[libreoffice-users] How to /successfully/ unsub? A FAQ?
Is there an alternate method for unsubscribing, since the email method is NOT working for me? When I send unsub messages to the listserv (as detailed in all the message footers, etc.), they either bounce outright, state that I'm not subscribed or say that I've been unsubscribed. But the messages keep on coming regardless...! At home, I've resorted to having my email client autodelete them as they arrive, but when I'm on the road checking from the web or phone, they're all there and I have to wade through them. It's really annoying, to say the least. I guess it's testament to the quality of LibO that I don't 'need' the list anymore Can anyone point me at a URL or alternate contact I can reach to get truly disconnected? I'll certainly do my level best to find any replies via my phone (since I'm not at home now), but if some kind soul can help and would also cc: lphilpo...@gmail.com, that would be superb! :-) Over the years I've (un)subbed to many a maillist, but I've never had this much trouble... Thanks a million. -- Len Philpot (sent from webmail) l...@philpot.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Native MySQL-connection
Le 28/05/11 10:20, Heinrich Stoellinger a écrit : Hi Heinrich, I just installed 3.4rc2 and also deleted the cache subdirectory before installation. Same result... Try completely removing or, if you don't want to lose all your settings, renaming, your user libreoffice directory. You may have a corrupted user configuration (which seems to happen from time to time, but I don't know why). Then restart LibreOffice and just re-install mysql-connector-1.0.1.oxt. If you can see the connector in your new user configuration, then there is something that got screwed up with the old one somewhere... Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: tabs in LibreOffice - like you can do for MS-Word?
2011/5/29 Roland Hughes rol...@logikalsolutions.com: The only 4 people in the world that like Compiz are the people who wrote Compiz. It serves absolutely NO useful purpose, yet continually trashes both systems and screens. I actually find it very useful and I don't have any problems of that kind you mention, as far as I have noticed. However, I won't try to convince you to use it or anything like that. The world is a lot more fun with different kinds of people; otherwise we could populate the earth with clones of me… So please continue to not using Compiz-Fusion. Also, when people ask me about GNU/Linux and what I think, I usually recommend them to continue with Windows. That way, I don't have to help them when things go wrong; I just tell them that I don't know anything about it. Regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ In OpenSuSE 11.4, just try changing your mouse pointer size. Same thing in last 2 Ubuntu. There are THOUSANDS of other bugs and system problems caused by that completely worthless puddle of bits. It is horribly designed and written by people that don't have the slightest bit of programming skill. On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 00:35 +0200, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2011/5/28 Roland Hughes rol...@logikalsolutions.com: It is turned on by default in both the latest releases of Ubuntu and OpenSuSE. It is a bug ridden piece of doo-doo which hoses all mouse pointer changes making most new distros unusable by AARP members and people with poor vision. It will randomly and without reason popup a 4 desktop control window which end users know nothing about. If you are impatient while a computer is booting and move your mouse while compiz is loading IT WILL CHANGE YOUR SCREEN SIZE. There are only 4 people in the world who like that hunk of doo doo. Which four people are you referring to? Regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 19:38 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I thought it's just for fancy desktops like spinning cubes with movies playing on all sides and wobbly windows and stuff like that. Yes, that and some hundreds of other things, most of them useless, but some of them are really making life a little bit easier. Just inactivate the useless stuff and activate the useful ones. Regards from Tom :) From: Roland Hughes rol...@logikalsolutions.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 28 May, 2011 18:17:55 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: tabs in LibreOffice - like you can do for MS-Word? Compiz is a crime against humanity. There are exactly 4 people in the known universe who like that pathetic excuse for a system crasher. Are those the same four people as those mentioned above? On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 16:28 +0200, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2011/5/28 Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com: 2011/5/28 webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com: On 05/27/2011 09:33 PM, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from plinopedl...@gmail.com on Fri, 27 May 2011 15:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Are you aware that, at least in Win. that you can move between documents using Alt+tab? I find that much faster than trying to use a mouse. If you have a bunch of tasks running it's not so handy, but normally you are only switching between a few windows and it is very quick. Are you aware that if you press Ctrl+Tab you can do the same between documents (or tabs) within the same program? :) That works also, but ALT+Tab for me, is an easier finger movement and Win treats each document in LO or OO as a separate window so if I have to bounce between two LO windows either one accomplishes the task. As I said, that is Windows, but what about both Linux or Mac? The idea of tabbed documents IN LibreOffice would be a cross-platform idea and not depend on knowing a shortcut for a particular platform. Oops, I accidently sent this before I was finished… I hate my keyboard… Okay, I'll take it from the beginning: I accidently said earlier that you switch between open applications in GNU/Linux (at least with Gnome as the desktop environment; I don't know about KDE, LXDE and the others) with Ctrl+⇥. I don't really know why I wrote that, because it's plain wrong. Of course I meant Alt+⇥, nothing else (yes, ”⇥” is the Tab key), so it's just like in Windows, except that you have more than one desktop (user settable between 1 and 1024 with Compiz if I recall correctly, and most of the well known GNU/Linux-distributions comes with Compiz pre-installed). Regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ It would be nice to have this tabbed option like in Firefox. It would be easier to use than having multiple LO tasks in the task bar [bottom,
[libreoffice-users] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
Le 28/05/11 01:53, Roland Hughes a écrit : Hi Roland, This plugin was one of the few reasons I bothered with OpenOffice. Being able to write blog entries off-line using fonts and specific layouts was awesome. It appears absolutely nothing has been done on this since 2009. Is anybody going to pick up the ball??? I suggest you file a bug report or a feature enhancement request on freedesktop bugzilla - the user list is not where your question will be answered in all likelihood. Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How to /successfully/ unsub? A FAQ?
Hi, Am 28.05.2011 23:18, schrieb lenphil...@suddenlink.net: ... the email method is NOT working for me? When I send unsub messages to the listserv (as detailed in all the message footers, etc.), they either bounce outright, state that I'm not subscribed or say that I've been unsubscribed. [...] Thanks a million. -- Len Philpot (sent from webmail) l...@philpot.org Obviously you are using more than one mail address (e.g. l...@philpot.org, lenphil...@suddenlink.net). In order to unsubscribe you must send an email from the same mail address you were using when you subscribed. Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Trivia Question - Further Observation
Excellent post, Alexander. I agree that it is essential to have written rules of what to expect and what not to expect from a project. I totally disagree with LO's philosophy of Even if we broke something we might not fix it but it is better to know that than for users to complain and demand pointlessly. And the advice for people to get support from LO supporting companies is also an excellent point. I think TDF should use your post to make things clear to everybody instead of leaving it all in the grey area Kudos! -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/changes-for-this-mailing-list-tp2983621p2998110.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trivia Question - Further Observation
Hi :) Hopefully some of those issues will be discussed and agreed, perhaps even voted on as the official membership grows. Hopefully issues will be up for further discussions again when the membership is much larger again. Support Contracts need to be available for very much less and hopefully will be. A £200 GBP / month is reaching the realms of paying an in-house dev. Maybe only about 6hours/month (including over-heads) but way beyond the reach of most users. Regards from Tom :) From: Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 29 May, 2011 8:58:24 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trivia Question - Further Observation Le 28/05/11 09:57, t...@iafrica.com a écrit : Hi, Thanks Alex Appreciate your thoughts.. Does that mean I have to buy special support to correct bugs in a released version of LibO? If then you might as well cut the hype about open system and charge licence fee's like MS at least then we might get an Impress that basically works. Not as such, because some bugs will be fixed eventually whatever happens, but : - if you want enterprise stability in LibreOffice, the advice I have been given and told to disseminate is to take out a support contract with one of the more general enterprise support providers (Novell, Suse, RedHat, Ubuntu ?, others ?) which are specifically offering LibreOffice support ; - taking out a support contract will help those companies, who currently contribute code to the development of LibreOffice, to prioritise bug fixing and feature development - it makes no difference if the bug you have discovered was part of a functionality already included in Impress or some weird behaviour that you might have discovered from one version to the next - development and releases will continue irrespective of such consideration ; - even functionality that used to work in previous OOo versions, and no longer works in LibO, will not necessarily receive priority treatment - the major stopppers are bugs that cause crashes, and only then if they are multiplatform, mulit-OS (with a slight preference for Linux and Windows) and are perceived by the core developers as affecting many users. I doubt that you will find any of the above written down _clearly_ in any of the Foundation's, or LibreOffice.org's website pages, although much of it is present in the various discussion lists (developer, foundation, marketing). It is one of my major gripes with the project as it currently stands that there is a lot of hype and very little down to earth in your face explanation of a consensus of where the project should be going. Perhaps that is just down to my personality of requiring things to be as clear as possible up front so that at least I can weigh up whether it is potentially worth investing more in the project than I currently do (and I am already fairly heavily involved). An example : can anyone point me to a webpage from the Foundation or the LibreOffice.org site where it clearly states that LibreOffice is not intended for business use or that if you are a business you should buy support ? FWIW, if you trawl around the net a bit, you can find enterprise support vendors for LibreOffice : http://www.credativ.co.uk/services/support/projects/office/libreoffice/ at 200 GBP / month whether such a contract will actually get your bug problem fixed is another matter... http://www.lanedo.com/libreoffice.html No publicly accessible pricing that I could see. They also offer to actually fix bugs. HTH, Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Impress Health Warning!
