Re: [DISCUSS] New default template
My small additions. I would go with an LTS version. For me it would be CentOS 8 minimal. I agree with Paul sometimes the upstream repo are gone or in archive state and its not for production use. Maybe we can put one of them to „our“ Cloudstack repo. If we use Ubuntu or CentOS is not so important both are LTS versions. Maybe we should find a regular way after some time to switch to a newer one. So there is no productive use and normally everybody should know that he don’t use this in a production environment. We can’t address all security issues from the os. Maybe we should hint the users and at the end of the day its their own risk if they use this. Cheers Sven __ Sven Vogel Lead Cloud Solution Architect EWERK DIGITAL GmbH Brühl 24, D-04109 Leipzig P +49 341 42649 - 99 F +49 341 42649 - 98 s.vo...@ewerk.com www.ewerk.com Geschäftsführer: Dr. Erik Wende, Hendrik Schubert, Tassilo Möschke Registergericht: Leipzig HRB 9065 Zertifiziert nach: ISO/IEC 27001:2013 DIN EN ISO 9001:2015 DIN ISO/IEC 2-1:2011 EWERK-Blog | LinkedIn | Xing | Twitter | Facebook Auskünfte und Angebote per Mail sind freibleibend und unverbindlich. Disclaimer Privacy: Der Inhalt dieser E-Mail (einschließlich etwaiger beigefügter Dateien) ist vertraulich und nur für den Empfänger bestimmt. Sollten Sie nicht der bestimmungsgemäße Empfänger sein, ist Ihnen jegliche Offenlegung, Vervielfältigung, Weitergabe oder Nutzung des Inhalts untersagt. Bitte informieren Sie in diesem Fall unverzüglich den Absender und löschen Sie die E-Mail (einschließlich etwaiger beigefügter Dateien) von Ihrem System. Vielen Dank. The contents of this e-mail (including any attachments) are confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of its contents is strictly prohibited, and you should please notify the sender immediately and then delete it (including any attachments) from your system. Thank you. > Am 08.06.2020 um 16:21 schrieb Paul Angus : > > My 2 cents: > > The default template is not there for general or even production use, it’s > there for people to 'kick the tires' and either see if CloudStack is what > they want or check that their installation is generally OK. > > Therefore (IMO) the pre-requisites are: > > - small download size > - compatibility across all of our supported hypervisors > - compatibility with all CloudStack features; i.e. live memory and CPU > addition, hot disk-pluging, live migrations which require hypervisor tools > installed, passing of user-data, meta-data, ssh keys and password resets to > the VM via VR and config-drive. > - OS commands that users will be relatively familiar with. > - ability to be leverage by Marvin tests to perform smoke and integration > tests > > You know - the usual stuff... > > So that we know that the template should 'always work', I don't think that we > should point to an upstream repo, but take an OS version, add/configure > whatever is strictly required to meet our requirements, and keep in the > CloudStack downloads. > > Ok, so more like $10 .. > > Kind regards > > Paul Angus > > > paul.an...@shapeblue.com > www.shapeblue.com > 3 London Bridge Street, 3rd floor, News Building, London SE1 9SGUK > @shapeblue > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Andrija Panic > Sent: 03 June 2020 13:03 > To: users > Cc: dev ; Abhishek Kumar > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] New default template > > Whatever is a choosen as the new one, needs to be compatible with ALL the > current hypervisor we support (i. e. VMware 6.0 and up, XenServer 7.0 and up > and KVM of various flavours). > So that needs to be taken into consideration when speaking about exotic OS-es > or even the newest ones (Ubuntu 20/CentOS 8) to find a proper OS mappings on > hypervisor side that will allow it to run normally. > > > > On Wed, 3 Jun 2020, 12:21 , wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'd like to restate my previous stance on this which is - if not to >> have a proper "market place" of trusted and tested templates - at >> least to cover the popular ones. >> The basics imho would be CentOS and Ubuntu, with this we cover 99% of >> the user requirements. >> I'd propose to go with the latest and greatest of both, Ubuntu 20.04 >> and >> CentOS8 respectively (supported 2029). >> I can repurpose the current build machine for openvm.eu and "donate" >> it to the project so it's not a "third party" any more. >> >> my 2 pence >> >> On 2020-06-03 08:58, Abhishek Kumar wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I would like to hear everyone's opinion on a new default template in >>> CloudStack. >>> Currently, we are using CentOS 5.x for different hypervisors but it >>> is quite old(already completed its support life) and either the >>> support for it has been removed >>> (https://github.com/xcp-ng/xcp/wiki/Guest-System-Support) or in >>> legacy ( >> https://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/search.php?deviceCatego >>
Re: [DISCUSS] New default template
