[libreoffice-users] Re: Chinese hyphenation

[Urmas]

"Per Hyttel Larsen":

I know that in e.g. Korean there are a few rules as to where you may break a 
sequence of glyphs. Some must be kept together and be on the same line.


For Chinese/Japanese only some punctuation (like parentheses and quotes) is 
kept with following/previous text.
That list can be changed in LO options. 




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RE: [libreoffice-users] Chinese hyphenation

[Per Hyttel Larsen]

Hi
I know that in e.g. Korean there are a few rules as to where you may break a 
sequence of glyphs. Some must be kept together and be on the same line. 
Therefore I mean that hyphenation exists in Korean and I thought that the same 
might have been true for Chinese, but I understand that this is not the case.

Per Larsen

From: M Henri Day [mailto:mhenri...@gmail.com]
Sent: 6. november 2013 18:28
To: Per Hyttel Larsen
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Chinese hyphenation

2013/11/6 Per Hyttel Larsen mailto:p...@ccieurope.com>>
I will try to put the question again:

I am trying to find out if there is a hyphenation module for LibreOffice for 
the Chinese language (traditional and/or simplyfied).  Can any of you direct me 
towards someone who can answer this question?

Thanks in advance
Per Larsen



-Original Message-
From: Florian Effenberger 
[mailto:flo...@documentfoundation.org]
Sent: 5. november 2013 16:43
To: Per Hyttel Larsen
Subject: Re: Chinese hyphenation

Hello Per,

Per Hyttel Larsen wrote on 2013-11-05 15:45:
> I am trying to find out if there is a hyphenation module for
> LibreOffice for the Chinese language (traditional and/or simplyfied).
> Can you direct me towards someone who can answer this question ?

hmm... I sadly have no idea. Did you check the extensions website already? 
Otherwise, I recommend asking on the users list.

Sorry I have no better answer for the moment, Florian

​Per, as far as I know, hyphens are never used when writing Chinese glyphs, 
either simplified or traditional, nor can I remember ever seeing them used in 
pinyin (拼音)​
​. May I inquire as to why you would have need of a hyphenation module for this 
language ?​
​...
Henri​

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[libreoffice-users] Re: HELP: Frame placement, wrapping, and collision

[Urmas]

"Adam Tauno Williams":

but it seems I really need an 
anchor-to-paragraph-getting-as-close-as-you-can option without either 
crashing into other frames or leaving a blank inch and a half on the 
previous page.


I'm afraid only DTP applications can ensure adequate placement of drawings. 
There's just no way to lay them out automatically so result would look nice. 




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Find and replace - regular expressions

[Brian Barker]

At 08:24 28/10/2013 +0100, Miroslaw Zalewski wrote:

Dnia 2013-10-28, o godz. 00:24:38 Brian Barker napisal(a):
That's because your original question was not at all clear!  (You 
owe it to correspondents not to waste their time.)


I disagree. The question was perfectly clear.


Thanks for this - but I'm afraid not.  The original question was 
"Does the Find & Replace dialog box allow backreferences in the 
'Replace with' field? (I'm having trouble getting it to 
work.)".  No-one was able to answer it until the original questioner 
explained himself.  Were you perhaps instead reading his revised message?


"Backreference" is one of basic terms in regular expressions theory. 
If you ask about regexpes, you may safely assume that your peers 
knows what "backreference" means.


You've latched onto "backreference" as if not understanding that was 
the substance of my comment.  But I didn't mention that.  Instead, 
the problem was that the questioner initially did not explain what 
problem he had with backreferences.  Indeed, it transpired that his 
problem was that he didn't need backreferences at 
all.  Backreferences are how you refer back to a matched string 
within the pattern itself, not how you refer to the same thing in the 
replacement string.  (See Wikipedia: "grouping subexpressions with 
parentheses and recalling the value they match *in the same 
expression* (backreferences)" (my emphasis).)  The user's problem was 
that he was erroneously using the syntax for backreferences in an 
attempt to create a reference in the replacement string.


Statement in parentheses applies to both sides - the one asking the 
question as well as people who answer it.


Well, that's certainly true.  But I cannot see how you can suggest 
(as you clearly were) that I was wasting the questioner's time.  Once 
he identified his problem, I provided an explanation which he 
described as "Perfect".


Brian Barker


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RE: [libreoffice-users] Would somebody be able to help a newbe to LibreOffice.

