Re: [ClusterLabs] Pacemaker 1.1.12 does not compile with CMAN Stack.

2019-09-16 Thread Jan Pokorný
On 16/09/19 12:01 +, Somanath Jeeva wrote:
> Thanks for your extended support and advise. I would like to give
> some background information about my exercise, which will give some
> fair idea to you folks. 
> 
> We are planning to use pacemaker + Corosync + CMAN stack in RHEL 6.5
> OS. For the same, we are trying to collect the source from
> Clusterlab.

If my memory serves me correctly and if the actual hard limitation
is usage of RHEL 6.5, pacemaker option would still be available for
you to consier...

> Initially we got the Pacemaker and Corosync Source successfully from
> Clusterlab and we were unable to fetch the source for CMAN from
> Cluster lab.

ClusterLabs is currently a loose "makers association".

I am not even sure what you call "getting corosync source from
ClusterLabs", since corosync project is even more independent,
see for instance a separate top-level GitHub associating naame
(https://github.com/corosync/corosync).

> As you suggested, We already tried to use the latest set of
> Pacemaker with its prerequisites (Corosync) on top of RHEL 6.5, but
> it fails due to dependencies of RHEL 7.x Components (Systemd).

This may be a matter of poor understanding of how to pre-arrange
the actual compilation of the components.  It might deserve more
room in README/INSTALL kind of top-level documents, but the
habitual approach working across any SW with build system backed
with autotools (autoconf, automake, ...) is to run these exploratory
steps:

   1. ./autogen.sh (sometimes also ./bootstrap.sh, etc., sometimes,
  for instance, mere "autoreconf -if" is suggested instead)
   
   2. ./configure --help

The latter will overwhelm you on the first contact, but then, when
you don't give up and try to understand your options with the project
at hand, you'll realize that you can change quite a lot about the
final products of the compilation, and indirectly about the
prerequisites needed to get there.

In case of pacemaker, you can, for instance, spot:

> --enable-systemd  Enable support for managing resources via systemd [try]

It follows then to disble this support + dependencies by force, you'll
just need to invoke the configure script as:

   ./configure --disable-systemd

> So we are requesting you to provide the below information.
> 
> Is it possible for me to get the source code for CMAN from Cluster
> lab ??? (since we are planning to use it for our production purpose,
> that's why we don't want to go with Red hat sites (even for Publicly
> available)).
> 
Somanath, it's basic to understand some facts first, since blind
fixation on ClusterLabs group and, conversely, blank refusal of
Red Hat as a vendor (sigh) won't lead anyway, I am afraid:

   1. CMAN pre-exists ClusterLabs establishment by multiple years

   2. CMAN used to be, more or less, single vendor show, and this
  vendor was, surprise surprise, Red Hat

   3. from 2., it follows that the only authoritative sources of CMAN
  ever were associated with this vendor -- you want it? better
  to grab it from there ... or from trustable enough and
  associated still mirror (currently hosted at pagure.io,
  see below)

So, take it or leave it, the links I provided for you (below) still
stand, don't expect any ClusterLabs rembranding-by-force of what
practically amounts to a dead project now.

Thanks for understanding.

And keep in mind, if I were you, I'd skip CMAN and RHEL 6 today.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jan Pokorný  
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 20:15
> To: users@clusterlabs.org
> Subject: Re: [ClusterLabs] Pacemaker 1.1.12 does not compile with CMAN Stack.
> 
> [...]
> 
> For CMAN in particular, look here:
> 
> https://pagure.io/linux-cluster/cluster/blob/STABLE32/f/cman
> https://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/6Server/en/RHS/SRPMS/cluster-3.0.12.1-73.el6.src.rpm
> 
> 
> [...]
> 

-- 
Jan (Poki)


pgpjkHb093_qS.pgp
Description: PGP signature
___
Manage your subscription:
https://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/users

ClusterLabs home: https://www.clusterlabs.org/

Re: [ClusterLabs] Pacemaker 1.1.12 does not compile with CMAN Stack.

