Re: Amount of wiki spam
Hi, * Justin C. Sherrill wrote: www.dragonflybsd.org's updated, both in ikiwiki version and the note on the edit page - if the message still isn't dramatic enough, we can make it more noticeable. Thanks for your work! Let's try it with this message and see if its works. If not, we could add some more colors ;) Cheers Matthias
Re: Amount of wiki spam
On Tue, April 27, 2010 9:44 pm, Justin C. Sherrill wrote: On Tue, April 27, 2010 5:04 am, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: On Tue, 27 Apr 2010, Matthias Schmidt wrote: We could add line in blinking, red letters Please provide a commit message ;) This should be possible w/o digging into the ikiwiki internals. www.dragonflybsd.org's updated, both in ikiwiki version and the note on the edit page - if the message still isn't dramatic enough, we can make it more noticeable.
Re: Amount of wiki spam
Moin, * Justin C. Sherrill wrote: We could do what NetBSD does with their online bug forms. There's a last sentence that says This server runs NetBSD. To verify you are not a bot, which OS does this server run? with a little spot to type NetBSD. We could do the same, possibly. Great idea ... +1 for that! Cheers Matthias
Re: Amount of wiki spam
Moin, * Justin C. Sherrill wrote: I'd like to see enforced messages too. I don't see an easy way to do that. We could add line in blinking, red letters Please provide a commit message ;) This should be possible w/o digging into the ikiwiki internals. Cheers Matthias
Re: Amount of wiki spam
On Monday 26 April 2010 22:04:54 Justin C. Sherrill wrote: We could do what NetBSD does with their online bug forms. There's a last sentence that says This server runs NetBSD. To verify you are not a bot, which OS does this server run? with a little spot to type NetBSD. We could do the same, possibly. I've seen some forms that say a random arithmetic problem and require the answer. Pierre -- I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales.
Re: Amount of wiki spam
On Tue, 27 Apr 2010, Matthias Schmidt wrote: I'd like to see enforced messages too. I don't see an easy way to do that. We could add line in blinking, red letters Please provide a commit message ;) This should be possible w/o digging into the ikiwiki internals. Very easy. create a templatedir copy editpage.tmpl modify it to add the message. configure ikiwiki to point to the templatedir (not all templates need to be copied)
Re: Amount of wiki spam
On Tue, April 27, 2010 5:04 am, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: On Tue, 27 Apr 2010, Matthias Schmidt wrote: We could add line in blinking, red letters Please provide a commit message ;) This should be possible w/o digging into the ikiwiki internals. Very easy. create a templatedir copy editpage.tmpl modify it to add the message. configure ikiwiki to point to the templatedir (not all templates need to be copied) Perfect timing - The version of ikiwiki that just came out today supports template files within the content. I'll see if I can upgrade tonight and get this working.
Amount of wiki spam
Hi, as you might noticed the amount of spam in our wiki increases (at least in my opinion). I thought about some possibilities to reduce the amount of spam. What do you guys think about it? - Registering a new account is no longer possible without administrator approval. Is this supported by ikiwiki or would this lead to an enormous amount of approval posts? Maybe Justin can comment on this ... - Add some captchas to the wiki. I really hate (!) captchas, but if this helps I'm fine with it. - Maybe more ... IMO the current protection of our main website is too fragile. Some weeks ago a malicious guy even managed it to remove our main site. And while I'm here: it would be nice if we could enforce commit messages for the wiki. Most people change things without explaining what they're doing and you have to look into the git changelog to figure it out. Cheers Matthias
Re: Amount of wiki spam
I agree completely w/ regards to requiring registrations to be vetted. I'm kinda getting tired of the wiki getting messed up all the time too. -Matt
Re: Amount of wiki spam
On Mon, April 26, 2010 11:36 am, Matthias Schmidt wrote: Hi, as you might noticed the amount of spam in our wiki increases (at least in my opinion). I'm only noticing one spamming event maybe every couple of weeks. Am I missing more items? I watch page changes through RSS. The old wiki was getting spammed multiple times an hour, so this is light, relatively speaking. I think we've really benefited from the wiki free-to-edit-and-revert style; the number of people making changes has gone up significantly. zero, the number we had before, is easy to improve on - but even since it became truly wiki-like and open to editing the amount of contributions has improved. - Registering a new account is no longer possible without administrator approval. Is this supported by ikiwiki or would this lead to an enormous amount of approval posts? Maybe Justin can comment on this ... We can set it so that people need a password to create a new account; it could be a commonly known password or even something on the web page, like a lazy captcha. http://ikiwiki.info/plugins/passwordauth/ (account_creation_password option) I don't know how much difference this will make. There's also a spam filter: http://ikiwiki.info/plugins/blogspam/ This will reject changes that look spamm; I have not tried it but it won't hurt. Also, since it's stored in git, we can revert easily. If I (or someone) got around to setting the permissions right on the actual git repo, /usr/local/www/ikiwiki-srcdir/, you could even pull and revert without having to re-enter anything. - Add some captchas to the wiki. I really hate (!) captchas, but if this helps I'm fine with it. I haven't seen a single automated spam hit our site. They've all been attempts from individuals, as far as I can tell; the wiki equivalent of gold farmers. A captcha won't help with that. - Maybe more ... IMO the current protection of our main website is too fragile. Some weeks ago a malicious guy even managed it to remove our main site. And while I'm here: it would be nice if we could enforce commit messages for the wiki. Most people change things without explaining what they're doing and you have to look into the git changelog to figure it out. I'd like to see enforced messages too. I don't see an easy way to do that.
Re: Amount of wiki spam
Hmm. Well, when I think about it careful its more of a bad memory than anything recent. I do like the idea of having an easy-to-remember global password that we can just paste on irc. It might be worth trying that. -Matt
Re: Amount of wiki spam
On Mon, April 26, 2010 9:01 pm, Matthew Dillon wrote: Hmm. Well, when I think about it careful its more of a bad memory than anything recent. I do like the idea of having an easy-to-remember global password that we can just paste on irc. It might be worth trying that. We could do what NetBSD does with their online bug forms. There's a last sentence that says This server runs NetBSD. To verify you are not a bot, which OS does this server run? with a little spot to type NetBSD. We could do the same, possibly.
Re: Amount of wiki spam
: :On Mon, April 26, 2010 9:01 pm, Matthew Dillon wrote: : Hmm. Well, when I think about it careful its more of a bad memory : than anything recent. I do like the idea of having an : easy-to-remember global password that we can just paste on irc. : It might be worth trying that. : :We could do what NetBSD does with their online bug forms. There's a last :sentence that says This server runs NetBSD. To verify you are not a bot, :which OS does this server run? with a little spot to type NetBSD. We :could do the same, possibly. Ooh, I like that. Here's the password XYZ, pleaes type it in. heh. -Matt Matthew Dillon dil...@backplane.com
