AW: system VMs on local storage

2015-05-28 Thread S . Brüseke - proIO GmbH
Hi Glenn,

will CS create the SystemVMs after a XenServer failure automatically?
We do not want to use shared storage at all.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With kind regards,

Swen Brüseke


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Glenn Wagner [mailto:glenn.wag...@shapeblue.com] 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Mai 2015 11:13
An: users@cloudstack.apache.org; S. Brüseke - proIO GmbH
Betreff: RE: system VMs on local storage

Hi,

I honestly would not put the System VM's on local Storage on a Production 
environment, if you have a Xenserver failure the System VM's will go down, You 
will need to recreate them causing downtime.


Glenn Wagner
Senior Consultant, South Africa



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7130

-Original Message-
From: S. Brüseke - proIO GmbH [mailto:s.brues...@proio.com]
Sent: 28 May 2015 10:58 AM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: system VMs on local storage

Hi,

we are thinking about to use only local storage in our CS installation. We are 
using XenServer 6.2 SP1 as hypervisor.
What about System VMs? Is it okay to change system.vm.use.local.storage to 
true and then migrate all System VMs and Router VMs to local storage?
Is it wise to put System VMs on local storage?

Thank for sharing your experience!


Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With kind regards,

Swen Brüseke



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AW: AW: system VMs on local storage

2015-05-28 Thread S . Brüseke - proIO GmbH
thank you! So it would make sense to keep a nfs shared storage only for 
SystemVMs? Can we use our secondary storage for this?

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With kind regards,

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-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Prashant Kumar Mishra [mailto:prashantkumar.mis...@citrix.com] 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Mai 2015 14:59
An: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Betreff: Re: AW: system VMs on local storage

1-To recreate router vm you need to stop-start any existing vm  or deploy a new 
vm .
2-In case if you are changing storage(shared to local or local to share) you 
need to destroy existing router vm and follow step 1.


On 5/28/15, 6:12 PM, S. Brüseke - proIO GmbH s.brues...@proio.com
wrote:

How do you recreate VRs?

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With kind regards,

Swen Brüseke

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Koushik Das [mailto:koushik@citrix.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Mai 2015 14:30
An: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Betreff: Re: system VMs on local storage

SSVM and CPVM will be started simultaneously.
But virtual routers won't get created automatically.


On 28-May-2015, at 5:51 PM, S. Brüseke - proIO GmbH 
s.brues...@proio.com
 wrote:

 Hi Prashant,
 
 so the only downside is that it will take some time until CS 
created all SystemVMs after a host crash? Will CS create SystemVMs one by one?
 
 Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With kind regards,
 
 Swen Brüseke
 
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Prashant Kumar Mishra [mailto:prashantkumar.mis...@citrix.com]
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Mai 2015 14:12
 An: users@cloudstack.apache.org
 Betreff: Re: AW: system VMs on local storage
 
 Yes , if your zone is in enabled state and system vm went down , CS 
will try to bring them up on shared/local storage depend on current 
system.vm.use.local.storage settings .
 
 On 5/28/15, 5:19 PM, S. Brüseke - proIO GmbH s.brues...@proio.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi Glenn,
 
 will CS create the SystemVMs after a XenServer failure automatically?
 We do not want to use shared storage at all.
 
 Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With kind regards,
 
 Swen Brüseke
 
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Glenn Wagner [mailto:glenn.wag...@shapeblue.com]
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Mai 2015 11:13
 An: users@cloudstack.apache.org; S. Brüseke - proIO GmbH
 Betreff: RE: system VMs on local storage
 
 Hi,
 
 I honestly would not put the System VM's on local Storage on a 
 Production environment, if you have a Xenserver failure the System 
 VM's will go down, You will need to recreate them causing downtime.
 
 
 Glenn Wagner
 Senior Consultant, South Africa
 
 
 
 Phone: +27 21 527 0091 | Mobile: +27 73 917 4111
 
 glenn.wag...@shapeblue.com | www.shapeblue.com | Twitter:@shapeBlue 
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 Somerset West, Cape Town 7130
 
 -Original Message-
 From: S. Brüseke - proIO GmbH [mailto:s.brues...@proio.com]
 Sent: 28 May 2015 10:58 AM
 To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
 Subject: system VMs on local storage
 
 Hi,
 
 we are thinking about to use only local storage in our CS installation.
 We are using XenServer 6.2 SP1 as hypervisor.
 What about System VMs? Is it okay to change 
system.vm.use.local.storage
 to true and then migrate all System VMs and Router VMs to local 
storage?
 Is it wise to put System VMs on local storage?
 