2019-09-16 Thread Jan Friesse

Somanath,


Hi ,

Thanks for your extended support and advise. I would like to give some 
background information about my exercise, which will give some fair idea to you 
folks.

We are planning to use pacemaker + Corosync + CMAN stack in RHEL 6.5 OS. For 
the same, we are trying to collect the source from Clusterlab.


Are you really sure 6.5? AFAIK 6.5 is no longer supported.



Initially we got the Pacemaker and Corosync Source successfully from Clusterlab 
and we were unable to fetch the source for CMAN from Cluster lab.

As you suggested, We already tried to use the latest set of Pacemaker with its 
prerequisites (Corosync) on top of RHEL 6.5, but it fails due to dependencies 
of RHEL 7.x Components (Systemd).


At least corosync 2.x should work just fine on RHEL 6 and there is no 
hard dependency on systemd.




So we are requesting you to provide the below information.

Is it possible for me to get the source code for CMAN from Cluster lab ??? 
(since we are planning to use it for our production purpose, that's why we 
don't want to go with Red hat sites (even for Publicly available)).


Take following comment as just my 0.02$. Honestly I would go with what 
distribution provides. RHEL 6 is still supported and what is there is 
tested by QE/other customers in production. If you decide to go with 
newer versions on top of old distro you are on your own and you may face 
weird bugs which nobody will really care about much.


Regards,
  Honza




With Regards
Somanath Thilak J

-Original Message-
From: Jan Pokorný 
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 20:15
To: users@clusterlabs.org
Subject: Re: [ClusterLabs] Pacemaker 1.1.12 does not compile with CMAN Stack.

On 30/08/19 13:03 +, Somanath Jeeva wrote:

In Pacemaker 1.1.12 version try to compile with CMAN Stack,


midly put, it's like trying to run with dinosaurs; that version of pacemaker 
together with that effectively superseded bundle of other components will 
hardly receive any attention in 2019.

But let's assume there's a reason.


but we are unable to achieve that .

Source taken path :
https://github.com/ClusterLabs/pacemaker/tree/Pacemaker-1.1.12

After Extracting, we installed required dependencies as per
README.markdown,

## Installing from source

 $ ./autogen.sh
 $ ./configure
 $ make
 $ sudo make install

After performing above task, we are unable to start pacemaker due to
cman stack is unrecognized service.


Well, pacemaker alone won't magically bootstrap these other prerequisites, you 
need to take an effort of grabbing them as well.

For CMAN in particular, look here:

https://pagure.io/linux-cluster/cluster/blob/STABLE32/f/cman
https://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/6Server/en/RHS/SRPMS/cluster-3.0.12.1-73.el6.src.rpm


# service pacemaker status
pacemakerd dead but pid file exists
#service cman status
cman: unrecognized service


Easy, no /etc/init.d/cman around, for the mentioned reason.

Still, I am not sure how far you'll get, sounds like an uphill battle.
Settling with the rather recent state of development may avoid significant 
chunks of troubles, incl. those that were only fixed in later versions of 
pacemaker.


Please find the ./configure screenshot of the system:

pacemaker configuration:
   Version  = 1.1.12 (Build: 561c4cfda1)
   Features = libqb-logging libqb-ipc lha-fencing nagios  
corosync-plugin cman acls

   Prefix   = /usr
   Executables  = /usr/sbin
   Man pages= /usr/share/man
   Libraries= /usr/lib64
   Header files = /usr/include
   Arch-independent files   = /usr/share
   State information= /var
   System configuration = /etc
   Corosync Plugins = /usr/libexec/lcrso