Hi Alex, Re: Trivia Much appreciate your open and transparent view. I like down to earth discussion. My (sad) conclusion is that I have to back off LibO Impress and cannot seriously consider changing from the shackles of MS. I also think maybe us Impress guinea-pig users are in the minority and it's only Write Calc that get the majority of attention. I do not believe it's unreasonable to request accurate information of product issues and scheduled fixes. I think Libo should carry a health warning! Basically stating that you can use LibO at your own peril and that business users do so entirely at their own risk. In particular LibO Office suite of programs are not interchangeable with their MS counterpart and their functionality is not guaranteed. [rant mode on] My specific point here is the function in Impress Interaction - Play Sound. on the surface this looks very similar to MS PP play-sound equivalent BUT (a) is completely different (b) utterly fails if you attempt to convert Impress to Powerpoint and (b) Frequently loses all paths (links) between icons on screen and associated audio files. (Any potential Impress users beware!) [rant mode off] Had I seen such information prior to attempting to seriously use Impress I could have saved myself much wasted time and effort. Not to mention the piss-poor quality of Impress Help documentation. I also think LibO for Linux and LibO for MS is a world apart Linux users are by nature are more technically capable than your average MS Windows user (of which I am one - shouts of speak for yourself...) So if LibO is to ever meet the needs of the mass market of which MS Office is the dominant platform you gotta give us lesser mortals a stable and well documented product. Fatal Blue Screens and years of MS abuse have taught us MS Office Users how to seriously bitch. When MS wrecked the old interface to MS -Office by introducing their anal GUI that's when I turned to Impress out of desperation, (not because it was free), and hoped for some normality as I loved its User interface and much of it's functionality. However as MS Users our hands are tied! If we use alternative programs they have to have interchange compatibility or our business communication is threatened. I'm now licking my wounds (open sores ?) and have reverted to PP 2003 to retain my sanity what else can I do? Impress - This Product can be hazardous to your health! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Default Paper size
Hi :) I looked there but couldn't find it in English (GB) help files yet. Could you copypaste the clear and concise explanation you found? Pointing at documentation is great if you can summarise it well. Certainly better than blind guesses or an Rtfm answer ;) Regards from Tom :) From: Peter Hillier-Brook p...@hbsys.plus.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 29 May, 2011 10:36:14 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Default Paper size From: SAMAIR Peru - Michael Mahonsamair.pe.m...@southamericamission.org To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Mon, 23 May, 2011 17:33:02 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Default Paper size Our office uses A4 paper as our default paper in all applications. How can I set the default paper size. I have a work around in a template, but it would be a lot easier to set it once since we are looking at installing it on several machines. It would be great if I can do this in Calc and Writer. -- *Michael * Have you considered looking in Help? If you enter 'default' in the search box you will find clear and concise explanations for your problem. Peter HB -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Impress Health Warning!
Hi I think sticking with PowerPoint 2003 is smart. Hopefully Impress will catch up and be able to do the things it claims to be able to do. Sadly and annoyingly it's going to be a long while before that happens. Regards from Tom :) From: t...@iafrica.com t...@iafrica.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 29 May, 2011 10:42:47 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Impress Health Warning! Hi Alex, Re: Trivia Much appreciate your open and transparent view. I like down to earth discussion. My (sad) conclusion is that I have to back off LibO Impress and cannot seriously consider changing from the shackles of MS. I also think maybe us Impress guinea-pig users are in the minority and it's only Write Calc that get the majority of attention. I do not believe it's unreasonable to request accurate information of product issues and scheduled fixes. I think Libo should carry a health warning! Basically stating that you can use LibO at your own peril and that business users do so entirely at their own risk. In particular LibO Office suite of programs are not interchangeable with their MS counterpart and their functionality is not guaranteed. [rant mode on] My specific point here is the function in Impress Interaction - Play Sound. on the surface this looks very similar to MS PP play-sound equivalent BUT (a) is completely different (b) utterly fails if you attempt to convert Impress to Powerpoint and (b) Frequently loses all paths (links) between icons on screen and associated audio files. (Any potential Impress users beware!) [rant mode off] Had I seen such information prior to attempting to seriously use Impress I could have saved myself much wasted time and effort. Not to mention the piss-poor quality of Impress Help documentation. I also think LibO for Linux and LibO for MS is a world apart Linux users are by nature are more technically capable than your average MS Windows user (of which I am one - shouts of speak for yourself...) So if LibO is to ever meet the needs of the mass market of which MS Office is the dominant platform you gotta give us lesser mortals a stable and well documented product. Fatal Blue Screens and years of MS abuse have taught us MS Office Users how to seriously bitch. When MS wrecked the old interface to MS -Office by introducing their anal GUI that's when I turned to Impress out of desperation, (not because it was free), and hoped for some normality as I loved its User interface and much of it's functionality. However as MS Users our hands are tied! If we use alternative programs they have to have interchange compatibility or our business communication is threatened. I'm now licking my wounds (open sores ?) and have reverted to PP 2003 to retain my sanity what else can I do? Impress - This Product can be hazardous to your health! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Arrangement of user colours
I wonder if there is any way to rearrange the colours in the palette (Tools Options Colours), and likewise in the array that is presented under Background Colour and Font Colour. I’m prepared to bet it’s in an XML file hidden away somewhere. But where? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Arrangement of user colours
Hi Séamas, Séamas Ó Brógáin schrieb: I wonder if there is any way to rearrange the colours in the palette (Tools Options Colours), and likewise in the array that is presented under Background Colour and Font Colour. I’m prepared to bet it’s in an XML file hidden away somewhere. But where? They are delivered in installation-path/Basis/presets/config and from there for each new user copied to the user folder 'config'. It is the file standard.soc Kind regards Regina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Arrangement of user colours
Regina: Found it. Danke schön! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] A little OT but: Re: Re: Trivia Question - Paying for Support
In news:4de21b26.1625.1040c...@timi.iafrica.com, t...@iafrica.com t...@iafrica.com typed: Hi Alex, I was just reflecting on the concept of having to pay for support to resolve my Impress problem Such a venture could cost major bucks if it is a serious code issue indeed it might not be fixable without the actual developers. OK, Lets say I spend big money to get it fixed what happens to the solution which I've paid for? Do I get shares in LibO for providing funding? If the bug was in an Application which I owned then it makes sense to invest but for a User to invest money into a pit with no bottom it makes no commercial sense. My FD would have a fit... he pays for MS licences but would never pay MS for Operating System support! His view being if it's sold world wide as an operating system then it should fit for purpose. The above not being applicable to private Applications we may chose to develop. Imagine paying MS to resolve the Fatal Blue Screen... What? Kind regards Un-Impressed This is/was an interesting and useful thread for putting a lot of things into context without a lot of angst or bitch-modes; congrats to all for the competence shown throughout. In my case, I find the occasional mentions of when some things will appear, or relative time frames even, acceptable although a schedule that's adhered to would be nice. OTOH though, many of the developers here also have families and a real job that keep food on the table so I can easily excuse the lax schedules. The vast majority of people responsible for the actual underlying code and other functions appears by far to be volunteers, not paid personnel and they have accomplished a fantastic amount of work in a short time to get LO off the ground and functional for at least most people. As was mentioned, Writer and Calc are my two most used applications in LO where I have much less use for Impress, the real subject of this part of the thread. Most of the other applications in LO I simply learn from the ground up in LO and make few comparisons to MS; it makes it easier to pick up on the nuances for the most part. Base will be my next target and I'm lucky in that my needs for Impress aren't great. What I create in Impress is for my own personal use as presentations, etc. of MINE and not something where I must pass the files on to another person or department, so if I get it working in Impress, which I find fairly easy to use, that's as far as I have to go; next step is in the meeting rooms of whomever the presentation is for. Thus for me, I don't run into many of the problems discussed here. IMO, LO is in pretty good shape and should improve considerably over the next year or so. As for fixes that won't be fixed, I pray that's an over/under statement because if I take it seriously and as was stated, it'd be a huge disappointment unless there were at least workarounds or a different way of gettng what the users needed, which will never be an ignored bug. And I do understand that there wll be problems with available resources, expertise and all kinds of thing but eventually every single legitimate bug needs to be addressed. Just my two cents, nothing more. I'm an avid user and I hope that folks like un-impressed will check back now and then. The biggest thing I think is missing is a straght-forward, bulleted list of bugs problems for each application within Lbre Office. I don't find the bug-tracking system to be very good for such a purpose. Had this existed, perhaps Un-Impressed wouldn't have posted that he had to leave Impress. At a minimum the list/s could save a lot of people a lot of heartache by reading it before going producton-mode for several days/weeks and then dscovering some important function is buggy or missing as yet. I suspect such a list could be generated from the bug-tracker as opposed tosomeone sitting down and recreating the wheel. Best Regards, Twayne` -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