 Thank for sharing your experience!
 
 
 Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With kind regards,
 
 Swen Brüseke
 
 
 
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Re: AW: system VMs on local storage

2015-05-28 Thread Prashant Kumar Mishra
Yes , if your zone is in enabled state and system vm went down , CS will
try to bring them up on shared/local storage depend on current
system.vm.use.local.storage settings .

On 5/28/15, 5:19 PM, S. Brüseke - proIO GmbH s.brues...@proio.com
wrote:

Hi Glenn,

will CS create the SystemVMs after a XenServer failure automatically?
We do not want to use shared storage at all.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With kind regards,

Swen Brüseke


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Glenn Wagner [mailto:glenn.wag...@shapeblue.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Mai 2015 11:13
An: users@cloudstack.apache.org; S. Brüseke - proIO GmbH
Betreff: RE: system VMs on local storage

Hi,

I honestly would not put the System VM's on local Storage on a Production
environment, if you have a Xenserver failure the System VM's will go
down, You will need to recreate them causing downtime.


Glenn Wagner
Senior Consultant, South Africa



Phone: +27 21 527 0091 | Mobile: +27 73 917 4111

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-Original Message-
From: S. Brüseke - proIO GmbH [mailto:s.brues...@proio.com]
Sent: 28 May 2015 10:58 AM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: system VMs on local storage

Hi,

we are thinking about to use only local storage in our CS installation.
We are using XenServer 6.2 SP1 as hypervisor.
What about System VMs? Is it okay to change system.vm.use.local.storage
to true and then migrate all System VMs and Router VMs to local storage?
Is it wise to put System VMs on local storage?

Thank for sharing your experience!


Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With kind regards,

Swen Brüseke



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Re: AW: system VMs on local storage

2015-05-28 Thread Prashant Kumar Mishra
1-To recreate router vm you need to stop-start any existing vm  or deploy
a new vm .
2-In case if you are changing storage(shared to local or local to share)
you need to destroy existing router vm and follow step 1.


On 5/28/15, 6:12 PM, S. Brüseke - proIO GmbH s.brues...@proio.com
wrote:

How do you recreate VRs?

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With kind regards,

Swen Brüseke

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Koushik Das [mailto:koushik@citrix.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Mai 2015 14:30
An: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Betreff: Re: system VMs on local storage

SSVM and CPVM will be started simultaneously.
But virtual routers won't get created automatically.


On 28-May-2015, at 5:51 PM, S. Brüseke - proIO GmbH s.brues...@proio.com
 wrote:

 Hi Prashant,
 
 so the only downside is that it will take some time until CS created
all SystemVMs after a host crash? Will CS create SystemVMs one by one?
 
 Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With kind regards,
 
 Swen Brüseke
 
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Prashant Kumar Mishra [mailto:prashantkumar.mis...@citrix.com]
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Mai 2015 14:12
 An: users@cloudstack.apache.org
 Betreff: Re: AW: system VMs on local storage
 
 Yes , if your zone is in enabled state and system vm went down , CS
will try to bring them up on shared/local storage depend on current
system.vm.use.local.storage settings .
 
 On 5/28/15, 5:19 PM, S. Brüseke - proIO GmbH s.brues...@proio.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi Glenn,
 
 will CS create the SystemVMs after a XenServer failure automatically?
 We do not want to use shared storage at all.
 
 Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With kind regards,
 
 Swen Brüseke
 
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Glenn Wagner [mailto:glenn.wag...@shapeblue.com]
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Mai 2015 11:13
 An: users@cloudstack.apache.org; S. Brüseke - proIO GmbH
 Betreff: RE: system VMs on local storage
 
 Hi,
 
 I honestly would not put the System VM's on local Storage on a
 Production environment, if you have a Xenserver failure the System
 VM's will go down, You will need to recreate them causing downtime.
 
