Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc will not save file after sheet deleted.

2011-08-10 Thread Simon Cropper

On 10/08/11 13:07, Steve Edmonds wrote:

Hi.

On 2011-08-10 14:00, Simon Cropper wrote:

On 10/08/11 10:22, Bill Gradwohl wrote:

On 08/09/2011 05:46 PM, Simon Cropper wrote:


*Has anyone encountered or heard of a similar problem?*

*Anyone got some ideas?*


Check out the bug I just created at
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39930

I've been fighting this corruption issue for YEARS and can't get anyone
to look at it seriously.  They keep coming out with new releases, but
none of them ever solve these corruption problems.

When LO saves a file and then can't reopen it successfully, it is LO's
problem regardless of what an end user might have done.

They keep putting a new coat of paint on a rusty chassis and are
shocked, shocked when someone points out the rot.

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Hi Bill,

I was aware of your issue but don't believe we are talking about the
same problem. My symptoms are quite different. I am not sure at
present whether the problem is a corrupt file or wonky OO/LO code.


I may be wrong, but I have always thought that a Save As saves in a
newly created file formatted from scratch. If a file that has been
Saved As still exhibits the problem I would think that 1. if the file
is corrupted LO is corrupting it and has a bug or 2. if the file is not
corrupted (you could delete a sheet in say OOO?) then the bug is in LO.
Either way LO has a bug.

steve



Steve,

1. I am not sure about 'Save as' myself. My testing though suggests it 
only converts or resets the internal file structure on conversion to 
another format. ODS to ODS does not appear to rewrite the internal 
structure.


2. the files created with 'Save as' does exhibit the problem. This 
indicates the problem is file specific and able to be transmitted to 
derivatives.


3. The problem can not be recreated in a freshly created ODS file, so in 
essence you could argue it is not a bug.


4. My gut feeling is the file structure is somehow corrupted. Nothing 
that would affect normal operation but shows up when conducting 
broadscale sheet manipulations. How this change has come about is unclear.


OK, to prove a point, I stripped everything out of a copy of the file 
except the tabs and underlying structure. I opened each tab, deleted the 
text and cleared the font / background / linework formatting using the 
toolbar options. Removed the freeze panes and an object (images or 
textboxes) from the sheet. Saved. Tried to delete a sheet and behold, 
wouldn't you guess it, the file saved OK.


This is a Seinfield moment I am currently holding my head in my hands 
repeating serenity now! serenity now!


OK. OK. This indicates that something has been added to the file in 
recent months that is causing the problem -- an image, some imported 
text... h..


Really the only input to this file is text/numbers entered via the 
keyboard or the importation of text/numbers via CSV downloaded from a 
bank account. I stripped these but it made no change.


 *The short version*

To cut a long process short I deleted a sheet then proceeded to clear 
the contents of other sheets progressively *until* I was able to save. 
This identified the sheet.


I then repeated this process until I identified a single cell. In fact 
it was a 'duplicate cell'. This cell has an associated picklist -- that 
is cell range with a variety of legitimate values. It also has a comment 
inserted. This comment is simply an explanation and reminder to do 
something. *Delete the comment* and the sheet saves as expected; undo 
the change and the error appears. I say 'duplicate' because I copied and 
paste this block to another location on the same sheet as a 'fixed' copy 
(as the original has VLOOKUPs that change based on picklist value) but 
neglected to omit the comments so they were duplicated.


 *Some additional testing*

1. Going back to some 'uncorrupted' files from 2009 I am unable to 
reproduce the error.


2. If I create a new file I can not reproduce the error.

3. It is necessary to delete both the original and copy of the comment 
in question. Deleting one or the other makes no difference, both must be 
deleted. inspection of the contents.xml in the archive only shows one 
comment (I have no idea if this is normal; I presume a reference to the 
'comment' object was cmpies not the object).


4. Once the offending comment-pair are deleted then the file works as 
expected.


5. If you reinsert a comment in the sheet -- after saving, closing and 
reopening the 'corrupted' file, you get an error again.


6. If you insert a comment in other sheet. In most the save works but 
for a couple it does not. I can not find any visible similarity in the 
data, format or objects on these pages (the error is triggered on 
certain sheets only).


7. If you create a new sheet, copy the text/numbers/format//formulas to 
the new sheet and delete the offending 'corrupt sheet'. Deleting another 
sheet does not trigger the error. If you insert a 

[libreoffice-users] The macro script to copy range cell from another file

2011-08-10 Thread toto

Is there anyone knows how to copy range cell from another file ...

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2011-08-10 Thread RK
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[libreoffice-users] Macro not active when the document start

2011-08-10 Thread toto
I'm using macro's function and it doesn't start when the document start. 
It would start if I change the value of the variabel at the function. 
The code is to change numeric value to string. If I execute the code: 
ubah(123) the result is seratus dua puluh tiga. Any idea how to make 
the function executed when I open the document?


The code is:

Public Function ubah(x as currency) as String
Dim triliun As Currency
Dim milyar As Currency
Dim juta As Currency
Dim ribu As Currency
Dim satu As Currency
Dim sen As Currency
Dim baca As String
If x  1 Then
   gusti =  Modul belum tersedia saat ini 
   Exit Function
End If
'Jika x adalah 0, maka dibaca sebagai 0
If x = 0 Then
   baca = angka(0, 1)
Else
   'Pisah masing-masing bagian untuk triliun, milyar, juta, ribu, 
rupiah, dan sen

   triliun = Int(x / 1000 ^ 4)
   milyar = Int((x - triliun * 1000 ^ 4) / 1000 ^ 3)
   juta = Int((x - triliun * 1000 ^ 4 - milyar * 1000 ^ 3) / 1000 ^ 2)
   ribu = Int((x - triliun * 1000 ^ 4 - milyar * 1000 ^ 3 - juta * 
1000 ^ 2) / 1000)
   satu = Int(x - triliun * 1000 ^ 4 - milyar * 1000 ^ 3 - juta * 
1000 ^ 2 - ribu * 1000)

   sen = Int((x - Int(x)) * 100)
   'Baca bagian triliun dan ditambah akhiran triliun
   If triliun  0 Then
  baca = ratus(triliun, 5) + triliun 
   End If
   'Baca bagian milyar dan ditambah akhiran milyar
   If milyar  0 Then
  baca = ratus(milyar, 4) + milyar 
   End If
   'Baca bagian juta dan ditambah akhiran juta
   If juta  0 Then
  baca = baca + ratus(juta, 3) + juta 
   End If
   'Baca bagian ribu dan ditambah akhiran ribu
   If ribu  0 Then
  baca = baca + ratus(ribu, 2) + ribu 
   End If
   'Baca bagian rupiah dan ditambah akhiran rupiah
   If satu  0 Then
  baca = baca + ratus(satu, 1)
   End If
   'Baca bagian sen dan ditambah akhiran sen
   If sen  0 Then
  baca = baca + ratus(sen, 0)
   End If
End If
ubah = UCase(Left(baca, 1))  LCase(Mid(baca, 2))
End Function

Function ratus(x As Currency, Posisi As Integer) As String
Dim a100 As Integer, a10 As Integer, a1 As Integer
Dim baca As String
a100 = Int(x * 0.01)
a10 = Int((x - a100 * 100) * 0.1)
a1 = Int(x - a100 * 100 - a10 * 10)
'Baca Bagian Ratus
If a100 = 1 Then
   baca = Seratus 
Else
   If a100  0 Then
  baca = angka(a100, Posisi) + ratus 
   End If
End If
'Baca Bagian Puluh dan Satuan
If a10 = 1 Then
   baca = baca + angka(a10 * 10 + a1, Posisi)
Else
   If a10  0 Then
  baca = baca + angka(a10, Posisi) + puluh 
   End If
   If a1  0 Then
  baca = baca + angka(a1, Posisi)
   End If
End If
ratus = baca
End Function

Function angka(x As Integer, Posisi As Integer)
Select Case x
Case 0: angka = Nol
Case 1:
If Posisi = 1 Or Posisi  2 Then
   angka = Satu 
Else
   angka = Satu 
End If
Case 2: angka = Dua 
Case 3: angka = Tiga 
Case 4: angka = Empat 
Case 5: angka = Lima 
Case 6: angka = Enam 
Case 7: angka = Tujuh 
Case 8: angka = Delapan 
Case 9: angka = Sembilan 
Case 10: angka = Sepuluh 
Case 11: angka = Sebelas 
Case 12: angka = Duabelas 
Case 13: angka = Tigabelas 
Case 14: angka = Empatbelas 
Case 15: angka = Limabelas 
Case 16: angka = Enambelas 
Case 17: angka = Tujuhbelas 
Case 18: angka = Delapanbelas 
Case 19: angka = Sembilanbelas 
End Select
End Function




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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Calc: Format column titles in DataPilot

2011-08-10 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Joe,

JOE Conner wrote (09-08-11 23:04)


*One thing I noticed right away - there is a serious bug when changing
orientations, in that it is difficult to keep the text within the cell.
As I was rotating the text it would often bounce into the adjoining
cell. It seems that the text alignment feature does not extend to
rotated text, and chooses any random alignment.*


In the section Rotation, you can choose the reference boarder too.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Macro not active when the document start

2011-08-10 Thread Cor Nouws


toto wrote (10-08-11 09:23)

I'm using macro's function and it doesn't start when the document start.


You can change that via Tools  Customize  Events.
Find the OnOpen event and link it to the macro for the document.

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[libreoffice-users] LO showing wrong version in About

2011-08-10 Thread Jorgo
Because of recent problems with Calc I updated LibreOffice from 3.3.2 to
3.3.3 to 3.4.2.

When installing under XP the package LibO_3.4.2_Win_x86_install_multi.exe
the Help/About screen shows wrong information:
LibreOffice 3.3.2 
OOO330m19 (Build:202)
tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2

Is this a bug or a feature? ;-)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] mailinglist

2011-08-10 Thread Stan Goodman

On 08/10/2011 10:48 AM, RK wrote:

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO showing wrong version in About

2011-08-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
The 3.3.3 is the latest stable release.  The 3.4.2 is for early adopters, ie 
development branch, and has quite a few extra features with possibly greater 
success at converting docX files.  


Sorry i can't help with the actual question!  Hopefully someone else will.
Regards from
Tom :)





From: Jorgo ma...@jorgo.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 9:45:12
Subject: [libreoffice-users] LO showing wrong version in About

Because of recent problems with Calc I updated LibreOffice from 3.3.2 to
3.3.3 to 3.4.2.

When installing under XP the package LibO_3.4.2_Win_x86_install_multi.exe
the Help/About screen shows wrong information:
LibreOffice 3.3.2 
OOO330m19 (Build:202)
tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2

Is this a bug or a feature? ;-)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO showing wrong version in About

2011-08-10 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 10/08/2011 09:45, Jorgo wrote:

Because of recent problems with Calc I updated LibreOffice from 3.3.2 to
3.3.3 to 3.4.2.