[Bruce Carlson]

HI,

Place your cursor in cell (A41)
On the menu bar click [Window] then [Freeze]

This will freeze all rows above where you have the cursor placed.

If you put the cursor in cell (C41) as well as freezing all rows above 41 you 
would also freeze all columns before C. That is columns A and B would also be 
frozen.

If you already have a freeze point set you will need to clear it before setting 
a new point.

Hope this helps.

 Cheers,

Bruce Carlson

>-Original Message-
>From: Bill Gassner [mailto:bill.gass...@gmail.com] 
>Sent: Friday, 8 November 2013 12:22 PM
>To: tomc...@gmail.com
>Cc: anne-ology; users@global.libreoffice.org
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Would somebody be able to help a newbe to 
>LibreOffice

>Hi All,

>Thanks for responding to my call for help. Here is the situation: I have a 
>LibreOffice Cal sheet with rows 1-34 with text. Rows 35-40 with titles above 7 
>colums.
>Rows 41-100 is entries.

>I would like to modify document so that rows 35-40 stay fixed when I scroll 
>down to say column  100.

>This way the titles of the seven columns would always be visible. I know this 
>can be done.

>What formula would I use and where would I put that?

>Many thanks in advance

>Bill



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[libreoffice-users] Online, cloud version, or adaptions, work arounds available?

[Joseph Hogan]

Hello,

I found a website about a month ago, but unfortunately lost the link, 
that pertains to a way to using LIbreOffice online.


It is not a Office 365 like idea.  What I recall, it was set up on a 
server, and you logged in and it also seemed like a VNC, thought i might 
be wrong.  Anyone away of this project?


Has anyone seen any type of progress/attempts in this direction, meaning 
making a viable solution to bringing LIbre Office (maybe other might 
have seen with Open Office?) to an online platform?


I am not suggested have 1 place to use it, like Office 365.  But, an 
installable solution for anyone to make an online office type package.


I am curious to know, as I would love a package that is available for this.

Joe

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Would somebody be able to help a newbe to LibreOffice.

[Brian Barker]

At 20:21 07/11/2013 -0500, Bill Gassner wrote:
I have a LibreOffice Cal[c] sheet with rows 1-34 with text. Rows 
35-40 with titles above 7 columns.  Rows 41-100 is entries.  I would 
like to modify document so that rows 35-40 stay fixed when I scroll 
down to say column 100.  This way the titles of the seven columns 
would always be visible. What formula would I use and where would I put that?


Formulae are used for calculations; you don't use a formula for 
display functions such as this.


o Scroll down in the document until row 35 is the top row visible.
o Click in the row headers at the left to select row 41 - the one 
*below* the rows you wish to freeze.  Alternatively, you can just 
click in cell A41 (but not in any of the other cells in row 41).

o Go to Window | Freeze.

When you need to get back to viewing the first 34 rows, go to Window 
| Freeze again.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Would somebody be able to help a newbe to LibreOffice.

[John Meyer]

_W_indow->_F_reeze

Place cursor underneath row you want to stay still.

HTH

On 11/7/2013 6:21 PM, Bill Gassner wrote:

Hi All,

Thanks for responding to my call for help. Here is the situation: I
have a LibreOffice Cal sheet with rows 1-34 with text. Rows 35-40 with
titles above 7 colums.
Rows 41-100 is entries.

I would like to modify document so that rows 35-40 stay fixed when I
scroll down to say column  100.

This way the titles of the seven columns would always be visible. I
know this can be done.

What formula would I use and where would I put that?

Many thanks in advance

Bill

On 11/7/13, Tom Davies  wrote:

Hi :)
I am getting the feeling he was hoping the answer would be "No".  been
waiting for a question all day!
Regards from
Tom :)

On 7 November 2013 21:11, anne-ology  wrote:

yes, you've found it;
what's you're next question  ;-)



From: Bill Gassner 
Date: Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 9:08 PM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Would somebody be able to help a newbe to
LibreOffice.
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


Greetings

Is there a list of willing helpers.

Thanks in advance.
Bill

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Would somebody be able to help a newbe to LibreOffice.

[Bill Gassner]

Hi All,

Thanks for responding to my call for help. Here is the situation: I
have a LibreOffice Cal sheet with rows 1-34 with text. Rows 35-40 with
titles above 7 colums.
Rows 41-100 is entries.

I would like to modify document so that rows 35-40 stay fixed when I
scroll down to say column  100.

