Re: [libreoffice-users] Opening a CSV file with Calc

2012-09-29 Thread Heinrich Stoellinger

Hi Jeff,
Do you apply the correct separator (,;tab) and coding when opening the
csv-file?
Regards
Heinz

On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:41:17 +0200, Jeff Hahn hahn...@outlook.com wrote:




I download financial information from Yahoo Finance.  The download is a CSV 
file format.Athought I am able to open it with MS Excel I am not able to 
open it using LO except as a text file.   Any suggestions on how I can open the 
file with Calc?
Thanks. Jeff



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RE: [libreoffice-users] Opening a CSV file with Calc

2012-09-29 Thread Jeff Hahn
Thanks.  Unfortunately the suggestions did not work.  I am using Windows 7.  
The only way I have been able to open the file with LO is as a TXT file.   When 
I try to open with Calc the text Import window comes up.  The Character Set 
is unicode and the language is US English.  I have tried every combination 
for Separator Options and Other Options but nothing seems to work.  As I 
stated in my original post, Excel opens the file without difficulty.  What I 
have been doing is opening the downloaded file with Excel and saving it to and 
ODS file.   Thanks.  Jeff
  Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 22:26:50 -0400
 From: jsloz...@gmail.com
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Opening a CSV file with Calc
 
 On 09/28/2012 09:41 PM, Jeff Hahn wrote:
 
  I download financial information from Yahoo Finance.  The download is a CSV 
  file format.Athought I am able to open it with MS Excel I am not able 
  to open it using LO except as a text file.   Any suggestions on how I can 
  open the file with Calc?
  Thanks. Jeff  
 Jeff,
 
 I assume you are using Windows. If so, right click and select Open
 with then select Calc if the file extension is csv. The csv import
 wizard should start automatically. Alternately, open Calc and then
 INSERT Sheet from File. The second method will allow to import *.txt
 as well as *.csv files. Either way you should see a dialog box showing
 the current import settings and a preview of the import. If the columns
 are incorrect you can change the column delimiter. Common delimiters are
 comma, semicolon, tab, and pipe (|).
 
 If you have any dates, click on the standard above the date column and
 select an appropriate date format. This will ensure the date is imported
 as a date. Often dates are shown as 2013-26-05 00:00:00.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mailmerge from query broken in 3.4.6?

2012-09-29 Thread Mark Stanton
Thanks Don,

I'll have a scout about.

Regards
Mark



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Impress - Blink animation doesn't work

2012-09-29 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi,

Dr. R. O Stapf schrieb:


On 2012-09-28 23:56, Regina Henschel wrote:

[..]

It is said to be fixed with
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50833
but I have not tested it yet.



Unfortunately it is still there. As the bug assitant does not work (at
least not for me) I even can't report it and attach a demo file which I
created already. Maybe someone else can try to report the bug and leave
a note here.



It is really fixed, I have tested it now. You need a developer build to 
test it. I have used LO 3.7.0.0.

http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/

Fixed on master means, that the fix will be included in the next LO 
3.n.0 release. Currently master is for LO 3.7.0, which will be published 
in Feb.2013.


Kind regards
Regina


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Opening a CSV file with Calc

2012-09-29 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Jeff,

Jeff Hahn schrieb:

Thanks.  Unfortunately the suggestions did not work.  I am using
Windows 7.  The only way I have been able to open the file with LO is
as a TXT file.   When I try to open with Calc the text Import
window comes up.


Then you are using the wrong filter.

Start Calc.
File  Open and in that open dialog select your file.
In the lower part of the dialog use the drop-dow list file type, 
scroll the list till item Text CSV (*.csv, *txt). That item is forth 
last of the spreadsheet section.

Open.

If it still opens in Writer, then the file is not a csv file and someone 
gave it a wrong file name extension. In that case open the file in an 
editor and post the start of the file here.


Kind regards
Regina

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[libreoffice-users] Re: ZOOM: strange or bug??

2012-09-29 Thread Tom
Hi :)
Ok, so you are using LO 3.5.4(?) definitely 3.5.something on openSUSE.  

I'm not sure how to record your desktop on openSUSE, it's probably the same
way i would do it on Ubuntu but i don't know that either.  

I'm still not clear what the problem is.  
1.  Is it that when you move the mouse arrow over the screen it gets stuck
over the zoom controls at the bottom right of the screen?  or does it move
away from there but stay stuck with the same controls?  Is the problem that
once you start zooming then you can't do anything except zoom?

2.  Is it that the zoom goes rapidly from minimum to max or vice-versa
without allowing you to just zoom in (or out) just a small amount?