There is not a single ^TY)*()(*)(ing link on the LibreOffice site to file a bug report!!1 On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 10:02 +0200, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 28/05/11 01:53, Roland Hughes a écrit : Hi Roland, This plugin was one of the few reasons I bothered with OpenOffice. Being able to write blog entries off-line using fonts and specific layouts was awesome. It appears absolutely nothing has been done on this since 2009. Is anybody going to pick up the ball??? I suggest you file a bug report or a feature enhancement request on freedesktop bugzilla - the user list is not where your question will be answered in all likelihood. Alex -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net No U.S. troops have ever lost their lives defending our ethanol reserves. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: [Libreoffice] Word doesn't see symbols - More Analysis
Word Perfect solved this problem decades ago. WPD format allowed for the complete embedding of fonts within the document. Word Perfect used its own font rendering engine so as long as it had the complete font embedded in the document life was good, be it on Windows or OS/2 or OpenVMS. Yes, WordPerfect even had a version for OpenVMS. On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 19:23 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Although the symptoms of font problems show up in the context of Word - LibreOffice Writer, the situation is trickier than that. It is exacerbated by failure to use standard Unicode code points, eliminating the possibility of successful font substitutions, especially for symbols that don't vary that much from one font to another and there is little danger of confusion. 1. AVAILABLE FONTS Most office-productivity software products rely on the fonts installed on the operating system, sharing those fonts with all software on the platform. It is also the case that the installation of software products will install fonts, optionally or automatically, for users on that computer. (Some fonts are only licensed to be used with the product or platform on which the product is installed.) Users can also install an enormous variety of fonts of their own choosing, whether licensed from a font foundry or obtained from one of the sources of unrestricted fonts. Example: Beside the fonts that are available on the platform directly, my main Windows 7 desktop system has fonts installed by Microsoft Office 2010, Visual Studio 2010, Photoshop Elements, Word Perfect X5 Standard, and LibreOffice 3.3.2, among others. All of these fonts are available to LibreOffice 3.3.2 Writer. 2. INTERCHANGING DOCUMENTS WITH FONT DEPENDENCIES When fonts use essentially the same code points for the same characters, but with differences in font-face design, there are techniques to substitute a close kindred font when the specific font is not available to the consumer of a document. This might create problems with metrics, but there are many fonts that substitute well enough. Systems may provide automatic substitutions for fonts that are not installed. Products also have ways to let users direct the substitutions. Example: In LibreOffice, the Tools | Options | LibreOffice | Fonts dialog provides for substitutions. The Help topic indicates the range of capabilties. Font substitutions don't work so well for decorative fonts and it is generally not possible for symbol fonts that use special code pages (older systems) or non-standard Unicode code points for their characters. Some fonts don't provide substitutions very well at all. In particular, there is no assured substitution for Unicode-based fonts that rely on code points in the Unicode Private Use Area, U+E000 to U+F8FF. Example: The Microsoft Symbol, Webdings, Wingdings, Wingdings2, and Wingdings 3 each use private-use code points in the same range: U+F020 to F0FF. U+F020 is always a space character, but the other code points are not substitutable characters among those fonts. Likewise, OpenSymbol uses some standard Unicode code points but it also includes an extensive number of code points in the private-use range U+E001 to U+E6A3. These do not correspond to the use of private-use code points by Linux Libertine G (a Serif Unicode-based font) and Linux Biolinum G (a Sans Serif Unicode-based font). None of these characters that have private-use code points are substitutable among different symbol-only or Unicode-based fonts. A significant number of the characters defined in the Private Use Area also have standard Unicode code points. The standard Unicode code points should always be used instead if fonts that include them are available, such as Lucida Sans Unicode and Cambria Math. Linux Biolinium G can also be used this way so long as its Private Use Area characters are avoided. Generally, the greatest fidelity is obtained if it can be arranged to have the same font and font metrics installed on the computer system of the document consumers as were used by the document producer and on which the document depends. For documents that use characters from the private use area of fonts available to the document producer, the only prospect for successful interchange is if the document consumer has a font that defines those very same characters at the same code points of the private use area. This has to be accomplished by private convention. 3. PROVIDING THE FONTS THAT A DOCUMENT DEPENDS ON If the same software is used by the producer and consumer, there is no difficulty when fonts consistently-supplied with the software, are used even if the platforms are different. If the font has a different source, or different software is being used, there needs to be another way to provide the necessary font for use by the consumer. There
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
Hi, On Sun, 29 May 2011 08:28:04 -0500 Roland Hughes rol...@logikalsolutions.com wrote: There is not a single ^TY)*()(*)(ing link on the LibreOffice site to file a bug report!!1 sorry, but you are wrong! There is. If you don't believe me, see for yourself: Go to libreoffice.org/get involved/Developers/File Bugs There is a link to bugzilla. Sigrid -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
And just how many users are going to dig that deep to find out how to file a bug report? ___Most___ sites, including the original OpenOffice site, put file bug report links either on the first page OR under the Support heading. You didn't even have the decency to put it under Get Help. As a general rule, when the bug report page is under the Developer tree, it tends to be expert friendly requiring reports filed only by people working directly with the code and uploading patches for the bugs they find...not end users who find vicious bugs. On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 16:24 +0200, Sigrid Carrera wrote: Hi, On Sun, 29 May 2011 08:28:04 -0500 Roland Hughes rol...@logikalsolutions.com wrote: There is not a single ^TY)*()(*)(ing link on the LibreOffice site to file a bug report!!1 sorry, but you are wrong! There is. If you don't believe me, see for yourself: Go to libreoffice.org/get involved/Developers/File Bugs There is a link to bugzilla. Sigrid -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net No U.S. troops have ever lost their lives defending our ethanol reserves. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
Hi :) Things are not perfect yet. We do need people to point out faults so that we can fix them. Of course we are going to be slightly over-sensitive to criticism when we care so much about the project but we need to get beyond that and just improve things. What has been done so far is amazing. I think this question really needs to go to the website team's mailing list but i am not on it. Could someone else, perhaps Roland, talk to them about this? Regards from Tom :) From: Roland Hughes rol...@logikalsolutions.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 29 May, 2011 15:41:13 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken And just how many users are going to dig that deep to find out how to file a bug report? ___Most___ sites, including the original OpenOffice site, put file bug report links either on the first page OR under the Support heading. You didn't even have the decency to put it under Get Help. As a general rule, when the bug report page is under the Developer tree, it tends to be expert friendly requiring reports filed only by people working directly with the code and uploading patches for the bugs they find...not end users who find vicious bugs. On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 16:24 +0200, Sigrid Carrera wrote: Hi, On Sun, 29 May 2011 08:28:04 -0500 Roland Hughes rol...@logikalsolutions.com wrote: There is not a single ^TY)*()(*)(ing link on the LibreOffice site to file a bug report!!1 sorry, but you are wrong! There is. If you don't believe me, see for yourself: Go to libreoffice.org/get involved/Developers/File Bugs There is a link to bugzilla. Sigrid -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net No U.S. troops have ever lost their lives defending our ethanol reserves. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