This way the titles of the seven columns would always be visible. I
know this can be done.

What formula would I use and where would I put that?

Many thanks in advance

Bill

On 11/7/13, Tom Davies  wrote:
> Hi :)
> I am getting the feeling he was hoping the answer would be "No".  been
> waiting for a question all day!
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
> On 7 November 2013 21:11, anne-ology  wrote:
>>yes, you've found it;
>>what's you're next question  ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Bill Gassner 
>> Date: Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 9:08 PM
>> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Would somebody be able to help a newbe to
>> LibreOffice.
>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>>
>>
>> Greetings
>>
>> Is there a list of willing helpers.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Bill
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Would somebody be able to help a newbe to LibreOffice.

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
I am getting the feeling he was hoping the answer would be "No".  been
waiting for a question all day!
Regards from
Tom :)

On 7 November 2013 21:11, anne-ology  wrote:
>yes, you've found it;
>what's you're next question  ;-)
>
>
>
> From: Bill Gassner 
> Date: Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 9:08 PM
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Would somebody be able to help a newbe to
> LibreOffice.
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>
>
> Greetings
>
> Is there a list of willing helpers.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Bill
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Would somebody be able to help a newbe to LibreOffice.

[anne-ology]

   yes, you've found it;
   what's you're next question  ;-)



From: Bill Gassner 
Date: Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 9:08 PM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Would somebody be able to help a newbe to
LibreOffice.
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


Greetings

Is there a list of willing helpers.

Thanks in advance.
Bill

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Find/Replace Regex

[Mirosław Zalewski]

Dnia 2013-11-07, o godz. 22:25:51
Steve Edmonds  napisał(a):

> Thanks. Yes, I am still on 3.x series. I have not converted (and 
> checked) yet the files I have that 4.x onwards dropped support for
> and can't update until I have done so.

For what it's worth, on Linux you can install 3.x in parallel with 4.x.
In fact, each line (3.4, 3.5, 3.6, 4.0, 4.1 etc.) is installed in it's
own directory.

On Windows, you may use server installation GUI [0] to install one
branch alongside another.

Either way, the most important thing is that you can't have two
versions running in parallel (including quickstarter, if you are using
it). But they can be installed and run sequentially.

So, you can upgrade for usual daily work and keep 3.6 installed for
better times, when you feel like converting your old documents.

[0] http://flosmind.wordpress.com/libreoffice-server-install-gui/
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Help needed for subscription to mailing lists from hotmail

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
I am not aware of any problems with .it addresses nor with Hotmail in
general.  Yahoo just had a major crunch and i'm currently using GMail
to pretend to be my Yahoo one (forwarding and such) but i'm
considering moving to GMail entirely even though i'm currently finding
it difficult to adjust to it.
Regards from
Tom :)


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> Or should that work all the same?
> Thank you
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Re: [libreoffice-users] [4.0.3.3 non fixed bug] Link with a space Pdf export error (%20 characters - space ones - exported as %2520 ones)

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Grrr, sorry!  It's an old thread that eventually turned out to be yet
another bug in Adobe Acrobat but somewhat unusually they did bother to fix
it.

Apols and regards from
Tom :)




On 7 November 2013 13:06, Tom Davies  wrote:

> Hi :)
> That is one reason why it is best to avoid putting spaces in url names.
>  Anyone who does use a space in a url looks like a clueless moron because
> it fails so often.  CamelCase works far more often.  Spaces don't.
>
> You can see the space has to be replaced by a %20 (coding = space) and
> that makes the url look too geeky so most people wont even try to read it.
>  if there is an 'obvious' error, typo or spelling mistake then they wont be
> able to find it.  This is exacerbated by the % sign then getting replaced
> by the code for % which is %25.  Presumably if you pasted that link into
> most programs (including LibreOffice Writer as one amongst many) then you
> would get from
> http://support.mozilla.org/it/kb/Informazioni%2520su%2520Firefox%2520Sync
> to
>
> http://support.mozilla.org/it/kb/Informazioni%252520su%252520Firefox%252520Sync
> and so on.
>
> Possible work-arounds are to put it in tag-brackets such as
> 
> or perhaps speechmarks?
> "http://support.mozilla.org/it/kb/Informazioni su Firefox Sync"
> or in wiki coding-brackets
> {http://support.mozilla.org/it/kb/Informazioni su Firefox Sync}
>
> I don't know if any of those work in your email-client or in Writer.
>  Different programs handle these sorts of things differently so i tend to
> give people thebasic link and then tell them how to navigate from there.
>  eg "
> http://support.mozilla.org/it/kb
> and look for the link  about syncing"
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
> On 9 May 2013 12:29, Carlo Strata  wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone and sorry for my long silence!
>>
>> I have not read the mailing list for a long, but I am always here to use,
>> test, update and spread LibreOffice! ;-)
>>
>> Since 4.x versions - but maybe since before:
>>
>> 1. if you create a new writer document and copy in it a with-space-link
>> like this:
>> http://support.mozilla.org/it/kb/Informazioni%20su%20Firefox%20Sync
>> 2. save the document;
>> 3. export the document in pdf with the default settings;
>> 4. open the exported pdf;
>> 5. click on the clickable link;
>> 6. you will get this wrong link instead:
>> http://support.mozilla.org/it/kb/Informazioni%2520su%2520Firefox%2520Sync
>> 7. if you open that link from the odt (as usual with a ctrl+click) you
>> get instead the right link and the browser open correctly!
>> 8. if you leave your mouse cursor on the link both on the pdf and the odt
>> documents you will get a correct title yellow lable ("tooltip") too!
>> 9. I finally think there is a bug on the pdf export module.
>> 10. This is the same if you create the above document with the Insert ->
>> Hypertext link menu function.
>>
>> I have tested this on each new testing release, but only today I have
>> found the mental time to write this mail.
>> I am also going to search if there is a related issue yet and if not, as
>> I used in the near past, I will post a new one.
>>
>> Have a sunny day,
>>
>> Carlo
>>
>> p.s. on this Saturday I will see Italo (Vignoli) on Venice (where I live)
>> in a very interesting public access Venetian Engineers Meeting that I help
>> to organize... :-)
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Re: [libreoffice-users] meager color options

[Kracked_P_P---webmaster]

OK, I decided to place the new color palette on the top of my to-do list.

I tested it out on Ubuntu 12.04 and LO 4.05.

I took the original "standard.soc" and added the LO Branding colors, for
the Wiki page, and then added the colors that were on my PDF file list
of color names and Hex code.

That makes 634 colors total. 
That includes the 100 different Gray levels that the list has.  There
may be some duplicate Hex codes from the original list and the newly
added ones, but I add "LO" to the front of the Branding colors - i.e.
"LO Yellow 2", and "-new" to the end of the other new colors, which are
in uppercase letters - i.e. "CORAL 4-new", "CORNFLOWER BLUE-new",
"CORNSILK 1-new".


So anyone who want to try this new palette, save the original
"standard.soc" as "standard-original.soc", or something like that.  Then
take the "new-palette---standard.soc" and rename it "standard.soc" and
place it in the folder that contain the original "standard.soc" file, as
well as all the rest of the palette ".soc" files.

Here is the link.

http://libreoffice-na.us/new-palette---standard.soc

Try it.  You might like it.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Pivot table style "Pivot Table Field"

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
I'm not sure.  Nope, scratch that.  i am sure i don't know.  I don't
know what the other ones do either.  You don't need to delete it or
anyhting do you?

Regards from
Tom :)



On 4 November 2013 03:59, LeroyTennison  wrote:
> What does this style apply to, I have determined through experimentation what
> the other five Pivot Table ... styles apply to but modifying this one
> doesn't seem to affect anything.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] [4.0.3.3 non fixed bug] Link with a space Pdf export error (%20 characters - space ones - exported as %2520 ones)

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
That is one reason why it is best to avoid putting spaces in url names.
 Anyone who does use a space in a url looks like a clueless moron because
it fails so often.  CamelCase works far more often.  Spaces don't.

You can see the space has to be replaced by a %20 (coding = space) and that
makes the url look too geeky so most people wont even try to read it.  if
there is an 'obvious' error, typo or spelling mistake then they wont be
able to find it.  This is exacerbated by the % sign then getting replaced
by the code for % which is %25.  Presumably if you pasted that link into
most programs (including LibreOffice Writer as one amongst many) then you
would get from
http://support.mozilla.org/it/kb/Informazioni%2520su%2520Firefox%2520Sync
to
http://support.mozilla.org/it/kb/Informazioni%252520su%252520Firefox%252520Sync
and so on.