 
 Glenn Wagner
 Senior Consultant, South Africa
 
 
 
 Phone: +27 21 527 0091 | Mobile: +27 73 917 4111
 
 glenn.wag...@shapeblue.com | www.shapeblue.com | Twitter:@shapeBlue
 ShapeBlue SA (Pty) Ltd, 2nd Floor, Oudehuis Centre, 122 Main Rd,
 Somerset West, Cape Town 7130
 
 -Original Message-
 From: S. Brüseke - proIO GmbH [mailto:s.brues...@proio.com]
 Sent: 28 May 2015 10:58 AM
 To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
 Subject: system VMs on local storage
 
 Hi,
 
 we are thinking about to use only local storage in our CS installation.
 We are using XenServer 6.2 SP1 as hypervisor.
 What about System VMs? Is it okay to change
system.vm.use.local.storage
 to true and then migrate all System VMs and Router VMs to local
storage?
 Is it wise to put System VMs on local storage?
 
 Thank for sharing your experience!
 
 
 Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With kind regards,
 
 Swen Brüseke
 
 
 
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Re: AW: system VMs on local storage

2015-05-28 Thread Andrija Panic
Why not :) just dont modify global variable to create system VMs on local,
and create appropraite compute offerings with Local storage type (and disk
offerings Local storage type)
SSVM/CPVM afaik, dont do any heavy writing.

Export another NFS path for shared Primary Storage...

On 28 May 2015 at 15:05, S. Brüseke - proIO GmbH s.brues...@proio.com
wrote:

 thank you! So it would make sense to keep a nfs shared storage only for
 SystemVMs? Can we use our secondary storage for this?

 Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With kind regards,

 Swen Brüseke


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 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Prashant Kumar Mishra [mailto:prashantkumar.mis...@citrix.com]
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Mai 2015 14:59
 An: users@cloudstack.apache.org
 Betreff: Re: AW: system VMs on local storage

 1-To recreate router vm you need to stop-start any existing vm  or deploy
 a new vm .
 2-In case if you are changing storage(shared to local or local to share)
 you need to destroy existing router vm and follow step 1.


 On 5/28/15, 6:12 PM, S. Brüseke - proIO GmbH s.brues...@proio.com
 wrote:

 How do you recreate VRs?
 
 Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With kind regards,
 
 Swen Brüseke
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Koushik Das [mailto:koushik@citrix.com]
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Mai 2015 14:30
 An: users@cloudstack.apache.org
 Betreff: Re: system VMs on local storage
 
 SSVM and CPVM will be started simultaneously.
 But virtual routers won't get created automatically.
 
 
 On 28-May-2015, at 5:51 PM, S. Brüseke - proIO GmbH
 s.brues...@proio.com
  wrote:
 
  Hi Prashant,
 
  so the only downside is that it will take some time until CS
 created all SystemVMs after a host crash? Will CS create SystemVMs one
 by one?
 
  Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With kind regards,
 
  Swen Brüseke
 
 
  -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
  Von: Prashant Kumar Mishra [mailto:prashantkumar.mis...@citrix.com]
  Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Mai 2015 14:12
  An: users@cloudstack.apache.org
  Betreff: Re: AW: system VMs on local storage
 
  Yes , if your zone is in enabled state and system vm went down , CS
 will try to bring them up on shared/local storage depend on current
 system.vm.use.local.storage settings .
 
  On 5/28/15, 5:19 PM, S. Brüseke - proIO GmbH s.brues...@proio.com
  wrote:
 
  Hi Glenn,
 
  will CS create the SystemVMs after a XenServer failure automatically?
  We do not want to use shared storage at all.
 
  Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With kind regards,
 
  Swen Brüseke
 
 
  -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
  Von: Glenn Wagner [mailto:glenn.wag...@shapeblue.com]
  Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Mai 2015 11:13
  An: users@cloudstack.apache.org; S. Brüseke - proIO GmbH
  Betreff: RE: system VMs on local storage
 
  Hi,
 
  I honestly would not put the System VM's on local Storage on a
  Production environment, if you have a Xenserver failure the System
  VM's will go down, You will need to recreate them causing downtime.
 
 
  Glenn Wagner
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  -Original Message-
  From: S. Brüseke - proIO GmbH [mailto:s.brues...@proio.com]
  Sent: 28 May 2015 10:58 AM
  To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
  Subject: system VMs on local storage
 
  Hi,
 
  we are thinking about to use only local storage in our CS installation.
  We are using XenServer 6.2 SP1 as hypervisor.
  What about System VMs? Is it okay to change
 system.vm.use.local.storage
  to true and then migrate all System VMs and Router VMs to local
 storage?
  Is it wise to put System VMs on local storage?
 
  Thank for sharing your experience!
 
 
  Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With kind regards,
 
  Swen Brüseke
 
 
 
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