[libreoffice-users] Slow Calc Macros

2011-08-04 Thread Onyeibo Oku
I did a python macro that adds sheets, renames them and fills in some formula 
in select cells. It also has a portion that deletes the sheets. 

I find that the sheet creation runs faster although there's more lines of code 
running. Whereas the sheet removal macro is just 2lines and runs 3-5times 
slower. Both routines use 'FOR' loops (the creating routine even has a nested 
loop).  

What could be responsible? Does calc recalculate for each removed sheet? Can 
that feature be toggled off via macro just before the removal loops ...and 
toggled back on?

Thanks in advance :)
-
from twohot@device.mobile :)

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[libreoffice-users] Activex control in LibreOffice 3.4.2?

2011-08-04 Thread dgbutterworth
My install package does not seem to have the ActiveX control for viewing
documents in Internet Explorer.  The help file, however, includes directions
on how to install the control (as an option in the install process).  What
am I missing?  Thanks for your assistance.

dgbutterworth

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Re: [libreoffice-users] looking for help on Base

2011-08-04 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Roberto,

Roberto Scotti wrote (04-08-11 10:19)


When I open Base if I choose to connect to an existing database the
list of available drivers doesn't include MS Access (or JET), it
includes only:
...


That connection is Windows only.
Does this explain what you see on your computer?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] looking for help on Base

2011-08-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It's probably better to stick with MS Access tbh.  Base is not being actively 
developed and there are no plans to recruit devs for it.  Hopefully some devs 
might stumble into the project at some point in the future and start working on 
the bugs.
Regards from
Tom :)





From: Roberto Scotti roberto.sco...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 9:19:33
Subject: [libreoffice-users] looking for help on Base

the site  http://www.libreoffice.org/features/base/   states
... provides native-support drivers for some of the most-widely
employed multi-user database engines: MySQL, Adabas D, MS Access...

When I open Base if I choose to connect to an existing database the
list of available drivers doesn't include MS Access (or JET), it
includes only:
JDBC
JDBC Oracle
Adabas D
Foglio elettronico
dBASE
Testo
MySQL
ODBC

How do you activate the MS Access native-support driver?
Is a SQLite native-support driver available?
Many thanks, Roberto Scotti


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: fontdescriptor seems to be empty

2011-08-04 Thread alex bodnaru
On 08/03/2011 07:42 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
 On 08/02/2011 10:17 PM, alex bodnaru wrote:
 On 08/03/2011 05:00 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
 On 08/02/2011 09:52 PM, alex bodnaru wrote:
 On 08/03/2011 02:38 AM, alex bodnaru wrote:
 hello friends,

 i wish to use the fontdescriptor of a control, but i'm receiving an
 empty structure:
 (com.sun.star.awt.FontDescriptor){ Name = (string), Height =
 (short)0x0, Width = (short)0x0, StyleName = (string), Family =
 (short)0x0, CharSet = (short)0x0, Pitch = (short)0x0, CharacterWidth =
 (float)0, Weight = (float)0, Slant =
 (com.sun.star.awt.FontSlant)DONTKNOW, Underline = (short)0x4,
 Strikeout = (short)0x3, Orientation = (float)0, Kerning =
 (boolean)false, WordLineMode = (boolean)false, Type = (short)0x0 }

 should i set this manualy, and in that case, how should i get the system
 font?

 could anybody help please?

 alex

 Do you want to read it or set it?

 Can you provide a code snippet?

 my window is a dialog box. how could i get to it's component that implements
 xfont?

 I have never tried it... The real question, however, is. Do the font
 descriptors available from a container window provide the interface that you
 desire? I assume that the font descriptor is not control or window dependent.
 If you are able to determine the font that will be used by the control, is it
 possible to then find the font descriptor. I have never pursued this (and I do
 not have time now because I must be somewhere in a matter of minutes).

thanks andrew,

i've tried your suggestion on the forum, and could enumerate the font
descriptors of the current doc.

but i'm interested in dialog controls.
few of them feature labels. they have the FontDescriptor and few other relevant
fields and methods (obviously an interface they implement).
and they obviously really use some font to render these labels.

as i said, my problem was that the FontDescriptor shows empty info.
what i can assume is, since i don't specifically set the font, the system font
is being chosen. but in this case, the descriptor of the system font should be
stored there, shouldn't it?
however i think this is a bug, i'd like to go around it, by setting myself the
system font descriptor in the FontDescriptor field of the control or any other 
way.

please advice on how could i obtain the system font.
and' on how could i set the font of a dialog/control.

thanks in advance,
alex

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Activex control in LibreOffice 3.4.2?

2011-08-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
There is an extension or add-on for FireFox but i doubt there is an ActiveX for 
Internet Explorer.  ActiveX is fairly often used to infect or compromise 
systems 
so it's good to avoid it.  

Regards from
Tom :)





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To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 8:53:17
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Activex control in LibreOffice 3.4.2?

My install package does not seem to have the ActiveX control for viewing
documents in Internet Explorer.  The help file, however, includes directions
on how to install the control (as an option in the install process).  What
am I missing?  Thanks for your assistance.

dgbutterworth

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[libreoffice-users] Develops, bring the classic icons back, pls

2011-08-04 Thread OBUTEX/Hladůvka

Classic icons disapeared in LO 3.4.0 and 3.4.2
After several years of using them I really
do not want to change and learn a different look of icons
- it slows my productivity :)
Bring back classic icons into distribution, please.

I copied images_classic.zip from an older version
into C:\Program Files\LibreOffice 3.4\Basis\share\config
but why to change what users used to when it's not necessary?

Regards,
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Re: [libreoffice-users] how to select extension dictionary for spellchecking

2011-08-04 Thread Ron Van den Branden

Hi Cor,

Thank you very much for your help.

On Tuesday 2 August 2011 21:00:25, Cor Nouws wrote:
I tested with LibreOffice 3.4.2 and indeed see no special Eng OED 
language or such that I can choose.

Note: this version already has an English dictionary installed.




If my assumption is correct, it could be solved by removing the 
pre-installed en-GB dictionary.

In my situation that could be done by removing the folder dict-en
from /home/cono/LibO342rc2/libreoffice3.4/share/extensions and restart.

But maybe it also works if you remove one file from the folder dict-en ?



Well, I was hoping that a perhaps a new locale could be defined 
somewhere (maybe in some XML configuration file), but I don't have the 
time to search this out...


Your suggestion seems to work, however: I just replaced the en_GB.aff 
and en_GB.dic files in the dict-en folder with their en_GB-oed.aff and 
en_GB-oed.dic counterparts and this seems to work. Quick and dirty. 
Many thanks!



Kind regards,

Ron

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Re: [libreoffice-users] how to select extension dictionary for spellchecking

2011-08-04 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Ron,

Ron Van den Branden wrote (04-08-11 11:52)


Well, I was hoping that a perhaps a new locale could be defined
somewhere (maybe in some XML configuration file), but I don't have the
time to search this out...


Maybe in the dictionaries.xcu ?


Your suggestion seems to work, however: I just replaced the en_GB.aff
and en_GB.dic files in the dict-en folder with their en_GB-oed.aff and
en_GB-oed.dic counterparts and this seems to work. Quick and dirty. Many
thanks!


Sometimes QN is helpful :-)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] how to select extension dictionary for spellchecking

2011-08-04 Thread Ron Van den Branden

Hi Cor,

On Thursday 4 August 2011 12:10:59, Cor Nouws wrote:

Ron Van den Branden wrote (04-08-11 11:52)


Well, I was hoping that a perhaps a new locale could be defined



Maybe in the dictionaries.xcu ?



Actually, I tried this by adding a node for HunSpellDic_en_GB-oed:

node oor:name=HunSpellDic_en-OED oor:op=fuse
  prop oor:name=Locations oor:type=oor:string-list
value%origin%/en_GB-oed.aff %origin%/en_GB-oed.dic/value
  /prop
  prop oor:name=Format oor:type=xs:string
valueDICT_SPELL/value
  /prop
  prop oor:name=Locales oor:type=oor:string-list
valueen-GB-OED/value
  /prop
/node

...but this had no effect: no en-GB-OED language option appears in the 
language bar. It seems like the values for the Locales property are 
references to definitions elsewhere, though I don't know where.



Sometimes QN is helpful :-)



Anyway, renaming files is probably easier than changing different 
configuration files after each libreoffice update.


Kind regards,

Ron

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Permanent state of recovery with non-existent document

2011-08-04 Thread Sigrid Carrera
Hi, 

On Thu, 4 Aug 2011 00:18:16 -0700
MR ZenWiz mrzen...@gmail.com wrote:

 Once, a long time ago, I tried to open a .pps file with LO, and it
 crashed LO - every single time.  I deleted the document and yet every
 time I start LO, it tries to recover this non-existent document.
 
 I think this started back in release 3.2 or 3.3, and I'm now running
 3.4.0 (about to upgrade to 3.4.2).
 
 How do I stop this from happening?

You have a few options: 

1) You can press cancel the next time you start LibreOffice. This should end 
the endless recovery process. 

2) You could check in the directory where the offending file was, if you see 
there a (hidden - so you might want to activate the show hidden files option) 
file with a similar name that ends in *.lock
Delete this file and the recovery process should not be started the next time. 

3) I think, that there is a third option, that you can start LibO from the 
commandline with the -norestore option, but I'm not 100 % sure about this.


Sigrid

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Re: [libreoffice-users] looking for help on Base

2011-08-04 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Roberto,

Roberto Scotti schrieb:

the site  http://www.libreoffice.org/features/base/   states
... provides native-support drivers for some of the most-widely
employed multi-user database engines: MySQL, Adabas D, MS Access...

When I open Base if I choose to connect to an existing database the
list of available drivers doesn't include MS Access (or JET), it
includes only:
JDBC
JDBC Oracle
Adabas D
Foglio elettronico
dBASE
Testo
MySQL
ODBC


You can try to use ODBC, 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Connecting_to_Microsoft_Access. 
But you will get mostly read access and you cannot use reports or forms 
from Access.


Why do you need the connection?

Kind regards
Regina

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Develops, bring the classic icons back, pls

2011-08-04 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Jiri,
OBUTEX/Hladůvka schrieb:

Classic icons disapeared in LO 3.4.0 and 3.4.2
After several years of using them I really
do not want to change and learn a different look of icons
- it slows my productivity :)
Bring back classic icons into distribution, please.


Goto Tools  Options  LibreOffice  View. In section 'Icon style and 
size' choose 'Galaxy (default)' in the drop-down-list. No need to copy 
older image files.


Kind regards
Regina



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Develops, bring the classic icons back, pls

2011-08-04 Thread OBUTEX/Hladůvka



Dne 4.8.2011 13:35, Regina Henschel napsal(a):

Hi Jiri,
OBUTEX/Hladůvka schrieb:

Classic icons disapeared in LO 3.4.0 and 3.4.2
After several years of using them I really
do not want to change and learn a different look of icons
- it slows my productivity :)
Bring back classic icons into distribution, please.


Goto Tools  Options  LibreOffice  View. In section 'Icon style and
size' choose 'Galaxy (default)' in the drop-down-list. No need to copy
older image files.

Kind regards
Regina






The option Classic style is there missing and the default Galaxy
I don't like.
After I copied the mentioned file I can find the classic style among 
other options; the icons are OK but the three icons =f(x) , cancel 
and OK are only placeholders.


Best regards,
Jiri


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: (help macro base)Open form with a button form another form with filter

2011-08-04 Thread rogerio dandrea
well now

with 3.4.2
ubuntu11.04 64bits
and use hsql

 now I have error mensage in filter Why?

