Re: Snapshots ordering on slave and pfs according to freequency for snapshot management

2010-04-26 Thread Siju George
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Matthew Dillon
dil...@apollo.backplane.com wrote:
    So, here's an example.  Lets say you have:

        /samba_export           Your samba export hierarchy
        /hammer                 Your hammer filesystem
        /hammer/pfs/blah        Some PFS in the hammer filesystem

    And now lets asy you want to make snapshots from PFS(s) in the hammer
    filesystem available to the export.  This would work:

        mkdir /samba_export/fubar
        mount_null /hammer/pfs /samba_export/fubar


If I do this then all the pfses under /hammer/pfs will be exported using samba

I guess you meant

mount_null /hammer/pfs/blah /samba_export/fubar

?

That is what I did for the Master pfs

 /Backup1 - Hammer File System

/Backup1/www-5mbak- Samba export Directory

and mount

/Backup1/pfs/www-hot  /Backup1/www-5mbak/www-hotnullrw
 0   0

But the problem is that a slave PFs cannot be mounted. So My problem
is what I do with the slave PFS :-(



    You may have other issues... tracking the snapshots could present
    a problem since hammer cleanup only allows one snapshot directory
    to be specified.  So you might have to come up with a little script
    to maintain a second set of snapsoft softlinks with the proper samba
    path which mirrors the master set which hammer cleanup maintains.
    Otherwise you will wind up with a lot of stale snapshot softlinks.



I Initially planned to take the 5 mins snapshots on the Master
andDaily snapshots on the slave.
So I can export by Samba 2 shares. One having the links to the 5 mins
backup( for 2 days )  and other having the links to the Daily backup (
2000 days or old )

All I need is to figure out how to remove the 5mins snapshots that
gets mirrored on the slave older than two days with out removing the
daily snapshots.

But I am a bit confused now since I dont see snapshots actually
removed after a hammer cleanup.
I will send the details with a new subject

thanks

--Siju



make buildworld error: field 'sysctl_ctx' has incomplete type

2010-04-26 Thread Siju George
Hi,

My Dragonfly system ( 2.7-DEVELOPMENT DragonFly
v2.7.0.54.g0754fe-DEVELOPMENT #18: Wed Apr  7 10:09:21 IST 2010 )
paniced and dropped to ddb prompt with some hammer ioctl error in
the morning. I rebooted it thinking I will get the error in the logs
but it iwas not there in 'messages' or 'dmesg'.

So Thinking there is something wrong with this development version I
tried to upgrade.

dfly-bkpsrv# git describe
v2.7.2-62-g907aee5

but got this error during

#make buildworld


=== usr.bin/kdump
cc  -O -pipe  -I/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../ktrace
-I/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump -I/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../..
-I/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys   -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -W
-Wno-unused-parameter -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes
-Wpointer-arith -Wold-style-definition -Wreturn-type -Wcast-qual
-Wwrite-strings -Wswitch -Wshadow -Wcast-align -Wunused-parameter
-Wchar-subscripts -Winline -Wnested-externs -Wredundant-decls -c
/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/kdump.c
cc  -O -pipe  -I/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../ktrace
-I/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump -I/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../..
-I/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys   -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -W
-Wno-unused-parameter -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes
-Wpointer-arith -Wold-style-definition -Wreturn-type -Wcast-qual
-Wwrite-strings -Wswitch -Wshadow -Wcast-align -Wunused-parameter
-Wchar-subscripts -Winline -Wnested-externs -Wredundant-decls -c
ioctl.c
In file included from ioctl.c:108:
/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys/sys/dsched.h:112: error: field
'sysctl_ctx' has incomplete type
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/usr.bin/kdump.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/usr.bin.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
You have new mail.

Thanks

--Siju


RE: make buildworld error: field 'sysctl_ctx' has incomplete type

2010-04-26 Thread Alex Hornung
I'm aware of this issue and currently trying out a fix.