Possible work-arounds are to put it in tag-brackets such as

or perhaps speechmarks?
"http://support.mozilla.org/it/kb/Informazioni su Firefox Sync"
or in wiki coding-brackets
{http://support.mozilla.org/it/kb/Informazioni su Firefox Sync}

I don't know if any of those work in your email-client or in Writer.
 Different programs handle these sorts of things differently so i tend to
give people thebasic link and then tell them how to navigate from there.
 eg "
http://support.mozilla.org/it/kb
and look for the link  about syncing"

Regards from
Tom :)



On 9 May 2013 12:29, Carlo Strata  wrote:

> Hi Everyone and sorry for my long silence!
>
> I have not read the mailing list for a long, but I am always here to use,
> test, update and spread LibreOffice! ;-)
>
> Since 4.x versions - but maybe since before:
>
> 1. if you create a new writer document and copy in it a with-space-link
> like this:
> http://support.mozilla.org/it/kb/Informazioni%20su%20Firefox%20Sync
> 2. save the document;
> 3. export the document in pdf with the default settings;
> 4. open the exported pdf;
> 5. click on the clickable link;
> 6. you will get this wrong link instead:
> http://support.mozilla.org/it/kb/Informazioni%2520su%2520Firefox%2520Sync
> 7. if you open that link from the odt (as usual with a ctrl+click) you get
> instead the right link and the browser open correctly!
> 8. if you leave your mouse cursor on the link both on the pdf and the odt
> documents you will get a correct title yellow lable ("tooltip") too!
> 9. I finally think there is a bug on the pdf export module.
> 10. This is the same if you create the above document with the Insert ->
> Hypertext link menu function.
>
> I have tested this on each new testing release, but only today I have
> found the mental time to write this mail.
> I am also going to search if there is a related issue yet and if not, as I
> used in the near past, I will post a new one.
>
> Have a sunny day,
>
> Carlo
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Calc formulas not working correctly

[P. A. Grubel]

The formulas feed off a couple of worksheets. I will try this when i see 
it again. This is an intermittent problem and there was a time i was 
using the xls format because I was sharing with someone who doesn't have 
LO. I have gone to only using the ods format but there could be left 
over formulas.


thanks,
Pat
On 11/05/2013 04:28 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
When converting a document from MS Office to LibreOffice i usually just use
"Save As ..." and choose ODt, Ods or whatever.  However the document
sometimes doesn't work properly.  In those cases i usually find copying the
contents into a fresh new document created afresh in LibreOffice and
pasting in as "unformatted text"
Ctrl Shift v
rather than normal paste of
Ctrl v
seems to be the only way to get rid of weird MS coding that has been
stuffing-up the document.  I've not actually done this with spreadsheets
and don't know if there is an equivalent.  I would try creating a new Ods
file and then copy the contents of each tab at a time.  Moving the whole
tab into the new file is likely to keep whatever weird coding is in the
worksheet so i would click into the worksheet and do
Ctrl a
Ctrl c
and then click into the new one and do
Ctrl v

Is it possible to test just a couple of worksheets that way or do the
formulas feed off other worksheets?

Regards from
Tom :)



On 1 November 2013 23:05, P. A. Grubel  wrote:


I could not duplicate this with a smaller spreadsheet, but when I
attempted to make the smaller file it recalculated. So, to solve my
problem, I copied a sheet and deleted the copy...then everything
recalculated. Ugh this is not good. I would assume if atleast when I exit
the program and get back in it would calculate. I am using formulas such as
average,  stdev and harmonic means.  I hope someone can duplicate this and
find out what is happening.

Pat

On 11/01/2013 02:54 PM, P. A. Grubel wrote:


Okay this is happening again. This time I copied an entire file to enter
different data. I entered that data but some of my formulas will not
recaclulate. I made a copy of one of file and deleted some sheets to send
it to you but the formulas recalculated in that one.

Ugh~!
On 10/30/2013 11:32 AM, Brian Barker wrote:


At 10:13 30/10/2013 -0600, Pat Grubel wrote:


I am using Version: 4.1.2.3 and all of a sudden my formulas are not
working correctly. I'm using average, stdev and median.  At one point I
copied these formulas and have seen that sometimes they don't update.
Usually if I close the spreadsheet and reopen it they are okay but that
isn't the case today.


At 10:33 30/10/2013 -0600, Pat Grubel wrote:


So i got the formulas to work by recopying them and hitting F9 but I'm
really worried that other formulas are producing incorrect values and I
have many and wouldn't always know when that happens. Should I change to a
different version?