2011/7/29 rogerio dandrea rolemo...@gmail.com

 Alex ,
  thank you.
 I will return to the problem when version 3.4.2 is launched (in july)




 2011/7/28 Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com

 Le 28/07/11 22:11, rogerio dandrea a écrit :

 Hi Rogerio,

 
  Sorry if this is a silly question but, how do I switch the focus from
 one
  form to another?
 

 I actually looked this up on the OpenOffice.org forum, but I can't find
 the link to the post anymore. There might also be a bug in LibreOffice
 that prevents the form from reloading. I seem to recall having seen
 something similar somewhere, because the filter.appply = true and
 form.reload used to work with OpenOffice.org.


 Alex





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Re: [libreoffice-users] how to select extension dictionary for spellchecking

2011-08-04 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 08/04/2011 06:24 AM, Ron Van den Branden wrote:

Hi Cor,

On Thursday 4 August 2011 12:10:59, Cor Nouws wrote:

Ron Van den Branden wrote (04-08-11 11:52)


Well, I was hoping that a perhaps a new locale could be defined



Maybe in the dictionaries.xcu ?



Actually, I tried this by adding a node for HunSpellDic_en_GB-oed:

node oor:name=HunSpellDic_en-OED oor:op=fuse
prop oor:name=Locations oor:type=oor:string-list
value%origin%/en_GB-oed.aff %origin%/en_GB-oed.dic/value
/prop
prop oor:name=Format oor:type=xs:string
valueDICT_SPELL/value
/prop
prop oor:name=Locales oor:type=oor:string-list
valueen-GB-OED/value
/prop
/node

...but this had no effect: no en-GB-OED language option appears in the 
language bar. It seems like the values for the Locales property are 
references to definitions elsewhere, though I don't know where.



Sometimes QN is helpful :-)



Anyway, renaming files is probably easier than changing different 
configuration files after each libreoffice update.


Kind regards,

Ron

Could someone tell me what it the difference between the standard en_GB 
and the OED [Oxford English] version?



The .aff and .dic files for the OED version are from 2005.  I cannot 
find the en_GB outside the install files so I do not know what its dates 
are [in the .deb install files, the .aff and .dic dates use the install 
file date instead of the creation dates].


In your Extension Manager, Which English dictionaries are listed.  In 
the .deb install files for en_GB language pack, there are several 
version of English dictionaries to be installed; GB, US, AU, ZA.  Could 
one of these pass the problem spellings?  Could you deactivate or remove 
the ones you do not want to use?


Also, since the .dic files are really just a list of correct spellings, 
could the flagged words be missing?  I found a dictionary word list of 
over 200,000 words and it did not include dictionary in that list.  
Words can be missed.


Maybe you could remove the other dictionaries from the folder where it 
is stored.   My English dictionary files [in Ubuntu] are located at 
/etc/libreoffice3.4/share/extensions/dict-en.  Or you could look into 
the .dic word list file and see if the incorrect spelling is listed 
there.  If so, you could always remove that word.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] How can be a property update from python?

2011-08-04 Thread Alberto
On 3 August 2011 23:42, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote:
 On 08/03/2011 12:36 PM, Alberto wrote:

 Hi everybody,

 I want to set a custom property (like AuthorLastName) in a document
 before saving it as PDF.

 Never done it. poke around a little bit

  Dim oDocInfo
  Dim oUDP
  oDocInfo = ThisComponent.getDocumentInfo()
  oUDP = oDocInfo.DocumentProperties.UserDefinedProperties
  If NOT oUDP.getPropertySetInfo().hasPropertyByName(AuthorLastName) Then
    oUDP.addProperty(AuthorLastName, _
      com.sun.star.beans.PropertyAttribute.MAYBEVOID + _
      com.sun.star.beans.PropertyAttribute.REMOVEABLE + _
      com.sun.star.beans.PropertyAttribute.MAYBEDEFAULT, _
      Default Last Name)
  End If

 OK, that seems to work.

It worked!
I just had to convert it to the python UNO API.
Thanks a lot!



 This in python (I want to generate the document as part of a larger
 script).

 I managed to update the fields using:
 dispatcher.executeDispatch(frame, .uno:UpdateAll, , 0, ())

 I cannot find hot to change a property, this:
 dispatcher.executeDispatch(frame, .uno:SetDocumentProperties, , 0,
 properties)
 Opens the property view, which is not what I want.

 Where can I find some documentation about this?
 Many thanks,
 Alberto


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Re: [libreoffice-users] looking for help on Base

2011-08-04 Thread Don C. Myers

Hi Tom,

I've been a Base user for 7 or 8 years. As soon as Base came out I 
switched to it. I had first used a DOS based database, then Access, then 
Paradox, and then Base. For my needs, Base works very well. I used the 
guide from OpenOffice, Getting Started With Base to get things setup The 
present version can be found here, as well as other helps: 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Database
There are several small bugs in Base that are more of an annoyance than 
anything else. It is super fast (now that the Linux Java workaround has 
been found), and it is much easier to share the data between my 
computers than it was with Paradox. While they might not have developers 
working on it, there isn't anything I need to have changed. The mail 
merge with writer works perfectly. I've never lost any data. So even if 
there are not any developers working on it, I feel it is a worthy 
program/application. Anytime I've had an issue of needing to know how to 
do something, I've always been able to find an answer with on-line searches.


On 08/04/2011 04:26 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
It's probably better to stick with MS Access tbh.  Base is not being actively
developed and there are no plans to recruit devs for it.  Hopefully some devs
might stumble into the project at some point in the future and start working on
the bugs.
Regards from
Tom :)





From: Roberto Scottiroberto.sco...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 9:19:33
Subject: [libreoffice-users] looking for help on Base

the site  http://www.libreoffice.org/features/base/   states
... provides native-support drivers for some of the most-widely
employed multi-user database engines: MySQL, Adabas D, MS Access...

When I open Base if I choose to connect to an existing database the
list of available drivers doesn't include MS Access (or JET), it
includes only:
JDBC
JDBC Oracle
Adabas D
Foglio elettronico
dBASE
Testo
MySQL
ODBC

How do you activate the MS Access native-support driver?
Is a SQLite native-support driver available?
Many thanks, Roberto Scotti




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Re: [libreoffice-users] looking for help on Base

2011-08-04 Thread Roberto Scotti
Yes, it may be. I am working on Ububntu based systems.
Is it possible to install MS-Access and/or SQLite native-drivers in
Linux?
Many thanks, Roberto Scotti

PS - I added your address in CC to be shure you would get the message,
if thi causes doubling your messages please let me know.

Il giorno gio, 04/08/2011 alle 10.26 +0200, Cor Nouws ha scritto:
 Hi Roberto,
 
 Roberto Scotti wrote (04-08-11 10:19)
 
  When I open Base if I choose to connect to an existing database the
  list of available drivers doesn't include MS Access (or JET), it
  includes only:
  ...
 
 That connection is Windows only.
 Does this explain what you see on your computer?
 
 Regards,
 
 
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[libreoffice-users] Removal of unwanted dictionaries

2011-08-04 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
Why oh WHY is it SO DIFFICULT in LO to remove unwanted dictionaries and 
WHY OH WHY are they all installed by default in the first place? Every 
time I upgrade, the upgrade re-installs all the unwanted dictionaries 
that it took me a long time to remove in the old version
Come on LO, either make it very easy to remove them or give us the 
option to not install them during the install process.

Can't be THAT hard

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Re: [libreoffice-users] looking for help on Base

2011-08-04 Thread Don C. Myers

Hi Roberto,

Access will not run natively in Linux. I run Ubuntu 11.04 presently. I 
was a windows user when I switched to Base. One reason for switching was 
I knew someday I wanted to migrate to Linux. It was very easy since 
OpenOffice worked in both platforms. I run Quicken and Dreamweaver 
through Wine on Ubuntu. You may need to move up to Crossover Office, but 
it would be likely some version of Access would work. I have not 
researched this though. In general, some versions of Microsoft Office do 
work with Crossover Office.


Don

On 08/04/2011 10:04 AM, Roberto Scotti wrote:

Yes, it may be. I am working on Ububntu based systems.
Is it possible to install MS-Access and/or SQLite native-drivers in
Linux?
Many thanks, Roberto Scotti

PS - I added your address in CC to be shure you would get the message,
if thi causes doubling your messages please let me know.

Il giorno gio, 04/08/2011 alle 10.26 +0200, Cor Nouws ha scritto:

Hi Roberto,

Roberto Scotti wrote (04-08-11 10:19)


When I open Base if I choose to connect to an existing database the
list of available drivers doesn't include MS Access (or JET), it
includes only:
...

That connection is Windows only.
Does this explain what you see on your computer?

Regards,


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Home Phone: 814-422-8111 Cell Phone: 814-571-9518
Visit the Farm and Rural Property Division Web Site at 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: how to select extension dictionary for spellchecking

2011-08-04 Thread ron.vandenbranden
Hi,

Thanks for your thoughts.

On Thursday 4 August 2011 15:12:21, krackedpress [via Document 
Foundation Mail Archive] wrote:
 Could someone tell me what it the difference between the standard en_GB
 and the OED [Oxford English] version?
 

Maybe I should clarify my problem: I regularly have to edit articles 
for publication in a journal that conforms to Oxford Spelling 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_spelling), which differs on some 
points from regular BE spelling, e.g.: only forms in -ize are allowed. 
In order to facilitate spell checking, I installed the OED extension 
from http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/1890. Though the 
extension is successfully installed (and listed by the Extension 
Manager), there's apparently no way to select this dictionary for 
spellchecking with the LibreOffice (3.4.2) interface, so I have 
resorted to manually overwriting an installed dictionary with the OED 
version.

So, it's really a matter of being able to che
ck the spelling with a 
specific English locale, rather than facing a flawed en_GB dictionary.

Kind regards,

Ron


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Re: [libreoffice-users] looking for help on Base

2011-08-04 Thread Roberto Scotti
Hello Don.
I have already succeded in runnin Access in some MS-widows emulation.
I can also wiew and (to some extent) export info from MDB files trough
GNOME MDB Viewer is a grapical interface to MDB Tools. It lets you view
and export data and schema from MDB files produced by MS Access
97/2000/XP/2003.

What I need now is what is claimed on the LibreOffice-Base
http://www.libreoffice.org/features/base/   which states that it
... provides native-support drivers for some of the most-widely
employed multi-user database engines: MySQL, Adabas D, MS Access...

Many thanks, rs
Nuoro Forestry School
Università di Sassari
http://nuoro-forestry-school.blogspot.com/ 

Il giorno gio, 04/08/2011 alle 10.14 -0400, Don C. Myers ha scritto:
 Hi Roberto,
 
 Access will not run natively in Linux. I run Ubuntu 11.04 presently. I 
 was a windows user when I switched to Base. One reason for switching was 
 I knew someday I wanted to migrate to Linux. It was very easy since 
 OpenOffice worked in both platforms. I run Quicken and Dreamweaver 
 through Wine on Ubuntu. You may need to move up to Crossover Office, but 
 it would be likely some version of Access would work. I have not 
 researched this though. In general, some versions of Microsoft Office do 
 work with Crossover Office.
 
 Don
 
 On 08/04/2011 10:04 AM, Roberto Scotti wrote:
  Yes, it may be. I am working on Ububntu based systems.
  Is it possible to install MS-Access and/or SQLite native-drivers in
  Linux?
  Many thanks, Roberto Scotti
 
  PS - I added your address in CC to be shure you would get the message,
  if thi causes doubling your messages please let me know.
 
  Il giorno gio, 04/08/2011 alle 10.26 +0200, Cor Nouws ha scritto:
  Hi Roberto,
 
  Roberto Scotti wrote (04-08-11 10:19)
 
  When I open Base if I choose to connect to an existing database the
  list of available drivers doesn't include MS Access (or JET), it
  includes only:
  ...
  That connection is Windows only.
  Does this explain what you see on your computer?
 