I agree with Paul - a single, well-configured one. (Considering the Marvin tests are run using the current default template, I think it might make sense to consider CentOS 7/8, bug again, just my opinion) On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 at 16:22, Paul Angus wrote: > My 2 cents: > > The default template is not there for general or even production use, it’s > there for people to 'kick the tires' and either see if CloudStack is what > they want or check that their installation is generally OK. > > Therefore (IMO) the pre-requisites are: > > - small download size > - compatibility across all of our supported hypervisors > - compatibility with all CloudStack features; i.e. live memory and CPU > addition, hot disk-pluging, live migrations which require hypervisor tools > installed, passing of user-data, meta-data, ssh keys and password resets to > the VM via VR and config-drive. > - OS commands that users will be relatively familiar with. > - ability to be leverage by Marvin tests to perform smoke and integration > tests > > You know - the usual stuff... > > So that we know that the template should 'always work', I don't think that > we should point to an upstream repo, but take an OS version, add/configure > whatever is strictly required to meet our requirements, and keep in the > CloudStack downloads. > > Ok, so more like $10 .. > > Kind regards > > Paul Angus > > > paul.an...@shapeblue.com > www.shapeblue.com > 3 London Bridge Street, 3rd floor, News Building, London SE1 9SGUK > @shapeblue > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Andrija Panic > Sent: 03 June 2020 13:03 > To: users > Cc: dev ; Abhishek Kumar < > abhishek.ku...@shapeblue.com> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] New default template > > Whatever is a choosen as the new one, needs to be compatible with ALL the > current hypervisor we support (i. e. VMware 6.0 and up, XenServer 7.0 and > up and KVM of various flavours). > So that needs to be taken into consideration when speaking about exotic > OS-es or even the newest ones (Ubuntu 20/CentOS 8) to find a proper OS > mappings on hypervisor side that will allow it to run normally. > > > > On Wed, 3 Jun 2020, 12:21 , wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'd like to restate my previous stance on this which is - if not to > > have a proper "market place" of trusted and tested templates - at > > least to cover the popular ones. > > The basics imho would be CentOS and Ubuntu, with this we cover 99% of > > the user requirements. > > I'd propose to go with the latest and greatest of both, Ubuntu 20.04 > > and > > CentOS8 respectively (supported 2029). > > I can repurpose the current build machine for openvm.eu and "donate" > > it to the project so it's not a "third party" any more. > > > > my 2 pence > > > > On 2020-06-03 08:58, Abhishek Kumar wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I would like to hear everyone's opinion on a new default template in > > > CloudStack. > > > Currently, we are using CentOS 5.x for different hypervisors but it > > > is quite old(already completed its support life) and either the > > > support for it has been removed > > > (https://github.com/xcp-ng/xcp/wiki/Guest-System-Support) or in > > > legacy ( > > https://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/search.php?deviceCatego > > ry=software=1=272=448=1_interval > > =10=Partner=Asc=16 > > ) > > > in different hypervisors. > > > Therefore, I think it is time now to move to a newer OS template. In > > > my understanding CentOS7 is the minimum viable choice if we are > > > continuing with CentOS. This can be the preferred choice as we > > > already have tested templates for it on different hypervisors and it > > > has 4 years left in its cycle. > > > > > > We can also explore Ubuntu’s cloud-images of 20.04. And if we want > > > to go with something very light-weight we can think about something > > > like Alpine Linux. > > > > > > Please have your say. Also, do you think this can be included in > > > 4.15 itself so we can have a proper default template for something > > > like XCP-ng 8.x which doesn't support CentOS 5 (and PV VMs)? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Abhishek > > > > > > > > > abhishek.ku...@shapeblue.com > > > www.shapeblue.com > > > 3 London Bridge Street, 3rd floor, News Building, London SE1 9SGUK > > > @shapeblue > > > -- Andrija Panić
RE: [DISCUSS] New default template
My 2 cents: The default template is not there for general or even production use, it’s there for people to 'kick the tires' and either see if CloudStack is what they want or check that their installation is generally OK. Therefore (IMO) the pre-requisites are: - small download size - compatibility across all of our supported hypervisors - compatibility with all CloudStack features; i.e. live memory and CPU addition, hot disk-pluging, live migrations which require hypervisor tools installed, passing of user-data, meta-data, ssh keys and password resets to the VM via VR and config-drive. - OS commands that users will be relatively familiar with. - ability to be leverage by Marvin tests to perform smoke and integration tests You know - the usual stuff... So that we know that the template should 'always work', I don't think that we should point to an upstream repo, but take an OS version, add/configure whatever is strictly required to meet our requirements, and keep in the CloudStack downloads. Ok, so more like $10 .. Kind regards Paul Angus paul.an...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com 3 London Bridge Street, 3rd floor, News Building, London SE1 9SGUK @shapeblue -Original Message- From: Andrija Panic Sent: 03 June 2020 13:03 To: users Cc: dev ; Abhishek Kumar Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] New default template Whatever is a choosen as the new one, needs to be compatible with ALL the current hypervisor we support (i. e. VMware 6.0 and up, XenServer 7.0 and up and KVM of various flavours). So that needs to be taken into consideration when speaking about exotic OS-es or even the newest ones (Ubuntu 20/CentOS 8) to find a proper OS mappings on hypervisor side that will allow it to run normally. On Wed, 3 Jun 2020, 12:21 , wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to restate my previous stance on this which is - if not to > have a proper "market place" of trusted and tested templates - at > least to cover the popular ones. > The basics imho would be CentOS and Ubuntu, with this we cover 99% of > the user requirements. > I'd propose to go with the latest and greatest of both, Ubuntu 20.04 > and > CentOS8 respectively (supported 2029). > I can repurpose the