[libreoffice-users] Re: How do add percentage in Calc?

2012-03-04 Thread PDA1
Thank you, all.




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[libreoffice-users] Get older Libreoffice version 3.3.4.1?

2012-03-04 Thread PDA1
I need to get Lo version 3.3.4.1 (pretty sure that's the number...either than
3.3.4)

I can't find it anywhere on the web.  Accidentally, I think, my machine
installed 3.5 which has (at least for me) the dreaded slow insert row in
Calc problem.

Does anyone have a link to 3.3 or so?

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Python uno object comparison change in 3.5

2012-03-04 Thread David Bolen
Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de writes:

 Hi,

 Your 3rd line is supposed to be:
 TABALIGN_LEFT = uno.Enum(com.sun.star.style.TabAlign, LEFT)

Crud, I don't how how I missed that, sorry - it's a cut 'n paste error
when posting.  The test script didn't have that typo, but had other
enumerations defined that I removed when posting.

I definitely agree the code runs on the older versions of OO and LibO.
That's sort of the point since it only started failing with 3.5 (I've
been using the original script I first noticed this in for several
years).  I couldn't use 3.5.0 due to the uno loading error (the same
exception you got), so first hit it with 3.5.1RC1.

(Ironically, I suppose, I only got on board with 3.5.1 during the RC
phase specifically to ensure the uno loading fix was working in my
environment since the suggested workaround of removing some of the
shared libraries didn't work.)

Here's a simpler (interactive) example:

 /opt/libreoffice3.5/program/python
Python 2.6.1 (r261:67515, Feb 24 2012, 08:33:41) 
[GCC 4.2.4] on linux2
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
 import uno
 from com.sun.star.style import TabStop
 a = TabStop()
 b = TabStop()
 a==b
False

Since my original post, I have gotten a local build environment for
LibO, and the issue appears to be in the use of the new rich
comparison slot rather than the standard cmp slot 3.4.x was using.
I'm not sure exactly where the error is yet, but returning to the
3.4.5 PyUno_cmp function and use of the older cmp slot works even with
3.5.1RC1.

I've gone and and created a bug (46926) since I think this is a
regression from 3.4.5.  It seems to be an unintended consequence of an
earlier Python 3 changeset (as does another issue I found in the
uno.py wrapper which I added as bug 46926, though that's easier to
work around as it's up in python code).  At least when used with the
internally delivered 2.6.1 interpreter.

-- David




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Get older Libreoffice version 3.3.4.1?

2012-03-04 Thread Manfred J. Krause
Hi,

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 12:47 AM, PDA1 wrote:
 I need to get Lo version 3.3.4.1 (pretty sure that's the number...either than
 3.3.4)

 I can't find it anywhere on the web.  Accidentally, I think, my machine
 installed 3.5 which has (at least for me) the dreaded slow insert row in
 Calc problem.

 Does anyone have a link to 3.3 or so?

The Document Foundation Mirrors
→ http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/

mjk

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Help with date formatting

2012-03-04 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 03.03.2012 20:00, Duncan Murdoch wrote:

- I want to be able to cut and paste lines from a web page into the
file, to make small updates. This is why I'm using Calc for editing. OO
lets me paste data and it gets treated as I want. Hopefully with your
suggestions for configuring LO, it'll do the same.



Collect the pasted HTML data on a sheet template if Calc handles the 
data the way you want. You can use a template sheet with the right 
locale and format settings in the right order of columns. Just paste the 
HTML as unformatted text which will preserve the formatting of the 
target cells rather than the HTML formatting of the source.
Instead of saving the sheet as csv you may also paste the used cells 
into a text editor before saving which produces tab separated text with 
the numberic strings as displayed on the sheet.
If some other software is supposed to read your data, English decimals 
with digits and one point only are the universally understood output 
formats for dcimal numbers, dates as ISO dates, percents as decimal 
fractions:


Raw ISO data like this ...

