Re: Difference in functionality of Advanced Networking With and Without Security Groups

2023-06-06 Thread Will Conrad
Thank you for your quick response, Wei. It was helpful.

Regards,

Willard

On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 7:36 AM Wei ZHOU  wrote:

> Hi Will,
>
> In the advanced zone with security groups, you can only create Shared
> networks. L2 and isolated/VPC are not supported. (In my opinion, we could
> support L2 as well).
> In the advanced zones, you can create Shared/L2/Isolated/VPC, but vms do
> not have security groups.
>
> Advanced zone with SG is suitable for public cloud providers, and advanced
> zone without SG is suitable for private clouds.
> There is an idea from some years ago, to combine these two types into one,
> but not implemented yet. It is very complicated.
>
> -Wei
>
>
> On Tue, 6 Jun 2023 at 12:45, Will Conrad 
> wrote:
>
> > HI Community!
> >
> > My company is building a cloudstack implementation and have discovered
> > that security-group enabled advanced zones seem to function unexpectedly
> > differently than non-security-group enabled advanced zones. After
> creating
> > a security-group enabled advanced zone, when adding new networks to this
> > zone, we seem to have lost the choices of "L2" and "isolated". Is this
> > normal? Is this the way security groups were designed to function? I did
> > read through the documentation for security groups, and noticed the
> > "limitations" expressed as well as saw the documentation that VPC are not
> > supported in security-group enabled zones. I'm looking for further
> > clarification.
> >
> > As depicted in the below screenshot, "shared" is now the only option
> where
> > before "L2" and "isolated" were also options.
> >
> > Have I missed something? Have I misinterpreted something? Is there
> further
> > documentation that might describe the nuances of using security groups in
> > advanced zones?
> >
> > Any assistance is appreciated. Thank you!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Willard Conrad
> > DevOps Engineer
> > Hivelocity, LLC
> >
> > [image: image_720.png]
> >
>


Re: Difference in functionality of Advanced Networking With and Without Security Groups

2023-06-06 Thread Wei ZHOU
Hi Will,

In the advanced zone with security groups, you can only create Shared
networks. L2 and isolated/VPC are not supported. (In my opinion, we could
support L2 as well).
In the advanced zones, you can create Shared/L2/Isolated/VPC, but vms do
not have security groups.

Advanced zone with SG is suitable for public cloud providers, and advanced
zone without SG is suitable for private clouds.
There is an idea from some years ago, to combine these two types into one,
but not implemented yet. It is very complicated.

-Wei


On Tue, 6 Jun 2023 at 12:45, Will Conrad 
wrote:

> HI Community!
>
> My company is building a cloudstack implementation and have discovered
> that security-group enabled advanced zones seem to function unexpectedly
> differently than non-security-group enabled advanced zones. After creating
> a security-group enabled advanced zone, when adding new networks to this
> zone, we seem to have lost the choices of "L2" and "isolated". Is this
> normal? Is this the way security groups were designed to function? I did
> read through the documentation for security groups, and noticed the
> "limitations" expressed as well as saw the documentation that VPC are not
> supported in security-group enabled zones. I'm looking for further
> clarification.
>
> As depicted in the below screenshot, "shared" is now the only option where
> before "L2" and "isolated" were also options.
>
> Have I missed something? Have I misinterpreted something? Is there further
> documentation that might describe the nuances of using security groups in
> advanced zones?
>
> Any assistance is appreciated. Thank you!
>
> Regards,
>
> Willard Conrad
> DevOps Engineer
> Hivelocity, LLC
>
> [image: image_720.png]
>


Difference in functionality of Advanced Networking With and Without Security Groups

2023-06-06 Thread Will Conrad
HI Community!

My company is building a cloudstack implementation and have discovered that
security-group enabled advanced zones seem to function unexpectedly
differently than non-security-group enabled advanced zones. After creating
a security-group enabled advanced zone, when adding new networks to this
zone, we seem to have lost the choices of "L2" and "isolated". Is this
normal? Is this the way security groups were designed to function? I did
read through the documentation for security groups, and noticed the
"limitations" expressed as well as saw the documentation that VPC are not
supported in security-group enabled zones. I'm looking for further
clarification.

As depicted in the below screenshot, "shared" is now the only option where
before "L2" and "isolated" were also options.

Have I missed something? Have I misinterpreted something? Is there further
documentation that might describe the nuances of using security groups in
advanced zones?

Any assistance is appreciated. Thank you!

Regards,

Willard Conrad
DevOps Engineer
Hivelocity, LLC

[image: image_720.png]