current build machine for openvm.eu and "donate" > it to the project so it's not a "third party" any more. > > my 2 pence > > On 2020-06-03 08:58, Abhishek Kumar wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I would like to hear everyone's opinion on a new default template in > > CloudStack. > > Currently, we are using CentOS 5.x for different hypervisors but it > > is quite old(already completed its support life) and either the > > support for it has been removed > > (https://github.com/xcp-ng/xcp/wiki/Guest-System-Support) or in > > legacy ( > https://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/search.php?deviceCatego > ry=software=1=272=448=1_interval > =10=Partner=Asc=16 > ) > > in different hypervisors. > > Therefore, I think it is time now to move to a newer OS template. In > > my understanding CentOS7 is the minimum viable choice if we are > > continuing with CentOS. This can be the preferred choice as we > > already have tested templates for it on different hypervisors and it > > has 4 years left in its cycle. > > > > We can also explore Ubuntu’s cloud-images of 20.04. And if we want > > to go with something very light-weight we can think about something > > like Alpine Linux. > > > > Please have your say. Also, do you think this can be included in > > 4.15 itself so we can have a proper default template for something > > like XCP-ng 8.x which doesn't support CentOS 5 (and PV VMs)? > > > > Regards, > > Abhishek > > > > > > abhishek.ku...@shapeblue.com > > www.shapeblue.com > > 3 London Bridge Street, 3rd floor, News Building, London SE1 9SGUK > > @shapeblue >
[DISCUSS] Dev and Users participation for Primate GA
All, Primate Tech Preview is out [1] with the 4.14.0.0 release, and following our agreement and vote [2][3] we need to work towards GA with 4.15 (next major release). With this thread, I want to kick start a discussion and welcome your feedback on how our community can work towards the GA. On a high level, here is my proposal on how we can participate: * For users: * Test Primate Tech Preview in your environments, report bugs and missing features: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack-primate/issues/new/choose * Check and report translation issues, even submit translations. Similar to legacy UI, the translations are key:values, the source of which is here: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack-primate/tree/master/src/locales Any translation contributions are welcome - https://github.com/apache/cloudstack-primate/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md * For developers: * Work on 1.0-GA milestone issues, review/test/merge pull requests: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack-primate/milestone/2 * Project board to track high-level tasks/participation: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack-primate/projects/2 * Should we organise a weekly/bi-weekly SIG call until GA? Can you advise if you're interested in participating? Devs - over the last few months, I've been a major bottleneck mostly with testing and merging pull requests. For a healthy community, I want to fix that we want more devs to join the effort both as a contributor and a reviewer. Please advise what I can do to support and enable us? Originally I had chosen VueJS so anybody can go out (and learn from much better resources, for example https://vuejs.org/v2/guide/) themselves. Near future, I can try to write a small guide or some developer docs on writing a feature in Primate - could that help? Thoughts, feedback? Thanks. [1] https://markmail.org/message/xftj2uyev4vjb536 [2] https://markmail.org/message/tblrbrtew6cvrusr [3] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Proposal%3A+CloudStack+Primate+UI Regards, Rohit Yadav Software Architect, ShapeBlue https://www.shapeblue.com rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com 3 London Bridge Street, 3rd floor, News Building, London SE1 9SGUK @shapeblue
VPC CIDR range change
Hi, We have deployed a VPC with CIDR 172.16.1.0/24 and now we got a request to change the VPC CIDR from 172.16.1.0/24 to new CIDR 192.168.1.0/24. Inside the VPC we have already created three tiers and 5 VMs are running in the tier. Is this possible to change VPC CIDR? -- Regards, Rahul Regards, Rahul Yadav Consultant - Cloud *IndiQus Technologies* *O* +91 11 4055 1411 | *M* +91 8826699409 www.indiqus.com
Re: Downloading template
In 4.14 the icon has changed to "Copy Template" which opens a window with empty selection area. It looks like it is intended to copy the template to another zone. Regards On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 9:18 AM David Jumani wrote: > Hi Fariborz, > > You can find the download button under the details tab > > Thanks, > David > > david.jum...@shapeblue.com > www.shapeblue.com > @shapeblue > > > > -- > *From:* Fariborz Navidan > *Sent:* Sunday, June 7, 2020 4:57 PM > *To:* users@cloudstack.apache.org > *Subject:* Downloading template > > Hello, > > Where download template button in 4.14? It was previously possible to get > download link under "zones" tab of a template in 4.13 >
Re: CS 4.14 does not have template download function
Hi Fariborz, The button is hidden if the template is not extractable. Please edit the template and enable the extractable property. Regards, Nicolas Vazquez From: Fariborz Navidan Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 2:39 PM To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: CS 4.14 does not have template download function Hello, I'm wondering why CS 4.14 does not have template downloading function. How can we download an existing template? It was helpful to copy templates to new CS installations. Thanks nicolas.vazq...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com 3 London Bridge Street, 3rd floor, News Building, London SE1 9SGUK @shapeblue