23123.982009-08-30 13:45:59 0.23


are more universal than localized format strings:

EUR 23'123,98   8 Aug 2009 1:45:59 pm   23,00%


Including thousands separators, currencies, units or localized dates is 
counter productive when the importing software is interested in plain 
numbers or date values. All databases import English numerals and ISO 
dates without problems.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to use GTK open dialog box in LibreOffice

2012-03-04 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
On 04/03/2012 at 07:14, Arnaud Champollion arnaud.champoll...@laposte.net 
wrote:

 Le 03/03/2012 11:00, Mirosław Zalewski a écrit :
  I think that there are two problems:
  1. LO can't recognize MATE as GTK-based environment.
  2. Variable name suggest it's OpenOffice related, while it's for
  LibreOffice (and OpenOffice by the way). Maybe this way it is fine,
  maybe it should change.
 
 Should I add this to my bug report on the developper mailing list ?
 (Maybe you've seen it if you're suscriber of it)

I am not subscribed to developers mailing list; if I were, I wouldn't ask you 
if you can report it there ;) .

As of first problem, I think that this is simply bug and it can be added to 
bugzilla (see https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/ ).

As for second, I think that developers should discuss it first, since this may 
or may not be considered bug.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Help with date formatting

2012-03-04 Thread Duncan Murdoch

On 12-03-04 6:00 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:

Am 03.03.2012 20:00, Duncan Murdoch wrote:

- I want to be able to cut and paste lines from a web page into the
file, to make small updates. This is why I'm using Calc for editing. OO
lets me paste data and it gets treated as I want. Hopefully with your
suggestions for configuring LO, it'll do the same.



Collect the pasted HTML data on a sheet template if Calc handles the
data the way you want. You can use a template sheet with the right
locale and format settings in the right order of columns. Just paste the
HTML as unformatted text which will preserve the formatting of the
target cells rather than the HTML formatting of the source.
Instead of saving the sheet as csv you may also paste the used cells
into a text editor before saving which produces tab separated text with
the numberic strings as displayed on the sheet.
If some other software is supposed to read your data, English decimals
with digits and one point only are the universally understood output
formats for dcimal numbers, dates as ISO dates, percents as decimal
fractions:


That all sounds much more complicated than the current workflow, which is:

Load the .CSV file into OO Calc.
Open the web page.
Highlight and copy some lines from a table on the web page.
Insert some lines to make space, and paste the lines into OO Calc.
Save the .CSV file.

The date format on the web page isn't ISO or the DD/MM/YY format the CSV 
file was using, it's like this:


02-Mar-12

but in OO it was recognized as a date and converted when the CSV file 
was written.


I have control over the other software that needs to read the CSV file 
(it's an R program), but I don't have control over the formatting of the 
web page.  I suppose I have control over the workflow, but I like the 
simple flow above.





Raw ISO data like this ...

23123.982009-08-30 13:45:59 0.23


are more universal than localized format strings:

EUR 23'123,98   8 Aug 2009 1:45:59 pm   23,00%


Including thousands separators, currencies, units or localized dates is
counter productive when the importing software is interested in plain
numbers or date values. All databases import English numerals and ISO
dates without problems.


Yes, I would not have any problems if the CSV file used ISO dates.  The 
problems arise earlier, when LO Calc isn't recognizing that the strings 
are dates.


Duncan Murdoch

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[libreoffice-users] Base Faq

2012-03-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Markers has almost completed the Base Faq at
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq#Base
The Report Builder section still needs to be translated from the original 
French.  

Has anyone found any inaccuracies so far?
Regards from
Tom :)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Base faq

2012-03-04 Thread Dan Lewis
On Sun, 2012-03-04 at 13:27 +, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Markers has almost completed the Base Faq at
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq#Base
 The Report Builder section still needs to be translated from the original 
 French.  
 
 Has anyone found any inaccuracies so far?
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 

 Scanning the entries: this is perhaps more thorough than most FAQ's
I've seen. Surprising!
 I made one change: create mode to Edit mode in one discussing
modifying a form.
 How can I add a subform to a form?: inaccuracy about how to use
design mode to do this. Toolbars are only available for use when the
form is in Edit mode. (Click the form and then Edit  Edit; or, right
click the form and select Edit.)
 There are other inaccuracies as well. Perhaps, a good editing of
them followed by proofing them like our documents get?