Hi again Sorry i should have mentioned this page for advice about posting bug-reports http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport and it includes this link straight to the BugZilla website https://bugs.freedesktop.org/ Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@googlemail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 29 May, 2011 15:24:05 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken Hi, On Sun, 29 May 2011 08:28:04 -0500 Roland Hughes rol...@logikalsolutions.com wrote: There is not a single ^TY)*()(*)(ing link on the LibreOffice site to file a bug report!!1 sorry, but you are wrong! There is. If you don't believe me, see for yourself: Go to libreoffice.org/get involved/Developers/File Bugs There is a link to bugzilla. Sigrid -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
Despite being longtime user of OOo and Libo, I never report any bugs. I think even very complicated. I think we could get something more simple that would work from within LibreOffice. Here in Brazil we have an example with CoGrOO Community. CoGrOO is a grammar checker developed by students at USP (Universidade de São Paulo). With Cogroo Comunidade it's possible to contribute to the development of the extension directly from LibreOffice. Just an idea that occurred to me now. Regards, Luiz Oliveira Em 29-05-2011 11:41, Roland Hughes escreveu: And just how many users are going to dig that deep to find out how to file a bug report? ___Most___ sites, including the original OpenOffice site, put file bug report links either on the first page OR under the Support heading. You didn't even have the decency to put it under Get Help. As a general rule, when the bug report page is under the Developer tree, it tends to be expert friendly requiring reports filed only by people working directly with the code and uploading patches for the bugs they find...not end users who find vicious bugs. On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 16:24 +0200, Sigrid Carrera wrote: Hi, On Sun, 29 May 2011 08:28:04 -0500 Roland Hughes rol...@logikalsolutions.com wrote: There is not a single ^TY)*()(*)(ing link on the LibreOffice site to file a bug report!!1 sorry, but you are wrong! There is. If you don't believe me, see for yourself: Go to libreoffice.org/get involved/Developers/File Bugs There is a link to bugzilla. Sigrid -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
Hi :) That would be great. Then other packages that also use CoGrOO couild also post bug-reports directly to the CoGrOO part of BugZilla. I have a feeling that it already works very much like that. I think triagers in BugZilla can move threads from one project to another within BugZilla. Ubuntu and other projects often tend to have a down-stream bugs/wish-list/questions place and only bump things up to BugZilla when needed. I'm not sure about any of this so it would be interesting to know if you're idea is already the way things are meant to work. Regards from Tom :) From: lcoluiggi lcolui...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 29 May, 2011 16:13:10 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken Despite being longtime user of OOo and Libo, I never report any bugs. I think even very complicated. I think we could get something more simple that would work from within LibreOffice. Here in Brazil we have an example with CoGrOO Community. CoGrOO is a grammar checker developed by students at USP (Universidade de São Paulo). With Cogroo Comunidade it's possible to contribute to the development of the extension directly from LibreOffice. Just an idea that occurred to me now. Regards, Luiz Oliveira Em 29-05-2011 11:41, Roland Hughes escreveu: And just how many users are going to dig that deep to find out how to file a bug report? ___Most___ sites, including the original OpenOffice site, put file bug report links either on the first page OR under the Support heading. You didn't even have the decency to put it under Get Help. As a general rule, when the bug report page is under the Developer tree, it tends to be expert friendly requiring reports filed only by people working directly with the code and uploading patches for the bugs they find...not end users who find vicious bugs. On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 16:24 +0200, Sigrid Carrera wrote: Hi, On Sun, 29 May 2011 08:28:04 -0500 Roland Hughes rol...@logikalsolutions.com wrote: There is not a single ^TY)*()(*)(ing link on the LibreOffice site to file a bug report!!1 sorry, but you are wrong! There is. If you don't believe me, see for yourself: Go to libreoffice.org/get involved/Developers/File Bugs There is a link to bugzilla. Sigrid -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: tabs in LibreOffice - like you can do for MS-Word?
That's brilliant :) And then when they have problems with Windows you can say you don't know how to fix it because you use gnulinux to avoid those types of problems :)) Regards from Tom :) From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 29 May, 2011 8:23:24 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: tabs in LibreOffice - like you can do for MS-Word? 2011/5/29 Roland Hughes rol...@logikalsolutions.com: The only 4 people in the world that like Compiz are the people who wrote Compiz. It serves absolutely NO useful purpose, yet continually trashes both systems and screens. I actually find it very useful and I don't have any problems of that kind you mention, as far as I have noticed. However, I won't try to convince you to use it or anything like that. The world is a lot more fun with different kinds of people; otherwise we could populate the earth with clones of me… So please continue to not using Compiz-Fusion. Also, when people ask me about GNU/Linux and what I think, I usually recommend them to continue with Windows. That way, I don't have to help them when things go wrong; I just tell them that I don't know anything about it. Regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ In OpenSuSE 11.4, just try changing your mouse pointer size. Same thing in last 2 Ubuntu. There are THOUSANDS of other bugs and system problems caused by that completely worthless puddle of bits. It is horribly designed and written by people that don't have the slightest bit of programming skill. On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 00:35 +0200, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2011/5/28 Roland Hughes rol...@logikalsolutions.com: It is turned on by default in both the latest releases of Ubuntu and OpenSuSE. It is a bug ridden piece of doo-doo which hoses all mouse pointer changes making most new distros unusable by AARP members and people with poor vision. It will randomly and without reason popup a 4 desktop control window which end users know nothing about. If you are impatient while a computer is booting and move your mouse while compiz is loading IT WILL CHANGE YOUR SCREEN SIZE. There are only 4 people in the world who like that hunk of doo doo. Which four people are you referring to? Regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 19:38 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I thought it's just for fancy desktops like spinning cubes with movies playing on all sides and wobbly windows and stuff like that. Yes, that and some hundreds of other things, most of them useless, but some of them are really making life a little bit easier. Just inactivate the useless stuff and activate the useful ones. Regards from Tom :) From: Roland Hughes rol...@logikalsolutions.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 28 May, 2011 18:17:55 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: tabs in LibreOffice - like you can do for MS-Word? Compiz is a crime against humanity. There are exactly 4 people in the known universe who like that pathetic excuse for a system crasher. Are those the same four people as those mentioned above? On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 16:28 +0200, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2011/5/28 Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com: 2011/5/28 webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com: On 05/27/2011 09:33 PM, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from plinopedl...@gmail.com on Fri, 27 May 2011 15:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Are you aware that, at least in Win. that you can move between documents using Alt+tab? I find that much faster than trying to use a mouse. If you have a bunch of tasks running it's not so handy, but normally you are only switching between a few windows and it is very quick. Are you aware that if you press Ctrl+Tab you can do the same between documents (or tabs) within the same program? :) That works also, but ALT+Tab for me, is an easier finger movement and Win treats each document in LO or OO as a separate window so if I have to bounce between two LO windows either one accomplishes the task. As I said, that is Windows, but what about both Linux or Mac? The idea of tabbed documents IN LibreOffice would be a cross-platform idea and not depend on knowing a shortcut for a particular platform. Oops, I accidently sent this before I was finished… I hate my keyboard… Okay, I'll take it from the beginning: I accidently said earlier that you switch between open applications in GNU/Linux (at least with Gnome as the desktop environment; I don't know about KDE, LXDE and the others) with Ctrl+⇥. I don't really know why I wrote that, because it's plain wrong. Of course I meant Alt+⇥, nothing else (yes, ”⇥” is the Tab key), so it's just like in Windows, except that you have more
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: tabs in LibreOffice - like you can do for MS-Word?