  Regards,
 
 
  -- 
 - Cor
 - http://nl.libreoffice.org
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 
 *~~*
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 e-PRO Certified by the National Association of Realtors
 Manager, Farm and Rural Property Division
 *Coldwell Banker University Realty
 *126 East Foster Avenue, State College, PA 16801
 Office Phone: 814-237-6543 Fax: 814-237-6502
 Home Phone: 814-422-8111 Cell Phone: 814-571-9518
 Visit the Farm and Rural Property Division Web Site at 
 _www.cbur-ruralproperty.com http://www.cbur-ruralproperty.com/
 _View Don's Farm Web Site at www.myersfarm.com http://www.myersfarm.com/
 *~~*
 
 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] looking for help on Base

2011-08-04 Thread Simon Cropper (The foss Workflow Guides)

Hi Guys,

Another option if you are migrating from windows is to establish a 
VirtualBox that runs Windows and install Office on this. You can also do 
this on VMWare, although I find VirtualBox a lot faster.


The Windows Platform on the VM have samba shares mapped as network 
drives and they are blissfully unaware that the data being accessed are 
on my Ubuntu filesystem. Data can be readily manipulated in a Microsoft 
Windows package and Linux-based package at practically the same time.


VMWare also provides tools to bundle your windows box into virtual 
machine, although I found this carried over too much 'baggage'. I just 
created an empty VM using VirtualBox and reinstalled Windows and Office.


On 05/08/11 00:14, Don C. Myers wrote:

Hi Roberto,

Access will not run natively in Linux. I run Ubuntu 11.04 presently. I
was a windows user when I switched to Base. One reason for switching was
I knew someday I wanted to migrate to Linux. It was very easy since
OpenOffice worked in both platforms. I run Quicken and Dreamweaver
through Wine on Ubuntu. You may need to move up to Crossover Office, but
it would be likely some version of Access would work. I have not
researched this though. In general, some versions of Microsoft Office do
work with Crossover Office.

Don

On 08/04/2011 10:04 AM, Roberto Scotti wrote:

Yes, it may be. I am working on Ububntu based systems.
Is it possible to install MS-Access and/or SQLite native-drivers in
Linux?
Many thanks, Roberto Scotti

PS - I added your address in CC to be shure you would get the message,
if thi causes doubling your messages please let me know.

Il giorno gio, 04/08/2011 alle 10.26 +0200, Cor Nouws ha scritto:

Hi Roberto,

Roberto Scotti wrote (04-08-11 10:19)


When I open Base if I choose to connect to an existing database the
list of available drivers doesn't include MS Access (or JET), it
includes only:
...

That connection is Windows only.
Does this explain what you see on your computer?

Regards,


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[libreoffice-users] Removal of unwanted dictionaries

2011-08-04 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
Apologies if this gets sent twice - the first sending doesn't seem to 
have reached the list
Why oh WHY is it SO DIFFICULT in LO to remove unwanted dictionaries and 
WHY OH WHY are they all installed by default in the first place? Every 
time I upgrade, the upgrade re-installs all the unwanted dictionaries 
that it took me a long time to remove in the old version
Come on LO, either make it very easy to remove them or give us the 
option to not install them during the install process.

Can't be THAT hard

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Removal of unwanted dictionaries

2011-08-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-08-04 11:15 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Apologies if this gets sent twice - the first sending doesn't seem to
 have reached the list
 Why oh WHY is it SO DIFFICULT in LO to remove unwanted dictionaries and
 WHY OH WHY are they all installed by default in the first place? Every
 time I upgrade, the upgrade re-installs all the unwanted dictionaries
 that it took me a long time to remove in the old version
 Come on LO, either make it very easy to remove them or give us the
 option to not install them during the install process.
 Can't be THAT hard

Unselect them in the installer before installing...

You have to choose 'Custom' install to do this...

I also always enable the Legacy filters - I too don't understand why all
dictionaries are selected by default, or why the legacy filters are NOT
selected by default.

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[libreoffice-users] .uno:GoDown does not work correctly in 3.4.2!!

2011-08-04 Thread Silva Paulo
This code

    'Select area of insertion
    args1(0).Name = By
    args1(0).Value = 9
    args1(1).Name = Sel
    args1(1).Value = true
    dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, .uno:GoDown, , 0, args1())


selects only 2 lines instead of 10!!!

Thanks for any help/comment.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Activex control in LibreOffice 3.4.2?

2011-08-04 Thread NoOp
On 08/04/2011 12:53 AM, dgbutterworth wrote:
 My install package does not seem to have the ActiveX control for viewing
 documents in Internet Explorer.  The help file, however, includes directions
 on how to install the control (as an option in the install process).  What
 am I missing?  Thanks for your assistance.
...

For 3.3:
http://help.libreoffice.org/3.3/Common/ActiveX_Control_to_Display_Documents_in_Internet_Explorer

Disclaimer: I've not tried this (I primarily use linux), and don't know
if it exists in 3.4.2. I'll check on a Win machine later today.





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[libreoffice-users] Re: looking for help on Base

2011-08-04 Thread NoOp
On 08/04/2011 01:19 AM, Roberto Scotti wrote:
 the site  http://www.libreoffice.org/features/base/   states
 ... provides native-support drivers for some of the most-widely
 employed multi-user database engines: MySQL, Adabas D, MS Access...
 
 When I open Base if I choose to connect to an existing database the
 list of available drivers doesn't include MS Access (or JET), it
 includes only:
 JDBC
 JDBC Oracle
 Adabas D
 Foglio elettronico
 dBASE
 Testo
 MySQL
 ODBC
 
 How do you activate the MS Access native-support driver?
 Is a SQLite native-support driver available?
 Many thanks, Roberto Scotti
 
 

Maybe this will help:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/i386/database/libreoffice-base
quote
You can extend the functionality of LibreOffice Base by installing these
packages:

 * unixodbc: ODBC database support
 * libmyodbc | odbc-postgresql | libsqliteodbc | tdsodbc | mdbtools: ODBC
   drivers for:
   - MySQL
   - PostgreSQL
   - SQLite
   - MS SQL / Sybase SQL
   - *.mdb (JET / MS Access)
 * libmysql-java | libpg-java | libjtds-java: JDBC Drivers
   for:
   - MySQL
   - PostgreSQL
   - MS SQL Server and Sybase

Check to see if you have those installed.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Removal of unwanted dictionaries

2011-08-04 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 04/08/2011 16:20, Tanstaafl wrote:

On 2011-08-04 11:15 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parkergbpli...@gmail.com  wrote:

Apologies if this gets sent twice - the first sending doesn't seem to
have reached the list
Why oh WHY is it SO DIFFICULT in LO to remove unwanted dictionaries and
WHY OH WHY are they all installed by default in the first place? Every
time I upgrade, the upgrade re-installs all the unwanted dictionaries
that it took me a long time to remove in the old version
Come on LO, either make it very easy to remove them or give us the
option to not install them during the install process.
Can't be THAT hard

Unselect them in the installer before installing...

You have to choose 'Custom' install to do this...

I also always enable the Legacy filters - I too don't understand why all
dictionaries are selected by default, or why the legacy filters are NOT
selected by default.



Thanks for that - but again, it's the WRONG WAY ROUND! Instead of 
enabling the ones you DO want, you have to DISABLE all the ones you 
DON'T want!


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Re: [libreoffice-users] looking for help on Base

2011-08-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It is not a good time to migrate to Base.  Hopefully there are other front-ends 
that could be used instead?  Base has no devs working on it so bug-reports are 
not getting fixed and there are no plans to attract devs to work on Base 
anytime 
soon.  

Regards from
Tom :)





From: Roberto Scotti roberto.sco...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 15:59:29
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] looking for help on Base

Hello Don.
I have already succeded in runnin Access in some MS-widows emulation.
I can also wiew and (to some extent) export info from MDB files trough
GNOME MDB Viewer is a grapical interface to MDB Tools. It lets you view
and export data and schema from MDB files produced by MS Access
97/2000/XP/2003.

What I need now is what is claimed on the LibreOffice-Base
http://www.libreoffice.org/features/base/   which states that it
... provides native-support drivers for some of the most-widely
employed multi-user database engines: MySQL, Adabas D, MS Access...

Many thanks, rs
Nuoro Forestry School
Università di Sassari
http://nuoro-forestry-school.blogspot.com/ 

Il giorno gio, 04/08/2011 alle 10.14 -0400, Don C. Myers ha scritto:
 Hi Roberto,
 
 Access will not run natively in Linux. I run Ubuntu 11.04 presently. I 
 was a windows user when I switched to Base. One reason for switching was 
 I knew someday I wanted to migrate to Linux. It was very easy since 
 OpenOffice worked in both platforms. I run Quicken and Dreamweaver 
 through Wine on Ubuntu. You may need to move up to Crossover Office, but 
 it would be likely some version of Access would work. I have not 
 researched this though. In general, some versions of Microsoft Office do 
 work with Crossover Office.
 
 Don
 
 On 08/04/2011 10:04 AM, Roberto Scotti wrote:
  Yes, it may be. I am working on Ububntu based systems.
  Is it possible to install MS-Access and/or SQLite native-drivers in
  Linux?
  Many thanks, Roberto Scotti
 
  PS - I added your address in CC to be shure you would get the message,
  if thi causes doubling your messages please let me know.
 
  Il giorno gio, 04/08/2011 alle 10.26 +0200, Cor Nouws ha scritto:
  Hi Roberto,
 
  Roberto Scotti wrote (04-08-11 10:19)
 
  When I open Base if I choose to connect to an existing database the
  list of available drivers doesn't include MS Access (or JET), it
  includes only:
  ...
  That connection is Windows only.
  Does this explain what you see on your computer?
 
  Regards,
 
 
  -- 
 - Cor
 - http://nl.libreoffice.org
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 
 *~~*
 Don C. Myers
 e-PRO Certified by the National Association of Realtors
 Manager, Farm and Rural Property Division
 *Coldwell Banker University Realty
 *126 East Foster Avenue, State College, PA 16801
 Office Phone: 814-237-6543 Fax: 814-237-6502
 Home Phone: 814-422-8111 Cell Phone: 814-571-9518
 Visit the Farm and Rural Property Division Web Site at 
 _www.cbur-ruralproperty.com http://www.cbur-ruralproperty.com/
 _View Don's Farm Web Site at www.myersfarm.com http://www.myersfarm.com/
 *~~*
 
 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] looking for help on Base

2011-08-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It's good to hear some success with Base.  I think it might help to have a lot 
of trivial issues amongst the bug-reports to help potential new devs learn 
their 
way into the code.  The key word there is might.  


The documentation team would appreciate any help with consolidating various 
guides they have found and perhaps others into something like the state of the 
guides for the other apps but it's a major challenge because Base is 
unpredictably quirky between one release and another.  

Regards from
Tom :)





From: Don C. Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 14:34:44
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] looking for help on Base

Hi Tom,

I've been a Base user for 7 or 8 years. As soon as Base came out I switched to 
it. I had first used a DOS based database, then Access, then Paradox, and then 
Base. For my needs, Base works very well. I used the guide from OpenOffice, 
Getting Started With Base to get things setup The present version can be found 
here, as well as other helps: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Database
There are several small bugs in Base that are more of an annoyance than 
anything 
else. It is super fast (now that the Linux Java workaround has been found), and 
it is much easier to share the data between my computers than it was with 
Paradox. While they might not have developers working on it, there isn't 
anything I need to have changed. The mail merge with writer works perfectly. 
I've never lost any data. So even if there are not any developers working on 
it, 
I feel it is a worthy program/application. Anytime I've had an issue of needing 
to know how to do something, I've always been able to find an answer with 
on-line searches.