When installing under XP the package LibO_3.4.2_Win_x86_install_multi.exe
the Help/About screen shows wrong information:
LibreOffice 3.3.2
OOO330m19 (Build:202)
tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2

Is this a bug or a feature? ;-)




I installed 3.4.2 in Windows 7 and HelpAbout says LibreOffice 3.4.2  
OOO340m1 (Build:203) so I'm not sure why yours doesn't...


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Re: [libreoffice-users] add ttf fonts to LibreOffice

2011-08-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Is this something to do with Paths?  Can it be fixed in
Tools - Options - LibreOffice - Paths?

Errr is LE being used to refer to LibreOffice?  Is it used in the French lists 
or something?
Regards from
Tom :)




From: planas jsloz...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 6:15:08
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] add ttf fonts to LibreOffice

Hi

On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 21:05 -0700, SillyOne wrote: 

 My question is really basic, but I couldn't find anything about it, sorry.
 So here goes.
 
 Adding fonts to the windows version of LE is simple, just add them to the
 c:/windows/fonts folder (or install via control panel), and you can use
 them in LE just as in any other applications.
 But in Linux (I'm using Linux Mint 11 x64) I can't figure out how to get it
 done.
 
 *what I have tried:*
 1) copied the fonts to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/windows-fonts, updated
 the font cache doing sudo fc-cache -fv, they show up using fc-list, but they
 didn't show up in LibreOffice.
 2) opened the font in font viewer and clicked install, same as above.
 
 I'd prefer a solution that can be automated (I'm about to install hundreds
 of fonts), but everything is appreciated.
 
 Thank you!  
 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Printing selected sheet from 3.4.0 calc prints all sheets.

2011-08-10 Thread edileslie
Yes, not only the version for mac, but this is actually happen in libreoffice
3.3.3 ubuntu version.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Need Calc help

2011-08-10 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 09.08.2011 16:49, Onyeibo Oku wrote:


There is a Calc Section of the forum? Where?



Overwiew native language forums:

http://user.services.openoffice.org/



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http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/index.php



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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO showing wrong version in About

2011-08-10 Thread Jorgo
Found the solution: 3.4 installed itself in another directory in parallel to 
3.3, so most shortcuts were on the 3.3 version... some cleaning  reconfiguring 
solves the mess.
thanks for your feedback!


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Re: [libreoffice-users] add ttf fonts to LibreOffice

2011-08-10 Thread Nuno J. Silva
On 2011-08-10, Tom Davies wrote:
 On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 21:05 -0700, SillyOne wrote: 

 Adding fonts to the windows version of LE is simple [...]

 Errr is LE being used to refer to LibreOffice?  Is it used in the French 
 lists 
 or something?

Sounds like the official Firefox shortening, Fx (while many people use
Ff).

I've been using LibO, but, BTW, do we have some official shortening?

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc will not save file after sheet deleted.

2011-08-10 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 10.08.2011 01:46, Simon Cropper wrote:

Hi,

I have an old spreadsheet in ODS format. The file was originally an XLS
file then converted to ODS format several years ago *and* has been used
weekly over that period without any problems.


Since the days of OpenOffice.org 1.0 I use the same dBase file together 
with Calc data pilots as reporting engine.
I'm pretty sure that this file will take another 50,000 records during 
the next 10 years without any problems.


Spreadsheets are the worst data storage, regardless if Excel, ODF or 
whatever. Even a collection of plain text tables is far better than 
spreadsheets.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] The macro script to copy range cell from another file

2011-08-10 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak

On 08/10/2011 03:30 AM, toto wrote:

Is there anyone knows how to copy range cell from another file ...

Do you mean from another file that is open, or another file that is on 
disk and not loaded into RAM?


Off hand, I believe that you need to select the the cells, copy them to 
the clipboard, focus the cursor in the destination sheet, then paste. I 
do not believe that copy range works between Calc documents.


Here are some hints:

http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=23067

http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=26491

http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=115480


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[libreoffice-users] How can I build only libreoffice-writer instead of whole office suite ?

2011-08-10 Thread Partha Chowdhury

Hallo all.This is my first post to the list.

I have successfully build libreoffice-3.3.3.1 form source.However, I 
need office only to open and edit word documents and nothing else. So I 
want only to build the writer part and not the whole office.I have 
googled but have not found anything to this effect.The documentation 
covers only building from git and not the individual parts. So is it 
possible only to build a part of libreoffice instead of whole suite ?



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[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Calc: Format column titles in DataPilot

2011-08-10 Thread Andreas Säger

Joe,

Download this document:

http://www.mediafire.com/?qfhk56r2eyihccu



The 3rd sheet has a data pilot derived from the data on the first sheet.
Apply whatever format to the column headers (Category 1 etc.).
Then call DataDataPilotRefresh from the menu or the pilot's context menu.
You may also select a header, look up the underlying cell style in the 
stylist and modify that. In this case the formatting will survive a 
refresh but the formatting is applied to the row headers as well.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] add ttf fonts to LibreOffice

2011-08-10 Thread Roland Hughes
The KDE desktop has a nice application built in to add fonts.

The Gnome desktop is from a time when programmers lived in caves and ate
their young.  You have to know the super secret directories to copy
into, then the 3 name never spoken script files to edit.

There is a Gnome font adding application, but most distros don't include
it.


On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 21:05 -0700, SillyOne wrote:

 My question is really basic, but I couldn't find anything about it, sorry.
  
 So here goes.
 
 Adding fonts to the windows version of LE is simple, just add them to the
 c:/windows/fonts folder (or install via control panel), and you can use
 them in LE just as in any other applications.
 But in Linux (I'm using Linux Mint 11 x64) I can't figure out how to get it
 done.
 
 *what I have tried:*
 1) copied the fonts to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/windows-fonts, updated
 the font cache doing sudo fc-cache -fv, they show up using fc-list, but they
 didn't show up in LibreOffice.
 2) opened the font in font viewer and clicked install, same as above.
 
 I'd prefer a solution that can be automated (I'm about to install hundreds
 of fonts), but everything is appreciated.
 
 Thank you!  
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] add ttf fonts to LibreOffice

2011-08-10 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 10/08/2011 14:04, Roland Hughes wrote:

The Gnome desktop is from a time when programmers lived in caves and ate
their young.  You have to know the super secret directories to copy
into, then the 3 name never spoken script files to edit.

Eh? Just copy into the Fonts folder - just like you do in Windows. No 
need to edit anything...


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Re: [libreoffice-users] add ttf fonts to LibreOffice

2011-08-10 Thread soumalya ray
i dont know about other distros or desktop manager but in ubuntu 10.04
(Gnome classic),i could install fonts by double clicking it.

On 10 August 2011 18:34, Roland Hughes rol...@logikalsolutions.com wrote:

 The KDE desktop has a nice application built in to add fonts.

 The Gnome desktop is from a time when programmers lived in caves and ate
 their young.  You have to know the super secret directories to copy
 into, then the 3 name never spoken script files to edit.

 There is a Gnome font adding application, but most distros don't include
 it.


 On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 21:05 -0700, SillyOne wrote:

  My question is really basic, but I couldn't find anything about it,
 sorry.
  So here goes.
 
  Adding fonts to the windows version of LE is simple, just add them to the
  c:/windows/fonts folder (or install via control panel), and you can use
  them in LE just as in any other applications.
  But in Linux (I'm using Linux Mint 11 x64) I can't figure out how to get
 it
  done.
 
  *what I have tried:*
  1) copied the fonts to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/windows-fonts, updated
  the font cache doing sudo fc-cache -fv, they show up using fc-list, but
 they
  didn't show up in LibreOffice.
  2) opened the font in font viewer and clicked install, same as above.
 
  I'd prefer a solution that can be automated (I'm about to install
 hundreds
  of fonts), but everything is appreciated.
 
  Thank you!
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] mailinglist

2011-08-10 Thread soumalya ray
could any language be used to ask question in this mailing list?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] add ttf fonts to LibreOffice

2011-08-10 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Which font app are you talking about?  I use GNOME on Ubuntu and I had 
several to choose from.  It even had a default font viewer app included.


Besides, I do not live in a cave, but on the 10 floor of a building that 
houses the elderly and the physically handicapped.  No jokes about that 
please, since I am an advocate for the rights of handicapped/disabled 
people.


Myself, I choose GNOME over KDE.  There are some nice things about KDE, 
but I rather use GNOME and add some of the KDE utilities to it to give 
me the best of both worlds.


On 08/10/2011 09:04 AM, Roland Hughes wrote:

The KDE desktop has a nice application built in to add fonts.

The Gnome desktop is from a time when programmers lived in caves and ate
their young.  You have to know the super secret directories to copy
into, then the 3 name never spoken script files to edit.

There is a Gnome font adding application, but most distros don't include
it.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base 3.4.2 doesn't run on Windows 7

2011-08-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Thanks for confirming that the _21 is the best version for LibreOffice.  Is 
there any chance of joining the Documentation Team to write-up the instructions 
for installing a separate version of Java specifically for LibreOffice?  I 
think 
a chapter about Java is likely to start off as being very small and it's not 
clear exactly where it could go but i think once written it could be moved 
fairly easily.  


Alternatively perhaps an Ubuntu Community Documentation page?  Either a radical 
re-write of
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
or something more specific to LibreOffice such as creating a new page
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Base/Java
With a longer-term view of having a single main page about Base that then has 
sub-pages (such as the Java one) and/or links to proper LibreOffice 
documentation.  


Regards from
Tom :)




From: Don Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 4:09:06
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base 3.4.2 doesn't run on Windows 7

Hi,

When we had the long thread about Base working really slowly and the problem 
being Java, I thought someone said the issue only affected those running Base 
in 
Linux. I only run it (but on 4 machines) in Ubuntu. I have no Windows installs. 
When Ubuntu had 1.6.0_22 as the default, my base worked fine. When the Java 
1.6.0_24 update was installed, base became horribly slow. When the 1.6.0_26 
update was installed, it was still very slow. Someone in the thread said that 
in 
Linux you can have two Java versions installed on a system side by side, and he 
gave instructions on how to do it. Following those instructions, I've tried 
both 
1.6.0_21 and 1.6.0_22. Base works well with both of them, but is just a tiny 
bit 
faster on my systems with the _21 version. When you install the second version 
as per the instructions this person gave, the older version is only used for 
LibreOffice. The browsers are still using the latest version, so you have all 
of 
the security protection of the latest version. I'm sorry I can't give you 
advise 
relative to Windows systems. I don't know if Windows has the same situation as 
Linux. The problem wasn't that Base didn't run in Linux. It was just very 
sluggish.

On 08/09/2011 06:50 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Except that quite a few people have reported problems with ultra-new java such
 as the  _26 version.  The _22 and _20 were ok but the _21 seems to be the best
 for LibreOffice Base.  I think the _22 is the standard one in the Ubuntu repos
 but i'm not sure about other distros or Windows (or Mac or Bsd).  It might 
mean
 you need to have 2 versions of Java installed as your web-browser might be 
using
 something other than the _20 - _22
 
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
 
 
 
 From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Sun, 7 August, 2011 14:00:59
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base 3.4.2 doesn't run on Windows 7
 
 
 I remember something about Sun/Oracle older version of Java having problem 
with
 LibreOffice, but there is an open-source version that would instead.
 