Cheers,
Alex Hornung

: -Original Message-
: From: users-err...@crater.dragonflybsd.org [mailto:users-
: err...@crater.dragonflybsd.org] On Behalf Of Siju George
: Sent: 26 April 2010 08:54
: To: users@crater.dragonflybsd.org
: Subject: make buildworld error: field 'sysctl_ctx' has incomplete type
: 
: Hi,
: 
: My Dragonfly system ( 2.7-DEVELOPMENT DragonFly
: v2.7.0.54.g0754fe-DEVELOPMENT #18: Wed Apr  7 10:09:21 IST 2010 )
: paniced and dropped to ddb prompt with some hammer ioctl error in
: the morning. I rebooted it thinking I will get the error in the logs
: but it iwas not there in 'messages' or 'dmesg'.
: 
: So Thinking there is something wrong with this development version I
: tried to upgrade.
: 
: dfly-bkpsrv# git describe
: v2.7.2-62-g907aee5
: 
: but got this error during
: 
: #make buildworld
: 
: 
: === usr.bin/kdump
: cc  -O -pipe  -I/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../ktrace
: -I/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump -I/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../..
: -I/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys   -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -W
: -Wno-unused-parameter -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes
: -Wpointer-arith -Wold-style-definition -Wreturn-type -Wcast-qual
: -Wwrite-strings -Wswitch -Wshadow -Wcast-align -Wunused-parameter
: -Wchar-subscripts -Winline -Wnested-externs -Wredundant-decls -c
: /usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/kdump.c
: cc  -O -pipe  -I/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../ktrace
: -I/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump -I/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../..
: -I/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys   -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -W
: -Wno-unused-parameter -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes
: -Wpointer-arith -Wold-style-definition -Wreturn-type -Wcast-qual
: -Wwrite-strings -Wswitch -Wshadow -Wcast-align -Wunused-parameter
: -Wchar-subscripts -Winline -Wnested-externs -Wredundant-decls -c
: ioctl.c
: In file included from ioctl.c:108:
: /usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys/sys/dsched.h:112: error: field
: 'sysctl_ctx' has incomplete type
: *** Error code 1
: 
: Stop in /usr/src/usr.bin/kdump.
: *** Error code 1
: 
: Stop in /usr/src/usr.bin.
: *** Error code 1
: 
: Stop in /usr/src.
: *** Error code 1
: 
: Stop in /usr/src.
: *** Error code 1
: 
: Stop in /usr/src.
: You have new mail.
: 
: Thanks
: 
: --Siju



RE: make buildworld error: field 'sysctl_ctx' has incomplete type

2010-04-26 Thread Alex Hornung
: My Dragonfly system ( 2.7-DEVELOPMENT DragonFly
: v2.7.0.54.g0754fe-DEVELOPMENT #18: Wed Apr  7 10:09:21 IST 2010 )
: paniced and dropped to ddb prompt with some hammer ioctl error in
: the morning. I rebooted it thinking I will get the error in the logs
: but it iwas not there in 'messages' or 'dmesg'.

On another note it would be more useful if you could type 'call dumpsys'
whenever you are dropped to the ddb prompt, so that we can take a look at
the issue.

Cheers,
Alex Hornung



Re: make buildworld error: field 'sysctl_ctx' has incomplete type

2010-04-26 Thread Siju George
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Alex Hornung ahorn...@gmail.com wrote:
 : My Dragonfly system ( 2.7-DEVELOPMENT DragonFly
 : v2.7.0.54.g0754fe-DEVELOPMENT #18: Wed Apr  7 10:09:21 IST 2010 )
 : paniced and dropped to ddb prompt with some hammer ioctl error in
 : the morning. I rebooted it thinking I will get the error in the logs
 : but it iwas not there in 'messages' or 'dmesg'.

 On another note it would be more useful if you could type 'call dumpsys'
 whenever you are dropped to the ddb prompt, so that we can take a look at
 the issue.


Alright thanks :-)

--Siju



Re: make buildworld error: field 'sysctl_ctx' has incomplete type

2010-04-26 Thread Siju George
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Alex Hornung ahorn...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm aware of this issue and currently trying out a fix.


Thanks :-)

Could you also please tell me where to get the messages that were
thrown into the console while the system dropped to ddb?

--Siju


Hammer clean up doesn't actually remove snapshots?