--Dan


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Table Format

2012-03-04 Thread drew jensen
On Sat, 2012-03-03 at 21:53 -0500, Sylvain Bromberber wrote:
 I once opened the table in one of my data bases and it popped up in a format 
 I have not been able to duplicate. The upper half of the screen was the table 
 in the form of a spread sheet but the lower half had the items of each row in 
 a little table with the items under each other. I have been unable to 
 duplicate this format, which I really liked. Any suggestions?
 

With any form open hit the F4 key...that should do it

//drew

 Sylvain



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base faq

2012-03-04 Thread Mark Stanton
I can take no credit for the completeness, it's just my (poor) best 
at translating the French FAQ.  There were a couple of things that I 
changed/added/removed but mostly I just translated.  Perhaps there 
could be something crediting the French team?

The two pages about HSQLDB have a different link structure than 
(all?) the rest of it.  They go FAQBaseArticle rather than 
FAQArticle, which causes a problem because there's no way back to 
the FAQ from the Base page, but I don't know what or how to do about 
that.  Any suggestions/information?

D'you think if I avoid the issue long enough Alex will translate the 
monster Report Builder tutorial? ;-)

Regards
Mark Stanton
One small step for mankind...



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base faq

2012-03-04 Thread drew jensen
On Sun, 2012-03-04 at 18:45 +, Mark Stanton wrote:
 I can take no credit for the completeness, it's just my (poor) best 
 at translating the French FAQ.  There were a couple of things that I 
 changed/added/removed but mostly I just translated.  Perhaps there 
 could be something crediting the French team?
 
 The two pages about HSQLDB have a different link structure than 
 (all?) the rest of it.  They go FAQBaseArticle rather than 
 FAQArticle, which causes a problem because there's no way back to 
 the FAQ from the Base page, but I don't know what or how to do about 
 that.  Any suggestions/information?
 
 D'you think if I avoid the issue long enough Alex will translate the 
 monster Report Builder tutorial? ;-)
 
 Regards

Hi Mark 

Very good - have added a new question and page to the FQA
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq/Base/HSQLFunctions

//drew


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[libreoffice-users] Spellcheck question

2012-03-04 Thread Edwin Matheson
The spell check feature seems to stop at every word.  Even simple words 
such as ball, hit, the, etc. and suggests changes.  How can I set it so 
that it only stops at miss spelled words.


Thanks for your help.

Ed Matheson

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Table Format

2012-03-04 Thread Sylvain Bromberber
Thank you, but I meant my computer screen, not a screen on which the table 
was projected.


Sylvain

-Original Message- 
From: drew jensen

Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 1:12 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Table Format

On Sat, 2012-03-03 at 21:53 -0500, Sylvain Bromberber wrote:
I once opened the table in one of my data bases and it popped up in a 
format I have not been able to duplicate. The upper half of the screen was 
the table in the form of a spread sheet but the lower half had the items 
of each row in a little table with the items under each other. I have been 
unable to duplicate this format, which I really liked. Any suggestions?




With any form open hit the F4 key...that should do it

//drew


Sylvain




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Table Format

2012-03-04 Thread drew jensen
On Sun, 2012-03-04 at 15:18 -0500, Sylvain Bromberber wrote:
 Thank you, but I meant my computer screen, not a screen on which the table 
 was projected.
 
Howdy Sylvain

Right and that is what I was speaking to - albeit, too briefly I
suppose.

By-default, with a writer document window the F4 key will open the data
source window, docked, in the top of the document window frame. This is
often referred to as the 'beamer'...a name for whatever reason I just
always liked..

OK - if you have a form definition within an ODB file, when that window
is open (this is just a special case of a writer document window) and
you hit F4 the beamer is displayed - however, as this is now attached to
a Base embedded form it behaves differently.