 The one on my Ubuntu system states it is Sun's Java, but the file's name
 [folder's name] of the runtime engine seems to be Java-6-openjdk.
 
 I know someone on this list would know what the best link for it is.  Ubuntu
 seems to have it on its repository, but Windows would need a link to
 find/download it for their use.
 
 As for the latest version of Java, it is always a good idea to keep your 
version
 of Java up-to-date.
 
 On 08/07/2011 07:20 AM, Juan Antonio wrote:
 Solved . The problem was *Java*. It wasn't correctly installed in my pc.
 
 I've desinstalled Java and then installed the last version, and LibreOffice
 Base runs normally.
 
 Regards!
 
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2011-08-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Not really.  It is nice to see different languages in here but native 
English-speakers are often unable to understand more than 1 language and many 
have trouble even with that one.  There are many other lists for many other 
languages.  

Regards from
Tom the monoglot :)




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Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 14:12:31
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] mailinglist

could any language be used to ask question in this mailing list?

On 10 August 2011 14:41, Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.com wrote:

 On 08/10/2011 10:48 AM, RK wrote:

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How can I build only libreoffice-writer instead of whole office suite ?

2011-08-10 Thread Stan Goodman

On 08/10/2011 03:37 PM, Partha Chowdhury wrote:

Hallo all.This is my first post to the list.

I have successfully build libreoffice-3.3.3.1 form source.However, I
need office only to open and edit word documents and nothing else. So I
want only to build the writer part and not the whole office.I have
googled but have not found anything to this effect.The documentation
covers only building from git and not the individual parts. So is it
possible only to build a part of libreoffice instead of whole suite ?


There are not parts of LO, each of which performs one of these 
functions. What appear to be separate programs bundled together are 
simply aspects of a single application. So no, one can't have Writer alone



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Re: [libreoffice-users] add ttf fonts to LibreOffice

2011-08-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Smart.  I guess most of us just hadn't thought of it.  

I think short-forms are quite cute and friendly but the marketing team asked us 
not to use them outside the lists to the wider world (personal emails and 
smaller groups can do what they want of course).  We need to get the full name 
out there apparently.  Normally a name change such as from OpenOffice to 
LibreOffice would be phased in using both names in conjunction with each other 
for about a year or more apparently otherwise there is a risk of losing and 
confusing people and losing the Brand recognition.  


Early on the lists agreed to use LibO as the agreed shortening but to me that 
makes it sound like the thousands of library files i routinely ignore so a few 
of us started using LO as in Lo and behold (oops).  Fx is the term used 
backstage rather than writing Special Effects.  Lx is for electrics or 
electronics although people tend to pronounce it elec-trickery or Leccy 
to 
try to be amusing or cute or express annoyance.  

Regards from
Tom :)




From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 14:42:32
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] add ttf fonts to LibreOffice

2011/8/10 Nuno J. Silva nunojsi...@ist.utl.pt:
 On 2011-08-10, Tom Davies wrote:
 On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 21:05 -0700, SillyOne wrote:

 Adding fonts to the windows version of LE is simple [...]

 Errr is LE being used to refer to LibreOffice?  Is it used in the French 
lists
 or something?

 Sounds like the official Firefox shortening, Fx (while many people use
 Ff).

 I've been using LibO, but, BTW, do we have some official shortening?

We are using computers, aren't we? So why shorten anything? I use a
text expansion tool called AutoKey (there are other ones for other
operating systems) to expand all my shortenings as I type, like ””
for ”OpenOffice.org”, ”lboo” for ”LibreOffice”, ”lboc” for
”LibreOffice Calc” and ”kregj” for:

”Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ”


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc will not save file after sheet deleted.

2011-08-10 Thread Bill Gradwohl
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On 08/10/2011 12:41 AM, Simon Cropper wrote:
 
 Unless someone recognised these symptoms and can put forward some ideas,
 I am treating this as a corrupt file.


When LO can't read its own handwriting, so to speak, does that not prove
LO has a serious problem?
When you use only the tools provided by LO to manipulate your document
and that document gets trashed due to corruption, does that not prove LO
has a serious problem?

Now that you've concluded that corruption has occurred, what do you
think should happen to the software that did the corrupting?

A: ) Should it get fixed?
or
B: ) Should it stay broken, and in return for not expending the effort
to fix the underlying rot, you'll accept the next releases 3 new bells
and 4 whistles?

Check the archives and you'll note that file corruption is a frequent
problem. Its as though giving buggy software the label file corruption
absolves the developers of investigating and eliminating the underlying
code bugs.

I've been reporting corruption issues for years and in that time only
one developer (with an oracle email address) ever showed any interest.
Even he dropped off the radar when Oracle lost interest in the office suite.

Does LO provide a needed service? Yes it does, just as a Ford coasting
down a highway provides a service. The difference is that if a Ford gas
tank blew up periodically, Ford would fix it.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc will not save file after sheet deleted.

2011-08-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Please post a new bug-report against LibreOffice rather than against 
OpenOffice.  It stands a good chance of getting soem attention now.  


A lot of stuff just got sat on by Sun forever it seems.  LibreOffice is vastly 
more interested in actually fixing things and TDF doesn't block the devs from 
doing stuff even if they are voluntary devs rather employees.  As long as stuff 
passes quality control it's allowed in.  

Regards from
Tom :)




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On 08/10/2011 12:41 AM, Simon Cropper wrote:
 
 Unless someone recognised these symptoms and can put forward some ideas,
 I am treating this as a corrupt file.


When LO can't read its own handwriting, so to speak, does that not prove
LO has a serious problem?
When you use only the tools provided by LO to manipulate your document
and that document gets trashed due to corruption, does that not prove LO
has a serious problem?

Now that you've concluded that corruption has occurred, what do you
think should happen to the software that did the corrupting?

A: ) Should it get fixed?
or
B: ) Should it stay broken, and in return for not expending the effort
to fix the underlying rot, you'll accept the next releases 3 new bells
and 4 whistles?

Check the archives and you'll note that file corruption is a frequent
problem. Its as though giving buggy software the label file corruption
absolves the developers of investigating and eliminating the underlying
code bugs.

I've been reporting corruption issues for years and in that time only
one developer (with an oracle email address) ever showed any interest.
Even he dropped off the radar when Oracle lost interest in the office suite.

Does LO provide a needed service? Yes it does, just as a Ford coasting
down a highway provides a service. The difference is that if a Ford gas
tank blew up periodically, Ford would fix it.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO showing wrong version in About

2011-08-10 Thread Twayne
In news:1312968701.68269.yahoomai...@web24108.mail.ird.yahoo.com,
Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk typed:
 Hi :)
 The 3.3.3 is the latest stable release.  The 3.4.2 is
 for early adopters, ie development branch, and has
 quite a few extra features with possibly greater success
 at converting docX files.


 Sorry i can't help with the actual question!  Hopefully
 someone else will. Regards from
 Tom :)




 
 From: Jorgo ma...@jorgo.com
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 9:45:12
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] LO showing wrong version in
 About

 Because of recent problems with Calc I updated
 LibreOffice from 3.3.2 to
 3.3.3 to 3.4.2.

 When installing under XP the package
 LibO_3.4.2_Win_x86_install_multi.exe
 the Help/About screen shows wrong information:
 LibreOffice 3.3.2
 OOO330m19 (Build:202)
 tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2

 Is this a bug or a feature? ;-)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How can I build only libreoffice-writer instead of whole office suite ?

2011-08-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
There is a way to open Writer by default rather than the general screen that 
shows the different apps.  It will be slightly different between different 
platforms but at a guess you are using a *nix such as GnuLinux or Bsd?  
Basically you need to have a soft-link/short-cut or something to 


swriter


but i am not sure about the pathname.  The S is leftover from when LibreOffice 
was called StarOffice which was about a decade ago.  

Regards from
Tom :)





From: Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 14:53:13
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How can I build only libreoffice-writer 
instead 
of whole office suite ?

On 08/10/2011 03:37 PM, Partha Chowdhury wrote:
 Hallo all.This is my first post to the list.
 
 I have successfully build libreoffice-3.3.3.1 form source.However, I
 need office only to open and edit word documents and nothing else. So I
 want only to build the writer part and not the whole office.I have
 googled but have not found anything to this effect.The documentation
 covers only building from git and not the individual parts. So is it
 possible only to build a part of libreoffice instead of whole suite ?

There are not parts of LO, each of which performs one of these functions. What 
appear to be separate programs bundled together are simply aspects of a single 
application. So no, one can't have Writer alone


-- Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

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[libreoffice-users] Re: How can I build only libreoffice-writer instead of whole office suite ?

2011-08-10 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 10.08.2011 14:37, Partha Chowdhury wrote:

Hallo all.This is my first post to the list.

I have successfully build libreoffice-3.3.3.1 form source.However, I
need office only to open and edit word documents and nothing else. So I
want only to build the writer part and not the whole office.I have
googled but have not found anything to this effect.The documentation
covers only building from git and not the individual parts. So is it
possible only to build a part of libreoffice instead of whole suite ?




http://abiword.org/
18 MB download, excellent .doc filters.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] How can I build only libreoffice-writer instead of whole office suite ?

2011-08-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
On Ubuntu and just using the package manager i see a separate package called 

libreoffice-writer

but i assume their are a LOT of dependencies that would get pulled in, 
presumably including Calc, Draw, Math but possibly not Base as that one seems 
to 
be handled differently and needs to be installed separately.  


Is ti possible to try an entry-level GnuLinux distro in a VM to see what 
dependencies do get pulled in from the PPA or whatever?  Hmm, it might be 
tricky 
to find one that doesn't include LibreOffice as the default office suite now.
Regards from
Tom :)




From: Partha Chowdhury parthachowdhur...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 13:37:26
Subject: [libreoffice-users] How can I build only libreoffice-writer instead of 
whole office suite ?

Hallo all.This is my first post to the list.

I have successfully build libreoffice-3.3.3.1 form source.However, I need 
office 
only to open and edit word documents and nothing else. So I want only to build 
the writer part and not the whole office.I have googled but have not found 
anything to this effect.The documentation covers only building from git and not 
the individual parts. So is it possible only to build a part of libreoffice 
instead of whole suite ?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How can I build only libreoffice-writer instead of whole officesuite ?

2011-08-10 Thread Onyeibo Oku
Lol!

Very funny ... And very adequate. Why would anybody want to compile just the 
writer component? As in ... COMPILE? If you are using Linux just install writer

Yum install libreoffice-writer


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From: Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 17:19:43 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Reply-To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: How can I build only libreoffice-writer 
instead of whole office
suite ?

Am 10.08.2011 14:37, Partha Chowdhury wrote:
 Hallo all.This is my first post to the list.

 I have successfully build libreoffice-3.3.3.1 form source.However, I
 need office only to open and edit word documents and nothing else. So I
 want only to build the writer part and not the whole office.I have
 googled but have not found anything to this effect.The documentation
 covers only building from git and not the individual parts. So is it
 possible only to build a part of libreoffice instead of whole suite ?



http://abiword.org/
18 MB download, excellent .doc filters.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc will not save file after sheet deleted.