2010-04-26 Thread Siju George
Hi,

I am a bit confused here.

I thought this happened only on my slave pfs.
But I tested it on my Master pfs as well.

I had 3 days worth of 5 mins snapshots on my pfs.
I ran


dfly-bkpsrv# pwd
/Backup1/www-5mbak
dfly-bkpsrv# hammer config /Backup1/www-5mbak/www-hot
snapshots 0d 2d
prune 1d 5m
rebalance 1d 5m
reblock   1d 5m
recopy1d 1h
dfly-bkpsrv# hammer cleanup /Backup1/www-5mbak/www-hot
cleanup /Backup1/www-5mbak/www-hot - handle PFS #5 using
/var/hammer/Backup1/www-5mbak/www-hot
   snapshots - only removing old snapshots
   prune - skip
   rebalance - skip
 reblock - skip
  recopy - run..^Cdfly-bkpsrv#


Pruning didn't take place this time because I ran hammer cleanup in the morning.

Now the snapshots that remain according to snapls are

dfly-bkpsrv# hammer snapls /Backup1/www-5mbak/www-hot
Snapshots on /Backup1/www-5mbak/www-hot PFS #5
Transaction ID  Timestamp   Note
0x0001d45fe0f0  2010-04-26 09:01:06 IST -
0x0001d5b79500  2010-04-26 09:05:21 IST -
0x0001d5db1c40  2010-04-26 11:45:36 IST -
0x0001d5dc1e40  2010-04-26 11:50:08 IST -
0x0001d5dc9fd0  2010-04-26 11:55:19 IST -
dfly-bkpsrv#

but if I access the removed snapshots with their old softlinks I still
get them :-(

dfly-bkpsrv# ls -l snap-20100421-11*
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  47 Apr 21 11:03 snap-20100421-1103 -
/Backup1/www-5mbak/www-hot/@@0x0001cfb1fad0
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  47 Apr 21 11:10 snap-20100421-1110 -
/Backup1/www-5mbak/www-hot/@@0x0001cfb1fcb0
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  47 Apr 21 11:15 snap-20100421-1115 -
/Backup1/www-5mbak/www-hot/@@0x0001cfb1fe70
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  47 Apr 21 11:20 snap-20100421-1120 -
/Backup1/www-5mbak/www-hot/@@0x0001cfb1ff70
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  47 Apr 21 11:25 snap-20100421-1125 -
/Backup1/www-5mbak/www-hot/@@0x0001cfb20070
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  47 Apr 21 11:30 snap-20100421-1130 -
/Backup1/www-5mbak/www-hot/@@0x0001cfb20170
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  47 Apr 21 11:35 snap-20100421-1135 -
/Backup1/www-5mbak/www-hot/@@0x0001cfb20270
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  47 Apr 21 11:40 snap-20100421-1140 -
/Backup1/www-5mbak/www-hot/@@0x0001cfb20370
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  47 Apr 21 11:45 snap-20100421-1145 -
/Backup1/www-5mbak/www-hot/@@0x0001cfb20470
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  47 Apr 21 11:50 snap-20100421-1150 -
/Backup1/www-5mbak/www-hot/@@0x0001cfb20570
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  47 Apr 21 11:55 snap-20100421-1155 -
/Backup1/www-5mbak/www-hot/@@0x0001cfb20690
You have new mail.
dfly-bkpsrv# cd snap-20100421-1103
dfly-bkpsrv# pwd
/Backup1/www-5mbak/www-hot/@@0x0001cfb1fad0
dfly-bkpsrv# ls
2.0
dfly-bkpsrv# cd 2.0/
dfly-bkpsrv# pwd
/Backup1/www-5mbak/www-hot/@@0x0001cfb1fad0/2.0
dfly-bkpsrv# cd ../../../snap-20100421-1155
dfly-bkpsrv# pwd
/Backup1/www-5mbak/www-hot/@@0x0001cfb20690
dfly-bkpsrv# ls
2.0
dfly-bkpsrv# cd 2.0/
dfly-bkpsrv# pwd
/Backup1/www-5mbak/www-hot/@@0x0001cfb20690/2.0
dfly-bkpsrv#

Now I just entered the next synctid of a snapshot simply.

dfly-bkpsrv# pwd
/Backup1/www-5mbak/www-hot/@@0x0001cfb20691
dfly-bkpsrv# ls
2.0
dfly-bkpsrv# cd 2.0/
dfly-bkpsrv# pwd
/Backup1/www-5mbak/www-hot/@@0x0001cfb20691/2.0
dfly-bkpsrv#

I could access it also just like I access a snapshot.