The record set linked to from the CURRENTLY FOCUSED DATA CONTROL on the
form is displayed in a grid view in the beamer. (important to remember
the bit about the focused control, the forum can have multiple record
sets open at a time)

This is just another live view to the record set, if you can update this
record set in the form you can do so in the beamer. If you use filters
to limit the result set in the beamer it also limits the records in the
form detail control.

I assumed that was what you where talking about.

Best wishes,

//drew

 
 -Original Message- 
 From: drew jensen
 Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 1:12 PM
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Table Format
 
 On Sat, 2012-03-03 at 21:53 -0500, Sylvain Bromberber wrote:
  I once opened the table in one of my data bases and it popped up in a 
  format I have not been able to duplicate. The upper half of the screen was 
  the table in the form of a spread sheet but the lower half had the items 
  of each row in a little table with the items under each other. I have been 
  unable to duplicate this format, which I really liked. Any suggestions?
 
 
 With any form open hit the F4 key...that should do it
 
 //drew
 
  Sylvain
 
 
 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Base faq

2012-03-04 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 04/03/12 15:56, Dan Lewis a écrit :

Hi all,

 Has anyone found any inaccuracies so far?
 Regards from
 Tom :)

Well I know for sure that some of the FAQ entries I translated possibly
don't have the correct term taken from the menu as (a) I wasn't working
with LO at the time, and (b) my version of LO is currently in French.



 
  Scanning the entries: this is perhaps more thorough than most FAQ's
 I've seen. Surprising!
  I made one change: create mode to Edit mode in one discussing
 modifying a form.
  How can I add a subform to a form?: inaccuracy about how to use
 design mode to do this. Toolbars are only available for use when the
 form is in Edit mode. (Click the form and then Edit  Edit; or, right
 click the form and select Edit.)
  There are other inaccuracies as well. Perhaps, a good editing of
 them followed by proofing them like our documents get?


That could well have been me (I don't remember now which ones exactly I
did, just looked at the list, clicked, if it led nowhere, then copied
over the French text and translated it.

So proofreading would probably be a good idea.

Alex






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[libreoffice-users] Re: Python uno object comparison change in 3.5

2012-03-04 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 04/03/12 06:09, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak a écrit :

Hi Andrew,


 Is there a dev list for questions of this sort? I have frequently seen
 polite responses that the dev list is for people doing development on
 LO. Probably moot since Andreas seems to have pointed out a bug in the
 script itself.
 

No unfortunately there is no non-core code developer list as such (or at
least none that I know of). Developing using the scripting framework, or
using UNO, or the UDK for example, in contrast to the old OOo lists,
does not appear to have a counterpart within the LO project.

If problems with coding apps for LO is a result of a bug, then I would
say it is always worthwhile posting them on the dev list anyway.

Alex


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Presentation conversion to/from Powerpoint - layout

2012-03-04 Thread Dag Wieers

On Sat, 3 Mar 2012, Andreas Säger wrote:


Am 02.03.2012 19:25, Dag Wieers wrote:


 I didn't reply to your post in this thread. I was replying to e-letter's
 post. Maybe you got lost and assumed I was replying to your post, I
 don't know.


I wonder who got lost in this thread actually.

This is the only answer to e-letter:

 There is nothing sensible in spelling Microsoft as 'm$', being
 condescending to users and force your opinions on others.


It is not followed by any other posting.


Yet, the link you carefully removed from my mail was *your* answer to my 
mail to e-letter's mail:


http://www.mail-archive.com/users@global.libreoffice.org/msg17560.html

So we are not discussing whatever mail you initially send to Roger, we are 
discussing the tone and content of e-letter's mail and how the LibreOffice 
project is representing itself to users.


And e-letter is doing it again, Roger is offering to report a bug and is 
discouraged from the very start. Way to go !


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Presentation conversion to/from Powerpoint - layout

2012-03-04 Thread Dag Wieers

On Sat, 3 Mar 2012, e-letter wrote:


On 02/03/2012, Roger Sawkins ro...@sawkins.name wrote:

Well, having had your little spat I see we have got back to suggestions as
to
what I might do about my problem.


What you choose to call a spat reveals your ignorance of the
historical context of gnu/linux and consequent inability to comprehend
the connection with your problem.