   Use system LTDL  = yes

   HA group name= haclient
   HA user name = hacluster

   CFLAGS   = -g -O2 -I/usr/include -I/usr/include/heartbeat
  -ggdb  -fgnu89-inline -fstack-protector-all -Wall -Waggregate-return 
-Wbad-function-cast -Wcast-align -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wendif-labels 
-Wfloat-equal -Wformat=2 -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations 
-Wnested-externs -Wno-long-long -Wno-strict-aliasing -Wunused-but-set-variable 
-Wpointer-arith -Wwrite-strings -Werror
   Libraries= -lgnutls -lqb -lplumb -lpils -lqb -lbz2 -lxslt 
-lxml2 -lc -luuid -lpam -lrt -ldl  -lglib-2.0   -lltdl -lqb -ldl -lrt -lpthread
   Stack Libraries  =   -lcoroipcc   -lcpg   -lcfg   -lconfdb   -lcman  
 -lfenced


Is there anything I am missing in the configure, to get the cman
stack.


I think having "cman" enumerated amongst features might be enough, but once you'll get 
past the "cman: unrecognized service" phase, you shall see.

Hope this helps.

--
Jan (Poki)
___
Manage your subscription:
https://lists.clu

Re: [ClusterLabs] Pacemaker 1.1.12 does not compile with CMAN Stack.

2019-09-16 Thread Somanath Jeeva
Hi ,

Thanks for your extended support and advise. I would like to give some 
background information about my exercise, which will give some fair idea to you 
folks. 

We are planning to use pacemaker + Corosync + CMAN stack in RHEL 6.5 OS. For 
the same, we are trying to collect the source from Clusterlab.

Initially we got the Pacemaker and Corosync Source successfully from Clusterlab 
and we were unable to fetch the source for CMAN from Cluster lab.

As you suggested, We already tried to use the latest set of Pacemaker with its 
prerequisites (Corosync) on top of RHEL 6.5, but it fails due to dependencies 
of RHEL 7.x Components (Systemd).

So we are requesting you to provide the below information.

Is it possible for me to get the source code for CMAN from Cluster lab ??? 
(since we are planning to use it for our production purpose, that's why we 
don't want to go with Red hat sites (even for Publicly available)).


With Regards
Somanath Thilak J

-Original Message-
From: Jan Pokorný  
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 20:15
To: users@clusterlabs.org
Subject: Re: [ClusterLabs] Pacemaker 1.1.12 does not compile with CMAN Stack.

On 30/08/19 13:03 +, Somanath Jeeva wrote:
> In Pacemaker 1.1.12 version try to compile with CMAN Stack,

midly put, it's like trying to run with dinosaurs; that version of pacemaker 
together with that effectively superseded bundle of other components will 
hardly receive any attention in 2019.

But let's assume there's a reason.

> but we are unable to achieve that .
> 
> Source taken path : 
> https://github.com/ClusterLabs/pacemaker/tree/Pacemaker-1.1.12
> 
> After Extracting, we installed required dependencies as per 
> README.markdown,
> 
> ## Installing from source
> 
> $ ./autogen.sh
> $ ./configure
> $ make
> $ sudo make install
> 
> After performing above task, we are unable to start pacemaker due to 
> cman stack is unrecognized service.

Well, pacemaker alone won't magically bootstrap these other prerequisites, you 
need to take an effort of grabbing them as well.

For CMAN in particular, look here:

https://pagure.io/linux-cluster/cluster/blob/STABLE32/f/cman
https://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/6Server/en/RHS/SRPMS/cluster-3.0.12.1-73.el6.src.rpm

> # service pacemaker status
> pacemakerd dead but pid file exists
> #service cman status
> cman: unrecognized service

Easy, no /etc/init.d/cman around, for the mentioned reason.

Still, I am not sure how far you'll get, sounds like an uphill battle.
Settling with the rather recent state of development may avoid significant 
chunks of troubles, incl. those that were only fixed in later versions of 
pacemaker.