But the next snapshot is actually

dfly-bkpsrv# cd /Backup1/www-5mbak/
dfly-bkpsrv# ls -l snap-20100421-1200
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  47 Apr 21 12:00 snap-20100421-1200 -
/Backup1/www-5mbak/www-hot/@@0x0001cfb207b0

So does it mean pruning also didn't work?

I am just confused please somebody help and clarify :-)

Thanks

--Siju


Re: Disabling snapshot symlinks during manual snapshot

2010-04-26 Thread Siju George
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 3:16 AM, Patrick Georgi
patrick.geo...@coresystems.de wrote:
 Am 22.04.2010 07:30, schrieb Siju George:
 The pfs is mounted inside the snapshot Directory.

 For a MS Windows user it will look like the actual pic below.

 http://picasaweb.google.com/sgeorge.ml/OpenBSDDesktop#5462824618389365522

 Clicking on the snapshot Directory they can get the snapshot contents :-)
 Your mail (and the mention on the digest) inspired me to try to
 configure samba's shadow_copy2 VFS module to match.


That is great patrick :-)

--Siju


RE: make buildworld error: field 'sysctl_ctx' has incomplete type

2010-04-26 Thread Alex Hornung
: /usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys/sys/dsched.h:112: error: field
: 'sysctl_ctx' has incomplete type
: *** Error code 1

This issue is fixed in commit 22befd90ce33cce626d1b4c5eafca9bc2770ceea[1].

Cheers,
Alex Hornung


[1]:
http://gitweb.dragonflybsd.org/dragonfly.git/commit/22befd90ce33cce626d1b4c5
eafca9bc2770ceea



pfs-update code does not check if 'snapshots' directory exists

2010-04-26 Thread Siju George
Hi,

dfly-bkpsrv# hammer pfs-update mysql-hot prune-min=4d label=Daily
backup of MySQL DB with histroy retained for 4 days
snapshots=/Backup2/mysql-daily-bak
mysql-hot
sync-beg-tid=0x0001
sync-end-tid=0x0001d7bb29d0
shared-uuid=7b22b9b9-5111-11df-8e52-011617202aa6
unique-uuid=7b22b9d8-5111-11df-8e52-011617202aa6
label=Daily backup of MySQL DB with histroy retained for 4 days
snapshots=/Backup2/mysql-daily-bak
prune-min=4d
operating as a MASTER
dfly-bkpsrv# ls -l /Backup2/mysql-daily-bak
ls: /Backup2/mysql-daily-bak: No such file or directory
dfly-bkpsrv# mkdir /Backup2/mysql-daily-bak
dfly-bkpsrv# ls -l /Backup2/mysql-daily-bak
total 0


Is it a bug or was this done on purpose?

Thanks

-Siju


Re: pfs-update code does not check if 'snapshots' directory exists

2010-04-26 Thread YONETANI Tomokazu
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 02:32:56PM +0530, Siju George wrote:
 Is it a bug or was this done on purpose?

I'm not sure if it's intended, but if the specified directory doesn't exist,
the snapshots phase of `hammer cleanup' happily replaces the PFS symlink
with a snap-MMDD-hhmm and the subsequent phases fail.  Maybe cleanup
command should refuse to proceed if it doesn't have write access to the
snapshot directory (or print a warning and forget about it?).

Cheers.


Re: Hammer clean up doesn't actually remove snapshots?

2010-04-26 Thread Thomas Nikolajsen
but if I access the removed snapshots with their old softlinks I still
get them :-(

Accessing deleted snapshots gives undefined behavior.

If you try, you might see parts of directories and files;
anything between all and nothing might be 'missing'.