Bear in mind I am new to this game. There is a suggestion of reporting a
bug. I realise there is a link for that, but what is the best way? Should


There is no shame in being new: everyone starts ignorant; it is now
up to you to acquire the necessary knowledge to understand the fallacy
of your problem.


I include a sample of a Ppt conversion (and vice versa) with examples of the
problems, or just list them.


The former, not via a mailing list!

Your original post does not explain nor justify why LO should be used
to create m$ formats.

As indicated by previous reply, if consistent conversion is so
important to you and similar m$ fans, have you contacted m$ and asked
an equivalent question: I want to be able to edit and save odf
presentations ((f)odp) in m$o and LO, but formatting is lost. Please
improve m$o. By the way, how do I submit a bug report to m$

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Please read the part of the Posting guidelines as is appended to every 
post:


TDF/LibreOffice Mailing List Netiquette
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette#Avoid_Advocacy

It states:


Avoid Advocacy

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about TDF as a project, and LibreOffice as a personal productivity 
software. TDF as a community was born out of a positive attitude with 
regards to the future of free software and free office suites, and 
therefore we expect the subject and the tone of discussions to be in line 
with this positive attitude.


TDF does not like negative attitudes in general, even when targeted to 
companies advocating proprietary software (e.g. about Microsoft being the 
root of all evil).



So while I hate to have to bring up rules, in this case I want to make 
clear to Roger and other subscribers e-letter is not representing the 
LibreOffice project.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Presentation conversion to/from Powerpoint - layout

2012-03-04 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 04.03.2012 21:59, Dag Wieers wrote:


Yet, the link you carefully removed from my mail was *your* answer to my
mail to e-letter's mail:

http://www.mail-archive.com/users@global.libreoffice.org/msg17560.html

So we are not discussing whatever mail you initially send to Roger, we
are discussing the tone and content of e-letter's mail and how the
LibreOffice project is representing itself to users.

And e-letter is doing it again, Roger is offering to report a bug and is
discouraged from the very start. Way to go !



I can't see anything wrong with e-letters statements. If you don't like 
his style ignore him.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Table Format

2012-03-04 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 04.03.2012 19:12, drew jensen wrote:

On Sat, 2012-03-03 at 21:53 -0500, Sylvain Bromberber wrote:

I once opened the table in one of my data bases and it popped up in a format I 
have not been able to duplicate. The upper half of the screen was the table in 
the form of a spread sheet but the lower half had the items of each row in a 
little table with the items under each other. I have been unable to duplicate 
this format, which I really liked. Any suggestions?



With any form open hit the F4 key...that should do it

//drew


Sylvain






If Sylvain wants the additional grid view, that is accessible from the 
last button on the navigation tool bar or using a hyperlink button with 
URL .uno:ViewFormAsGrid.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Presentation conversion to/from Powerpoint - layout

2012-03-04 Thread Dag Wieers

On Fri, 2 Mar 2012, Roger Sawkins wrote:


Well, having had your little spat I see we have got back to suggestions as to
what I might do about my problem.

Bear in mind I am new to this game. There is a suggestion of reporting a
bug. I realise there is a link for that, but what is the best way? Should
I include a sample of a Ppt conversion (and vice versa) with examples of the
problems, or just list them.


Including simple sample files would certainly be useful. Also a 
description of the various steps, as well as software versions and system 
environment (that can affect the issue, like the fonts installed etc...)


Bugs that are attractive (i.e. are well-documented and look easy to verify 
without the need to have more interaction) tend to get more support than 
vague claims or complicated descriptions that require more work by bug 
triage people or developers.


Make sure that what you contribute will be public and cannot contain 
content that is copyrighted or illegal to share.




Incidentally, there has been some comment about the 'different fonts on
different machines'. I am using Times New Roman (plain and bold) and as far
as I know that is available on any Windows machine, so presumably that is
not causing the problem.


Even when the fonts appear to be installed on the system, software bugs in 
the filters might be causing such issues. I don't expect them to, but bugs 
tend to be unexpected...