On 08/04/2011 04:26 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 It's probably better to stick with MS Access tbh.  Base is not being actively
 developed and there are no plans to recruit devs for it.  Hopefully some devs
 might stumble into the project at some point in the future and start working 
on
 the bugs.
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Roberto Scottiroberto.sco...@gmail.com
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 9:19:33
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] looking for help on Base
 
 the site  http://www.libreoffice.org/features/base/   states
 ... provides native-support drivers for some of the most-widely
 employed multi-user database engines: MySQL, Adabas D, MS Access...
 
 When I open Base if I choose to connect to an existing database the
 list of available drivers doesn't include MS Access (or JET), it
 includes only:
 JDBC
 JDBC Oracle
 Adabas D
 Foglio elettronico
 dBASE
 Testo
 MySQL
 ODBC
 
 How do you activate the MS Access native-support driver?
 Is a SQLite native-support driver available?
 Many thanks, Roberto Scotti
 
 

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[libreoffice-users] Yum Repository for install and upgrades

2011-08-04 Thread Walt
Hi

Is there an official libreoffice Yum Repository for the major linux distros
(in my linux rpm with rhel desktop integration)?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Removal of unwanted dictionaries

2011-08-04 Thread Nuno J. Silva
On 2011-08-04, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

 On 04/08/2011 16:20, Tanstaafl wrote:
 On 2011-08-04 11:15 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parkergbpli...@gmail.com  wrote:
 Apologies if this gets sent twice - the first sending doesn't seem to
 have reached the list
 Why oh WHY is it SO DIFFICULT in LO to remove unwanted dictionaries and
 WHY OH WHY are they all installed by default in the first place? Every
 time I upgrade, the upgrade re-installs all the unwanted dictionaries
 that it took me a long time to remove in the old version
 Come on LO, either make it very easy to remove them or give us the
 option to not install them during the install process.
 Can't be THAT hard
 Unselect them in the installer before installing...

 You have to choose 'Custom' install to do this...

 I also always enable the Legacy filters - I too don't understand why all
 dictionaries are selected by default, or why the legacy filters are NOT
 selected by default.


 Thanks for that - but again, it's the WRONG WAY ROUND! Instead of
 enabling the ones you DO want, you have to DISABLE all the ones you
 DON'T want!

Can't you just set the Dictionaries item to Not available (which
will set all subitems to Not available) and then cherry-pick the
dictionaries you want?

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[libreoffice-users] Base / Postgresql support

2011-08-04 Thread Walt
Hi

Anyone know how to get native pgsql support on base - it seems missing from
the connect to an exsitng database options. I've checked under both Linux
and Windows.

Also is it possble to mix and match datasources on one base database (some
local tables + some odbc tables etc)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Develops, bring the classic icons back, pls

2011-08-04 Thread Manfred J. Krause
Hi,

2011/8/4 OBUTEX/Hladůvka wrote:
 Classic icons disapeared in LO 3.4.0 and 3.4.2
 After several years of using them I really
 do not want to change and learn a different look of icons
 - it slows my productivity :)
 Bring back classic icons into distribution, please.

 I copied images_classic.zip from an older version
 into C:\Program Files\LibreOffice 3.4\Basis\share\config
 but why to change what users used to when it's not necessary?

Please have a look at
Bug 38175 - Make Classic icon theme available again
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38175

(Improved Classic theme [Images_classic.zip] download link in Comment#27)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] .uno:GoDown does not work correctly in 3.4.2!!

2011-08-04 Thread leif
Hello Silva,
I have no idea ;-(

But i know that this might help:

args1(0).Name = Count
args1(0).Value = 9
args1(1).Name = Select
args1(1).Value = true
dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, .uno:GoDown, , 0, args1())

Another way of doing the same could be this:

Dim oViewCursor As Object
oViewCursor = ThisComponent.CurrentController.getViewCursor()
oViewCursor.GoDown(9, True)

Cheers,
Leif Lodahl



Den 04-08-2011 18:05, Silva Paulo skrev:
 This code

 'Select area of insertion
 args1(0).Name = By
 args1(0).Value = 9
 args1(1).Name = Sel
 args1(1).Value = true
 dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, .uno:GoDown, , 0, args1())


 selects only 2 lines instead of 10!!!

 Thanks for any help/comment.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Removal of unwanted dictionaries

2011-08-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-08-04 2:11 PM, nunojsi...@ist.utl.pt (Nuno J. Silva)
nunojsi...@ist.utl.pt (Nuno J. Silva) wrote:
 On 2011-08-04, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
 On 04/08/2011 16:20, Tanstaafl wrote:
 On 2011-08-04 11:15 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parkergbpli...@gmail.com  wrote:
 Apologies if this gets sent twice - the first sending doesn't seem to
 have reached the list
 Why oh WHY is it SO DIFFICULT in LO to remove unwanted dictionaries and
 WHY OH WHY are they all installed by default in the first place?

 You have to choose 'Custom' install to do this...

 I also always enable the Legacy filters - I too don't understand why all
 dictionaries are selected by default, or why the legacy filters are NOT
 selected by default.

 Thanks for that - but again, it's the WRONG WAY ROUND! Instead of
 enabling the ones you DO want, you have to DISABLE all the ones you
 DON'T want!

 Can't you just set the Dictionaries item to Not available (which
 will set all subitems to Not available) and then cherry-pick the
 dictionaries you want?

That is exactly what I do (wasn't very specific though)...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base 3.4.2 doesn't run on Windows 7

2011-08-04 Thread John Cleland

Hi

I have version 3.4.2 of Base running on windows 7 Home Premium without any 
issues, so is possible to get base to work on windows 7


Have you tried uninstalling and re-installing, that may cure it.

Also I installed 3.4 on top of 3.2, I do not know if this was a factor in 
getting it to work.


Regards

John

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Davies

Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 5:59 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Base 3.4.2 doesn't run on Windows 7

Hi :)
It would be good to post a bug-report about it.  There are no devs working 
on
Base and none likely to start any time soon so you either need to use MS 
Access
or perhaps try Win7 compatibility mode to see if you can run Base as though 
it

was in Xp.  (or stick to Xp for that database of course)
Regards from
Tom :)





From: Juan Antonio juanh...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 3 August, 2011 17:47:52
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Base 3.4.2 doesn't run on Windows 7

Hello. I've installed LibreOffice 3.4.2 in *Windows 7*, and Base doesn't 
open

any odb file. When I try to do, it seems to open but suddenly closes. When I
create a new odb file, it closes too, as soon as after using the database
wizard.

Base 3.4.1 has this problem too. I thought it was a bug that would be fixed
in the new version 3.4.2, but now I don't know. But in Windows XP don't have
that problem.

Thanks.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base 3.4.2 doesn't run on Windows 7

2011-08-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Try getting back to factory defaults by changing the name of the config 
folder 
for LibreOffice.  Look in
Tools - Options - LibreOffice - Path
to find where the folder /user/3 is
Then navigate to that folder and right-click to rename it.  I usually rename 
things to a reverse date name making it /user/2011-08-04 (-mm-dd) today so 
that i can tell when those backups were made and which is the most recent.  


LibreOffice will create a new folder but all your extensions and stuff will be 
safely in the folder you made so you can copy sub-folders back into the new one 
to regain settings, galleries, templates and things.

It's better than a reinstall as it keeps everything you have built-up even tho 
you have hidden it all from LibreOffice.  


Regards from
Tom :)





From: John Cleland j...@john-cleland.co.uk
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 20:18:04
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Base 3.4.2 doesn't run on Windows 7

Hi

I have version 3.4.2 of Base running on windows 7 Home Premium without any 
issues, so is possible to get base to work on windows 7

Have you tried uninstalling and re-installing, that may cure it.

Also I installed 3.4 on top of 3.2, I do not know if this was a factor in 
getting it to work.

Regards

John

-Original Message- From: Tom Davies
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 5:59 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Base 3.4.2 doesn't run on Windows 7

Hi :)
It would be good to post a bug-report about it.  There are no devs working on
Base and none likely to start any time soon so you either need to use MS Access
or perhaps try Win7 compatibility mode to see if you can run Base as though it
was in Xp.  (or stick to Xp for that database of course)
Regards from
Tom :)





From: Juan Antonio juanh...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 3 August, 2011 17:47:52
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Base 3.4.2 doesn't run on Windows 7

Hello. I've installed LibreOffice 3.4.2 in *Windows 7*, and Base doesn't open
any odb file. When I try to do, it seems to open but suddenly closes. When I
create a new odb file, it closes too, as soon as after using the database
wizard.

Base 3.4.1 has this problem too. I thought it was a bug that would be fixed
in the new version 3.4.2, but now I don't know. But in Windows XP don't have
that problem.

Thanks.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery

2011-08-04 Thread Wayne


I left Ubuntu because of its new release. I would recommend LinuxMint.
Wayne

 On 08/02/2011 09:04 PM, Roland Hughes wrote:

Move to OpenSuSE.  Your life will be a lot better.  Ubuntu has lost its
way.

On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 07:00 +0300, David Nelson wrote:


Hi Juan,

On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Juan Carlosjuanzeppe...@hotmail.com  wrote:

I use ubuntu 10.10, which contains openoffice for default, so I had to
de-install it and download the deb packages from libreoffice.org. Also I
tried to download and install it from the PPA (ppa:libreoffice/ppa) and
occurs the same problem. Recently installed the 3.4.2 version and still
occurs the problem.

Are you ready to envision the upgrade to 11.04? I say upgrade in
quotes because my own experience with upgrading left me with a
somewhat broken system due to the roll-out of the Unity GUI as a major
change to Gnome (not an issue for you if you're a KDE or XFCE user). I
ended up totally backing-up and re-installing my system, but then
everything was back to normal.

Then you'd have an Ubuntu-integrated LibO and might have resolved the
problem. If not, you might also post to the Ubuntu user's list, too,
to see if anyone has any ideas.

But I'm not sure what issues might have crept in with the
installing/de-installing of the PPA version and installing 3.4.2 over
the top. By the way, if you install 11.04, you'll get 3.3.2, which is
not the leading edge like 3.4.2 but is perhaps a better bet for you.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to select extension dictionary for spellchecking

2011-08-04 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


So you are saying that the British English use of -ise instead of -ize 
is a new thing that is just a new way of spelling words that have been 
around, a new localized [or is it localised] way?


I use American English which spells colour as color.  But this is the 
first time I have heard of the -ise/-ize issue.  Well they always say 
language involves.  Take English in Britain about 500 years ago.  The 
same words, but different spellings.


So should I dump en_GB in favor en_GB-oed version?
Should I not include en_CA or en_GB[oed] in my dictionary list in the USA?
I know that one .oxt dictionary add-on that includes many different 
English files.

Should people not use that type?

en_GB-oed .dic file has 46,113 words in its word list.  The Wiki page 
shows analyse in en_GB-oed and analyze in en_US.  Well in the oed 
.dic file I cannot find analyse.  Below is the word list where that 
word should be located, but it is not.


ample/PT
amplification/M
anarchy/3Ww1SM
anastigmatic
Andaman/M
aneroid
Anglican/MS


I found the word
analyse in the en_GB .dic file dated 2010-02-15
analyze in the en_CA .dic file dated 2010-02-15
but neither spelling in the en_GB-eod version dated 2005-06-13.
So the eod version has not kept up with what the Wiki page link shows 
for Oxford English.


Of course, you could always edit a word list and keep only the spellings 
that Oxford English excepts.  As I understand, the complete Oxford 
dictionary contains 20 volumes/books to hold all the words and 
definitions.  I have a word list of over 200,000 words, but would you 
want to have a word processor spell checker dictionary with all those 
words, or only the ones you really want to use?  The more words in the 
list, the more chances that your misspelled words are correct spelling 
for a different unwanted word.  There is not good way around it, except 
edit your word list to remove the words that are not spelled correctly 
for your localized version of the language.