Regards from
Tom :)



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Stacking text frames anchored to page

2012-09-29 Thread Sebastiaan Snoeckx





I have anchored two text frames to the bottom of a page; ...


I don't think you can do this.  One choice is to anchor a frame to a
page (not to a point on that page); you can then position the frame in
various ways.


... however, instead of being *stacked above* each other, they're
*overlaid* over each other.


If you position them identically - at the bottom of the page, for
instance - then that's what I would expect.


Is there an easier solution to stack frames *anchored to bottom of
page* instead of overlaying them?


Again, they cannot be anchored to the bottom of a page, only to the page
itself.  Once you have created your frames, you can easily move them to
be adjacent instead of overlapping.  Select a frame by clicking near its
edge - so that you see its eight green handles.  Put the cursor into
the frame: it will change to a four-headed arrow.  You can now click and
drag the frame where you need it.  You can also drag the handles
individually in order to position the sides or corners separately.
Repeat as necessary.

I trust this helps.



The problem is that I have a lot of frames set up this way, manually 
moving them on top of each other is tedious, plus this means that 
everytime I edit the text, I have to re-move them... IMHO, there should 
really be an easier -- automatic -- solution to stack frames...



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[libreoffice-users] MS problems

2012-09-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Just had a classic from my boss.  He says he prefers Internet Explorer and 
Adobe because he's never had any trouble with them.  He can't download  Pdfs 
though and has the same problem at home.  Firefox on his machine here downloads 
them fine.  When Foxit is set as the default Pdf reader then IE does download.  


Going to microsoft.com showed 26 important security updates that didn't get 
installed through his auto-updates.  None were about adding functionality. Then 
java and different things needed to be updated separately.  The only updates 
(well upgrades really) that added functionality were for Firefox and 
LibreOffice. 


His Internet Explorer is still grumbling about some C++ problem in 
iexplorer.exe whenever he tries to download pdfs.  He still says there is no 
problem with IE.  

Regards from
Tom :)  








snip /



Hi Tom,
Thank you for a very informative answer - it is bad that all this
  is not mentioned as a basic info about LibO.
I am prepared to trust it as true but honestly I have to rely on
  my own experiences both regarding Win/MSO and LibO.

I have been using Windows and many of MS programs since early
  1980:  all of the modules in the MSO suite, Access, Publisher,
  Visio, Project, etc
    never any problems with installing
    never need to send any kind of bug reports
    never any need to contact any community/list for help
    cannot remember not one machine crash when using
  Windows-MS-programs
    no courses, no teachers in using Windows/MS programs
  -- I had no problems to learn all by my self mostly thanks to a
  good help function;  when I was working as IT-help/help desk I
  could even tutor my colleagues in Word, Excel, PP, Access how to
  use the special features and functions
    made a lot of Access-dbs, learned to complete them
  with VBA and got macros work 

Some facts about LibO (first 3.4.5, then 3.4.6 -- I didn't dare to install 
later versions, so now back to OO)
    in January this year after downloading LibO I had big
  problems/crashes with getting Base (similar to MSAccess) working
  - reason: JRE and bad guidings
    some basic features/functions in Base does not work --
  no help from LibO help nor Base Guide
    I have some rather big (heavy) applications in Calc
  (several sheets, 200 rows15-30 cols/sheet, remote referenses
  between sheets) - I've noticed (when tracking why results are
  wrong) that Calc in some situations does not have power enough
  to do the automatic recalc through all the rows/cols/pages: there
  is nothing wrong, it just does not do the recalc -- which means
  that I cannot trust the calcs to be 100% correct;  this is not
  only inconvenient but can be fatal in economical calcs   (my
  computers do most certainly have all the power needed)
    the button LibreOffice Help does not directly lead
  to any kind of help -- the function is totally of no use until you
  first learn it's logic (if any) -- to find any help can take hours
  of digging

I should very much like to use LibO only (not only because of
  costs) but cannot afford wasting time and nerves on all the
  problems.
According to this list there are -- in my opinion -- too many
  others having problems already from the very beginning, with
  installing.

For me -- I represent the ordinary non-LibO-expert user -- it is
  obvious why not only companies rely on Windows/MSO.
I can not see that this is anything to argue about: LibO must be
  easy-to-use, stable and free from any basic problems if it wants
  to be really accepted.
Note: I am talking about ordinary people and ordinary companies,
  who value their time.  

snip /



On 27.9.2012 17:07, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
On the contrary. MS do not fix their problems quickly at all. 
Even known malware threats remain for months and even years. 
Their strategy is to blame the users.  A typical one being to
tell users they shouldn't be using macros because of the
likelihood of getting an infected or corrupted one.  Read The
Emperor’s New Clothes.  People are told that MS Office is the
best and so when they find problems with it they tend to blame
themselves rather than the software.  