2011-08-10 Thread Bill Gradwohl
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On 08/10/2011 08:24 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Please post a new bug-report against LibreOffice rather than against 
 OpenOffice.  It stands a good chance of getting soem attention now.  
 

I already did:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39930

I'm in the process of once again rewriting my spreadsheet from scratch
and importing my macro code into it. At least 2 days worth of tedious work.

The bug report I submitted was to help someone else avoid my problems in
the future should the underlying root cause of the corruption I'm seeing
get fixed.

A fix won't help me now, as I don't trust the .ods file contents.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How can I build only libreoffice-writer instead of whole officesuite ?

2011-08-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It might be Bsd rather than GnuLinux or it might be one of the more purist 
distros such as a lovingly tended Slackware or Arch that is kept as minimalist 
as possible.  Remember true hi-fi connoisseurs would often prefer an amp that 
had only 1 dial rather than all the extra levels and indicators.  GnuLinux is 
about choosing your own way of doing things.
Regards from
Tom :)





From: Onyeibo Oku twoho...@gmail.com
To: Libre, Users users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 16:43:19
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How can I build only libreoffice-writer 
instead of whole officesuite ?

Lol!

Very funny ... And very adequate. Why would anybody want to compile just the 
writer component? As in ... COMPILE? If you are using Linux just install writer

Yum install libreoffice-writer


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From: Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 17:19:43 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Reply-To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: How can I build only libreoffice-writer 
instead 
of whole office
suite ?

Am 10.08.2011 14:37, Partha Chowdhury wrote:
 Hallo all.This is my first post to the list.

 I have successfully build libreoffice-3.3.3.1 form source.However, I
 need office only to open and edit word documents and nothing else. So I
 want only to build the writer part and not the whole office.I have
 googled but have not found anything to this effect.The documentation
 covers only building from git and not the individual parts. So is it
 possible only to build a part of libreoffice instead of whole suite ?



http://abiword.org/
18 MB download, excellent .doc filters.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: How can I build only libreoffice-writer instead of whole officesuite ?

2011-08-10 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 10.08.2011 17:43, Onyeibo Oku wrote:

Lol!

Very funny ... And very adequate. Why would anybody want to compile just the 
writer component? As in ... COMPILE? If you are using Linux just install writer

Yum install libreoffice-writer


-
from twohot@device.mobile :)



And what do you get when you install Writer only? May be 320 instead of 
350 Megabyte?



I need office only to open and edit word documents and nothing else.


In this case you should install Writer and Abiword. No software can 
interprete word documents perfectly, not even WinWord. Sometimes Abiword 
makes a better guess than LibreOffice.


Refer to http://zamzar.com/ which converts almost any trash into 
something usable.



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[libreoffice-users] unopkg error

2011-08-10 Thread Lars Callenbach
Hello,

I have compiled an addin which works find under openoffice 3.2. Using either 
libreoffice 3.3 or 3.4 the following error message appears:

ERROR: Fehler beim Hinzuf�gen von: 
vnd.sun.star.expand:$UNO_USER_PACKAGES_CACHE/uno_packages/luecz64g.tmp_/CalcAddins.oxt
   Cause: Media-Typ konnte nicht ermittelt werden: 
file:///root/.libreoffice/3/user/uno_packages/cache/uno_packages/luecz64g.tmp_/CalcAddins.oxt

unopkg failed.

The directory CalcAddins.oxt has not been created and the oxt file has not been 
unziped.

What do I have to change to get a working addin using libreoffice?

Regards,
Lars
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[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Calc: Format column titles in DataPilot

2011-08-10 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 10.08.2011 01:57, jorge wrote:

Hi

I suggest you this:

1) Make the pilot data
2) If you format cell orientation (cell of pilot selected), you can
chage the orientation (Vertical in grade that you want, except the first
column). If you want to change the titles of headers, select the cell
and use F2 to do it.
3) If you want to change all the columns headers orientations you can
copy the pilot data to other space or sheet and then change the format
cell orientation (Menu-Format-Cell)



When you do this by means of hard attributes, they will be lost on refresh.
When you do this by means of styles, it applies to the row headers as well.
When you copy the pilot you don't have a refreshable pilot anymore.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How can I build only libreoffice-writer instead of whole officesuite ?

2011-08-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Yes, i liked the suggestion for just installing AbiWord.  

Gnome Office only has a few components but they are good and the AbiWord 
component seems to be exactly what Partha Chowdhury (= the OP) needs.  I think 
it's good when communities work together like this.  I'm not sure that AbiWord 
allows you to easily set the default formats to MS Office ones (ie .doc or 
.docX) which is one reason i prefer Writer but the native OpenDocument Formats 
are more secure and are the same for Gnome Office, LibreOffice/OpenOffice, 
Google-docs and many more too :)
Regards from
Tom :)




From: Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 17:11:11
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: How can I build only libreoffice-writer 
instead 
of whole officesuite ?

Am 10.08.2011 17:43, Onyeibo Oku wrote:
 Lol!
 
 Very funny ... And very adequate. Why would anybody want to compile just the 
writer component? As in ... COMPILE? If you are using Linux just install writer
 
 Yum install libreoffice-writer
 
 
 -
 from twohot@device.mobile :)


And what do you get when you install Writer only? May be 320 instead of 350 
Megabyte?

 I need office only to open and edit word documents and nothing else.

In this case you should install Writer and Abiword. No software can interprete 
word documents perfectly, not even WinWord. Sometimes Abiword makes a better 
guess than LibreOffice.

Refer to http://zamzar.com/ which converts almost any trash into something 
usable.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc will not save file after sheet deleted.

2011-08-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
+1
Hmm, well maybe not the absolute worst.  A sieve or broken floppy disc or an 
ancient format that no program can read might be worse but yes, databases with 
an audit-trail are much more secure and plain text such as Csv ensure that 
there 
will always be some program somewhere that can at least access the data.  

Regards from
Tom :)




From: Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 13:21:23
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc will not save file after sheet deleted.

Am 10.08.2011 01:46, Simon Cropper wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have an old spreadsheet in ODS format. The file was originally an XLS
 file then converted to ODS format several years ago *and* has been used
 weekly over that period without any problems.

Since the days of OpenOffice.org 1.0 I use the same dBase file together with 
Calc data pilots as reporting engine.
I'm pretty sure that this file will take another 50,000 records during the next 
10 years without any problems.

Spreadsheets are the worst data storage, regardless if Excel, ODF or whatever. 
Even a collection of plain text tables is far better than spreadsheets.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] My secret password recovery procedure

2011-08-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
+1
Tpyos do happen and that Caps-Lock is a great example of one that rarely gets 
noticed if what you type is replaced by stars or not visible at all.  It's one 
of the great classics along with waggling the wires or rebooting a Windows 
machine.  I think something else Dennis did fixed this particular problem this 
time tho.  

Regards from
Tom :)




From: Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 3:50:40
Subject: [libreoffice-users] My secret password recovery procedure

Having trouble decrypting that file you saved with a password just yesterday?  
You try your familiar password over and over and are told it is incorrect?

Try changing your Caps Lock setting.

Sometimes when we set the password, the Caps Lock is set wrong but we type the 
password twice exactly the same without noticing.

You'd be surprised how often that happens.

- Dennis


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc will not save file after sheet deleted.

2011-08-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I was wondering if it's to do with permissions of the folder you are trying to 
save into.  In linux systems it's difficult to save in folders such as 

/root
/boot
and sometimes into other users or guests folders on a multi-user system.  I 
have 
a feeling that you have already tried saving into another folder or onto your 
own desktop but i am not certain.  

Regards from
Tom :)




From: Simon Cropper scrop...@botanicusaustralia.com.au
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 1:46:06
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc will not save file after sheet deleted.

On 10/08/11 10:26, Steve Edmonds wrote:
 Hi.

 On 2011-08-10 12:18, Simon Cropper wrote:
 Question -- Check if the file is opened as read only

 No it is not and permissions are all OK.

 Question -- If it is like that you have to save the file with new name
 for changing it.

 The problem occurs on original, copies of original and when
 I try and save as different name.


 On 10/08/11 10:03, jorge wrote:
 Hi

  Check if the file is opened as read only

  If it is like that you have to save the file with new name for
 changing
 it.

 Regards,

 Jorge Rodríguez

 __

 El mié, 10-08-2011 a las 09:46 +1000, Simon Cropper escribió:
 Hi,

 I have an old spreadsheet in ODS format. The file was originally an XLS
 file then converted to ODS format several years ago *and* has been used
 weekly over that period without any problems.

 When I try an delete a sheet from the file I get an error Error saving
 the document FILE: Write Error. The file could not be written.

 If, prior to attempting the sheet removal, I change the contents of a
 cell the file is saved without any problems.

 When the error occurs the saving progress bar appears, moves to ~20%
 completion stops for several seconds, then progresses to ~80%
 completion
 at normal saving speed, stops again for several seconds then crashes.
 This is in contrast to a normal save where the progress bar moves at a
 constant rate for the entire saving process.

 If I attempt to insert a sheet I get the same problem.

 *I should point out* here that the sheet being deleted and inserted are
 mid-file, that is I have 18 tabs and I am trying to delete sheet 7.
 When
 I insert a sheet I am inserting after sheet 7 or 8 (does not really
 matter).

 What I have noticed is if I use the 'add sheet' tab -- that is the last
 tab with the green '+' sign instead of the name to add a sheet; a sheet
 can be added and the document saved. This same sheet can be deleted,
 although the progress bar behaves as if the error is going to happen,
 that is it pauses at 20% and 80% completion; except this time it
 finishes without the error dialog appearing.

 My tests indicate that the last sheet of the original untouched file
 can
 be deleted. Like above the progress bar behaves an unusual way but does
 complete without the error dialog appearing.

 I can not reproduce the error on a new clean file.

 If I work back through the historical copies of the file, I can only
 reproduce the error in this years version. It is as if the file has
 become partially corrupted. The question is how and can it be easily
 fixed.

 Before I spend the time recreating the file from scratch or modifying
 one of the old backups...

 *Has anyone encountered or heard of a similar problem?*

 *Anyone got some ideas?*

 *Is it worth upgrading LibreOffice?*

 I am running LibreOffice 3.4.1 OOO340m1 (Build:103) on Ubuntu 10.04
 LTS.
 The java version used is Sun Microsystems Inc. 1.6.0_26, although I
 have
 also checked and verified the problem occurs on 1.6.0_20 (which just
 happened to be on the system).

 LibreOffice was manually installed from downloaded DEB files *not*
 installed from the LibreOffice PPA repository or the Ubuntu Software
 Centre.

 --
 Cheers Simon

   Simon Cropper
   Principal Consultant
   Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd
   PO Box 160, Sunshine, VIC
   W: www.botanicusaustralia.com.au


 And do you get the same problem if you save as a new name without
 deleting the sheet (so it saves OK) and exit running instances of LO and
 then re-open it.
 Are there references to/from the sheet you deleted from other sheets
 that could be broken and causing problems.
 steve


1. do you get the same problem if you save as a new name without 
deleting the sheet... No. The file saves OK and behaves as per normal 
unless I delete or insert sheet mid-file.