Hi :) There seems to be a question about it interfering with accessibility which sounds pretty serious but i don't know where would be the best place to report it. It's nothing to do with LibreOffice of course but it must be very frustrating trying to get anyone appropriate to listen. Regards from Tom :) From: Roland Hughes rol...@logikalsolutions.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 29 May, 2011 2:05:10 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: tabs in LibreOffice - like you can do for MS-Word? The only 4 people in the world that like Compiz are the people who wrote Compiz. It serves absolutely NO useful purpose, yet continually trashes both systems and screens. In OpenSuSE 11.4, just try changing your mouse pointer size. Same thing in last 2 Ubuntu. There are THOUSANDS of other bugs and system problems caused by that completely worthless puddle of bits. It is horribly designed and written by people that don't have the slightest bit of programming skill. On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 00:35 +0200, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2011/5/28 Roland Hughes rol...@logikalsolutions.com: It is turned on by default in both the latest releases of Ubuntu and OpenSuSE. It is a bug ridden piece of doo-doo which hoses all mouse pointer changes making most new distros unusable by AARP members and people with poor vision. It will randomly and without reason popup a 4 desktop control window which end users know nothing about. If you are impatient while a computer is booting and move your mouse while compiz is loading IT WILL CHANGE YOUR SCREEN SIZE. There are only 4 people in the world who like that hunk of doo doo. Which four people are you referring to? Regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 19:38 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I thought it's just for fancy desktops like spinning cubes with movies playing on all sides and wobbly windows and stuff like that. Yes, that and some hundreds of other things, most of them useless, but some of them are really making life a little bit easier. Just inactivate the useless stuff and activate the useful ones. Regards from Tom :) From: Roland Hughes rol...@logikalsolutions.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 28 May, 2011 18:17:55 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: tabs in LibreOffice - like you can do for MS-Word? Compiz is a crime against humanity. There are exactly 4 people in the known universe who like that pathetic excuse for a system crasher. Are those the same four people as those mentioned above? On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 16:28 +0200, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2011/5/28 Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com: 2011/5/28 webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com: On 05/27/2011 09:33 PM, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from plinopedl...@gmail.com on Fri, 27 May 2011 15:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Are you aware that, at least in Win. that you can move between documents using Alt+tab? I find that much faster than trying to use a mouse. If you have a bunch of tasks running it's not so handy, but normally you are only switching between a few windows and it is very quick. Are you aware that if you press Ctrl+Tab you can do the same between documents (or tabs) within the same program? :) That works also, but ALT+Tab for me, is an easier finger movement and Win treats each document in LO or OO as a separate window so if I have to bounce between two LO windows either one accomplishes the task. As I said, that is Windows, but what about both Linux or Mac? The idea of tabbed documents IN LibreOffice would be a cross-platform idea and not depend on knowing a shortcut for a particular platform. Oops, I accidently sent this before I was finished… I hate my keyboard… Okay, I'll take it from the beginning: I accidently said earlier that you switch between open applications in GNU/Linux (at least with Gnome as the desktop environment; I don't know about KDE, LXDE and the others) with Ctrl+⇥. I don't really know why I wrote that, because it's plain wrong. Of course I meant Alt+⇥, nothing else (yes, ”⇥” is the Tab key), so it's just like in Windows, except that you have more than one desktop (user settable between 1 and 1024 with Compiz if I recall correctly, and most of the well known GNU/Linux-distributions comes with Compiz pre-installed). Regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ It would be nice to have this tabbed option like in Firefox. It would be easier to use than having multiple LO tasks in the task bar [bottom, side, or top of the screen] when you already have 4 or 5 other packages open at the same time. The idea is a good one to look into. Other
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trivia Question - Further Observation
Hi Alexander, Alexander Thurgood wrote (29-05-11 09:58) - if you want enterprise stability in LibreOffice, the advice I have been given and told to disseminate is to take out a support contract with one of the more general enterprise support providers (Novell, Suse, RedHat, Ubuntu ?, others ?) which are specifically offering LibreOffice support ; [...] An example : can anyone point me to a webpage from the Foundation or the LibreOffice.org site where it clearly states that LibreOffice is not intended for business use or that if you are a business you should buy support ? Well, some weeks (ago?) I've seen passing some discussion about this (not followed details). But to me it looks as a misinterpretation. - yes, support contracts are important, because also that generates revenues for the companies sponsoring developers of LibreOffice; - no, a support contract will not in general guarantee 'enterprise stability', because... what ís 'enterprise stability'? IMO the initial remark from Michael Meeks was to indicate that when you want to be rather sure (...) that specific fixes are done or features realized, you are welcome to do it yourself, have someone doing it (after all it is open source) or get a support contract that gives the right for fixing an amount of issues. So if an enterprise relies on specific features, it can simpley wait for the moment that is happens ... but probably it is not the most logic choice. Regards, Cor -- - http://nl.libreoffice.org - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Default Paper size
On 29/05/2011 11:17, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I looked there but couldn't find it in English (GB) help files yet. Could you copypaste the clear and concise explanation you found? Pointing at documentation is great if you can summarise it well. Certainly better than blind guesses or an Rtfm answer ;) Regards from Tom :) I don't see how it could be any more clear. From the menu bar select Help/LibreOfficeHelp then type the word 'default' in the search box. This brings you to default templates. from where you click on 'Display'. Read, mark and inwardly digest everything in the displayed section and you should be home and dry. The first paragraph is the key item, but it does presuppose that you understand the use of styles, specifically page styles. This is where you define A4 as the default page format. Peter HB -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: [Libreoffice] Word doesn't see symbols - More Analysis
On 29/05/11 2:23 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: 2. INTERCHANGING DOCUMENTS WITH FONT DEPENDENCIES When fonts use essentially the same code points for the same characters, but with differences in font-face design, there are techniques to substitute a close kindred font when the specific font is not available to the consumer of a document. This might create problems with metrics, but there are many fonts that substitute well enough. Systems may provide automatic substitutions for fonts that are not installed. Products also have ways to let users direct the substitutions. Example: In LibreOffice, the Tools | Options | LibreOffice | Fonts dialog provides for substitutions. The Help topic indicates the range of capabilties. The LO fonts dialogue referenced above does not show missing fonts and allow substitution (not in 3.3.2). If I open a document with Calibri (not on my system) and go to Tools | Options | LibreOffice | Fonts I cannot see the missing font Calibri or select it in the list of fonts to substitute. Is this a bug or intended functionality? steve -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Keyboard shortcuts that call for ctrl are not working on my mac
Hi :) I think you might have inadvertently chosen combinations that might be restricted in some way. Ctrl A is Select all Ctrl Z is Undo Ctrl Y is Redo but doesn't always work in every app Ctrl X is Cut Ctrl C is Copy or sometimes ends programs run from the command-line Ctrl V is Paste There are other ones that might not be quite so universally used, such as Ctrl S to save, Ctrl P to print, Ctrl W to close (not exit unless it's the last tab left open). Even if those don't work in Mac they might still be blocked from being re-defined in some cross-platform programs such as LibreOffice. So, hopefully the idea might work if you just use different keys but i really don't know much about styles so it could be a problem in there somewhere instead. Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: Anthony Grimes i...@raynes.me To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 29 May, 2011 22:33:37 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Keyboard shortcuts that call for ctrl are not working on my mac I'm writing a book and my publisher requires that I use a pretty insane stylesheet. The only way it's really manageable is with keyboard shortcuts. So, I've tried to add some keyboard shortcuts for these styles for the ^ keys. For example, I've bound a character style to ^Z. However, when I try to use it, I just get the letter 'z'. Furthermore, when I try ^A, the cursor moves up one paragraph regardless of what I have it bound to. Researching this issue, all I've found is this: http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17t=32720 which appears indicate that there was a bug that has long since been fixed. I'm using the latest version o LibreOffice: LibreOffice 3.3.2 OOO330m19 (Build:202) tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2 I can't really figure out what is going wrong here. Is this a bug? I feel like I might be one of only a few people experiencing this, because there is a huge lack of information about it on google. If so, am I doing something wrong? :\ I'm on OS X 10.6.7. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How to /successfully/ unsub? A FAQ?