For example when using non-MS software someone would quite
happily slate the product with this sort of thing I opened my
document and deleted tons of stuff and saved it using the same
name.  now when i open the document it has all that stuff
missing!  The stupid program can't even find the stuff that i
deleted.  No, of course i don't have a back-up of the file
before my deletions

One problem that has never been solved is that when creating an
MS document the style keeps randomly changing without the user
doing anything noticeable.  So, the language keeps 

[libreoffice-users] Re: ZOOM: strange or bug??

2012-09-29 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 28.09.2012 14:00, manuel_songo...@yahoo.it wrote:
 hello
 i dont say GESTURES ON LO ok? i say why when my mouse on area zoom slider 
 and why it's activated drag only when area zoom-slider do you undy?
 how i can record my screen video? so will send you to see what is problem ok?
 
 

Save your work and close any running office.
Just to be sure:
$ killall soffice.bin

Rename your user profile which is under ~/.config/libreoffice on my
Ubuntu system:
$ mv ~/.config/libreoffice ~/.config/libreoffice.backup

Start your office, let it create a brand new profile and see if there is
any difference.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] MS problems

2012-09-29 Thread M Henri Day
2012/9/29 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk

 Hi :)
 Just had a classic from my boss.  He says he prefers Internet Explorer and
 Adobe because he's never had any trouble with them.  He can't download
  Pdfs though and has the same problem at home.  Firefox on his machine here
 downloads them fine.  When Foxit is set as the default Pdf reader then IE
 does download.


 Going to microsoft.com showed 26 important security updates that didn't
 get installed through his auto-updates.  None were about adding
 functionality. Then java and different things needed to be updated
 separately.  The only updates (well upgrades really) that added
 functionality were for Firefox and LibreOffice.


 His Internet Explorer is still grumbling about some C++ problem in
 iexplorer.exe whenever he tries to download pdfs.  He still says there is
 no problem with IE.

 Regards from
 Tom :)

 snip

That was indeed a classic, Tom - of the «just works» tribe ! It may seem
strange that people will believe propositions that are directly countered
by their own experience, but that's been the case for thousands of years -
and what public relations and advertising, not to mention religious
organisations, base their considerable success upon

Henri

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Re: [libreoffice-users] MS problems

2012-09-29 Thread Jay Lozier
On 09/29/2012 10:22 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Just had a classic from my boss.  He says he prefers Internet Explorer and 
 Adobe because he's never had any trouble with them.  He can't download  Pdfs 
 though and has the same problem at home.  Firefox on his machine here 
 downloads them fine.  When Foxit is set as the default Pdf reader then IE 
 does download.  


 Going to microsoft.com showed 26 important security updates that didn't get 
 installed through his auto-updates.  None were about adding functionality. 
 Then java and different things needed to be updated separately.  The only 
 updates (well upgrades really) that added functionality were for Firefox and 
 LibreOffice. 


 His Internet Explorer is still grumbling about some C++ problem in 
 iexplorer.exe whenever he tries to download pdfs.  He still says there is no 
 problem with IE.  

 Regards from
 Tom :)  

 snip
Too many users do not realize error messages mean that software is not
working correctly. Often, they ignore them instead of asking someone who
has enough knowledge to understand them and if possible fix them. Is the
IE C++ problem a missing update?

Also, many users do not have good security practices about making sure
all software is updated. Linux users are spoiled because the distros
have a comprehensive package management system while Windows users do not.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS raised prices so people will now start renting their office products instead

2012-09-29 Thread Wolfgang Keller
  - actually useful formatting concepts for presentations like e.g.
  LaTeX Beamer provides.
 
 Could you elaborate? I don't know Beamer (I have heard the name, but
 never really used it) and I am interested in knowing what it has to
 offer that LO is not capable of.

Everything that you get from LaTeX: structure markup instead of
spaghetti formatting, parameterized formatting, etc...

Instead of clicking through dozens of dialogboxes for each and every
line of text, slide title, list item, figure, etc. to get everything the
way you want it, you just change a few parameters once for the whole
document and that's it.

 As side note of my question: I don't think that LO should mimic every
 feature of LaTeX, especially WYSIWYM approach (instead of current
 WYSIWYG). I strongly believe that target group of LibreOffice is
 different than target group of LaTeX. LaTeX is already free, vital
 community exists, there are dedicated editors - users who prefer
 LaTeX approach can just use LaTeX.