No.  Ensure that Tools | Cell Contents > | AutoCalculate is ticked.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker






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Re: [libreoffice-users] HELP: Frame placement, wrapping, and collision

[Andrew Douglas Pitonyak]

You may have some control if you change how your anchor your frames. For 
example, if you anchor as a character, but then you cannot move it 
around at will.


On 11/07/2013 06:47 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:

Version: 4.1.2.3:build410m0

I have a document with many examples and illustrations.  These are
typically in frames.  I also place tables in frames.

But frames seem to 'flow' *very* poorly.  They may often even end up
overlapping each other and then their placement must be manually
tweaked.  This is very frustrating in a 500+ page document.

Frames seem to wrap with *only* the body text of the document and do
nothing to avoid colliding with each other.

Is there some option I am not setting or some style/technique to get
frames to try to fit naturally into the flow of the text.  Anchor to
paragraph is my typical method; but it seems I really need an
anchor-to-paragraph-getting-as-close-as-you-can option without either
crashing into other frames or leaving a blank inch and a half on the
previous page.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] meager color options

[Kracked_P_P---webmaster]

I sent Jonathon a off list email containing attachments of HTML files
for the PDF page of the color names.

Also, since he listed the names of issues commonly called "color
blindness", I had a PDF print out of the "standard" colors and their
versions for those color issues.  It was a PDF printout of a web site,
and included the page link.

I do not have Oxygen Office, so I do not know what their palette
was/is.  I do not think I will try to install it either.  YET, it seems
to me that the text indicates that Oxygen Office has a much larger
palette of colors.

What is interesting is the fact that the the color "editor" shows the
colors in RGB decimal and the standard.soc has the colors listed in RGB
Hexadecimal.  Since most color charts I have seen uses Hex, why does LO
use decimal and then converts it to Hex for the color palettes?

Crayola Violet - well if you have a source for all 64, 96, or 128 box of
colors, then please let me know.  That would be nice to have - in Hex -
and have those colors as an addition to the color palette.  Plus is you
say that these are Crayola's colors, that might be useful for some
"artists".


On 11/07/2013 06:12 AM, jonathon wrote:
> On 11/06/2013 04:25 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
>
>> Would someone like to have a copy of all of the colors that I have listed in 
>> my color chart page[s]?
> That list looks a lot like the standard palette that shipped with Oxygen
> Office.
>
>> I could work on creating a "standard.soc" file that contains all of these 
>> colors.  I have just over 500 color names and hex codes, though 100 are 
>> levels of gray.
> What are the source(s) of the palettes in the PDF?
> (I just looked at it. )
>
>
>
>
>> I may, when I have a bit of time, create an standard.soc file with all
>> of these colors listed as a replacement for the original one that LO has.
>> I could also add any color name/code that LO uses, like LO Green2, or LO
>> Blue2, etc., that are used in the documentation or on the web pages.
> I knew I was missing some colours in my palette.
> My section with the Colours of LibreOffice, and The Colours of Apache is
> missing.   :(
>
> ###
>
> Why on earth was the RGB value display removed from the colour page?
> Crayloa Violet can be either #8359A3 or #800080 or #EE82EE?
>
> Normal Green is #006600
> Protanopia Normal Green is 99,88,0;
> Deutanopia Normal Green is 109,84,24;
> Tritanoptia Normal Green is 45,95,102
> Fortunately, I keep that set together.
> Part of how it keep my sanity, is by looking at those RGB values.
>
>> But, if there are people who want such a list, then I will place it higher 
>> on my to-do list.
> It took me about thirty minutes to construct and test it.
> (I'm really out of practice, in constructing colour palettes.   It
> should have taken me about a quarter of that time.)
>
> jonathon
>


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 64 bit

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
2 possible ways to make it go faster
Toolos - Options - Memory
and just ramp everything up that looks vaguely relevant.  I tend to take
things up to at least 20Mb but perhaps even higher like 200Mb might be
better.

Also which format are you using?  If native Ods then that should be a lot
faster and better than MS's formats and especially better than the one with
X on the end, such as .XlsX

Third is to use a dedicated spreadsheet tool for hefty jobs like that.
 Gnumeric knocks the spots off Excel and leaves it far behind in your
rear-view mirror.  Again it's best if using it's native Ods format that is
also native to LibreOffice.  However even if your file is in XlsX then
Gnumeric can still open it
https://projects.gnome.org/gnumeric/


It's not particularly unusual to have MS Office, LO (or AOO) and Gnumeric
all on the same machine, perhaps with Scribus or some other proper DTP in
addition.  Office Suites are meant to be a "jack of all trades" but not
necessarily master of any.  While Writer and Draw are more like DTPs than
Word they are still not dedicated to that sort of thing and getting a
proper tool such as Scribus or some LaTeX package takes it to the next
level.  Similarly with Gnumeric.  It doesn't have to worry about
side-issues so it can focus on purely spreadsheet functionality.