Actually, I think that's the problem. l...@philpot.org is not a real email account, but rather just a redirector to lenphil...@suddenlink.net, which is my actual ISP account. That allows me to change ISPs, accounts, etc., as needed and keep the same email address. For years I've never run into issues, but it's apparently confusing the listserver here, since I've tried to unsub using both addresses and it seems neither has worked (it apparently doesn't like l...@philpot.org). However, I see there's an unsub confirmation email in my inbox, so maybe it's been done... ? Thanks for your reply! Stefan Weigel stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org wrote: Hi, Am 28.05.2011 23:18, schrieb lenphil...@suddenlink.net: ... the email method is NOT working for me? When I send unsub messages to the listserv (as detailed in all the message footers, etc.), they either bounce outright, state that I'm not subscribed or say that I've been unsubscribed. [...] Thanks a million. -- Len Philpot (sent from webmail) l...@philpot.org Obviously you are using more than one mail address (e.g. l...@philpot.org, lenphil...@suddenlink.net). In order to unsubscribe you must send an email from the same mail address you were using when you subscribed. Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Len Philpot (sent from webmail) l...@philpot.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Keyboard shortcuts that call for ctrl are not working on my mac
On OSX, those keybindings are different. They aren't 'standard' here. You might be right that they're blocked, but I've tried pretty much every ctrl key combo there is and they don't work. Furthermore, I can't even bind a cmd+ctrl key combo because they don't work either. Anything relating to ctrl simply does not work. I don't think this is a case of those keybindings being blocked. And to answer the other fellow's question, I'm using Customize - Keyboard to change keyboard shortcuts. Tom Davies tomdavies04 at yahoo.co.uk writes: Hi :) I think you might have inadvertently chosen combinations that might be restricted in some way. Ctrl A is Select all Ctrl Z is Undo Ctrl Y is Redo but doesn't always work in every app Ctrl X is Cut Ctrl C is Copy or sometimes ends programs run from the command-line Ctrl V is Paste There are other ones that might not be quite so universally used, such as Ctrl S to save, Ctrl P to print, Ctrl W to close (not exit unless it's the last tab left open). Even if those don't work in Mac they might still be blocked from being re-defined in some cross-platform programs such as LibreOffice. So, hopefully the idea might work if you just use different keys but i really don't know much about styles so it could be a problem in there somewhere instead. Good luck and regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Keyboard shortcuts that call for ctrl are not working on my mac
Hi. On my macbook cmd+x, cmd+c, cmd+v, cmd+z, cmd+a, others all work. LO 3.3.2, OSX 10.6.7 steve On 30/05/11 10:29 AM, Anthony Grimes wrote: On OSX, those keybindings are different. They aren't 'standard' here. You might be right that they're blocked, but I've tried pretty much every ctrl key combo there is and they don't work. Furthermore, I can't even bind a cmd+ctrl key combo because they don't work either. Anything relating to ctrl simply does not work. I don't think this is a case of those keybindings being blocked. And to answer the other fellow's question, I'm using Customize - Keyboard to change keyboard shortcuts. Tom Davies tomdavies04 at yahoo.co.uk writes: Hi :) I think you might have inadvertently chosen combinations that might be restricted in some way. Ctrl A is Select all Ctrl Z is Undo Ctrl Y is Redo but doesn't always work in every app Ctrl X is Cut Ctrl C is Copy or sometimes ends programs run from the command-line Ctrl V is Paste There are other ones that might not be quite so universally used, such as Ctrl S to save, Ctrl P to print, Ctrl W to close (not exit unless it's the last tab left open). Even if those don't work in Mac they might still be blocked from being re-defined in some cross-platform programs such as LibreOffice. So, hopefully the idea might work if you just use different keys but i really don't know much about styles so it could be a problem in there somewhere instead. Good luck and regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Keyboard shortcuts that call for ctrl are not working on my mac
Sorry, misinterpreted you problem. steve On 30/05/11 10:39 AM, Steve Edmonds wrote: Hi. On my macbook cmd+x, cmd+c, cmd+v, cmd+z, cmd+a, others all work. LO 3.3.2, OSX 10.6.7 steve On 30/05/11 10:29 AM, Anthony Grimes wrote: On OSX, those keybindings are different. They aren't 'standard' here. You might be right that they're blocked, but I've tried pretty much every ctrl key combo there is and they don't work. Furthermore, I can't even bind a cmd+ctrl key combo because they don't work either. Anything relating to ctrl simply does not work. I don't think this is a case of those keybindings being blocked. And to answer the other fellow's question, I'm using Customize - Keyboard to change keyboard shortcuts. Tom Davies tomdavies04 at yahoo.co.uk writes: Hi :) I think you might have inadvertently chosen combinations that might be restricted in some way. Ctrl A is Select all Ctrl Z is Undo Ctrl Y is Redo but doesn't always work in every app Ctrl X is Cut Ctrl C is Copy or sometimes ends programs run from the command-line Ctrl V is Paste There are other ones that might not be quite so universally used, such as Ctrl S to save, Ctrl P to print, Ctrl W to close (not exit unless it's the last tab left open). Even if those don't work in Mac they might still be blocked from being re-defined in some cross-platform programs such as LibreOffice. So, hopefully the idea might work if you just use different keys but i really don't know much about styles so it could be a problem in there somewhere instead. Good luck and regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Keyboard shortcuts that call for ctrl are not working on my mac
What about ctrl key bindings? Do they work as well? That's a sure way to tell if it's a bug or not. On 5/29/11 5:45 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote: Sorry, misinterpreted you problem. steve On 30/05/11 10:39 AM, Steve Edmonds wrote: Hi. On my macbook cmd+x, cmd+c, cmd+v, cmd+z, cmd+a, others all work. LO 3.3.2, OSX 10.6.7 steve On 30/05/11 10:29 AM, Anthony Grimes wrote: On OSX, those keybindings are different. They aren't 'standard' here. You might be right that they're blocked, but I've tried pretty much every ctrl key combo there is and they don't work. Furthermore, I can't even bind a cmd+ctrl key combo because they don't work either. Anything relating to ctrl simply does not work. I don't think this is a case of those keybindings being blocked. And to answer the other fellow's question, I'm using Customize - Keyboard to change keyboard shortcuts. Tom Davies tomdavies04 at yahoo.co.uk writes: Hi :) I think you might have inadvertently chosen combinations that might be restricted in some way. Ctrl A is Select all Ctrl Z is Undo Ctrl Y is Redo but doesn't always work in every app Ctrl X is Cut Ctrl C is Copy or sometimes ends programs run from the command-line Ctrl V is Paste There are other ones that might not be quite so universally used, such as Ctrl S to save, Ctrl P to print, Ctrl W to close (not exit unless it's the last tab left open). Even if those don't work in Mac they might still be blocked from being re-defined in some cross-platform programs such as LibreOffice. So, hopefully the idea might work if you just use different keys but i really don't know much about styles so it could be a problem in there somewhere instead. Good luck and regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Keyboard shortcuts that call for ctrl are not working on my mac
On 30/05/11 9:33 AM, Anthony Grimes wrote: I'm writing a book and my publisher requires that I use a pretty insane stylesheet. The only way it's really manageable is with keyboard shortcuts. So, I've tried to add some keyboard shortcuts for these styles for the ^ keys. For example, I've bound a character style to ^Z. However, when I try to use it, I just get the letter 'z'. Furthermore, when I try ^A, the cursor moves up one paragraph regardless of what I have it bound to. Researching this issue, all I've found is this: http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17t=32720 which appears indicate that there was a bug that has long since been fixed. I'm using the latest version o LibreOffice: LibreOffice 3.3.2 OOO330m19 (Build:202) tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2 I can't really figure out what is going wrong here. Is this a bug? I feel like I might be one of only a few people experiencing this, because there is a huge lack of information about it on google. If so, am I doing something wrong? :\ I'm on OS X 10.6.7. May be the ctl key is not passed to (accepted by) LO on the mac. the ctl key works in terminal and minicom, but like you say it cannot be set as a shortcut. It also seems that shift+cmd+key combinations are not passed (accepted). May be the combinations map differently on a mac. steve -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How to /successfully/ unsub? A FAQ?
