Re: [libreoffice-users] System-wide document template?

2014-02-20 Thread nicolai . rostov
On Thu 2014-02-20 05:08, Dave Barton wrote:
 I thought that Regina had helped you resolve this issue, but...
 
 Yes, there is a global default template, but it is hard wired (coded)
 into the software. That is what the user's default or any other template
 overrides.
 
 Unless there is something extremely abnormal about your plain text file,
 the user default or any other template used definitely will format plain
 text as set in the template. So the question is:
 Are you setting the default template as described here?:
 https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Changing_the_Default_Template
 and in chapter 10 of the Writer User Guide here:
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Writer_Guide
 
 I am cc'ing you with an example template (the list server normally
 strips attachments). You do not have to install or do anything special
 with it. Simply open it in Writer and then use the Insert - File...
 menu option to insert any plain text file. Your text should appear in
 some ugly blue font, with double spaced lines centered on the page.
 
 Please write back to the list and let us know if this works for you.
 
 Regards
 Dave

She did help me a lot. I'm happy with my macro and the shortcut assigned to
it.  Your method also works. But it doesn't preserve the filename, though.

I was just wondering why my default template is ignored when opening plain
text. After all, a plain text obviously doesn't come with a style. My
default template was supposed to take over and provide a style, right?
I thought so.  But this doesn't happen.

This might not be an issue. It's just counterintuitive. Again, I'm fine with
workarounds.

If any one of you think this can be an issue, here is how to reproduce it.

1. Create an empty OpenDocument Text.
2. Modify its Preformatted Text style to double-spacing and serif font.
3. Save this ODT as a template.
4. Make this template your default.
5. Create another empty OpenDocument Text, and you will see that the
   Preformated Text style rightly conforms to your modifications.
6. Close your empty OpenDocument Text.
7. Open any plain text file.
8. This plain text file will not be double-spaced nor in a
   serif font. The Preformatted Style will not conform to your default
   template. It actually goes back to the hard-coded one.

Thank you all for your helpful suggestions.

nr

ps: There is nothing abnormal about my plain text files. They are just prose in
LaTeX that I want to edit using LibreOffice Writer. Writer is just great for
writing prose. Text editors are limited to single-spacing and monospaced
fonts, which is awful for prose writing.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: read-only problem

2014-02-20 Thread edo1
Thanks guys. Saving under a new name works as you suggested. I wonder, does
it rise to a bug that saving and marking read-only causes this lockup? -
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Open plain text with double-spacing

2014-02-20 Thread nicolai . rostov
On Thu 2014-02-20 04:51, Brian Barker wrote:
 o If you need to open the same files repeatedly to edit them, the
 obvious solution is to save them in LibreOffice's native .odt
 format.  So now we have to ask why you need plain text versions of
 the file.  If you wish to print your edited files, you would not
 want to use plain text.  If you wish to exchange your documents with
 others, you would want to use either word-processor formats (such as
 .odt or perhaps .doc) or perhaps PDFs.  You'd need plain text output
 only if you were perhaps feeding your edited results to some other
 application which required this format - and in this case it would
 be a simple matter to save a plain text copy of your edited document
 when necessary.
 
 I trust this helps.
 
 Brian Barker

Exactly. As I said in my last message, I feed plain text into a LaTeX
compiler. I want to edit LaTeX files in an environment with both (i)
double-spaced lines, and (ii) serif fonts. No text editor I'm aware of can
do both.  LibreOffice Writer can.

It's just awful to write prose in single-spaced lines and monospaced fonts.
Writer is way more readable.

Nicolai

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Re: [libreoffice-users] System-wide document template?

2014-02-20 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 20/02/14 08:37, nicolai.ros...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was just wondering why my default template is ignored when opening plain
 text. After all, a plain text obviously doesn't come with a style. My
 default template was supposed to take over and provide a style, right?
 I thought so.  But this doesn't happen.

Template is not ignored, as it will be applied to any new document you
create, but not to a plain text document (or any other document based on
a different template).

A plain text document cannot have a template associated, as it is plain
text (so, only the document contents without any additional information
like font, spacing, margins, etcetera.