In general accessing @@TID symlinks for pruned ranges gives undefined behavior;
so if TID (Transaction ID) is not on a snapshot, or
is older (lower number) than your most recent snapshot, or
you are not within defined prune-min (PFS parameter) period,
hammer pruning  reblocking are allowed to delete historic data.
This is just what hammer cleanup does, wrapping up the task.

I think this is described in the manual pages hammer(8)  HAMMER(5):
http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/cgi/web-man?command=HAMMER
http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/cgi/web-man?command=hammer
..
prune softlink-dir
 Prune the file system based on previously created snapshot soft-
 links.  Pruning is the act of deleting file system history.  The
 prune command will delete file system history such that the file
 system state is retained for the given snapshots, and all history
 after the latest snapshot.  By setting the per PFS parameter
 prune-min, history is guaranteed to be saved at least this time
 interval. All other history is deleted.

If description is not clear, you are very welcome to suggest changes.

 -thomas



Insufficients buffers for rebalance

2010-04-26 Thread Sdävtaker
Hi,
I got the Insufficient buffers for rebalance in 2.6.2-RELEASE #1
It was running in a virtualbox with 128MB ram and 60GB hd, i read that it
need to have more than 128MB memory in an old mail, so i incresed the memory
to 386MB, still get the same error everytime i run rebalance.
Any suggestions?
Damian

-- 
http://dfbsd.trackbsd.org.ar


Amount of wiki spam

2010-04-26 Thread Matthias Schmidt
Hi,

as you might noticed the amount of spam in our wiki increases (at least
in my opinion).

I thought about some possibilities to reduce the amount of spam.  What
do you guys think about it?

- Registering a new account is no longer possible without administrator
  approval.  Is this supported by ikiwiki or would this lead to an
  enormous amount of approval posts?  Maybe Justin can comment on this
  ...
- Add some captchas to the wiki.  I really hate (!) captchas, but if
  this helps I'm fine with it.

- Maybe more ...

IMO the current protection of our main website is too fragile.  Some
weeks ago a malicious guy even managed it to remove our main site.  And
while I'm here: it would be nice if we could enforce commit messages
for the wiki.  Most people change things without explaining what
they're doing and you have to look into the git
changelog to figure it out.

Cheers

Matthias


pkgsrc libarchive issues and another sub-version release cycle

2010-04-26 Thread Matthew Dillon
We've been having some build issues with pkgsrc recently.  One of
the main issues has been libarchive which moved to a new extattr ABI.
Snapshots have been broken for too long because of this and other
issues.

The only way to solve this properly is to update our extattr ABI
(basically dummy system calls in our case).  I have done this on HEAD
and MFCd the work into the 2.6 branch.

Once we get daily snapshot builds and pkgsrc bulk builds working again
I intend to do another mini-release cycle for 2.6.  The next
mini-release will probably occur in 1.5 to 2 weeks.

-Matt



Re: Amount of wiki spam

2010-04-26 Thread Matthew Dillon
I agree completely w/ regards to requiring registrations to be
vetted.  I'm kinda getting tired of the wiki getting messed up
all the time too.
 
-Matt


Re: Insufficients buffers for rebalance

2010-04-26 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Hi,
:I got the Insufficient buffers for rebalance in 2.6.2-RELEASE #1
:It was running in a virtualbox with 128MB ram and 60GB hd, i read that it
:need to have more than 128MB memory in an old mail, so i incresed the memory
:to 386MB, still get the same error everytime i run rebalance.
:Any suggestions?
:Damian

Don't bother trying to rebalance.  It won't actually hurt the filesystem
much to not rebalance.  The rebalancer needs a lot of buffer cache
buffers to operate at the moment and there's no easy solution other
then to add memory.

-Matt


Re: Amount of wiki spam

2010-04-26 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Mon, April 26, 2010 11:36 am, Matthias Schmidt wrote:
 Hi,

 as you might noticed the amount of spam in our wiki increases (at least
 in my opinion).

I'm only noticing one spamming event maybe every couple of weeks.  Am I
missing more items?  I watch page changes through RSS.   The old wiki was
getting spammed multiple times an hour, so this is light, relatively
speaking.