Hi :) I think one of the steering group has fixed it for Len Philpot's various email accounts now :) Regards from Tom :) From: lenphil...@suddenlink.net lenphil...@suddenlink.net To: users@libreoffice.org Cc: Stefan Weigel stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org Sent: Sun, 29 May, 2011 22:03:56 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to /successfully/ unsub? A FAQ? Actually, I think that's the problem. l...@philpot.org is not a real email account, but rather just a redirector to lenphil...@suddenlink.net, which is my actual ISP account. That allows me to change ISPs, accounts, etc., as needed and keep the same email address. For years I've never run into issues, but it's apparently confusing the listserver here, since I've tried to unsub using both addresses and it seems neither has worked (it apparently doesn't like l...@philpot.org). However, I see there's an unsub confirmation email in my inbox, so maybe it's been done... ? Thanks for your reply! Stefan Weigel stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org wrote: Hi, Am 28.05.2011 23:18, schrieb lenphil...@suddenlink.net: ... the email method is NOT working for me? When I send unsub messages to the listserv (as detailed in all the message footers, etc.), they either bounce outright, state that I'm not subscribed or say that I've been unsubscribed. [...] Thanks a million. -- Len Philpot (sent from webmail) l...@philpot.org Obviously you are using more than one mail address (e.g. l...@philpot.org, lenphil...@suddenlink.net). In order to unsubscribe you must send an email from the same mail address you were using when you subscribed. Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Len Philpot (sent from webmail) l...@philpot.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] RE: [Libreoffice] Word doesn't see symbols - Substituting Fonts
The Tools | Fonts option is not related to any documents that happen to be open. It is generic. So it is not going to know about missing fonts. In my copy of 3.3.2, I found that I needed to check the box that says Apply replacement table. Although there are pull-downs that then list all of the installed fonts, I found that I could make up a font name for the Font entry and indicate that it be replaced by Calibri (which I already have installed). When I clicked the check box for the dialed-in replacement, I was then able to check Always and then select OK. The table now has the one row in it and it persists when I close LibreOffice and open it again. Does this not work on your system? - Dennis -Original Message- From: Steve Edmonds [mailto:steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com] Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 13:37 To: users@libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: [Libreoffice] Word doesn't see symbols - More Analysis On 29/05/11 2:23 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: 2. INTERCHANGING DOCUMENTS WITH FONT DEPENDENCIES When fonts use essentially the same code points for the same characters, but with differences in font-face design, there are techniques to substitute a close kindred font when the specific font is not available to the consumer of a document. This might create problems with metrics, but there are many fonts that substitute well enough. Systems may provide automatic substitutions for fonts that are not installed. Products also have ways to let users direct the substitutions. Example: In LibreOffice, the Tools | Options | LibreOffice | Fonts dialog provides for substitutions. The Help topic indicates the range of capabilties. The LO fonts dialogue referenced above does not show missing fonts and allow substitution (not in 3.3.2). If I open a document with Calibri (not on my system) and go to Tools | Options | LibreOffice | Fonts I cannot see the missing font Calibri or select it in the list of fonts to substitute. Is this a bug or intended functionality? steve -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] OTT keyboard customization
Greetings -- I have a ws.ott template file that allows me to use most WordStar navigation commands -- the cursor diamond, etc -- in Open Office. However, the same file does not work in LibreOffice... Is there any reason for this? Alex in Bangkok -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Impress mobility w/sound video + links
Starting a new thread vs Trivia Question - was: changes for this mailing list. The subject of embedding sound video with Impress has long been a thorn in OOo's backside for many years. In 2009 I brought up this thread on the OOo users list: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.questions/202220 [Impress mobility w/sound video 13 Nov 2009) Christian Lippka - Sun Microsystems GmbH - Hamburg carried out some work to embed sound video after bringing this up on the OOo UE list: http://openoffice.org/projects/ux/lists/discuss/archive/2009-11/message/38 My comments with Christian's msg left complete (on purpose): http://openoffice.org/projects/ux/lists/discuss/archive/2009-11/message/39 Christian did some work on the issue: http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16937 http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16937#c15 http://eis.services.openoffice.org/EIS2/cws.ShowCWS?Path=DEV300%2Fimpressmedia01 That work is targeted for OOo3.5. I've no idea whether Christian will take my advise to add a wizard to provide the user the option to embed or unembed etc., but it will be interesting to test. Apparently Christian's code (or some similar) found it's way in to Ubuntu's (go-oo) release around the (U)OOo 3.2.1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/660807 Reading that bug is somewhat interesting; it shows issues with the content.xml links. Searching: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__open__product=LibreOfficecontent=impress+links Also: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33156 [not shown in the former search as LO doesn't have a component tree for bugs, so you need to search in general] shows additional issues that have been filed for LO. Given Oracle's tossing OOo back over the fence, I am not even sure Christian (or anyone) is still working on this issue. But IMO Impress is a critical component of LO, so I would hope so. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Impress mobility w/sound video + links
Hi NoOp and all interested, the code that was integrated is not in a state that is usable for a product. Unfortunately I never got the time to finish it. There is still some work to be done. The wizard would actually be a good think, despite the fact that I already had it nearly working that you could embed sound and video using the link dialog. At this point I can't tell if I will work on this feature again, but if anyone wants to pick it up I'm willing to give guidance. Regards, Christian Am 30.05.2011 03:04, schrieb NoOp: Starting a new thread vs Trivia Question - was: changes for this mailing list. The subject of embedding sound video with Impress has long been a thorn in OOo's backside for many years. In 2009 I brought up this thread on the OOo users list: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.questions/202220 [Impress mobility w/sound video 13 Nov 2009) Christian Lippka - Sun Microsystems GmbH - Hamburg carried out some work to embed sound video after bringing this up on the OOo UE list: http://openoffice.org/projects/ux/lists/discuss/archive/2009-11/message/38 My comments with Christian's msg left complete (on purpose): http://openoffice.org/projects/ux/lists/discuss/archive/2009-11/message/39 Christian did some work on the issue: http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16937 http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16937#c15 http://eis.services.openoffice.org/EIS2/cws.ShowCWS?Path=DEV300%2Fimpressmedia01 That work is targeted for OOo3.5. I've no idea whether Christian will take my advise to add a wizard to provide the user the option to embed or unembed etc., but it will be interesting to test. Apparently Christian's code (or some similar) found it's way in to Ubuntu's (go-oo) release around the (U)OOo 3.2.1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/660807 Reading that bug is somewhat interesting; it shows issues with the content.xml links. Searching: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__open__product=LibreOfficecontent=impress+links Also: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33156 [not shown in the former search as LO doesn't have a component tree for bugs, so you need to search in general] shows additional issues that have been filed for LO. Given Oracle's tossing OOo back over the fence, I am not even sure Christian (or anyone) is still working on this issue. But IMO Impress is a critical component of LO, so I would hope so. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
On 05/29/2011 08:09 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Things are not perfect yet. We do need people to point out faults so that we can fix them. Of course we are going to be slightly over-sensitive to criticism when we care so much about the project but we need to get beyond that and just improve things. What has been done so far is amazing. Q. What is this 'we' you speak of? Do you have a mouse in your pocket? For some reason I fail to find you on: http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/ http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/members/ and I don't think that I've see you post code on the developers list. Your posts containing We do need people to point out faults, Of course we are going to be, when we care so much about the project, and but we need to get beyond that imply that you are speaking for LO, or the LO community at large. If you think you speak for the LO c(C)omunity at large; you certainly do not speak for me (no I'm not a 'member/founder/dev' I doubt that you speak for others on this list. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Impress mobility w/sound video + links
On 05/29/2011 06:58 PM, Christian Lippka wrote: Hi NoOp and all interested, the code that was integrated is not in a state that is usable for a product. Unfortunately I never got the time to finish it. There is still some work to be done. The wizard would actually be a good think, despite the fact that I already had it nearly working that you could embed sound and video using the link dialog. At this point I can't tell if I will work on this feature again, but if anyone wants to pick it up I'm willing to give guidance. Regards, Christian Christian, I wish to sincerely thank you for: 1) recognizing the issue to begin with importance, 2) for the effort that you put into the code, and 3) the kind offer to assist if anyone wants to pick it up again. Thank you Christian. Kind regards I wish you well. Gary Lee (NoOp) Note to Cor Nouws: any possibility that you could get any of the LO devs to review pick up Christian's code? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] RE: [Libreoffice] Word doesn't see symbols - Substituting Fonts
There used to be a plugin for OO which identified all missing fonts for a document. Perhaps it was never ported to LO. On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 16:43 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: The Tools | Fonts option is not related to any documents that happen to be open. It is generic. So it is not going to know about missing fonts. In my copy of 3.3.2, I found that I needed to check the box that says Apply replacement table. Although there are pull-downs that then list all of the installed fonts, I found that I could make up a font name for the Font entry and indicate that it be replaced by Calibri (which I already have installed). When I clicked the check box for the dialed-in replacement, I was then able to check Always and then select OK. The table now has the one row in it and it persists when I close LibreOffice and open it again. Does this not work on your system? - Dennis -Original Message- From: Steve Edmonds [mailto:steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com] Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 13:37 To: users@libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: [Libreoffice] Word doesn't see symbols - More Analysis On 29/05/11 2:23 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: 2. INTERCHANGING DOCUMENTS WITH FONT DEPENDENCIES When fonts use essentially the same code points for the same characters, but with differences in font-face design, there are techniques to substitute a close kindred font when the specific font is not available to the consumer of a document. This might create problems with metrics, but there are many fonts that substitute well enough. Systems may provide automatic substitutions for fonts that are not installed. Products also have ways to let users direct the substitutions. Example: In LibreOffice, the Tools | Options | LibreOffice | Fonts dialog provides for substitutions. The Help topic indicates the range of capabilties. The LO fonts dialogue referenced above does not show missing fonts and allow substitution (not in 3.3.2). If I open a document with Calibri (not on my system) and go to Tools | Options | LibreOffice | Fonts I cannot see the missing font Calibri or select it in the list of fonts to substitute. Is this a bug or intended functionality? steve -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net No U.S. troops have ever lost their lives defending our ethanol reserves. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