On 08/04/2011 10:18 AM, ron.vandenbranden wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for your thoughts.

On Thursday 4 August 2011 15:12:21, krackedpress [via Document
Foundation Mail Archive] wrote:

Could someone tell me what it the difference between the standard en_GB
and the OED [Oxford English] version?


Maybe I should clarify my problem: I regularly have to edit articles
for publication in a journal that conforms to Oxford Spelling
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_spelling), which differs on some
points from regular BE spelling, e.g.: only forms in -ize are allowed.
In order to facilitate spell checking, I installed the OED extension
fromhttp://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/1890. Though the
extension is successfully installed (and listed by the Extension
Manager), there's apparently no way to select this dictionary for
spellchecking with the LibreOffice (3.4.2) interface, so I have
resorted to manually overwriting an installed dictionary with the OED
version.

So, it's really a matter of being able to che
ck the spelling with a
specific English locale, rather than facing a flawed en_GB dictionary.

Kind regards,

Ron


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Removal of unwanted dictionaries

2011-08-04 Thread Dave Barton
 Original Message  
From: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:04:42 -0400

 On 2011-08-04 2:11 PM, nunojsi...@ist.utl.pt (Nuno J. Silva)
 nunojsi...@ist.utl.pt (Nuno J. Silva) wrote:
 On 2011-08-04, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
 On 04/08/2011 16:20, Tanstaafl wrote:
 On 2011-08-04 11:15 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parkergbpli...@gmail.com  wrote:
 Apologies if this gets sent twice - the first sending doesn't seem to
 have reached the list
 Why oh WHY is it SO DIFFICULT in LO to remove unwanted dictionaries and
 WHY OH WHY are they all installed by default in the first place?
 
 You have to choose 'Custom' install to do this...

 I also always enable the Legacy filters - I too don't understand why all
 dictionaries are selected by default, or why the legacy filters are NOT
 selected by default.
 
 Thanks for that - but again, it's the WRONG WAY ROUND! Instead of
 enabling the ones you DO want, you have to DISABLE all the ones you
 DON'T want!
 
 Can't you just set the Dictionaries item to Not available (which
 will set all subitems to Not available) and then cherry-pick the
 dictionaries you want?
 
 That is exactly what I do (wasn't very specific though)...
 

Does this work for you? I have always done this when installing LO on
Win 7-64 and Win XP-32, but still have to go back and remove the
unwanted dictionaries from the extensions sub-directory.

Dave


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Re: [libreoffice-users] .uno:GoDown does not work correctly in 3.4.2!!

2011-08-04 Thread Silva Paulo
- Original Message -
From: leif leiflod...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Cc:
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] .uno:GoDown does not work correctly in 3.4.2!!
 
 Hello Silva,
 I have no idea ;-(
 
 But i know that this might help:
 
 args1(0).Name = Count
 args1(0).Value = 9
 args1(1).Name = Select
 args1(1).Value = true
 dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, .uno:GoDown, , 0, args1())
 
This doesn't work either! Same symptoms. Besides, Select does not select 
anything even when true. Only Sel.
 
 Another way of doing the same could be this:
 
 Dim oViewCursor As Object
 oViewCursor = ThisComponent.CurrentController.getViewCursor()
 oViewCursor.GoDown(9, True)
 
I think this code is for writer. I have this problem on calc.

 
 
 
 Den 04-08-2011 18:05, Silva Paulo skrev:
  This code
 
  'Select area of insertion
  args1(0).Name = By
  args1(0).Value = 9
  args1(1).Name = Sel
  args1(1).Value = true
  dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, .uno:GoDown, , 0, args1())
 
 
  selects only 2 lines instead of 10!!!
 
  Thanks for any help/comment.
 

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[libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery

2011-08-04 Thread Juan Carlos
Well, after read all the possible solutions, finally I decided to install
Ubuntu 11.04 (a clean installation) and reinstall LO. I hope this fix the
problem.

Thanks to all who shared their opinions.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to select extension dictionary for spellchecking

2011-08-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I think 500 years ago there wasn't even an agreed standard way of spelling any 
word.  Shakespeare wrote his own name with many different spellings during his 
life.  I did think that ise had been THE English way for a LOT longer tho! 
lol.  Languages have to evolve and adapt to changing requirements.  

Regards from
Tom :)





From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 20:55:36
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to select extension dictionary for 
spellchecking


So you are saying that the British English use of -ise instead of -ize is a new 
thing that is just a new way of spelling words that have been around, a new 
localized [or is it localised] way?

I use American English which spells colour as color.  But this is the first 
time 
I have heard of the -ise/-ize issue.  Well they always say language involves.  
Take English in Britain about 500 years ago.  The same words, but different 
spellings.

So should I dump en_GB in favor en_GB-oed version?
Should I not include en_CA or en_GB[oed] in my dictionary list in the USA?
I know that one .oxt dictionary add-on that includes many different English 
files.
Should people not use that type?

en_GB-oed .dic file has 46,113 words in its word list.  The Wiki page shows 
analyse in en_GB-oed and analyze in en_US.  Well in the oed .dic file I 
cannot find analyse.  Below is the word list where that word should be 
located, but it is not.

ample/PT
amplification/M
anarchy/3Ww1SM
anastigmatic
Andaman/M
aneroid
Anglican/MS


I found the word
analyse in the en_GB .dic file dated 2010-02-15
analyze in the en_CA .dic file dated 2010-02-15
but neither spelling in the en_GB-eod version dated 2005-06-13.
So the eod version has not kept up with what the Wiki page link shows for 
Oxford English.

Of course, you could always edit a word list and keep only the spellings that 
Oxford English excepts.  As I understand, the complete Oxford dictionary 
contains 20 volumes/books to hold all the words and definitions.  I have a word 
list of over 200,000 words, but would you want to have a word processor spell 
checker dictionary with all those words, or only the ones you really want to 
use?  The more words in the list, the more chances that your misspelled words 
are correct spelling for a different unwanted word.  There is not good way 
around it, except edit your word list to remove the words that are not spelled 
correctly for your localized version of the language.


On 08/04/2011 10:18 AM, ron.vandenbranden wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Thanks for your thoughts.
 
 On Thursday 4 August 2011 15:12:21, krackedpress [via Document
 Foundation Mail Archive] wrote:
 Could someone tell me what it the difference between the standard en_GB
 and the OED [Oxford English] version?
 
 Maybe I should clarify my problem: I regularly have to edit articles
 for publication in a journal that conforms to Oxford Spelling
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_spelling), which differs on some
 points from regular BE spelling, e.g.: only forms in -ize are allowed.
 In order to facilitate spell checking, I installed the OED extension
 fromhttp://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/1890. Though the
 extension is successfully installed (and listed by the Extension
 Manager), there's apparently no way to select this dictionary for
 spellchecking with the LibreOffice (3.4.2) interface, so I have
 resorted to manually overwriting an installed dictionary with the OED
 version.
 
 So, it's really a matter of being able to che
 ck the spelling with a
 specific English locale, rather than facing a flawed en_GB dictionary.
 
 Kind regards,
 
 Ron
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base / Postgresql support

2011-08-04 Thread planas
Walt,

On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 11:05 -0700, Walt wrote: 

 Hi
 
 Anyone know how to get native pgsql support on base - it seems missing from
 the connect to an exsitng database options. I've checked under both Linux
 and Windows.
 
 Also is it possble to mix and match datasources on one base database (some
 local tables + some odbc tables etc)
 
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From my limited use of connecting to other db from Base, if the db or a
very near relative is not listed you must use either JDBC or ODBC. 

I do not know about mixing sources but do not think it is possible, but
I have tried it.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery

2011-08-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It's a lot less hassle to change distros, especially if they use the same DE 
and 
are in the same family.  Mint sounds like a good plan.  Of course the easiest 
thing is to install Mint as a dual/multi-boot so that you can keep going back 
to 
the old Ubuntu if you need to.  

Regards from
Tom :)





From: Wayne infotech...@lavabit.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 20:48:20
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly 
need recovery


I left Ubuntu because of its new release. I would recommend LinuxMint.
Wayne

  On 08/02/2011 09:04 PM, Roland Hughes wrote:
 Move to OpenSuSE.  Your life will be a lot better.  Ubuntu has lost its
 way.

 On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 07:00 +0300, David Nelson wrote:

 Hi Juan,

 On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Juan Carlosjuanzeppe...@hotmail.com  wrote:
 I use ubuntu 10.10, which contains openoffice for default, so I had to
 de-install it and download the deb packages from libreoffice.org. Also I
 tried to download and install it from the PPA (ppa:libreoffice/ppa) and
 occurs the same problem. Recently installed the 3.4.2 version and still
 occurs the problem.
 Are you ready to envision the upgrade to 11.04? I say upgrade in
 quotes because my own experience with upgrading left me with a
 somewhat broken system due to the roll-out of the Unity GUI as a major
 change to Gnome (not an issue for you if you're a KDE or XFCE user). I
 ended up totally backing-up and re-installing my system, but then
 everything was back to normal.

 Then you'd have an Ubuntu-integrated LibO and might have resolved the
 problem. If not, you might also post to the Ubuntu user's list, too,
 to see if anyone has any ideas.

 But I'm not sure what issues might have crept in with the
 installing/de-installing of the PPA version and installing 3.4.2 over
 the top. By the way, if you install 11.04, you'll get 3.3.2, which is
 not the leading edge like 3.4.2 but is perhaps a better bet for you.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Yum Repository for install and upgrades

2011-08-04 Thread planas
Walt

On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 10:51 -0700, Walt wrote: 

 Hi
 
 Is there an official libreoffice Yum Repository for the major linux distros
 (in my linux rpm with rhel desktop integration)?
 
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Many of the major Linux distros are shipping LO in the current release
cycle and have it in their repositories. You could check with your
distro to see if it is in the repository. Otherwise you can download a
generic rpm package from the download page. Ubuntu and many of the
children use the LO 3.3.x series as the default version. I do not what
is going on with RHEL and its children.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery

2011-08-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
A clean install of Ubuntu 11.04 should do the trick.  Going for a dual-boot or 
multi-boot is a lot easier than it sounds.  The standard install process 
usually 
gives you the option in the Partitioning Section.  Possibly the 2nd or 3rd 
standard option out of about 4 options on that page.  The 4th option gets a bit 
technical but you can always click on the Back button if it's too complicated 
and then change to one of the standard 2 or 3 options.  I think you could 
handle 
it tho.
Regards from
Tom :)





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Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 19:48:30
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly 
need 
recovery

Well, after read all the possible solutions, finally I decided to install
Ubuntu 11.04 (a clean installation) and reinstall LO. I hope this fix the
problem.

Thanks to all who shared their opinions.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery

2011-08-04 Thread Roland Hughes
OpenSuSE 11.4 has been very good to me.  Their 64-bit stuff actually
works!

On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 12:48 -0700, Wayne wrote:

 I left Ubuntu because of its new release. I would recommend LinuxMint.
 Wayne
 
   On 08/02/2011 09:04 PM, Roland Hughes wrote:
  Move to OpenSuSE.  Your life will be a lot better.  Ubuntu has lost its
  way.
 
  On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 07:00 +0300, David Nelson wrote:
 
  Hi Juan,
 
  On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Juan Carlosjuanzeppe...@hotmail.com  
  wrote:
  I use ubuntu 10.10, which contains openoffice for default, so I had to
  de-install it and download the deb packages from libreoffice.org. Also I
  tried to download and install it from the PPA (ppa:libreoffice/ppa) and
  occurs the same problem. Recently installed the 3.4.2 version and still
  occurs the problem.
  Are you ready to envision the upgrade to 11.04? I say upgrade in
  quotes because my own experience with upgrading left me with a
  somewhat broken system due to the roll-out of the Unity GUI as a major
  change to Gnome (not an issue for you if you're a KDE or XFCE user). I
  ended up totally backing-up and re-installing my system, but then
  everything was back to normal.
 