> Please find the ./configure screenshot of the system:
> 
> pacemaker configuration:
>   Version  = 1.1.12 (Build: 561c4cfda1)
>   Features = libqb-logging libqb-ipc lha-fencing nagios  
> corosync-plugin cman acls
> 
>   Prefix   = /usr
>   Executables  = /usr/sbin
>   Man pages= /usr/share/man
>   Libraries= /usr/lib64
>   Header files = /usr/include
>   Arch-independent files   = /usr/share
>   State information= /var
>   System configuration = /etc
>   Corosync Plugins = /usr/libexec/lcrso
> 
>   Use system LTDL  = yes
> 
>   HA group name= haclient
>   HA user name = hacluster
> 
>   CFLAGS   = -g -O2 -I/usr/include -I/usr/include/heartbeat   
>-ggdb  -fgnu89-inline -fstack-protector-all -Wall -Waggregate-return 
> -Wbad-function-cast -Wcast-align -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wendif-labels 
> -Wfloat-equal -Wformat=2 -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations 
> -Wnested-externs -Wno-long-long -Wno-strict-aliasing 
> -Wunused-but-set-variable -Wpointer-arith -Wwrite-strings -Werror
>   Libraries= -lgnutls -lqb -lplumb -lpils -lqb -lbz2 -lxslt 
> -lxml2 -lc -luuid -lpam -lrt -ldl  -lglib-2.0   -lltdl -lqb -ldl -lrt 
> -lpthread
>   Stack Libraries  =   -lcoroipcc   -lcpg   -lcfg   -lconfdb   -lcman 
>   -lfenced
> 
> 
> Is there anything I am missing in the configure, to get the cman 
> stack.

I think having "cman" enumerated amongst features might be enough, but once 
you'll get past the "cman: unrecognized service" phase, you shall see.

Hope this helps.

--
Jan (Poki)
___
Manage your subscription:
https://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/users

ClusterLabs home: https://www.clusterlabs.org/


Re: [ClusterLabs] Pacemaker 1.1.12 does not compile with CMAN Stack.

2019-08-30 Thread Jan Pokorný
On 30/08/19 13:03 +, Somanath Jeeva wrote:
> In Pacemaker 1.1.12 version try to compile with CMAN Stack,

midly put, it's like trying to run with dinosaurs; that version
of pacemaker together with that effectively superseded bundle
of other components will hardly receive any attention in 2019.

But let's assume there's a reason.

> but we are unable to achieve that .
> 
> Source taken path : 
> https://github.com/ClusterLabs/pacemaker/tree/Pacemaker-1.1.12
> 
> After Extracting, we installed required dependencies as per
> README.markdown,
> 
> ## Installing from source
> 
> $ ./autogen.sh
> $ ./configure
> $ make
> $ sudo make install
> 
> After performing above task, we are unable to start pacemaker due
> to cman stack is unrecognized service.

Well, pacemaker alone won't magically bootstrap these other
prerequisites, you need to take an effort of grabbing them
as well.

For CMAN in particular, look here:

https://pagure.io/linux-cluster/cluster/blob/STABLE32/f/cman
https://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/6Server/en/RHS/SRPMS/cluster-3.0.12.1-73.el6.src.rpm

> # service pacemaker status
> pacemakerd dead but pid file exists
> #service cman status
> cman: unrecognized service

Easy, no /etc/init.d/cman around, for the mentioned reason.

Still, I am not sure how far you'll get, sounds like an uphill battle.
Settling with the rather recent state of development may avoid
significant chunks of troubles, incl. those that were only fixed in
later versions of pacemaker.