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[libreoffice-users] Calc DATEVALUE() accepts only locale format

2012-03-04 Thread Ferry Toth
With the dutch localization DATEVALUE accepts 1-jan-2011 and 1-mrt-2011
(correct dutch format) but not 1-mar-2011 (english US) regardless if I
set the standard language for the document to English US or not.

Only if I set the 'locale setting' to US does it accept 1-mar-2011.

I am trying make sense of some weird data format (2011MAR) which is
English based. To me that seems a common situation, and I would not want
to change the LO global localization settings as that changes all date
formats in the spreadsheet to english.

Couldn't datavalue take the locale of the formatted cell?

Or is there a better trick to ge this done?

The same probably holds for other localized conversions as well.

Ferry

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc DATEVALUE() accepts only locale format

2012-03-04 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 04.03.2012 22:35, Ferry Toth wrote:


Couldn't datavalue take the locale of the formatted cell?

Or is there a better trick to ge this done?

The same probably holds for other localized conversions as well.

Ferry



Convert the text to number using the appropriate formulas and locale.
CopyPaste-Special the resulting numbers without formulas.
Format the numbers any way you like.


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[libreoffice-users] Spell check problem

2012-03-04 Thread Edwin Matheson

Brian

Thanks for the reply.

I used OpenOffice for several years but for the past several days it 
crashed every few seconds.  As a result I loaded Libreoffice.  I opened 
one of my OpenOffice docs in Libreoffice and almost every word is 
underlined.  When I look at the status bar it says English (USA).  When 
I go to tools | Options | Language Settings  |  Language it is also set 
as English (USA).  I had no problems with this doc in OpenOffice and my 
understanding is that both applications use the same spell check 
system.  I am missing something.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.


Ed

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc DATEVALUE() accepts only locale format

2012-03-04 Thread Brian Barker

At 22:35 04/03/2012 +0100, Ferry Toth wrote:
With the dutch localization DATEVALUE accepts 1-jan-2011 and 
1-mrt-2011 (correct dutch format) but not 1-mar-2011 (english US) 
regardless if I set the standard language for the document to 
English US or not. Only if I set the 'locale setting' to US does it 
accept 1-mar-2011. I am trying make sense of some weird data format 
(2011MAR) which is English based. To me that seems a common 
situation, and I would not want to change the LO global localization 
settings as that changes all date formats in the spreadsheet to 
english. Couldn't datavalue take the locale of the formatted cell? 
Or is there a better trick to ge this done?


If you cannot find a direct way of doing this sort of thing, you can 
always do the conversion yourself explicitly.  It's no doubt sensible 
for you to keep Dutch settings, so you will probably need to write up 
the English month name abbreviations.  Construct a table of these, 
with JAN, FEB, MAR, and so on in one column and the numbers 1 to 12 
in the next column to the right.  Select all twenty-four cells, go to 
Insert | Names  | Define..., and give the table a name - perhaps Months.


Suppose your value 2011MAR is in A1.  Try this formula:
 =DATE(LEFT(A1;4);VLOOKUP(RIGHT(A1;3);Months;2;0);1)

The LEFT() function takes the first four characters as the year.  The 
RIGHT() function takes the last three characters, and the VLOOKUP() 
function looks these up in the Months list to produce a month 
number.  These are combined by DATE() to give the first of the relevant month.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Table Format

2012-03-04 Thread Sylvain Bromberber

Hi Drew,

Thank you for your long explanatory message, but I seem to miss something 
essential. Whenever I press the F4 key no matter where I am in Libre Office 
Base or Writer I get a set of four windows presuming that I have a projector 
on and giving me options on how to connect to it! I even tried the letter F 
key followed by the 4 one. No cigar! I don't know what this focused data 
control is about. I am puzzled but appreciate the trouble you are taking to 
help me.


Sylvain

-Original Message- 
From: drew jensen

Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 3:33 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Table Format

On Sun, 2012-03-04 at 15:18 -0500, Sylvain Bromberber wrote:

Thank you, but I meant my computer screen, not a screen on which the table
was projected.