2. Problem persists even if I reboot.

3. Are there references to/from the sheet... Yes, the file is riddled 
with cross-references. That said I have tried deleting sheets that are 
orphaned and the problem still occurs. If I insert a new sheet mid-file, 
the problem still occurs. I can chomp off the last sheet, which is 
cross-referenced in several locations elsewhere in the file and the 
problem *does not occur*.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Calc: Format column titles in DataPilot

2011-08-10 Thread JOE Conner

On 8/10/2011 1:06 AM, Cor Nouws wrote:

Hi Joe,

JOE Conner wrote (09-08-11 23:04)


*One thing I noticed right away - there is a serious bug when changing
orientations, in that it is difficult to keep the text within the cell.
As I was rotating the text it would often bounce into the adjoining
cell. It seems that the text alignment feature does not extend to
rotated text, and chooses any random alignment.*


In the section Rotation, you can choose the reference boarder too.


True, the selection is possible.  However selecting a different
edge does not have the desired effect.  In fact, the effects are
unpredictable and illogical.

A true bug.

Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Calc: Format column titles in DataPilot

2011-08-10 Thread Cor Nouws

JOE Conner wrote (10-08-11 20:15)

On 8/10/2011 1:06 AM, Cor Nouws wrote:

JOE Conner wrote (09-08-11 23:04)


*One thing I noticed right away - there is a serious bug when changing
orientations, in that it is difficult to keep the text within the cell.
As I was rotating the text it would often bounce into the adjoining
cell. It seems that the text alignment feature does not extend to
rotated text, and chooses any random alignment.*


In the section Rotation, you can choose the reference boarder too.


True, the selection is possible. However selecting a different
edge does not have the desired effect. In fact, the effects are
unpredictable and illogical.


Might well be - I did not use it often. Though from the last times I 
remember, I could cope with it.



A true bug.


Might well be too - could you please be so kind to find out what works 
and what not, a sort of pattern, and file a bug with that :-)


Thanks,


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[libreoffice-users] Re: How can I build only libreoffice-writer instead of whole officesuite ?

2011-08-10 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 10.08.2011 18:24, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Yes, i liked the suggestion for just installing AbiWord.

Gnome Office only has a few components but they are good and the AbiWord
component seems to be exactly what Partha Chowdhury (= the OP) needs.  I think
it's good when communities work together like this.  I'm not sure that AbiWord
allows you to easily set the default formats to MS Office ones (ie .doc or
.docX) which is one reason i prefer Writer but the native OpenDocument Formats
are more secure and are the same for Gnome Office, LibreOffice/OpenOffice,
Google-docs and many more too :)
Regards from
Tom :)



Hi,
I never work in any file format other than the respective application's 
native file format.
While working with *.doc subtile formatting errors may increase with 
every save.
When I receive *.doc per mail, I use to open the attachment, save a 
local copy as odt, edit and save that one, and finally I send back my 
version using FileSendEmail as doc or FileSendEmail as PDF (final 
version).



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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Calc: Format column titles in DataPilot

2011-08-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Here is the guide for posting bug-reports.  
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport
Note that it is a guide only, not a set of rules.  If you can't follow all of 
it 
the just post as the devs can always ask for extra info if they really need it.
Regards from
Tom :)




From: JOE Conner joeconner2...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 19:15:59
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Calc: Format column titles in 
DataPilot

On 8/10/2011 1:06 AM, Cor Nouws wrote:
 Hi Joe,

 JOE Conner wrote (09-08-11 23:04)

 *One thing I noticed right away - there is a serious bug when changing
 orientations, in that it is difficult to keep the text within the cell.
 As I was rotating the text it would often bounce into the adjoining
 cell. It seems that the text alignment feature does not extend to
 rotated text, and chooses any random alignment.*

 In the section Rotation, you can choose the reference boarder too.

True, the selection is possible.  However selecting a different
edge does not have the desired effect.  In fact, the effects are
unpredictable and illogical.

A true bug.

Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA

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Re: [libreoffice-users] new book

2011-08-10 Thread Lynn Wilde
Same here.  It's really annoying.





From: Gail Dawson johngail5...@att.net
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, August 9, 2011 6:51:55 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] new book

Please someone tell me how do I get out of this forum?  I am receiving hundreds 
of emails a day about LibreOffice.  I can't remember how I got in.
Again, please help me get out of this forum.

Thanks,
Gail Dawson
On Aug 9, 2011, at 8:06 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi :)
 Pages in any word-processing format often display different between one 
machine
 and another due to, for example, printer settings.  Pdf is a format that
 displays the same on every machine but not if it's made after changes have
 occurred. The proper Pdfs are available for download
 
 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Tue, 9 August, 2011 12:35:34
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] new book
 
 2011/8/5 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org:
 I am actively adding content to this release of the book. I am currently
 working through the Calc section. When I finish with that, I will move on to
 the next section, which is not yet in the document. The German translation
 is on chapter 7 I believe.
 
 Great book. I downloaded it and exported it to PDF. I found a strange
 page break however, on page 488 (PDF version) or 487 (ODF version).
 Just thought you wanted to know…
 
 I also wonder why the page numbers of the PDF (the one I exported to
 myself) are not the same as those on the ODF, but that has probably
 nothing to do with the document itself.
 
 
 
 Kind regards
 
 Johnny Rosenberg
 ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
 
 On 08/05/2011 08:49 AM, rogerio dandrea wrote:
 
 new book
 
 http://www.pitonyak.org/OOME_3_0.odt
 
 :0)   thanks Pitonyak  for the excellent work
 
 :0) From Brazil
 
 
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 My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
 Info:  http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] new book

2011-08-10 Thread Onyeibo Oku
Read the footer on your message sir.
It answers your question, I think?


-
from twohot@device.mobile :)

-Original Message-
From: Lynn Wilde life48dan...@att.net
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 12:58:12 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Reply-To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] new book

Same here.  It's really annoying.





From: Gail Dawson johngail5...@att.net
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, August 9, 2011 6:51:55 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] new book

Please someone tell me how do I get out of this forum?  I am receiving hundreds 
of emails a day about LibreOffice.  I can't remember how I got in.
Again, please help me get out of this forum.

Thanks,
Gail Dawson
On Aug 9, 2011, at 8:06 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi :)
 Pages in any word-processing format often display different between one 
machine
 and another due to, for example, printer settings.  Pdf is a format that
 displays the same on every machine but not if it's made after changes have
 occurred. The proper Pdfs are available for download
 
 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Tue, 9 August, 2011 12:35:34
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] new book
 
 2011/8/5 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org:
 I am actively adding content to this release of the book. I am currently
 working through the Calc section. When I finish with that, I will move on to
 the next section, which is not yet in the document. The German translation
 is on chapter 7 I believe.
 
 Great book. I downloaded it and exported it to PDF. I found a strange
 page break however, on page 488 (PDF version) or 487 (ODF version).
 Just thought you wanted to know…
 
 I also wonder why the page numbers of the PDF (the one I exported to
 myself) are not the same as those on the ODF, but that has probably
 nothing to do with the document itself.
 
 
 
 Kind regards
 
 Johnny Rosenberg
 ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
 
 On 08/05/2011 08:49 AM, rogerio dandrea wrote:
 
 new book
 
 http://www.pitonyak.org/OOME_3_0.odt
 
 :0)   thanks Pitonyak  for the excellent work
 
 :0) From Brazil
 
 
 --
 Andrew Pitonyak
 My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
 Info:  http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] new book

2011-08-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
There is a guide here
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
It has been unusually busy over the last 7 days and was unusually quiet for 
about a fortnight before that.  

Regards from
Tom :)




From: Lynn Wilde life48dan...@att.net
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 20:58:12
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] new book

Same here.  It's really annoying.





From: Gail Dawson johngail5...@att.net
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, August 9, 2011 6:51:55 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] new book

Please someone tell me how do I get out of this forum?  I am receiving hundreds 
of emails a day about LibreOffice.  I can't remember how I got in.
Again, please help me get out of this forum.

Thanks,
Gail Dawson
On Aug 9, 2011, at 8:06 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi :)
 Pages in any word-processing format often display different between one 
machine
 and another due to, for example, printer settings.  Pdf is a format that
 displays the same on every machine but not if it's made after changes have
 occurred. The proper Pdfs are available for download
 
 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Tue, 9 August, 2011 12:35:34
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] new book
 
 2011/8/5 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org:
 I am actively adding content to this release of the book. I am currently
 working through the Calc section. When I finish with that, I will move on to
 the next section, which is not yet in the document. The German translation
 is on chapter 7 I believe.
 
 Great book. I downloaded it and exported it to PDF. I found a strange
 page break however, on page 488 (PDF version) or 487 (ODF version).
 Just thought you wanted to know…
 
 I also wonder why the page numbers of the PDF (the one I exported to
 myself) are not the same as those on the ODF, but that has probably
 nothing to do with the document itself.
 
 
 
 Kind regards
 
 Johnny Rosenberg
 ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
 
 On 08/05/2011 08:49 AM, rogerio dandrea wrote:
 
 new book
 
 http://www.pitonyak.org/OOME_3_0.odt
 
 :0)   thanks Pitonyak  for the excellent work
 
 :0) From Brazil
 
 
 --
 Andrew Pitonyak
 My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
 Info:  http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] new book

2011-08-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-08-10 3:58 PM, Lynn Wilde life48dan...@att.net wrote:
 Same here.  It's really annoying.

What is really annoying is people who cannot take 2 seconds and read the
instructions that are included at the bottom of every message they get
on a mail list, but choose to whine and complain on the list like little
children.

Grow up. Learn how to interact online, or GET OFF THE NET.

 
 From: Gail Dawson johngail5...@att.net
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Tue, August 9, 2011 6:51:55 AM
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] new book
 
 Please someone tell me how do I get out of this forum?  I am receiving 
 hundreds 
 of emails a day about LibreOffice.  I can't remember how I got in.
 Again, please help me get out of this forum.
 
 Thanks,
 Gail Dawson
 On Aug 9, 2011, at 8:06 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 
 Hi :)
 Pages in any word-processing format often display different between one 
 machine
 and another due to, for example, printer settings.  Pdf is a format that
 displays the same on every machine but not if it's made after changes have
 occurred. The proper Pdfs are available for download

 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
 Regards from
 Tom :)




 
 From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Tue, 9 August, 2011 12:35:34
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] new book

 2011/8/5 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org:
 I am actively adding content to this release of the book. I am currently
 working through the Calc section. When I finish with that, I will move on to
 the next section, which is not yet in the document. The German translation
 is on chapter 7 I believe.

 Great book. I downloaded it and exported it to PDF. I found a strange
 page break however, on page 488 (PDF version) or 487 (ODF version).
 Just thought you wanted to know…

 I also wonder why the page numbers of the PDF (the one I exported to
 myself) are not the same as those on the ODF, but that has probably
 nothing to do with the document itself.