  Then you'd have an Ubuntu-integrated LibO and might have resolved the
  problem. If not, you might also post to the Ubuntu user's list, too,
  to see if anyone has any ideas.
 
  But I'm not sure what issues might have crept in with the
  installing/de-installing of the PPA version and installing 3.4.2 over
  the top. By the way, if you install 11.04, you'll get 3.3.2, which is
  not the leading edge like 3.4.2 but is perhaps a better bet for you.
 
  -- 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base / Postgresql support

2011-08-04 Thread Don Parris
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 14:05, Walt ed...@full-circle.co.uk wrote:

 Hi

 Anyone know how to get native pgsql support on base - it seems missing from
 the connect to an exsitng database options. I've checked under both Linux
 and Windows.

 I just blogged about this.  Hopefully, you'll find my info helpful:
http://dcparris.net/2011/07/31/connecting-libreoffice-to-postgresql/



 Also is it possble to mix and match datasources on one base database (some
 local tables + some odbc tables etc)


Wish I could answer this one, but I just don't know.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery

2011-08-04 Thread Roland Hughes
Ubuntu just blows.  It's going to get worse, not better with time.  They
have an overriding design constraint which ensures disaster.  MUST FIT
ON ONE CD.  This leads to forcing shared images on things which SHOULD
NOT use them and a boat load of untested code in each release.  God
forbid you ever try and install the KDE desktop with your default Gnome
desktop.  Less than half of everything will continue to work.  Absolute
zero multi-desktop testing occurs because they bust things up.

With OpenSuSE 11.4 I can switch between KDE and GNOME on a whim and know
it was all tested.

On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 23:13 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi :)
 A clean install of Ubuntu 11.04 should do the trick.  Going for a dual-boot 
 or 
 multi-boot is a lot easier than it sounds.  The standard install process 
 usually 
 gives you the option in the Partitioning Section.  Possibly the 2nd or 3rd 
 standard option out of about 4 options on that page.  The 4th option gets a 
 bit 
 technical but you can always click on the Back button if it's too 
 complicated 
 and then change to one of the standard 2 or 3 options.  I think you could 
 handle 
 it tho.
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
 
 
 
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 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 19:48:30
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly 
 need 
 recovery
 
 Well, after read all the possible solutions, finally I decided to install
 Ubuntu 11.04 (a clean installation) and reinstall LO. I hope this fix the
 problem.
 
 Thanks to all who shared their opinions.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery

2011-08-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)

Err, i kept meaning to search out these guides, particularly the one from 
Ubuntu 
Geek
http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-libreoffice-in-ubuntu-11-0410-1010-04-using-ppa.html

http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-LibreOffice-in-Ubuntu-10-10-and-Ubuntu-10-04-177762.shtml

The Ubuntu Geek one is the one that i used to get the right PPA but then 
instead 
of installing from the command-line i used Synaptic Package Manager.  It's 
advanced search helped me find all the bits of OpenOffice and then uninstall 
them.  It also let me pickchoose what parts of LibreOffice i wanted.


If you want to do a dual-boot to add 11.04 (or Mint) without losing your 10.10 
then these guides might help a little
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot

Regards from
Tom :)




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Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly 
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recovery

Well, after read all the possible solutions, finally I decided to install
Ubuntu 11.04 (a clean installation) and reinstall LO. I hope this fix the
problem.

Thanks to all who shared their opinions.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Something strange : settings in Tools - Options - Impress - Print

2011-08-04 Thread Hirono Moi
I'm sorry that I made mistake.
I put this question in another thread.

I will post new one.

Thaks


(2011/08/03 16:34), Hirono Moi wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am using LibreOffice 3.4.2 on WinXP and I have discovered a strange
 thing : the settings in Tools -  Options -  Impress - Print dialog.
 
 Step1
Create new Impress file and save as FileNameA.odp.
 
 Step2
change the setting in Tools -  Options -  Impress - Print - Page
 Options:
 select Fit to page (from Default)
 and then Click OK
 
 Step3
Edit slide something
and the Save
 
 Step4
Creat new one more Impress file
 
 Step5
Confirm the setting in Tools -  Options -  Impress - Print - Page
 Options:
 stay in Fit to page
 
 Step6
save as FileNameB.odp
 
 Step7
Close both of FileNameA.odp and FileNameB.odp
 
 Step8
Create new Impress file
 
 Step9
Confirm the setting in Tools -  Options -  Impress - Print - Page
 Options:
 stay in Fit to page
 
 Step10
Open FileNameA.odp
 
 Step11
Confirm the setting in Tools -  Options -  Impress - Print - Page
 Options:
!? Default !?
 
 
 Why I get Page Options:Default ??
 
 Do I have missed something?
 Is there anyone else experiencing this?
 Is there a solution?
 Is it a well known problem?
 
 Best Regards,
 
 



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[libreoffice-users] LO corruption

2011-08-04 Thread Bill Gradwohl
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Hash: SHA1

About a week ago, I asked this list for help and got what I needed to
further investigate a situation I'm having with calc.

I've now determined that my problems are due to corruption of the calc
sheet. Further, I believe its calc itself that's doing it.

Case in point. My buttons were shrinking randomly, but in a somewhat
predictable fashion. Random as in I couldn't be certain when it would
happen, but predictable in that when it happened it was done in a
reasonably consistent way.

Using code that Andrew supplied, I dumped the shapes on each involved
sheet expecting 4 items. The first sheet had 1524 shapes of which 1520
had a control=null. The remaining 4 were my real buttons and were
scattered among the debris.

Common sense says I didn't manually create and somehow abandon 1520
shapes. I had absolutely no code that tried to create or manipulate the
buttons, so Sherlock Holmes would deduce that OO / LO did it. I only
used the IDE to create these 4 buttons on the first sheet and then
copied them to 20 other sheets using cut and paste within the IDE.

The remaining sheets all had far lesser amounts of rubbish, but not one
sheet had only the 4 buttons it was intended to have.

I wrote code to remove the dead ends. It worked like a charm. I saved
and reacquired the spreadsheet and then all the buttons were gone on all
21 sheets.

I repeated the process several times all resulting in the same outcome.

I also wrote code to reinflate my shrunken buttons to their required
size. Again, the code worked perfectly and I traversed each sheet to
make certain all was well. After a save and restart of LO, I get a bogus
password error part way through loading the spreadsheet and the whole
thing won't load. The spreadsheet is not password protected, so where
did a password come from?

On a damaged but working spreadsheet (shrunken buttons), if I move a
sheet from one position to another, or attempt to delete a sheet, all is
well during that session, but a save and LO reload fails, again with
some internal bogus password error half way through the loading process.

When LO was OO, I tried repeatedly to have knowledgeable people look at
this sheet as it has developed numerous anomalies over the 6 years I've
been developing and using it. It is a laboratory full of LO issues that
need to be addressed as to how these things could have happened, but I
could never get anyone's attention.

I'm a professional programmer (operating system internals) and can smell
logic errors in the application. The main line works well, but I suspect
that bugs exist in the more obscure portions of the code base. Lets face
it, it takes computer power to create 1520 dead end objects and I didn't
write any such code.

Every few months I suck out my 9000 lines of macro code and redevelop
the spreadsheet shell it fits within to get rid of the accumulated
rubbish. There are almost no formulas anywhere, as I just use the
sheet as a convenient GUI. My macros do all the work.

Why did I write this email? It was therapeutic for me, and I hope
someone in LO calc development will take me up on my offer to supply and
help debug strange occurrences as they occur.

Short of that, I'm going to have to rewrite this as a web app with a
compiled back end. It's a Point of Sale system used in my wife's
restaurant and she needs something more reliable than the LO version.

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[libreoffice-users] Something strange : settings in Tools - Options - Impress - Print

2011-08-04 Thread Hirono Moi
Hi,

(The other day, I'm sorry that I post this question into another
thread by my mistake.
Please forgive me for posting newly thread, again.)

I am using LibreOffice 3.4.2 on WinXP and I have discovered a strange
thing : the settings in Tools - Options - Impress - Print dialog.

Step1
  Create new Impress file and save as FileNameA.odp

Step2
  change the setting in Tools - Options - Impress - Print - Page
Options:
   select Fit to page (from Default)
   and then Click OK

Step3
  Edit slide something
  and the Save

Step4
  Creat new another one Impress file : File - New - Presentation

Step5
  Confirm the setting in Tools - Options - Impress - Print - Page
Options:
   stay in Fit to page

Step6
  save as FileNameB.odp

Step7
  Close both of FileNameA.odp and FileNameB.odp

Step8
  Create new another Impress file : File - New - Presentation

Step9
  Confirm the setting in Tools - Options - Impress - Print - Page
Options:
   stay in Fit to page

Step10
  Open FileNameA.odp

Step11
  Confirm the setting in Tools - Options - Impress - Print - Page
Options:
  !? Default !?

Why I get Page Options : Default ??

Do I have missed something?
Is there anyone else experiencing this?
Is there a solution?
Is it a well known problem?

Best Regards,


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Something strange : settings in Tools - Options - Impress - Print

2011-08-04 Thread Simon Cropper (The foss Workflow Guides)
Hi Hirono,

I use LO on Ubuntu 10.04.

I also get the described behaviour but only when I have not restarted LO.

The first time I opened LO and reproduced your steps it worked exactly
as you stated.

I closed LO and opened it again and the 'default' was then Fit to Page

I take it from my test that the configuration file is not updated in
this instance until LO is restarted.

Try changing the value of Tools -   Options -   Impress - Print - Page
to Fit to Page then restart LO. What is the value when you restart LO
Default or Fit to Page?

On 05/08/11 11:54, Hirono Moi wrote:
 I'm sorry that I made mistake.
 I put this question in another thread.
 
 I will post new one.
 
 Thaks
 
 
 (2011/08/03 16:34), Hirono Moi wrote:
 Hi,

 I am using LibreOffice 3.4.2 on WinXP and I have discovered a strange
 thing : the settings in Tools -   Options -   Impress - Print dialog.

 Step1
 Create new Impress file and save as FileNameA.odp.

 Step2
 change the setting in Tools -   Options -   Impress - Print - Page
 Options:
  select Fit to page (from Default)
  and then Click OK

 Step3
 Edit slide something
 and the Save

 Step4
 Creat new one more Impress file

 Step5
 Confirm the setting in Tools -   Options -   Impress - Print - Page
 Options:
  stay in Fit to page

 Step6
 save as FileNameB.odp

 Step7
 Close both of FileNameA.odp and FileNameB.odp

 Step8
 Create new Impress file

 Step9
 Confirm the setting in Tools -   Options -   Impress - Print - Page
 Options:
  stay in Fit to page

 Step10
 Open FileNameA.odp

 Step11
 Confirm the setting in Tools -   Options -   Impress - Print - Page
 Options:
 !? Default !?


 Why I get Page Options:Default ??

 Do I have missed something?
 Is there anyone else experiencing this?
 Is there a solution?
 Is it a well known problem?

 Best Regards,


 
 
 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO corruption

2011-08-04 Thread Simon Cropper (The foss Workflow Guides)

Bill,

I apologise if I am about to tell you something you already know and 
have considered, but have you thought about code page errors? As I read 
your account I kept thinking how reminiscent it was of the problems I 
recently encountered where I had a particular spreadsheet that caused 
the GUI and many other things to go haywire (e.g. buttons and toolbars 
moving, column being rendered out-of-sync, ever growing lines, etc).