I think we've really benefited from the wiki free-to-edit-and-revert
style; the number of people making changes has gone up significantly. 
zero, the number we had before, is easy to improve on - but even since
it became truly wiki-like and open to editing the amount of contributions
has improved.

 - Registering a new account is no longer possible without administrator
   approval.  Is this supported by ikiwiki or would this lead to an
   enormous amount of approval posts?  Maybe Justin can comment on this
   ...

We can set it so that people need a password to create a new account; it
could be a commonly known password or even something on the web page, like
a lazy captcha.

http://ikiwiki.info/plugins/passwordauth/ (account_creation_password option)

I don't know how much difference this will make.  There's also a spam filter:

http://ikiwiki.info/plugins/blogspam/

This will reject changes that look spamm; I have not tried it but it won't
hurt.

Also, since it's stored in git, we can revert easily.  If I (or someone)
got around to setting the permissions right on the actual git repo,
/usr/local/www/ikiwiki-srcdir/, you could even pull and revert without
having to re-enter anything.


 - Add some captchas to the wiki.  I really hate (!) captchas, but if
   this helps I'm fine with it.

I haven't seen a single automated spam hit our site.  They've all been
attempts from individuals, as far as I can tell; the wiki equivalent of
gold farmers.  A captcha won't help with that.

 - Maybe more ...

 IMO the current protection of our main website is too fragile.  Some
 weeks ago a malicious guy even managed it to remove our main site.  And
 while I'm here: it would be nice if we could enforce commit messages
 for the wiki.  Most people change things without explaining what
 they're doing and you have to look into the git
 changelog to figure it out.

I'd like to see enforced messages too.  I don't see an easy way to do that.





Re: Amount of wiki spam

2010-04-26 Thread Matthew Dillon
Hmm.  Well, when I think about it careful its more of a bad memory
than anything recent.  I do like the idea of having an easy-to-remember
global password that we can just paste on irc.  It might be worth trying
that.

-Matt


Re: Snapshots ordering on slave and pfs according to freequency for snapshot management

2010-04-26 Thread Matthew Dillon

:All I need is to figure out how to remove the 5mins snapshots that
:gets mirrored on the slave older than two days with out removing the
:daily snapshots.
:
:But I am a bit confused now since I dont see snapshots actually
:removed after a hammer cleanup.
:I will send the details with a new subject
:
:thanks
:
:--Siju

hammer cleanup only removes snapshots over X days old.  It can't
distinguish between fine-grained and coarse-grained snapshots
that you explicitly tell hammer to make.  You would have to remove
those yourself (if you want to expire them before the X days)
using hammer snaprm.

You can script it fairly easily by setting the comment field for
each snapshot you take, then filtering out the list based on that.
See the manual page.

-Matt
Matthew Dillon 
dil...@backplane.com


Re: Amount of wiki spam

2010-04-26 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Mon, April 26, 2010 9:01 pm, Matthew Dillon wrote:
 Hmm.  Well, when I think about it careful its more of a bad memory
 than anything recent.  I do like the idea of having an
 easy-to-remember global password that we can just paste on irc.
 It might be worth trying that.

We could do what NetBSD does with their online bug forms.  There's a last
sentence that says This server runs NetBSD. To verify you are not a bot,
which OS does this server run? with a little spot to type NetBSD.  We
could do the same, possibly.



Re: Amount of wiki spam

2010-04-26 Thread Matthew Dillon

:
:On Mon, April 26, 2010 9:01 pm, Matthew Dillon wrote:
: Hmm.  Well, when I think about it careful its more of a bad memory
: than anything recent.  I do like the idea of having an
: easy-to-remember global password that we can just paste on irc.
: It might be worth trying that.
:
:We could do what NetBSD does with their online bug forms.  There's a last
:sentence that says This server runs NetBSD. To verify you are not a bot,
:which OS does this server run? with a little spot to type NetBSD.  We
:could do the same, possibly.

Ooh, I like that.  Here's the password XYZ, pleaes type it in.  heh.

-Matt
Matthew Dillon 
dil...@backplane.com