Re: cross-Compiling DFBSD on an Ubuntu machine.
On 03/11/2012 05:27 PM, karim.allah.ah...@gmail.com wrote: So, I thought It would be a good idea to work on porting DFBSD as DomU for xen for education. I think Xen already supports hardware virtualization (Intel VT or AMD-V) and it should be able to run unmodified operating systems like DFBSD and windows.
Re: cross-Compiling DFBSD on an Ubuntu machine.
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Edward M. martinezedward...@gmail.comwrote: On 03/11/2012 05:27 PM, karim.allah.ah...@gmail.com wrote: So, I thought It would be a good idea to work on porting DFBSD as DomU for xen for education. I think Xen already supports hardware virtualization (Intel VT or AMD-V) and it should be able to run unmodified operating systems like DFBSD and windows. I meant as a PV guest. -- Karim Allah Ahmed. LinkedIn http://eg.linkedin.com/pub/karim-allah-ahmed/13/829/550/
Re: cross-Compiling DFBSD on an Ubuntu machine.
On Mon, 2012-03-12 at 02:27 +0200, karim.allah.ah...@gmail.com wrote: Well, Ok .. Let me clarify. I'm extremely interested in virtualization, and particularly xen. So, I thought It would be a good idea to work on porting DFBSD as DomU for xen for education. Now, I'm not sure what should my development environment be like ! What do you think is the perfect development environment to do so ? You might want to set up a virtual machine. Then you could use your preferred tools for development and only use DragonFly to build the sources. NFS shares and ssh would help you making this process nearly seamless. As this solution seems pretty obvious, I believe there should be some catch I didn't notice. Please comment if so. -- Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Re: cross-Compiling DFBSD on an Ubuntu machine.
n Mon, 2012-03-12 at 10:14 +0100, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote: On Mon, 2012-03-12 at 02:27 +0200, karim.allah.ah...@gmail.com wrote: Well, Ok .. Let me clarify. I'm extremely interested in virtualization, and particularly xen. So, I thought It would be a good idea to work on porting DFBSD as DomU for xen for education. Now, I'm not sure what should my development environment be like ! What do you think is the perfect development environment to do so ? You might want to set up a virtual machine. [...] That's not to mention the possibility of installing DragonFly and using it, which might be the best solution in this case. -- Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Re: cross-Compiling DFBSD on an Ubuntu machine.
Well, I think launching a VM and using NFS is the best solution then. I just wished I could cross-compile it or something, I was gonna use a machine that didn't have a VT support for the development, so launching a VM and compiling could have been a very slow operation. I guess now I'll use my laptop ( with intel-VT ) for the dev. and about installing DFBSD, well I don't think that this is ideal .. I need a xen with Dom0 ( linux for instance ) running in order to test directly on it. Thanks for your response. On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff czark...@gmail.comwrote: n Mon, 2012-03-12 at 10:14 +0100, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote: On Mon, 2012-03-12 at 02:27 +0200, karim.allah.ah...@gmail.com wrote: Well, Ok .. Let me clarify. I'm extremely interested in virtualization, and particularly xen. So, I thought It would be a good idea to work on porting DFBSD as DomU for xen for education. Now, I'm not sure what should my development environment be like ! What do you think is the perfect development environment to do so ? You might want to set up a virtual machine. [...] That's not to mention the possibility of installing DragonFly and using it, which might be the best solution in this case. -- Dmitrij D. Czarkoff -- Karim Allah Ahmed. LinkedIn http://eg.linkedin.com/pub/karim-allah-ahmed/13/829/550/
Re: cross-Compiling DFBSD on an Ubuntu machine.
On Mon, 2012-03-12 at 11:56 +0200, karim.allah.ah...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I think launching a VM and using NFS is the best solution then. I just wished I could cross-compile it or something, I was gonna use a machine that didn't have a VT support for the development, so launching a VM and compiling could have been a very slow operation. I guess now I'll use my laptop ( with intel-VT ) for the dev. If so, you could actually install DragonFly on the machine you wanted to use initially and NFS/ssh to it for development tasks. Then you could configure another NFS mount so that the built media would land on your laptop so that you could test the image in Xen. -- Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Re: cross-Compiling DFBSD on an Ubuntu machine.
NetBSD invested a lot of time in build.sh, so that they can build on a fair number of platforms. It would be pretty cool if someone wanted to do the same here :0 -- vs;
Re: cross-Compiling DFBSD on an Ubuntu machine.
On 3/11/2012 19:14, karim.allah.ah...@gmail.com wrote: I've an Ubuntu machine ( oneiric ), Is it possible to cross-compile DFBSD ? Thanks. -- Karim Allah Ahmed. LinkedIn http://eg.linkedin.com/pub/karim-allah-ahmed/13/829/550/ What is it exactly that you want to cross-compile? The userland? The kernel? Or just some program that can run DragonFly? The basic answer is that yes it's possible, but cross compiling is not particularly easy to set up (in general, applies to all systems). I don't know what you are trying to accomplish though. John
Re: cross-Compiling DFBSD on an Ubuntu machine.
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Alex Hornung ahorn...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/03/12 18:14, karim.allah.ah...@gmail.com wrote: I've an Ubuntu machine ( oneiric ), Is it possible to cross-compile DFBSD ? In a nutshell: no, it isn't possible. Cheers, Alex To clarify: the build infrastructure would probably support it, perhaps with minor modifications -- IF you had a properly working cross-compiler and you were able to bootstrap all of the dependencies up through the cross-tools build stage with that compiler on Linux. Nobody has done this to my knowledge, so probably it would be a fair amount of work to actually get it all working. Best, Sam
Re: cross-Compiling DFBSD on an Ubuntu machine.
Well, Ok .. Let me clarify. I'm extremely interested in virtualization, and particularly xen. So, I thought It would be a good idea to work on porting DFBSD as DomU for xen for education. Now, I'm not sure what should my development environment be like ! What do you think is the perfect development environment to do so ? Thanks On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:08 AM, Samuel J. Greear s...@evilcode.net wrote: On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Alex Hornung ahorn...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/03/12 18:14, karim.allah.ah...@gmail.com wrote: I've an Ubuntu machine ( oneiric ), Is it possible to cross-compile DFBSD ? In a nutshell: no, it isn't possible. Cheers, Alex To clarify: the build infrastructure would probably support it, perhaps with minor modifications -- IF you had a properly working cross-compiler and you were able to bootstrap all of the dependencies up through the cross-tools build stage with that compiler on Linux. Nobody has done this to my knowledge, so probably it would be a fair amount of work to actually get it all working. Best, Sam -- Karim Allah Ahmed. LinkedIn http://eg.linkedin.com/pub/karim-allah-ahmed/13/829/550/