Howdy Sylvain

Right and that is what I was speaking to - albeit, too briefly I
suppose.

By-default, with a writer document window the F4 key will open the data
source window, docked, in the top of the document window frame. This is
often referred to as the 'beamer'...a name for whatever reason I just
always liked..

OK - if you have a form definition within an ODB file, when that window
is open (this is just a special case of a writer document window) and
you hit F4 the beamer is displayed - however, as this is now attached to
a Base embedded form it behaves differently.

The record set linked to from the CURRENTLY FOCUSED DATA CONTROL on the
form is displayed in a grid view in the beamer. (important to remember
the bit about the focused control, the forum can have multiple record
sets open at a time)

This is just another live view to the record set, if you can update this
record set in the form you can do so in the beamer. If you use filters
to limit the result set in the beamer it also limits the records in the
form detail control.

I assumed that was what you where talking about.

Best wishes,

//drew



-Original Message- 
From: drew jensen

Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 1:12 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Table Format

On Sat, 2012-03-03 at 21:53 -0500, Sylvain Bromberber wrote:
 I once opened the table in one of my data bases and it popped up in a
 format I have not been able to duplicate. The upper half of the screen 
 was

 the table in the form of a spread sheet but the lower half had the items
 of each row in a little table with the items under each other. I have 
 been

 unable to duplicate this format, which I really liked. Any suggestions?


With any form open hit the F4 key...that should do it

//drew

 Sylvain



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RE: [libreoffice-users] Table Format

2012-03-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Are you on a laptop?  Your function keys may have as default actions the 
control of laptop display functions and other provisions.  (These are usually 
signified by a variety of symbols.)

Usually, there is a way to obtain the F4 key function.  If the legend is in 
blue, look for a blue Fn key down in the bottom row of the keyboard.  Hold that 
key depressed and then press the F4 key, then release them both.

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Sylvain Bromberber [mailto:sbrom...@mit.edu] 
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 17:29
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Table Format

Hi Drew,

Thank you for your long explanatory message, but I seem to miss something 
essential. Whenever I press the F4 key no matter where I am in Libre Office 
Base or Writer I get a set of four windows presuming that I have a projector 
on and giving me options on how to connect to it! I even tried the letter F 
key followed by the 4 one. No cigar! I don't know what this focused data 
control is about. I am puzzled but appreciate the trouble you are taking to 
help me.

Sylvain

-Original Message- 
From: drew jensen
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 3:33 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Table Format

On Sun, 2012-03-04 at 15:18 -0500, Sylvain Bromberber wrote:
 Thank you, but I meant my computer screen, not a screen on which the table
 was projected.

Howdy Sylvain

Right and that is what I was speaking to - albeit, too briefly I
suppose.

By-default, with a writer document window the F4 key will open the data
source window, docked, in the top of the document window frame. This is
often referred to as the 'beamer'...a name for whatever reason I just
always liked..

OK - if you have a form definition within an ODB file, when that window
is open (this is just a special case of a writer document window) and
you hit F4 the beamer is displayed - however, as this is now attached to
a Base embedded form it behaves differently.

The record set linked to from the CURRENTLY FOCUSED DATA CONTROL on the
form is displayed in a grid view in the beamer. (important to remember
the bit about the focused control, the forum can have multiple record
sets open at a time)

This is just another live view to the record set, if you can update this
record set in the form you can do so in the beamer. If you use filters
to limit the result set in the beamer it also limits the records in the
form detail control.

I assumed that was what you where talking about.

Best wishes,

//drew


 -Original Message- 
 From: drew jensen
 Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 1:12 PM
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Table Format

 On Sat, 2012-03-03 at 21:53 -0500, Sylvain Bromberber wrote:
  I once opened the table in one of my data bases and it popped up in a
  format I have not been able to duplicate. The upper half of the screen 
  was
  the table in the form of a spread sheet but the lower half had the items
  of each row in a little table with the items under each other. I have 
  been
  unable to duplicate this format, which I really liked. Any suggestions?
 

 With any form open hit the F4 key...that should do it

 //drew

  Sylvain



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