In the end I tracked it down to the use of the degrees sign (Alt-248 
from the keyboard or Alt+0176 from the character map on XP; It is 
flagged as U+00B0 'Degree Sign'), inserted into a spreadsheet by a 
Visual Foxpro Program using Code Page 1252, then rendered on a Linux box 
using LO. It did not matter how the symbol got into the file - imported, 
cut and past, CSV import - all hell broke loose.


If you remove the 'degrees' sign from the original file everything just 
worked. Insert the symbol, the problem appears again.


The aberrant characters appeared to be acting as a control character 
being randomly parsed by LO/OO causing all sorts of problems.


This may not be the problem in your instance but as I said this kept 
going through my mind as I read your thread.


Maybe it is something to consider - either the data or macros may have 
been created in an unusual codepage that is confusing LO. That is to say 
it is expecting X and being given Y, and baulking at the result.


I solved my problem by stripping all seen and unseen characters from the 
data by filtering them through text editors then reinserted in a clean 
file. This is how I noticed the degree sign changing to another character.


Cheers Simon

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On 05/08/11 11:57, Bill Gradwohl wrote:

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About a week ago, I asked this list for help and got what I needed to
further investigate a situation I'm having with calc.

I've now determined that my problems are due to corruption of the calc
sheet. Further, I believe its calc itself that's doing it.

Case in point. My buttons were shrinking randomly, but in a somewhat
predictable fashion. Random as in I couldn't be certain when it would
happen, but predictable in that when it happened it was done in a
reasonably consistent way.

Using code that Andrew supplied, I dumped the shapes on each involved
sheet expecting 4 items. The first sheet had 1524 shapes of which 1520
had a control=null. The remaining 4 were my real buttons and were
scattered among the debris.

Common sense says I didn't manually create and somehow abandon 1520
shapes. I had absolutely no code that tried to create or manipulate the
buttons, so Sherlock Holmes would deduce that OO / LO did it. I only
used the IDE to create these 4 buttons on the first sheet and then
copied them to 20 other sheets using cut and paste within the IDE.

The remaining sheets all had far lesser amounts of rubbish, but not one
sheet had only the 4 buttons it was intended to have.

I wrote code to remove the dead ends. It worked like a charm. I saved
and reacquired the spreadsheet and then all the buttons were gone on all
21 sheets.

I repeated the process several times all resulting in the same outcome.

I also wrote code to reinflate my shrunken buttons to their required
size. Again, the code worked perfectly and I traversed each sheet to
make certain all was well. After a save and restart of LO, I get a bogus
password error part way through loading the spreadsheet and the whole
thing won't load. The spreadsheet is not password protected, so where
did a password come from?

On a damaged but working spreadsheet (shrunken buttons), if I move a
sheet from one position to another, or attempt to delete a sheet, all is
well during that session, but a save and LO reload fails, again with
some internal bogus password error half way through the loading process.

When LO was OO, I tried repeatedly to have knowledgeable people look at
this sheet as it has developed numerous anomalies over the 6 years I've
been developing and using it. It is a laboratory full of LO issues that
need to be addressed as to how these things could have happened, but I
could never get anyone's attention.

I'm a professional programmer (operating system internals) and can smell
logic errors in the application. The main line works well, but I suspect
that bugs exist in the more obscure portions of the code base. Lets face
it, it takes computer power to create 1520 dead end objects and I didn't
write any such code.

Every few months I suck out my 9000 lines of macro code and redevelop
the spreadsheet shell it fits within to get rid of the accumulated
rubbish. There are almost no formulas anywhere, as I just use the
sheet as a convenient GUI. My macros do all the work.

Why did I write this email? It was 

[libreoffice-users] Re: Activex control in LibreOffice 3.4.2?

2011-08-04 Thread NoOp
On 08/04/2011 09:34 AM, NoOp wrote:
 On 08/04/2011 12:53 AM, dgbutterworth wrote:
 My install package does not seem to have the ActiveX control for viewing
 documents in Internet Explorer.  The help file, however, includes directions
 on how to install the control (as an option in the install process).  What
 am I missing?  Thanks for your assistance.
 ...
 
 For 3.3:
 http://help.libreoffice.org/3.3/Common/ActiveX_Control_to_Display_Documents_in_Internet_Explorer
 
 Disclaimer: I've not tried this (I primarily use linux), and don't know
 if it exists in 3.4.2. I'll check on a Win machine later today.

Works for me on 3.4.2 WinXP:

Opened IE 8  then went to an .odt file on the system. File opened and
appeared in the browser (albeit somewhat slow starting up).

Checked in Custom Setup  Optional Components does not have an ActiveX
Control entry but instead has an Windows Explorer Extension option -
that is installed.




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[libreoffice-users] password problem

2011-08-04 Thread Bob Stia
Hello,

I;ve just joined this list in hopes of solving my password problem on one 
dpcument.

First of all I am running openSUSE 11.3, KDE3.5, and LibreOffice 3.3.1
This is going to be a problem for an expert in LibreOffice.

I have a document that I have had for years. Time to time I must open it, edit 
it and close it again. It is Libreoffice password protected.  A few days ago 
I opened the fdocument and then after editing closed it agaim. The other 
night I tried to open it again and the password failed. Yes, I entered it 
correctly, several times.  The same password works on other documents. 
Somehow the password changed or was corrupted for this particular document.

Is there a config file somewhere that I can edit and fix the problem?

Bob S

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Activex control in LibreOffice 3.4.2?

2011-08-04 Thread NoOp
On 08/04/2011 07:48 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 08/04/2011 09:34 AM, NoOp wrote:
 On 08/04/2011 12:53 AM, dgbutterworth wrote:
 My install package does not seem to have the ActiveX control for viewing
 documents in Internet Explorer.  The help file, however, includes directions
 on how to install the control (as an option in the install process).  What
 am I missing?  Thanks for your assistance.
 ...
 
 For 3.3:
 http://help.libreoffice.org/3.3/Common/ActiveX_Control_to_Display_Documents_in_Internet_Explorer
 
 Disclaimer: I've not tried this (I primarily use linux), and don't know
 if it exists in 3.4.2. I'll check on a Win machine later today.
 
 Works for me on 3.4.2 WinXP:
 
 Opened IE 8  then went to an .odt file on the system. File opened and
 appeared in the browser (albeit somewhat slow starting up).
 
 Checked in Custom Setup  Optional Components does not have an ActiveX
 Control entry but instead has an Windows Explorer Extension option -
 that is installed.

Just tested with WinXP LO 3.3.3 and the above works. However, again no
ActiveX Control entry but instead has an Windows Explorer Extension,
so it appears that the referenced help/documentation information is
incorrect. Please file a bug report against the documentation.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Activex control in LibreOffice 3.4.2?

2011-08-04 Thread NoOp
On 08/04/2011 01:49 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 There is an extension or add-on for FireFox but i doubt there is an ActiveX 
 for 
 Internet Explorer.  ActiveX is fairly often used to infect or compromise 
 systems 
 so it's good to avoid it.  
...
Do you *ever* test before or after you make comments like this on this list?




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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO corruption

2011-08-04 Thread Bill Gradwohl
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On 08/04/2011 08:44 PM, Simon Cropper (The foss Workflow Guides) wrote:

  ...   have you thought about code page errors? 

To answer your direct question - no I never considered code page errors.
I'll check it out.

Everything was developed on flavors of Fedora Linux starting on
OpenOffice and now running on LO. I've blown this spreadsheet away
numerous times over the years, keeping only my macros and a map of all
the named cells I use as anchors. I wrote macros to reproduce the named
ranges as I did that so often.

I'd use one machine to bring up the old trashed spreadsheet and query it
for cell widths, heights, colors, etc to reproduce the same sheet on
another machine in a pristine environment. Add back my macros and go
forward. That's a 2 day job of long tedious hours. Sometimes it would
take months for something strange to start to happen, but it always does
happen sooner or later.

I'm not using any strange symbols. Its a simple POS system that accepts
food orders, calculates costs, produces bills and receipts, does
payroll, etc. Everything in it is mundane simple arithmetic and text.

In the past, I hand massaged the xml files and pulled out huge sections
of dead nested repetitive code. In one case I dropped the size of the
.ods file by 110k worth of xml trash.

I'm certain LO is not cleaning up after itself properly and leaving
code droppings behind that cause this. I believe the IDE has some
issues as it periodically does some strange things. On numerous
occasions, I'd modify code in one module, switch to another module and
make changes, save, reload and loose the first modules fixes. Infuriating!

Am I supposed to remember to save for each module or should the IDE be
smart enough to warn me I'm about to loose changes, or should it simply
save everything when I say save? Something that trivial missing from the
IDE says something.

If you can insert a byte of data and cause LO to go berserk that only
means it needs better insulation mechanisms to separate your data from
its control codes. The developers should be thrilled to have you report
finding a hole in their code so they can close it.

If I as an end user can break it using only what was supplied to me to
use, then the problem is in the LO product, and needs to be fixed.
That's why I'm offering my help in supplying some pretty strange bugs
and help in isolating and fixing them to the best of my ability.

BTW - my internet connection is 16Kb/sec, when its up at all (Thank You
TIGO/Honduras), so that is a tremendous limiting factor in what I can
accomplish from here.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] password problem

2011-08-04 Thread Simon Cropper (The foss Workflow Guides)

On 05/08/11 12:44, Bob Stia wrote:

Hello,

I;ve just joined this list in hopes of solving my password problem on one
dpcument.

First of all I am running openSUSE 11.3, KDE3.5, and LibreOffice 3.3.1
This is going to be a problem for an expert in LibreOffice.

I have a document that I have had for years. Time to time I must open it, edit
it and close it again. It is Libreoffice password protected.  A few days ago
I opened the fdocument and then after editing closed it agaim. The other
night I tried to open it again and the password failed. Yes, I entered it
correctly, several times.  The same password works on other documents.
Somehow the password changed or was corrupted for this particular document.

Is there a config file somewhere that I can edit and fix the problem?

Bob S


Bob,

My understanding is the ODT files with passwords are encrypted. You need 
to employ hacker-like software to 'guess' or crack your password.


A quick search of Google shows a range of options like this one...
http://www.intelore.com/openoffice-password-article.php

That said, if you have typed that password many times it is more likely 
that the file has become corrupted. Look on the Internet for tools to 
recover corrupted ODT files. Maybe you could try and install the latest 
version of LO to see if that allows you to open the file - there are 
posts on the web that explain how the exact same issue seen in OO was 
solved by upgrading the package to the latest version. On trying to open 
the file the latest version of OO recognised that the file was corrupt 
and fixed it.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to select extension dictionary for spellchecking

2011-08-04 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


So, would it be better to use the Oxford English or the British English 
form of spelling?  Here in the USA, if we do not use proper American 
spelling our papers are rejected for sloppiness.  I wrote colour once 
instead of color and the professor was upset with me.  My 20 pound 
[weight] dictionary had the English spelling first, so I used it.  I did 
not know better in those days before computer were smaller than a normal 
car or truck.


So do we use en_GB or en_GB-oed as the default one for Queen and 
Country?  I think use Americans sometimes spell our words differently 
so we can be different after we broke away from British rule.


LibreOffice's ToolsLanguage SettingsLanguagesLocalized --- has 14 
different listing for English.  More languages than there are versions I 
can find to install or are in the install .deb files.


http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/US_English_April-19-2011-dic-file.oxt
is the link to one that has the most up-to-date .dic file I could find.  
I found the file and updated the original .oxt file with it.  Maybe 
someone could do that for en_GB-oed to my it better and more up-to-date 
than from a 2005 .dic file [which the one linked to before from OOo's 
site has].


Actually 500 years ago, most people could not read.  So knowing how to 
spell was not important.


Actually look at the number of different France/French language versions 
- 4 of them - plus a few localized ones that no longer are called French 
since they are so different.