 Kind regards

 Johnny Rosenberg
 ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ

 On 08/05/2011 08:49 AM, rogerio dandrea wrote:

 new book

 http://www.pitonyak.org/OOME_3_0.odt

 :0)   thanks Pitonyak  for the excellent work

 :0) From Brazil


 --
 Andrew Pitonyak
 My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
 Info:  http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php


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Re: [libreoffice-users] new book

2011-08-10 Thread Roland Hughes
And this is why bottom posting creatures are being weeded out of the
gene pool.  Soon we will have a genetics test so they can be eliminated
prior to birth.

You don't see this because it is at the bottom:  For unsubscribe
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Where nobody )(*)(*)_ing looks


On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 12:58 -0700, Lynn Wilde wrote:

 Same here.  It's really annoying.
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Gail Dawson johngail5...@att.net
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Tue, August 9, 2011 6:51:55 AM
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] new book
 
 Please someone tell me how do I get out of this forum?  I am receiving 
 hundreds 
 of emails a day about LibreOffice.  I can't remember how I got in.
 Again, please help me get out of this forum.
 
 Thanks,
 Gail Dawson
 On Aug 9, 2011, at 8:06 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 
  Hi :)
  Pages in any word-processing format often display different between one 
 machine
  and another due to, for example, printer settings.  Pdf is a format that
  displays the same on every machine but not if it's made after changes have
  occurred. The proper Pdfs are available for download
  
  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
  Regards from
  Tom :)
  
  
  
  
  
  From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Sent: Tue, 9 August, 2011 12:35:34
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] new book
  
  2011/8/5 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org:
  I am actively adding content to this release of the book. I am currently
  working through the Calc section. When I finish with that, I will move on 
  to
  the next section, which is not yet in the document. The German translation
  is on chapter 7 I believe.
  
  Great book. I downloaded it and exported it to PDF. I found a strange
  page break however, on page 488 (PDF version) or 487 (ODF version).
  Just thought you wanted to know…
  
  I also wonder why the page numbers of the PDF (the one I exported to
  myself) are not the same as those on the ODF, but that has probably
  nothing to do with the document itself.
  
  
  
  Kind regards
  
  Johnny Rosenberg
  ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
  
  On 08/05/2011 08:49 AM, rogerio dandrea wrote:
  
  new book
  
  http://www.pitonyak.org/OOME_3_0.odt
  
  :0)   thanks Pitonyak  for the excellent work
  
  :0) From Brazil
  
  
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Re: [libreoffice-users] new book

2011-08-10 Thread Roland Hughes
That's because real human beings don't read the bottom of any on-line
message.  There are only a handful of genetically inferior bottom
posting dinosaurs left on the face of the planet and soon this problem
will passand given enough time below ground they'll turn into crude
which we can make gas and oil out of


On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 16:31 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:

 On 2011-08-10 3:58 PM, Lynn Wilde life48dan...@att.net wrote:
  Same here.  It's really annoying.
 
 What is really annoying is people who cannot take 2 seconds and read the
 instructions that are included at the bottom of every message they get
 on a mail list, but choose to whine and complain on the list like little
 children.
 
 Grow up. Learn how to interact online, or GET OFF THE NET.
 
  
  From: Gail Dawson johngail5...@att.net
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Sent: Tue, August 9, 2011 6:51:55 AM
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] new book
  
  Please someone tell me how do I get out of this forum?  I am receiving 
  hundreds 
  of emails a day about LibreOffice.  I can't remember how I got in.
  Again, please help me get out of this forum.
  
  Thanks,
  Gail Dawson
  On Aug 9, 2011, at 8:06 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
  
  Hi :)
  Pages in any word-processing format often display different between one 
  machine
  and another due to, for example, printer settings.  Pdf is a format that
  displays the same on every machine but not if it's made after changes have
  occurred. The proper Pdfs are available for download
 
  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
 
 
 
  
  From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Sent: Tue, 9 August, 2011 12:35:34
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] new book
 
  2011/8/5 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org:
  I am actively adding content to this release of the book. I am currently
  working through the Calc section. When I finish with that, I will move on 
  to
  the next section, which is not yet in the document. The German translation
  is on chapter 7 I believe.
 
  Great book. I downloaded it and exported it to PDF. I found a strange
  page break however, on page 488 (PDF version) or 487 (ODF version).
  Just thought you wanted to know…
 
  I also wonder why the page numbers of the PDF (the one I exported to
  myself) are not the same as those on the ODF, but that has probably
  nothing to do with the document itself.
 
 
 
  Kind regards
 
  Johnny Rosenberg
  ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
 
  On 08/05/2011 08:49 AM, rogerio dandrea wrote:
 
  new book
 
  http://www.pitonyak.org/OOME_3_0.odt
 
  :0)   thanks Pitonyak  for the excellent work
 
  :0) From Brazil
 
 
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[libreoffice-users] Print in reverse page order missing for LibreOffice 3.4.2?

2011-08-10 Thread brad
Hi.  I'm trying to switch from OpenOffice.org 3.3.0 to LibreOffice 3.4.2;
both installations on my Linux 2.6.28.6 system.

When I do a File-Print on OpenOffice the 'Options' tab has four listed
options; the second last is this:

  []  Print in reverse page order

But the same tab with LibreOffice doesn't have that option for its 'Options'
tab (it just has the other three).

In both cases with the same system printer selected.

The option just seems to have disappeared with LibreOffice 3.4.2.  I've done
a search in the LibreOffice-Users forum and couldn't find any discussion on
it.  The LibreOffice help page references the option
(http://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Printing_in_Reverse_Order) as if it
should be there.

Can anyone tell me what happened to the option with LibreOffice 3.4.2?  I
rely on the 'reverse page order' option so I can do a poor-man's duplex
printing (printing the 'left pages' of my documents on one side of the
paper, then feeding the sheets back into the non-duplex printer for the
'right pages').  Thanks!

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc will not save file after sheet deleted.

2011-08-10 Thread Simon Cropper

On 11/08/11 00:10, Bill Gradwohl wrote:

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On 08/10/2011 12:41 AM, Simon Cropper wrote:


Unless someone recognised these symptoms and can put forward some ideas,
I am treating this as a corrupt file.



When LO can't read its own handwriting, so to speak, does that not prove
LO has a serious problem?
When you use only the tools provided by LO to manipulate your document
and that document gets trashed due to corruption, does that not prove LO
has a serious problem?

Now that you've concluded that corruption has occurred, what do you
think should happen to the software that did the corrupting?

A: ) Should it get fixed?
or
B: ) Should it stay broken, and in return for not expending the effort
to fix the underlying rot, you'll accept the next releases 3 new bells
and 4 whistles?

Check the archives and you'll note that file corruption is a frequent
problem. Its as though giving buggy software the label file corruption
absolves the developers of investigating and eliminating the underlying
code bugs.

I've been reporting corruption issues for years and in that time only
one developer (with an oracle email address) ever showed any interest.
Even he dropped off the radar when Oracle lost interest in the office suite.

Does LO provide a needed service? Yes it does, just as a Ford coasting
down a highway provides a service. The difference is that if a Ford gas
tank blew up periodically, Ford would fix it.

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Bill,

It is obvious that you do not like OO or LO Calc, and that you don't 
like the fact that your data is continually corrupted.


You also say you continuously have to rebuild your spreadsheet and that 
the process can take several days.


If you are so unhappy with the format, corruption and dirty code, my 
question is why do you persist? Change packages. With the time and 
effort you have already put into recreating corrupted spreadsheets you 
could of written your own application or mastered alternative packages.


I am not trying to be rude here it just if I had a package that caused 
me so much wasted time I would just move on.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Calc: Format column titles in DataPilot

2011-08-10 Thread jorge
Hi

I'm sorry but I made an example with Style and the first column header
(Title) wasn't changed. Besides, I refreshed the pilot table and lost
the headers format.  

What did I wrong ?

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez





El mié, 10-08-2011 a las 13:48 +0200, Andreas Säger escribió:
 Am 10.08.2011 01:57, jorge wrote:
  Hi
 
  I suggest you this:
 
  1) Make the pilot data
  2) If you format cell orientation (cell of pilot selected), you can
  chage the orientation (Vertical in grade that you want, except the first
  column). If you want to change the titles of headers, select the cell
  and use F2 to do it.
  3) If you want to change all the columns headers orientations you can
  copy the pilot data to other space or sheet and then change the format
  cell orientation (Menu-Format-Cell)
 
 
 When you do this by means of hard attributes, they will be lost on refresh.
 When you do this by means of styles, it applies to the row headers as well.
 When you copy the pilot you don't have a refreshable pilot anymore.
 
 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Print in reverse page order missing for LibreOffice 3.4.2?

2011-08-10 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi brad,

brad schrieb:

[..]


Can anyone tell me what happened to the option with LibreOffice 3.4.2?  I
rely on the 'reverse page order' option so I can do a poor-man's duplex
printing (printing the 'left pages' of my documents on one side of the
paper, then feeding the sheets back into the non-duplex printer for the
'right pages').  Thanks!


It has been moved to the first tab, the tab General, so that you can 
reach it immediately :)


Kind regards
Regina

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc will not save file after sheet deleted.

2011-08-10 Thread Simon Cropper

On 11/08/11 02:53, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hmm, well maybe not the absolute worst.  A sieve or broken
 floppy disc or an ancient format that no program can read
 might be worse but yes, databases with an audit-trail are
 much more secure and plain text such as Csv ensure that there
 will always be some program somewhere that can at least
 access the data.

I agree but there are no good front ends to the myriad of relational 
database backends that you can utilise on Linux.


I could list tons of SQL engines but as the copious posts on this list 
about Base attest, there are few decent alternatives for Rapid 
Application Development, Data Mining or even simple application 
development available; let alone something that can be integrated into LO.


When working on Windows I use Microsoft Visual Foxpro. Fantastic package 
but now discontinued (and I have moved my primary platform to Ubuntu 
now!). There is absolutely nothing comparable to it on Linux. You either 
have to write a complete application every time you want to do something 
(e.g. Python+wxPython; Dabo) or need to poke at a SQL file from the 
command line.


If I could recreate my spreadsheet in a database format that allowed me 
to quickly develop and easily maintain an application -- I would be 
developing it now.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc will not save file after sheet deleted.

2011-08-10 Thread planas
Simon

On Thu, 2011-08-11 at 09:38 +1000, Simon Cropper wrote: 

 On 11/08/11 02:53, Tom Davies wrote:
   Hmm, well maybe not the absolute worst.  A sieve or broken
   floppy disc or an ancient format that no program can read
   might be worse but yes, databases with an audit-trail are
   much more secure and plain text such as Csv ensure that there
   will always be some program somewhere that can at least
   access the data.
 
 I agree but there are no good front ends to the myriad of relational 
 database backends that you can utilise on Linux.
 
 I could list tons of SQL engines but as the copious posts on this list 
 about Base attest, there are few decent alternatives for Rapid 
 Application Development, Data Mining or even simple application 
 development available; let alone something that can be integrated into LO.
 
 When working on Windows I use Microsoft Visual Foxpro. Fantastic package 
 but now discontinued (and I have moved my primary platform to Ubuntu 
 now!). There is absolutely nothing comparable to it on Linux. You either 
 have to write a complete application every time you want to do something 
 (e.g. Python+wxPython; Dabo) or need to poke at a SQL file from the 
 command line.
 