Wow! Someone definitely peed in your cornflakes this morning! On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 19:08 -0700, NoOp wrote: On 05/29/2011 08:09 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Things are not perfect yet. We do need people to point out faults so that we can fix them. Of course we are going to be slightly over-sensitive to criticism when we care so much about the project but we need to get beyond that and just improve things. What has been done so far is amazing. Q. What is this 'we' you speak of? Do you have a mouse in your pocket? For some reason I fail to find you on: http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/ http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/members/ and I don't think that I've see you post code on the developers list. Your posts containing We do need people to point out faults, Of course we are going to be, when we care so much about the project, and but we need to get beyond that imply that you are speaking for LO, or the LO community at large. If you think you speak for the LO c(C)omunity at large; you certainly do not speak for me (no I'm not a 'member/founder/dev' I doubt that you speak for others on this list. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net No U.S. troops have ever lost their lives defending our ethanol reserves. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
On 05/29/2011 07:42 PM, Roland Hughes wrote: Wow! Someone definitely peed in your cornflakes this morning! Try bottom or interleaved posting some time. peed in your cornflakes? My *point* is that Tom Davies is replying to users on this list as if he represents LO. New users to this list may be inclined to think that the we in his posts are coming from some 'official' LO source. If that is not obvious to you, then I suggest that you actually may have actually eaten the peed in cornflakes I'm happy to take this off list to discuss further so that we don't bore the list otherwise. On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 19:08 -0700, NoOp wrote: On 05/29/2011 08:09 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Things are not perfect yet. We do need people to point out faults so that we can fix them. Of course we are going to be slightly over-sensitive to criticism when we care so much about the project but we need to get beyond that and just improve things. What has been done so far is amazing. Q. What is this 'we' you speak of? Do you have a mouse in your pocket? For some reason I fail to find you on: http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/ http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/members/ and I don't think that I've see you post code on the developers list. Your posts containing We do need people to point out faults, Of course we are going to be, when we care so much about the project, and but we need to get beyond that imply that you are speaking for LO, or the LO community at large. If you think you speak for the LO c(C)omunity at large; you certainly do not speak for me (no I'm not a 'member/founder/dev' I doubt that you speak for others on this list. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
On 05/29/2011 08:25 PM, NoOp wrote: On 05/29/2011 07:42 PM, Roland Hughes wrote: Wow! Someone definitely peed in your cornflakes this morning! Try bottom or interleaved posting some time. peed in your cornflakes? My *point* is that Tom Davies is replying to users on this list as if he represents LO. New users to this list may be inclined to think that the we in his posts are coming from some 'official' LO source. If that is not obvious to you, then I suggest that you actually may have actually eaten the peed in cornflakes I'm happy to take this off list to discuss further so that we don't bore the list otherwise. ... Then again... I suppose we could all ask 'Shane' to be the LO spokesperson given his recent post on the LO dev list: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.devel/11685 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] OTT keyboard customization
Alex On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 07:17 +0700, Alex Mavro wrote: Greetings -- I have a ws.ott template file that allows me to use most WordStar navigation commands -- the cursor diamond, etc -- in Open Office. However, the same file does not work in LibreOffice... Is there any reason for this? Alex in Bangkok I am not sure, I would need to see some typical commands/key combinations. I am not very familiar with WordStar, I understand it is abandonware. I vaguely remember it from about 20 years ago but never used it. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] OTT keyboard customization
That will be interesting. I'd love to see a list of the WordStar keyboard commands. I remember using WordStar and also their text Editor (TextStar , I think) but it has been a long time -- around 30 years), both on CP/M-80. WordStar 2000 on MS-DOS was not so hot and I turned my back on it. (My next favorite was Borland Sprint, based on a word processor from the UK, I believe.) Now, the way these things works the various control-key combinations that started out in WordStar tended to find their way into later products, even though WordStar itself is long gone. There is an interesting account of this in Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wordstar#Interface. It mentions that the Turbo Pascal IDE (on a text interface) used the WordStar diamond, and I believe the Microsoft Editor, ME, designed for developers (and that I favored for a long time) also supported some of the Word Star keyboard command sequences. - Dennis -Original Message- From: planas [mailto:jsloz...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 21:22 To: users@libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] OTT keyboard customization Alex On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 07:17 +0700, Alex Mavro wrote: Greetings -- I have a ws.ott template file that allows me to use most WordStar navigation commands -- the cursor diamond, etc -- in Open Office. However, the same file does not work in LibreOffice... Is there any reason for this? Alex in Bangkok I am not sure, I would need to see some typical commands/key combinations. I am not very familiar with WordStar, I understand it is abandonware. I vaguely remember it from about 20 years ago but never used it. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How to /successfully/ unsub? A FAQ?
Hi, lenphil...@suddenlink.net wrote (29-05-11 23:03) Actually, I think that's the problem. l...@philpot.org is not a real email account, but rather just a redirector to lenphil...@suddenlink.net, which is my actual ISP account. That allows me to change ISPs, accounts, etc., as needed and keep the same email address. For years I've never run into issues, but it's apparently confusing the listserver here, since I've tried to unsub using both addresses and it seems neither has worked (it apparently Great that you sorted this out! doesn't like l...@philpot.org). However, I see there's an unsub confirmation email in my inbox, so maybe it's been done... ? Close to... pls reply to the confirmation mail with the approriate address. Thanks for your reply! You're welcome Cor -- - http://nl.libreoffice.org - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] OTT keyboard customization
Thanks, Dennis. I've attached both a list of all the WS commands and the .ott that supports a small but important sub-set of them. Unfortunately, like I said, the .ott works in OO but not in LO... or I am doing something wrong, perhaps? Wordstar came packaged with my Kaypro II, the then cutting-edge luggable that earned its keep with me for almost ten years beginning in the mid- to late-70s... or was it, early 80s? Anyhow, in some respects its capabilities -- most especially the virtually unknown WS for Windows, which was more a DTP program than an editor -- have still never been equaled. All I'm trying to arrange in LO are a few of the navigating/editing commands that I've painstakingly preserved over the past several years working with OO in the attached .ott file. As some will realize, keyboard tweaking of OO/LO is a major pain, since the editing/navigating commands are not organized in anything like rational order. For example, why aren't cursor up, cursor down, cursor left, and cursor right juxtaposed, in the listing? And the word movement equivalents: word left and word right -- why aren't they there, too, along with page up, para up, etc. As it is now, you have to fish all over the place to find the key assignments you want. Again, my thanks for the interest in helping. ### On 30 May 2011 12:06, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: That will be interesting. I'd love to see a list of the WordStar keyboard commands. I remember using WordStar and also their text Editor (TextStar , I think) but it has been a long time -- around 30 years), both on CP/M-80. WordStar 2000 on MS-DOS was not so hot and I turned my back on it. (My next favorite was Borland Sprint, based on a word processor from the UK, I believe.) Now, the way these things works the various control-key combinations that started out in WordStar tended to find their way into later products, even though WordStar itself is long gone. There is an interesting account of this in Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wordstar#Interface. It mentions that the Turbo Pascal IDE (on a text interface) used the WordStar diamond, and I believe the Microsoft Editor, ME, designed for developers (and that I favored for a long time) also supported some of the Word Star keyboard command sequences. - Dennis -Original Message- From: planas [mailto:jsloz...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 21:22 To: users@libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] OTT keyboard customization Alex On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 07:17 +0700, Alex Mavro wrote: Greetings -- I have a ws.ott template file that allows me to use most WordStar navigation commands -- the cursor diamond, etc -- in Open Office. However, the same file does not work in LibreOffice... Is there any reason for this? Alex in Bangkok I am not sure, I would need to see some typical commands/key combinations. I am not very familiar with WordStar, I understand it is abandonware. I vaguely remember it from about 20 years ago but never used it. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] OTT keyboard customization
Hi Alex, Alex Mavro wrote (30-05-11 02:17) Greetings -- I have a ws.ott template file that allows me to use most WordStar navigation commands -- the cursor diamond, etc -- in Open Office. However, the same file does not work in LibreOffice... Is there any reason for this? Well, the key bindings are not saved in the .ott, but in the user profile. So I guess you have to set up those for LibreOffice via Tools Customize ... Regards, Cor -- - http://nl.libreoffice.org - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
NoOp wrote (30-05-11 05:25) My *point* is that Tom Davies is replying to users on this list as if he represents LO. New users to this list may be inclined to think that the we in his posts are coming from some 'official' LO source. Tom not only brings in confusion about who he represents, also his typical contribution to the list is, however friendly it looks ( :-) ... :-\ ) adding confusion more than a to the point reply. And of course he still does not master his mail client. Cor -- - http://nl.libreoffice.org - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Impress mobility w/sound video + links
NoOp wrote (30-05-11 04:27) I wish to sincerely thank you for: 1) recognizing the issue to begin with importance, 2) for the effort that you put into the code, and 3) the kind offer to assist if anyone wants to pick it up again. Thank you Christian. Kind regards I wish you well. +1 Note to Cor Nouws: any possibility that you could get any of the LO devs to review pick up Christian's code? Well, do not over estimate my influence pls. But I can think about what to do... A great start of course is Christians offer to help. Maybe we can set up an interview, blog post, about the feature in the light of open source development and see if that attracts someone who likes the subject and has the time and right skills to help? Regards, Cor -- - http://nl.libreoffice.org - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