20+ Spanish dictionaries are in the list I have at: 
http://libreoffice-na.us/English/extensions.html#dict .  All localized 
to a country which uses it.



On 08/04/2011 05:55 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think 500 years ago there wasn't even an agreed standard way of spelling any
word.  Shakespeare wrote his own name with many different spellings during his
life.  I did think that ise had been THE English way for a LOT longer tho!
lol.  Languages have to evolve and adapt to changing requirements.

Regards from
Tom :)





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To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 20:55:36
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to select extension dictionary for
spellchecking


So you are saying that the British English use of -ise instead of -ize is a new
thing that is just a new way of spelling words that have been around, a new
localized [or is it localised] way?

I use American English which spells colour as color.  But this is the first time
I have heard of the -ise/-ize issue.  Well they always say language involves.
Take English in Britain about 500 years ago.  The same words, but different
spellings.

So should I dump en_GB in favor en_GB-oed version?
Should I not include en_CA or en_GB[oed] in my dictionary list in the USA?
I know that one .oxt dictionary add-on that includes many different English
files.
Should people not use that type?

en_GB-oed .dic file has 46,113 words in its word list.  The Wiki page shows
analyse in en_GB-oed and analyze in en_US.  Well in the oed .dic file I
cannot find analyse.  Below is the word list where that word should be
located, but it is not.

ample/PT
amplification/M
anarchy/3Ww1SM
anastigmatic
Andaman/M
aneroid
Anglican/MS


I found the word
 analyse in the en_GB .dic file dated 2010-02-15
 analyze in the en_CA .dic file dated 2010-02-15
 but neither spelling in the en_GB-eod version dated 2005-06-13.
So the eod version has not kept up with what the Wiki page link shows for
Oxford English.

Of course, you could always edit a word list and keep only the spellings that
Oxford English excepts.  As I understand, the complete Oxford dictionary
contains 20 volumes/books to hold all the words and definitions.  I have a word
list of over 200,000 words, but would you want to have a word processor spell
checker dictionary with all those words, or only the ones you really want to
use?  The more words in the list, the more chances that your misspelled words
are correct spelling for a different unwanted word.  There is not good way
around it, except edit your word list to remove the words that are not spelled
correctly for your localized version of the language.


On 08/04/2011 10:18 AM, ron.vandenbranden wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for your thoughts.

On Thursday 4 August 2011 15:12:21, krackedpress [via Document
Foundation Mail Archive] wrote:

Could someone tell me what it the difference between the standard en_GB
and the OED [Oxford English] version?


Maybe I should clarify my problem: I regularly have to edit articles
for publication in a journal that conforms to Oxford Spelling
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_spelling), which differs on some
points from regular BE spelling, e.g.: only forms in -ize are allowed.
In order to facilitate spell checking, I installed the OED extension

Re: [libreoffice-users] password problem

2011-08-04 Thread Bill Gradwohl
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On 08/04/2011 08:44 PM, Bob Stia wrote:
 I have a document that I have had for years. Time to time I must open it, 
 edit 
 it and close it again. It is Libreoffice password protected.  A few days ago 
 I opened the fdocument and then after editing closed it agaim. The other 
 night I tried to open it again and the password failed.

Bob

Look at what happens carefully. Even experiment on another test doc to
see a slight difference that may be significant.

I've experienced password failures on password protected documents part
way through the loading process after it successfully took my password
and then manufactured a bogus password failure message a certain
distance into the loading process.

The password failure messages are different depending on if you really
keyed in a wrong password or it pops up a bogus message.

Create a test document, password protect it and then ATTEMPT to open it
with a bad password. Is that the password message your real doc is
getting or is it another one? The other one is a bogus message after the
file's been corrupted.

I noticed this on a large spreadsheet that takes quite a while to load.
It would take my password, start to load, and then fail some seconds
later on some internal error and puts up a bogus message.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to select extension dictionary for spellchecking

2011-08-04 Thread planas
Hi

On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 23:49 -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press
Productions wrote: 

 So, would it be better to use the Oxford English or the British English 
 form of spelling?  Here in the USA, if we do not use proper American 
 spelling our papers are rejected for sloppiness.  I wrote colour once 
 instead of color and the professor was upset with me.  My 20 pound 
 [weight] dictionary had the English spelling first, so I used it.  I did 
 not know better in those days before computer were smaller than a normal 
 car or truck.
 
 So do we use en_GB or en_GB-oed as the default one for Queen and 
 Country?  I think use Americans sometimes spell our words differently 
 so we can be different after we broke away from British rule.
 
 LibreOffice's ToolsLanguage SettingsLanguagesLocalized --- has 14 
 different listing for English.  More languages than there are versions I 
 can find to install or are in the install .deb files.
 
 http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/US_English_April-19-2011-dic-file.oxt
 is the link to one that has the most up-to-date .dic file I could find.  
 I found the file and updated the original .oxt file with it.  Maybe 
 someone could do that for en_GB-oed to my it better and more up-to-date 
 than from a 2005 .dic file [which the one linked to before from OOo's 
 site has].
 
 Actually 500 years ago, most people could not read.  So knowing how to 
 spell was not important.
 
 Actually look at the number of different France/French language versions 
 - 4 of them - plus a few localized ones that no longer are called French 
 since they are so different.
 
 20+ Spanish dictionaries are in the list I have at: 
 http://libreoffice-na.us/English/extensions.html#dict .  All localized 
 to a country which uses it.
 
 
 On 08/04/2011 05:55 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
  Hi :)
  I think 500 years ago there wasn't even an agreed standard way of spelling 
  any
  word.  Shakespeare wrote his own name with many different spellings during 
  his
  life.  I did think that ise had been THE English way for a LOT longer tho!
  lol.  Languages have to evolve and adapt to changing requirements.
 
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
 
 
 
  
  From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 20:55:36
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to select extension dictionary for
  spellchecking
 
 
  So you are saying that the British English use of -ise instead of -ize is a 
  new
  thing that is just a new way of spelling words that have been around, a new
  localized [or is it localised] way?
 
  I use American English which spells colour as color.  But this is the first 
  time
  I have heard of the -ise/-ize issue.  Well they always say language 
  involves.
  Take English in Britain about 500 years ago.  The same words, but different
  spellings.
 
  So should I dump en_GB in favor en_GB-oed version?
  Should I not include en_CA or en_GB[oed] in my dictionary list in the USA?
  I know that one .oxt dictionary add-on that includes many different English
  files.
  Should people not use that type?
 
  en_GB-oed .dic file has 46,113 words in its word list.  The Wiki page shows
  analyse in en_GB-oed and analyze in en_US.  Well in the oed .dic file I
  cannot find analyse.  Below is the word list where that word should be
  located, but it is not.
  
  ample/PT
  amplification/M
  anarchy/3Ww1SM
  anastigmatic
  Andaman/M
  aneroid
  Anglican/MS
  
 
  I found the word
   analyse in the en_GB .dic file dated 2010-02-15
   analyze in the en_CA .dic file dated 2010-02-15
   but neither spelling in the en_GB-eod version dated 2005-06-13.
  So the eod version has not kept up with what the Wiki page link shows for
  Oxford English.
 
  Of course, you could always edit a word list and keep only the spellings 
  that
  Oxford English excepts.  As I understand, the complete Oxford dictionary
  contains 20 volumes/books to hold all the words and definitions.  I have a 
  word
  list of over 200,000 words, but would you want to have a word processor 
  spell
  checker dictionary with all those words, or only the ones you really want to
  use?  The more words in the list, the more chances that your misspelled 
  words
  are correct spelling for a different unwanted word.  There is not good way
  around it, except edit your word list to remove the words that are not 
  spelled
  correctly for your localized version of the language.
 
 
  On 08/04/2011 10:18 AM, ron.vandenbranden wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Thanks for your thoughts.
 
  On Thursday 4 August 2011 15:12:21, krackedpress [via Document
  Foundation Mail Archive] wrote:
  Could someone tell me what it the difference between the standard en_GB
  and the OED [Oxford English] version?
 
  Maybe I should clarify my problem: I regularly have to edit articles
  for publication in a 

RE: [libreoffice-users] password problem

2011-08-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
If the password is entered wrong, usually the first file that is decrypted with 
that password will fail a checksum check and there will be a pretty-immediate 
failure.

If one of the files is corrupted, its decryption will fail the checksum check 
after some amount of decryption of other parts of the document have happened. 
It might still treat it as a password error, even though the password has been 
working until the particular part of the ODF document fails.  If the software 
offers to attempt to recover, you should try it.  (I suspect it is not designed 
to do that in this case.)

One thing you can do with the file that fails is try to open it with a Zip 
utility and run a test on it.  If the Zip tests all right, it means the 
corruption occurred during encryption, not later, during writing.  If the Zip 
indicates any part of the document is corrupted, you might see if a Zip repair 
utility can help.

The corruption could be in the key information rather than in the file (which 
would be very bad, since there is almost no way to recover if that is the 
case).  If the corruption is in the file, the form of encryption used tends to 
limit mistakes (that is, things tend to go right again after a while).  Because 
the decrypted file is a compressed stream inside of a Zip, decompression can 
also go off the rails.  But it may be possible to recover whatever there is.  
But at this point, password recovery won't help because your password is not 
the problem.  It takes some serious forensic tools to now attempt a recovery, 
and I don't know who might have those that work with the encryptions that are 
used for ODF documents.

You may also be able to find a backup of the unencrypted file on your system.  
You should look for that.  Also, if you can reconstruct from an earlier version 
of the file, that would be good. JeepNut was able to find a backup to recover a 
seriously-corrupted file (crash during save) in a post last Friday.  Look in 
Tools | Options | LibreOffice | Paths and see where the Backups are in the list 
of Paths used by LibreOffice.  You might also be able to find something in 
Temporary files (that's a stretch).

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Bill Gradwohl [mailto:b...@ycc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 20:54
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] password problem

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On 08/04/2011 08:44 PM, Bob Stia wrote:
 I have a document that I have had for years. Time to time I must open it, 
 edit 
 it and close it again. It is Libreoffice password protected.  A few days ago 
 I opened the fdocument and then after editing closed it agaim. The other 
 night I tried to open it again and the password failed.

Bob

Look at what happens carefully. Even experiment on another test doc to
see a slight difference that may be significant.

I've experienced password failures on password protected documents part
way through the loading process after it successfully took my password
and then manufactured a bogus password failure message a certain
distance into the loading process.

The password failure messages are different depending on if you really
keyed in a wrong password or it pops up a bogus message.

Create a test document, password protect it and then ATTEMPT to open it
with a bad password. Is that the password message your real doc is
getting or is it another one? The other one is a bogus message after the
file's been corrupted.

I noticed this on a large spreadsheet that takes quite a while to load.
It would take my password, start to load, and then fail some seconds
later on some internal error and puts up a bogus message.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Something strange : settings in Tools - Options - Impress - Print

2011-08-04 Thread Hirono Moi
Hi Simon,

Thank you very much your reproducing and advice.

 I take it from my test that the configuration file is not updated in
 this instance until LO is restarted.

Yes, I know you're right, but,
After I restarted LO,
and then I opend FileNameA.odp or FileNameB.odp,
the value was 'default'.

How about in  your case?

Regards,



(2011/08/05 11:10), Simon Cropper (The foss Workflow Guides) wrote:
 Hi Hirono,
 
 I use LO on Ubuntu 10.04.
 
 I also get the described behaviour but only when I have not restarted LO.
 
 The first time I opened LO and reproduced your steps it worked exactly
 as you stated.
 
 I closed LO and opened it again and the 'default' was then Fit to Page
 
 I take it from my test that the configuration file is not updated in
 this instance until LO is restarted.
 
 Try changing the value of Tools -Options -Impress - Print - Page
 to Fit to Page then restart LO. What is the value when you restart LO
 Default or Fit to Page?


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