 If I could recreate my spreadsheet in a database format that allowed me 
 to quickly develop and easily maintain an application -- I would be 
 developing it now.
 
 -- 
 Cheers Simon
 
 Simon Cropper
 Principal Consultant
 Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd
 PO Box 160, Sunshine, VIC
 W: www.botanicusaustralia.com.au
 

Both MySQL/MariaFB and Postgresql have GUI interfaces available for
Linux , MySQL Worbench from the MySQL site and pgadmin for Postgresql in
the Ubuntu repository. Both allow a users to most of the db work in a
desktop environment not CLI.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc will not save file after sheet deleted.

2011-08-10 Thread Simon Cropper

On 11/08/11 09:47, planas wrote:

Simon

On Thu, 2011-08-11 at 09:38 +1000, Simon Cropper wrote:


On 11/08/11 02:53, Tom Davies wrote:
Hmm, well maybe not the absolute worst.  A sieve or broken
floppy disc or an ancient format that no program can read
might be worse but yes, databases with an audit-trail are
much more secure and plain text such as Csv ensure that there
will always be some program somewhere that can at least
access the data.

I agree but there are no good front ends to the myriad of relational
database backends that you can utilise on Linux.

I could list tons of SQL engines but as the copious posts on this list
about Base attest, there are few decent alternatives for Rapid
Application Development, Data Mining or even simple application
development available; let alone something that can be integrated into LO.

When working on Windows I use Microsoft Visual Foxpro. Fantastic package
but now discontinued (and I have moved my primary platform to Ubuntu
now!). There is absolutely nothing comparable to it on Linux. You either
have to write a complete application every time you want to do something
(e.g. Python+wxPython; Dabo) or need to poke at a SQL file from the
command line.

If I could recreate my spreadsheet in a database format that allowed me
to quickly develop and easily maintain an application -- I would be
developing it now.

--
Cheers Simon


Both MySQL/MariaFB and Postgresql have GUI interfaces available for
Linux , MySQL Worbench from the MySQL site and pgadmin for Postgresql in
the Ubuntu repository. Both allow a users to most of the db work in a
desktop environment not CLI.



All these packages are administration utilities not RAD or Data Mining 
environments.


MySQL Workbench is a visual database design tool that is developed by 
MySQL. It is the successor application of the DBDesigner4 project.

http://wb.mysql.com/?page_id=28

pgAdmin is designed to answer the needs of all users, from writing 
simple SQL queries to developing complex databases. The graphical 
interface supports all PostgreSQL features and makes administration 
easy. The application also includes a syntax highlighting SQL editor, a 
server-side code editor, http://www.pgadmin.org/


Data mining allows the 'researcher' to import, export, convert, merge 
and manipulate data for a particular project, and maintain the original 
data and any derivatives.


RAD allows, at minimum, input forms, menues and reports. Ideally a 
programming language should be available to manipulate the data and user 
experience.


Granted I should have been more careful with my choice of words. All 
these packages do provide simple GUI interfaces that allow you to design 
and query a database created with the respective tool. Some projects do 
provide some import and export facilities for use in a once-off 
situation. BUT they are not really designed as RAD tools or provide you 
with the *easy* ability to collate disparate data sources, manipulate 
this information and export it again.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc will not save file after sheet deleted.

2011-08-10 Thread NoOp
On 08/10/2011 04:38 PM, Simon Cropper wrote:
...
 
 If I could recreate my spreadsheet in a database format that allowed me 
 to quickly develop and easily maintain an application -- I would be 
 developing it now.
 

Pick OS
We used to sell it when I was based in Australia (McDonnell
Douglas/Microdata).

Too bad Dick Pick isn't still around :-)




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc will not save file after sheet deleted.

2011-08-10 Thread Simon Cropper

Tom,

I have checked all these issues. Permissions, folder permissions, 
owner/grp attributes have all been checked.


As stated I can turn the save / no-save behaviour on and off with 
deletion or reinsertion of comments into the sheet. If the file was read 
only or write protected then this could not be done.


No harm asking though :)

On 11/08/11 03:23, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I was wondering if it's to do with permissions of the folder you are trying to
save into.  In linux systems it's difficult to save in folders such as

/root
/boot
and sometimes into other users or guests folders on a multi-user system.  I have
a feeling that you have already tried saving into another folder or onto your
own desktop but i am not certain.

Regards from
Tom :)




From: Simon Cropperscrop...@botanicusaustralia.com.au
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 1:46:06
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc will not save file after sheet deleted.

On 10/08/11 10:26, Steve Edmonds wrote:

Hi.

On 2011-08-10 12:18, Simon Cropper wrote:

Question -- Check if the file is opened as read only

 No it is not and permissions are all OK.

Question -- If it is like that you have to save the file with new name
for changing it.

 The problem occurs on original, copies of original and when
 I try and save as different name.


On 10/08/11 10:03, jorge wrote:

Hi

  Check if the file is opened as read only

  If it is like that you have to save the file with new name for
changing
it.

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez

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El mié, 10-08-2011 a las 09:46 +1000, Simon Cropper escribió:

Hi,

I have an old spreadsheet in ODS format. The file was originally an XLS
file then converted to ODS format several years ago *and* has been used
weekly over that period without any problems.

When I try an delete a sheet from the file I get an error Error saving
the document FILE: Write Error. The file could not be written.

If, prior to attempting the sheet removal, I change the contents of a
cell the file is saved without any problems.

When the error occurs the saving progress bar appears, moves to ~20%
completion stops for several seconds, then progresses to ~80%
completion
at normal saving speed, stops again for several seconds then crashes.
This is in contrast to a normal save where the progress bar moves at a
constant rate for the entire saving process.

If I attempt to insert a sheet I get the same problem.

*I should point out* here that the sheet being deleted and inserted are
mid-file, that is I have 18 tabs and I am trying to delete sheet 7.
When
I insert a sheet I am inserting after sheet 7 or 8 (does not really
matter).

What I have noticed is if I use the 'add sheet' tab -- that is the last
tab with the green '+' sign instead of the name to add a sheet; a sheet
can be added and the document saved. This same sheet can be deleted,
although the progress bar behaves as if the error is going to happen,
that is it pauses at 20% and 80% completion; except this time it
finishes without the error dialog appearing.

My tests indicate that the last sheet of the original untouched file
can
be deleted. Like above the progress bar behaves an unusual way but does
complete without the error dialog appearing.

I can not reproduce the error on a new clean file.

If I work back through the historical copies of the file, I can only
reproduce the error in this years version. It is as if the file has
become partially corrupted. The question is how and can it be easily
fixed.

Before I spend the time recreating the file from scratch or modifying
one of the old backups...

*Has anyone encountered or heard of a similar problem?*

*Anyone got some ideas?*

*Is it worth upgrading LibreOffice?*

I am running LibreOffice 3.4.1 OOO340m1 (Build:103) on Ubuntu 10.04
LTS.
The java version used is Sun Microsystems Inc. 1.6.0_26, although I
have
also checked and verified the problem occurs on 1.6.0_20 (which just
happened to be on the system).

LibreOffice was manually installed from downloaded DEB files *not*
installed from the LibreOffice PPA repository or the Ubuntu Software
Centre.

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   PO Box 160, Sunshine, VIC
   W: www.botanicusaustralia.com.au




And do you get the same problem if you save as a new name without
deleting the sheet (so it saves OK) and exit running instances of LO and
then re-open it.
Are there references to/from the sheet you deleted from other sheets
that could be broken and causing problems.
steve



1. do you get the same problem if you save as a new name without
deleting the sheet... No. The file saves OK and behaves as per normal
unless I delete or insert sheet mid-file.

2. Problem persists even if I reboot.

3. Are there references to/from the sheet... Yes, the file is riddled
with cross-references. That said I have tried deleting sheets that are
orphaned and 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc will not save file after sheet deleted.

2011-08-10 Thread planas
Simon

On Thu, 2011-08-11 at 10:30 +1000, Simon Cropper wrote: 

 On 11/08/11 09:47, planas wrote:
  Simon
 
  On Thu, 2011-08-11 at 09:38 +1000, Simon Cropper wrote:
 
  On 11/08/11 02:53, Tom Davies wrote:
  Hmm, well maybe not the absolute worst.  A sieve or broken
  floppy disc or an ancient format that no program can read
  might be worse but yes, databases with an audit-trail are
  much more secure and plain text such as Csv ensure that there
  will always be some program somewhere that can at least
  access the data.
 
  I agree but there are no good front ends to the myriad of relational
  database backends that you can utilise on Linux.
 
  I could list tons of SQL engines but as the copious posts on this list
  about Base attest, there are few decent alternatives for Rapid
  Application Development, Data Mining or even simple application
  development available; let alone something that can be integrated into LO.
 
  When working on Windows I use Microsoft Visual Foxpro. Fantastic package
  but now discontinued (and I have moved my primary platform to Ubuntu
  now!). There is absolutely nothing comparable to it on Linux. You either
  have to write a complete application every time you want to do something
  (e.g. Python+wxPython; Dabo) or need to poke at a SQL file from the
  command line.
 
  If I could recreate my spreadsheet in a database format that allowed me
  to quickly develop and easily maintain an application -- I would be
  developing it now.
 
  --
  Cheers Simon
 
  Both MySQL/MariaFB and Postgresql have GUI interfaces available for
  Linux , MySQL Worbench from the MySQL site and pgadmin for Postgresql in
  the Ubuntu repository. Both allow a users to most of the db work in a
  desktop environment not CLI.
 
 
 All these packages are administration utilities not RAD or Data Mining 
 environments.
 
 MySQL Workbench is a visual database design tool that is developed by 
 MySQL. It is the successor application of the DBDesigner4 project.
 http://wb.mysql.com/?page_id=28
 
 pgAdmin is designed to answer the needs of all users, from writing 
 simple SQL queries to developing complex databases. The graphical 
 interface supports all PostgreSQL features and makes administration 
 easy. The application also includes a syntax highlighting SQL editor, a 
 server-side code editor, http://www.pgadmin.org/
 
 Data mining allows the 'researcher' to import, export, convert, merge 
 and manipulate data for a particular project, and maintain the original 
 data and any derivatives.
 
 RAD allows, at minimum, input forms, menues and reports. Ideally a 
 programming language should be available to manipulate the data and user 
 experience.
 
 Granted I should have been more careful with my choice of words. All 
 these packages do provide simple GUI interfaces that allow you to design 
 and query a database created with the respective tool. Some projects do 
 provide some import and export facilities for use in a once-off 
 situation. BUT they are not really designed as RAD tools or provide you 
 with the *easy* ability to collate disparate data sources, manipulate 
 this information and export it again.
 
 -- 
 Cheers Simon
 
 Simon Cropper
 Principal Consultant
 Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd
 PO Box 160, Sunshine, VIC
 W: www.botanicusaustralia.com.au
 

I should read more closely sometimes. 

I would think the problem with data mining is determine what bits might
be yield nuggets out of the mass. 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc will not save file after sheet deleted.

2011-08-10 Thread Simon Cropper

On 11/08/11 10:57, NoOp wrote:

On 08/10/2011 04:38 PM, Simon Cropper wrote:
...