> Please find the ./configure screenshot of the system:
> 
> pacemaker configuration:
>   Version  = 1.1.12 (Build: 561c4cfda1)
>   Features = libqb-logging libqb-ipc lha-fencing nagios  
> corosync-plugin cman acls
> 
>   Prefix   = /usr
>   Executables  = /usr/sbin
>   Man pages= /usr/share/man
>   Libraries= /usr/lib64
>   Header files = /usr/include
>   Arch-independent files   = /usr/share
>   State information= /var
>   System configuration = /etc
>   Corosync Plugins = /usr/libexec/lcrso
> 
>   Use system LTDL  = yes
> 
>   HA group name= haclient
>   HA user name = hacluster
> 
>   CFLAGS   = -g -O2 -I/usr/include -I/usr/include/heartbeat   
>-ggdb  -fgnu89-inline -fstack-protector-all -Wall -Waggregate-return 
> -Wbad-function-cast -Wcast-align -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wendif-labels 
> -Wfloat-equal -Wformat=2 -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations 
> -Wnested-externs -Wno-long-long -Wno-strict-aliasing 
> -Wunused-but-set-variable -Wpointer-arith -Wwrite-strings -Werror
>   Libraries= -lgnutls -lqb -lplumb -lpils -lqb -lbz2 -lxslt 
> -lxml2 -lc -luuid -lpam -lrt -ldl  -lglib-2.0   -lltdl -lqb -ldl -lrt 
> -lpthread
>   Stack Libraries  =   -lcoroipcc   -lcpg   -lcfg   -lconfdb   -lcman 
>   -lfenced
> 
> 
> Is there anything I am missing in the configure, to get the cman
> stack.

I think having "cman" enumerated amongst features might be enough,
but once you'll get past the "cman: unrecognized service" phase,
you shall see.

Hope this helps.

-- 
Jan (Poki)


pgpk4q77cisT7.pgp
Description: PGP signature
___
Manage your subscription:
https://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/users

ClusterLabs home: https://www.clusterlabs.org/

[ClusterLabs] Pacemaker 1.1.12 does not compile with CMAN Stack.

2019-08-30 Thread Somanath Jeeva
Hi Team ,

In Pacemaker 1.1.12 version try to compile with CMAN Stack , but we are unable 
to achieve that .

Source taken path : 
https://github.com/ClusterLabs/pacemaker/tree/Pacemaker-1.1.12

After Extracting , we installed required dependencies as per README.markdown,

## Installing from source

$ ./autogen.sh
$ ./configure
$ make
$ sudo make install

After performing above task , we are unable to start pacemaker due to cman 
stack is unrecognized service.

# service pacemaker status
pacemakerd dead but pid file exists
#service cman status
cman: unrecognized service

Please find the ./configure screenshot of the system:

pacemaker configuration:
  Version  = 1.1.12 (Build: 561c4cfda1)
  Features = libqb-logging libqb-ipc lha-fencing nagios  
corosync-plugin cman acls

  Prefix   = /usr
  Executables  = /usr/sbin
  Man pages= /usr/share/man
  Libraries= /usr/lib64
  Header files = /usr/include
  Arch-independent files   = /usr/share
  State information= /var
  System configuration = /etc
  Corosync Plugins = /usr/libexec/lcrso

  Use system LTDL  = yes

  HA group name= haclient
  HA user name = hacluster

  CFLAGS   = -g -O2 -I/usr/include -I/usr/include/heartbeat 
 -ggdb  -fgnu89-inline -fstack-protector-all -Wall -Waggregate-return 
-Wbad-function-cast -Wcast-align -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wendif-labels 
-Wfloat-equal -Wformat=2 -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations 
-Wnested-externs -Wno-long-long -Wno-strict-aliasing -Wunused-but-set-variable 
-Wpointer-arith -Wwrite-strings -Werror
  Libraries= -lgnutls -lqb -lplumb -lpils -lqb -lbz2 -lxslt 
-lxml2 -lc -luuid -lpam -lrt -ldl  -lglib-2.0   -lltdl -lqb -ldl -lrt -lpthread
  Stack Libraries  =   -lcoroipcc   -lcpg   -lcfg   -lconfdb   -lcman   
-lfenced


Is there anything I am missing in the configure, to get the cman stack.


With Regards
Somanath Thilak J

___
Manage your subscription:
https://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/users

ClusterLabs home: https://www.clusterlabs.org/