Non-OpenSource tries to make 1 monolithic program to do everything but in
OpenSource world we are more into the idea of having different specialist
programs co-operating with each other.  LibreOffice is quite unusual in
that regard because it combines several different sorts of things but that
usually works out superbly in LOs case.  However, there are times when it's
best to find the specialist tool instead
Regards from
Tom :)




H


On 7 November 2013 05:44, Denis Navas Vega  wrote:

> El 2013-11-05 05:51 p.m., Pedro escribió:
>
>> krackedpress wrote
>>
>>> The next thing people will insist on is LO being designed to run on all
>>> 2, 4, 6, or even 8 cores of the CPU at the same time to make it even
>>> faster.
>>>
>>
>> Do you really think it makes sense that Calc and Base are not prepared to
>> use all the computing power available?
>>
>> Why do you think TDF and AMD are trying to bring GPU calculation to LO?
>> Because Calc (I haven't even tried Base...) is absurdly slow!
>>
>> A heavy calculation spreadsheet I have takes 50 "seconds" to open in Excel
>> 2010 and takes more than 10 *minutes* to open in Calc! (both 32bit
>> versions)
>>
>> No wonder Kohei Yoshida (one of, if not *the* main Calc developer) said
>> recently (August 2013): " You can’t compare Calc with Excel yet. They are
>> still miles ahead of us."
>>
>> When Calc is able to use all cores and threads and eventually 64bit
>> operations then it might be on par...
>>
>> Why do you assume the OP isn't doing number crunching?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> documentfoundation.org/64-bit-tp4081444p4081605.html
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>>
>>  I won't insist on 64 bits, because I use machines that work on 32 bits,
> but the affirmation that Excel is more faster than Calc is true.  I have
> been working the last six weeks with databases from a census, and can
> confirm the following:
>
> -- Calc is really slow with lots of data.  When the book requires more
> than 384 MB of memory, it slows down to an impractical speed.  Days ago, I
> spent the whole day building a crosstab.
>
> Open/Save is really slow and does not help a different file format to
> speed up things.
>
> Another difficult thing, is with sorting and filtering.  Is slow too.
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Would somebody be able to help a newbe to LibreOffice.

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Yes.  You are on it.  We are here.

Prolly best to start with some combination of video guides, published
guides and our Faq.

Videos from the "Spoken Tutorials"
http://www.spoken-tutorial.org/list_videos?view=1&foss=LibreOffice-Suite-Writer&language=English
That is specifically for Writer but that is usually a good way to get
started.  Note those are produced by a 3rd party and in a variety of human
languages.  They also do guides for many other OpenSource products so if
you go slightly off-track you might find yourself producing movies instead
with Blender or something.
http://www.spoken-tutorial.org

Published guides, which you can also buy as paper-backs but here is the
free-link
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
somewhere at the bottom of most of them is the link to the bookstore.  Best
to start with Chapter 3 of their "Getting Started Guide"

The Faq for obvious quick questions is
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq
although it is still being translated from the French.  Most sections are
done.  Currently focussing on translating the Calc one from French.  People
are welcome to join in with that or pick one of the other sections.  Base,
Writer and the general one are done but i'm not sure about the others.

Generally i would encourage people to ask questions on this list first and
then start hunting for the answers.  if you find the answer before we do
then just post (perhaps copy&paste) the answer back to this list to let us
know.  There are other mailing lists, forums and an "Ask LO 'bot' " but now
you are here you have already reached the best one (i might be biased
there!)


Mostly LO is almost exactly like MS Office but it's worth getting into
"Styles" asap to get the biggest boost in productivity and quality.  Styles
in MS Office is a painful thing that has to be fought against in order to
stop it flicking between different ones inappropriately but in
LibreOfice/OpenOffice it does the reverse and just smooths things out
making it easier to import unformatted text and quickly bring that into the
same look&feel as the rest of the document.