I just cited LaTeX as one example for structure markup. Other examples
are Wordperfect or Framemaker. My point is that LO should not keep the
MS Office-style spaghetti content models that were already outdated in
the 80s and pile up features on top, but instead LO should focus on
providing a functional concept that allows users to work with documents
in a more structured and thus more efficient way. MS Office is by far
the worst example in the market. And, as such, the example *not* to
follow.

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS raised prices so people will now start renting their office products instead

2012-09-29 Thread Wolfgang Keller
 As an engineer, now retired, I used BASIC for many years, then took
 a class in Pascal and wrote some code in Pascal.  You are correct--
 all I wanted, in almost all cases, was command-line input and screen
 or print (or both) output.  I first wrote BASIC on a teletype machine
 connected by acoustic modem to a mainframe somewhere in Texas.

Obviously at that time, Python wasn't available yet. ;-) X-(

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS raised prices so people will now start renting their office products instead

2012-09-29 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
On 29/09/2012 at 20:10, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote:

 Everything that you get from LaTeX: structure markup instead of
 spaghetti formatting, parameterized formatting, etc...
 
 Instead of clicking through dozens of dialogboxes for each and every
 line of text, slide title, list item, figure, etc. to get everything the
 way you want it, you just change a few parameters once for the whole
 document and that's it.

That's where styles, templates, master slides etc. comes in. Haven't you heard 
of them? They give you ability to define paragraphs by their meaning in 
document structure and change parameters once for the whole document.

As far as I know, you can apply direct formatting in LaTeX as well. But this 
is possible, not necessary. Even if LO encourages users to use direct 
formatting (by exposing icons on toolbar), it is still totally optional.

Or did I miss the part where you pointed out advantages of LaTeX approach to 
document structure in comparison to LO?
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[libreoffice-users] Can't get Libra office working with Java access bridge and java7.

2012-09-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
The question did get to the list originally but the list was unusually quiet at 
the time after an unusually busy period during the paralympics

Hopefully someone here can remember how to fix the java-bridge or hopefully 
this wiki-page might help
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq/Java
I think it's a work-in-progress.    
Regards from
Tom :)  



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wrote:

snip /

     Hope this gets to the list.

     I use Nvda and I can't get Libra office working with java access
     bridge that should come with java-7.

     I have installed libra office switched on the accessibility during
     the install I have under use the computer without a display checked
     to have the access bridge switched on, I have open office pointing
     to c:programfilesjava7 please this might not be the exact path to
     the jre I need to install, but I can assure you it is pointing at
     the jre-7 folder anyway I have been told that Libra office has
     forgotten to put the accessibility into the latest version, I have
     tried older versions 5.0 I think. anyway this dose not work either.
     some help would be nice thanks in advance. I asked about a year ago
     but is there no further progress on Ia2 getting ported into libra
     office? thanks for any help in advance.



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RE: [libreoffice-users] Opening a CSV file with Calc

2012-09-29 Thread les
On Sat, 2012-09-29 at 03:12 -0400, Jeff Hahn wrote:
 Thanks.  Unfortunately the suggestions did not work.  I am using Windows 7.  
 The only way I have been able to open the file with LO is as a TXT file.   
 When I try to open with Calc the text Import window comes up.  The 
 Character Set is unicode and the language is US English.  I have tried 
 every combination for Separator Options and Other Options but nothing 
 seems to work.  As I stated in my original post, Excel opens the file without 
 difficulty.  What I have been doing is opening the downloaded file with Excel 
 and saving it to and ODS file.   Thanks.  Jeff
   Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 22:26:50 -0400
  From: jsloz...@gmail.com
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Opening a CSV file with Calc
  
  On 09/28/2012 09:41 PM, Jeff Hahn wrote:
  
   I download financial information from Yahoo Finance.  The download is a 
   CSV file format.Athought I am able to open it with MS Excel I am not 
   able to open it using LO except as a text file.   Any suggestions on how 
   I can open the file with Calc?
   Thanks. Jeff
  Jeff,
  
  I assume you are using Windows. If so, right click and select Open
  with then select Calc if the file extension is csv. The csv import
  wizard should start automatically. Alternately, open Calc and then
  INSERT Sheet from File. The second method will allow to import *.txt
  as well as *.csv files. Either way you should see a dialog box showing
  the current import settings and a preview of the import. If the columns
  are incorrect you can change the column delimiter. Common delimiters are
  comma, semicolon, tab, and pipe (|).
  
  If you have any dates, click on the standard above the date column and
  select an appropriate date format. This will ensure the date is imported
  as a date. Often dates are shown as 2013-26-05 00:00:00.
  
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If the file contains floating point numbers make sure you click on
detect special numbers.

Regards,
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