If I could recreate my spreadsheet in a database format that allowed me
to quickly develop and easily maintain an application -- I would be
developing it now.



Pick OS
We used to sell it when I was based in Australia (McDonnell
Douglas/Microdata).

Too bad Dick Pick isn't still around :-)






I have not used Pick. I have used Revelation before, which is a 
derivative of this system. Not bad but still Windows based and files in 
proprietary format.


The beauty of dbase files was for a long time they were the default 
'desktop' (rather than server style) database format. Information stored 
in this format was accessible by a wide variety of packages (foxbase, 
foxpro, dBaseIII/IV, Clipper, Paradox, ...).


Dbase files are old school now. The closest format is sqlite. This 
relational database system is serverless making it portable and able to 
be maintained in a similar fashion to the dissociated project based 
tables that formed part of the dbase database. But alais no packages are 
around that provide the functionality I desire.


Before anyone tells me I am aware of 'sqlite data browser' and sqliteman 
and the firefox addon. All useful to query and maintain files but not 
good for data mining or RAD.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] unopkg error

2011-08-10 Thread planas
Lars,

On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 09:22 +0200, Lars Callenbach wrote: 

 Hello,
 
 I have compiled an addin which works find under openoffice 3.2. Using either 
 libreoffice 3.3 or 3.4 the following error message appears:
 
 ERROR: Fehler beim Hinzuf�gen von: 
 vnd.sun.star.expand:$UNO_USER_PACKAGES_CACHE/uno_packages/luecz64g.tmp_/CalcAddins.oxt
Cause: Media-Typ konnte nicht ermittelt werden: 
 file:///root/.libreoffice/3/user/uno_packages/cache/uno_packages/luecz64g.tmp_/CalcAddins.oxt
 
 unopkg failed.
 
 The directory CalcAddins.oxt has not been created and the oxt file has not 
 been unziped.
 
 What do I have to change to get a working addin using libreoffice?
 
 Regards,
 Lars
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I would check OOo to see if they have an updated version and check
http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:OpenOfficeExtensions/List and
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Downloads/Templates . Plugins, unless
they are official ones, may lag the release somewhat some if they need
significant changes they may not work with the latest version.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Macro not active when the document start

2011-08-10 Thread toto
The macro is active, but the function in the cell not active. Somehow I 
have to change the function variable with another value then I have to 
change it back again. So in the cell if I put =ubah(E7) I have to 
change it to =ubah(100) and then change it back again to =ubah(E7) 
to get the result that I want.


On 08/10/2011 03:16 PM, Cor Nouws wrote:


toto wrote (10-08-11 09:23)

I'm using macro's function and it doesn't start when the document start.


You can change that via Tools  Customize  Events.
Find the OnOpen event and link it to the macro for the document.

Regards,





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc will not save file after sheet deleted [SOLUTION]

2011-08-10 Thread Simon Cropper

On 10/08/11 16:41, Simon Cropper wrote:

*The upshot*

Unless someone recognised these symptoms and can put forward some ideas,
I am treating this as a corrupt file. I have drawn this conclusion
because (a) I can only reproduce the error on the effected file, (b) the
comment insert/delete trick is suggestive but not consistent (or at
least from what I can tell) - random sheets cause the file save error if
comments are inserted; inserting comments into new sheets also trigger
the error.

I just hope that recreating this file does not corrupt the new file as I
will need to copy blocks of text, numbers and formulas.



*My attempts at recreating a clean file*

ATTEMPT 1

Created a new file with one less tab. All tabs were named the same as 
the original. I then cut-and-paste all the data from the original to 
this newly created file. This took about 10 minutes.


The problem is that all tab / sheet references after the omitted sheet 
moved across one. Despite the formula referencing the sheet name, the 
name is actually just a human readable cue for the underlying sheet 
number. So sheet Accounts (sheet #17 on the original file), which 
pointed to 'accounts lookup list' now points to the Tax sheet, which was 
#18 but is now #17 in the new file.


ATTEMPT 2

Created a new file with exactly the same number of tabs.  All tabs were 
named the same as the original. I then cut-and-paste all the data from 
the original to this newly created file. This took about 10 minutes.


Then with baited breath I deleted the unrequired sheet that triggered 
this journey in the first place and clicked save. *It worked* - that is, 
it saved without triggering a write error.


I have checked - (a) all data is intact, and (b) all the formulas are 
working. :)


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   Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd
   PO Box 160, Sunshine, VIC
   W: www.botanicusaustralia.com.au

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[libreoffice-users] New Custom Style in Writer - odd behavior

2011-08-10 Thread john d. herron


Aug 07, 2011; 8:42pm - john herron wrote:

I created a style (Default_2, next style also Default_2) which I based 
on the standard Default style.
The only difference between the two is that Default has single line 
spacing whereas for Default_2 calls for double spacing.
When I assign Default_2 to a paragraph from Styles and Formatting, it 
properly displays double-spaced.
But when I then finish editing the paragraph with Return (or Enter, if 
you prefer that), the paragraph reverts to single space.
The same also occurs with an indenting style (Def_2_Ind_1) derived from 
Default_2.


Am I doing something wrong or could this be a bug?

TIA
john



Aug 08 Simon Cropper (The foss Workflow Guides) Aug 08, 2011; 12:49am 
replied:



Try not using the underscore. So rename Default_2 to Default2 or
DefaultDouble and see what happens.

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-

Hello, Simon Cropper.
I tried following your suggestion to not use _ as a style name 
separator (i.e. renamed the style Default2) but to no avail.
Closing the double-spaced Default2 paragraph with Return/Enter still 
causes the paragraph to revert to single-spaced.


Why do I suspect that this behavior might be a bug?
Because in OOo's 3.2 Writer, which I also use, the problem does not occur.

What now?

john

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc will not save file after sheet deleted [SOLUTION]

2011-08-10 Thread jorge
Congratulations,... it was an interesting investigation.

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez
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El jue, 11-08-2011 a las 11:50 +1000, Simon Cropper escribió:
 On 10/08/11 16:41, Simon Cropper wrote:
  *The upshot*
 
  Unless someone recognised these symptoms and can put forward some ideas,
  I am treating this as a corrupt file. I have drawn this conclusion
  because (a) I can only reproduce the error on the effected file, (b) the
  comment insert/delete trick is suggestive but not consistent (or at
  least from what I can tell) - random sheets cause the file save error if
  comments are inserted; inserting comments into new sheets also trigger
  the error.
 
  I just hope that recreating this file does not corrupt the new file as I
  will need to copy blocks of text, numbers and formulas.
 
 
  *My attempts at recreating a clean file*
 
 ATTEMPT 1
 
 Created a new file with one less tab. All tabs were named the same as 
 the original. I then cut-and-paste all the data from the original to 
 this newly created file. This took about 10 minutes.
 
 The problem is that all tab / sheet references after the omitted sheet 
 moved across one. Despite the formula referencing the sheet name, the 
 name is actually just a human readable cue for the underlying sheet 
 number. So sheet Accounts (sheet #17 on the original file), which 
 pointed to 'accounts lookup list' now points to the Tax sheet, which was 
 #18 but is now #17 in the new file.
 
 ATTEMPT 2
 
 Created a new file with exactly the same number of tabs.  All tabs were 
 named the same as the original. I then cut-and-paste all the data from 
 the original to this newly created file. This took about 10 minutes.
 
 Then with baited breath I deleted the unrequired sheet that triggered 
 this journey in the first place and clicked save. *It worked* - that is, 
 it saved without triggering a write error.
 
 I have checked - (a) all data is intact, and (b) all the formulas are 
 working. :)
 
 -- 
 Cheers Simon
 
 Simon Cropper
 Principal Consultant
 Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd
 PO Box 160, Sunshine, VIC
 W: www.botanicusaustralia.com.au
 

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[libreoffice-users] How to use the command /msoreg=1 ?

2011-08-10 Thread sobriquet
My computer does not have Microsoft office installed; rather the minute
Starter office is in place.
I followed the instructions in the System Requirements and
downloaded--mmsvc90.dll. My computer is running Win7, so I went to
Programs--Accessories-- Command Prompt, where the screen shows
C:\users\name_
I type the command /msoreg=1 at the prompt, and it refuses to acknowledge
it. 
What went wrong?
Tks,
Sobriquet

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc will not save file after sheet deleted [SOLUTION]

2011-08-10 Thread Simon Cropper

Thanks.

It was interesting. I am upset though I was unable to pin down the exact 
cause of the corruption.


+/- the comment was obviously a symptom of a underlying structural 
problem solved through ATTEMPT 2 below.


The file was originally created in June 2008 to replace my accounting 
package due to my frustration at the package not being able to do simple 
transactions and not being able to get at the underlying data or lookup 
tables (e.g. tax schedules).


The ODS spreadsheet has been accessed at over 152 times from both 
Windows XP/Ubuntu/XP+VirtualBox, had data imported from external 
Internet sites 45 times as CSV files, purged then repopulated 3 times 
and converted from XLS to ODS once.


I think all things considered the file has been relatively stable. What 
some people seem to forget who 'bag' the format, is that I have been 
able to access my data the entire time *even when this issue occurred*. 
In the absence of a RAD for a database system on Linux I will be 
sticking to using LibreOffice Calc to complete my accounting needs.



On 11/08/11 14:44, jorge wrote:

Congratulations,... it was an interesting investigation.

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez
__

El jue, 11-08-2011 a las 11:50 +1000, Simon Cropper escribió:

On 10/08/11 16:41, Simon Cropper wrote:

*The upshot*

Unless someone recognised these symptoms and can put forward some ideas,
I am treating this as a corrupt file. I have drawn this conclusion
because (a) I can only reproduce the error on the effected file, (b) the
comment insert/delete trick is suggestive but not consistent (or at
least from what I can tell) - random sheets cause the file save error if
comments are inserted; inserting comments into new sheets also trigger
the error.

I just hope that recreating this file does not corrupt the new file as I
will need to copy blocks of text, numbers and formulas.



  *My attempts at recreating a clean file*

ATTEMPT 1

Created a new file with one less tab. All tabs were named the same as
the original. I then cut-and-paste all the data from the original to
this newly created file. This took about 10 minutes.

The problem is that all tab / sheet references after the omitted sheet
moved across one. Despite the formula referencing the sheet name, the
name is actually just a human readable cue for the underlying sheet
number. So sheet Accounts (sheet #17 on the original file), which
pointed to 'accounts lookup list' now points to the Tax sheet, which was
#18 but is now #17 in the new file.

ATTEMPT 2

Created a new file with exactly the same number of tabs.  All tabs were
named the same as the original. I then cut-and-paste all the data from
the original to this newly created file. This took about 10 minutes.

Then with baited breath I deleted the unrequired sheet that triggered
this journey in the first place and clicked save. *It worked* - that is,
it saved without triggering a write error.

I have checked - (a) all data is intact, and (b) all the formulas are
working. :)

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 Simon Cropper
 Principal Consultant
 Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd
 PO Box 160, Sunshine, VIC
 W: www.botanicusaustralia.com.au






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