So, welcome in!
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)




On 7 November 2013 03:08, Bill Gassner  wrote:

> Greetings
>
> Is there a list of willing helpers.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Bill
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[libreoffice-users] HELP: Frame placement, wrapping, and collision

[Adam Tauno Williams]

Version: 4.1.2.3:build410m0

I have a document with many examples and illustrations.  These are
typically in frames.  I also place tables in frames.

But frames seem to 'flow' *very* poorly.  They may often even end up
overlapping each other and then their placement must be manually
tweaked.  This is very frustrating in a 500+ page document.

Frames seem to wrap with *only* the body text of the document and do
nothing to avoid colliding with each other.

Is there some option I am not setting or some style/technique to get
frames to try to fit naturally into the flow of the text.  Anchor to
paragraph is my typical method; but it seems I really need an
anchor-to-paragraph-getting-as-close-as-you-can option without either
crashing into other frames or leaving a blank inch and a half on the
previous page.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Would somebody be able to help a newbe to LibreOffice.

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Wed, 2013-11-06 at 22:08 -0500, Bill Gassner wrote:
> Greetings
> Is there a list of willing helpers

Ask a question, that is the purpose of this list.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] meager color options

[jonathon]

On 11/06/2013 04:25 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

> Would someone like to have a copy of all of the colors that I have listed in 
> my color chart page[s]?

That list looks a lot like the standard palette that shipped with Oxygen
Office.

> I could work on creating a "standard.soc" file that contains all of these 
> colors.  I have just over 500 color names and hex codes, though 100 are 
> levels of gray.

What are the source(s) of the palettes in the PDF?
(I just looked at it. )




> I may, when I have a bit of time, create an standard.soc file with all
> of these colors listed as a replacement for the original one that LO has.

> I could also add any color name/code that LO uses, like LO Green2, or LO
> Blue2, etc., that are used in the documentation or on the web pages.

I knew I was missing some colours in my palette.
My section with the Colours of LibreOffice, and The Colours of Apache is
missing.   :(

###

Why on earth was the RGB value display removed from the colour page?
Crayloa Violet can be either #8359A3 or #800080 or #EE82EE?

Normal Green is #006600
Protanopia Normal Green is 99,88,0;
Deutanopia Normal Green is 109,84,24;
Tritanoptia Normal Green is 45,95,102
Fortunately, I keep that set together.
Part of how it keep my sanity, is by looking at those RGB values.

> But, if there are people who want such a list, then I will place it higher on 
> my to-do list.

It took me about thirty minutes to construct and test it.
(I'm really out of practice, in constructing colour palettes.   It
should have taken me about a quarter of that time.)

jonathon

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Re: [libreoffice-users] meager color options

[jonathon]

On 11/06/2013 05:54 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:

> Please keep in mind, that the color list is used in many places in the
> UI. If there are too many colors, it might make the dialogs and the
> color bar unusable.

System performance is not affected, when 50K colours are in the palette.
It is affected when things akin to _The Ultimate Colour Palette_, whose
URL I posted the other day, are installed. (If you really want to use
that as for your daily work, I hope you have about 1 TB of RAM reserved
for LibO.)

Once there are more than around 200 colours in the palette, the major
issue is finding the specific colour.

How the palette is organized can make the difference between finding the
colour, and not finding it.

The three major ways of organizing the palette are:
* By RGB  or CYMK value;
* By name in English, or other language;
* By placement in the rainbow;
Sorting by RGB, CYMK or name is fairly simple.

Sorting by placement in the rainbow is painstakingly time-consuming.
For various reasons, most people seem to want the palettes to be be
organized that way.

jonathon

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Find/Replace Regex

[Steve Edmonds]

On 2013-11-07 20:19, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:

Hi

Your supposedly non-greedy match is definitely non-greedy here. I have
to hit "Replace" twice on your example input.

What version of LibreOffice are you using? Non-greedy matches are
supported only from 4.0 upwards. So if you are still on 3.x line, then
you are out of luck (or simply upgrade, if you may).

Also, although it's not a case here, it's worth to note that Find and
Replace in Calc will find and select entire cells only. That means, if
only part of cell matches regexp, you will end up with entire cell
selected anyway. If you happen to test your regexpes with "Find" first,
it might lead you to believing your regexp is not working properly.
If in doubts, check your regexpes in Writer.
Thanks. Yes, I am still on 3.x series. I have not converted (and 
checked) yet the files I have that 4.x onwards dropped support for and 
can't update until I have done so.

steve

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