, but in reality, this may never happen. So, enjoy the free PDF version: http://gliesian.com/camel/TheCamelComponentPosterWithWatermark.pdf And happy Camel riding! Thanks, Robert -- View this message in context: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/The-Camel-Components-Poster-PDF-FREE-tp5740752p5740772.html Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