Best regards, Italo

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc - sort in to columns

2014-02-20 Thread IGraham
Hello and thanks to Alan  Brian (who replied private)

Yes my choice of words to describe the problem wasn't great, 'sort' was the
first thing I tried so was probably the first to swim up from the murk.

The mock sheet shows a problem from a larger sheet saved as a .xls, stored
within Dropbox and accessed and added to by other people - all of whom have
limited spreadsheet knowledge. Anything I add to the sheet has to add
minimum chance of giving a user the possibility of screwing things up.
Which was why I was keen to present the member type emails in separate
columns to just be used.

So the first thing I tried was 'Auto filter', that worked but the user still
had to select the relevant from up to 60 rows (not a big problem I suppose).
However if a user sorted the sheet and subsequently saved the sheet then the
next user would be presented with a sheet they hadn't seen before, do a bit
of a panic and possibly try to add data in the wrong place. I understand
filters, they 'might' but best not to wear rose tinted glasses.

I also tried 'If' statements. Consternation (include a 'index column +
member type = unique) and VLOOKUP. Neither of which gave good result.

I was trying to set something up that wouldn't mean extra and ongoing work
for me, but maybe just maintaining a simple text file is a way to go.
Possibly this whole 'member details' sheet would now be better served by a
database. But I'm not great at database stuff and I don't know what my users
would make of it.

If you have any other solutions/thoughts I'd be grateful (theres shed loads
of spreadsheet stuff (I know) I don't know)



-
IGraham

W764  LibreOffice 4.2.0.4
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Re: [libreoffice-users] read-only problem

2014-02-20 Thread Stephan Bergmann

On 02/19/2014 06:04 PM, edo1 wrote:

I saved a small (14 page) styled part of a large project as read-only


What exactly do you mean with save as read-only?

Stephan


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Frutiger Font Problem

2014-02-20 Thread Uli Geisler

Am 14.11.2013 16:12, schrieb Kracked_P_P---webmaster:

On 11/14/2013 03:24 AM, Uli Geisler wrote:

On 13.11.2013 18:20, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

On 11/12/2013 09:15 AM, Uli Geisler wrote:

Hi I'm using the Frutiger Font (ttf, linotype) for several Years now
for my work an have al lot of Documents and Templates.

Since upgrading to ubuntu 13.10 (libreoffice upgraded to 4.1.2) the
Frutiger isn't displayed correct in libreoffice-writer. Only the top
half of the Font is visible. If I'm marking Text with the Mouse, the
mark is beside the words. And the spaces between lines of the same
paragraph are different. Typed Characters are displayed after a long
delay

But if I export the Document to PDF, everything is right. If I use the
Frutiger with XeTeX everything is OK. Now I switched to opensuse with
libreoffice 3.6 - everything is fine.

I tryed to Download an install libreoffice 4.1.3 from libreoffice.org:
Same Problems. I think, it's a Problem of libreoffice an not ubuntu or
opensuse...

Does anyone else have similar Problems - and how can I solve them?

(...and sorry for my english...)

Uli




I have the Frutiger Linotype set [normal, bold, italic, etc.] from the
early 2000's [version 1.13] and they work with Ubuntu and LO 4.0.5.

I see that you have tried 3.6 and 4.1.2.

For now, try 4.0.6 [latest of that line] to see if that will OK for you
to use till people can figure out why you are having problems.


4.0.6, downloaded from libreoffice.org: No problem, Fonts are
displayed normal.




GOOD,
hopefully by the time of 4.1.5 this issue will be solved.

4.1.4 comes out at the end of December and 4.1.5 in the first weeks of
February.

There are people who may not upgrade to the 4.1.x line, just because
4.0.x works fine for them.  Some people are still using 3.6.6 or other
earlier versions.

So until the 4.1.x line, or later the 4.2.x line, gets to where you like
it and it does what you want without any issues, I would keep using 4.0.6.

Tested also in 4.2.0.4, same problem, made a comment on bug 68467 
Other: Font (Frutiger family) is displayed wrong on Mac OS X


Uli



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Declare Statment - Calc

2014-02-20 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak


On 02/19/2014 04:08 PM, Bill Martin wrote:

I've tried to implement the simple example shown in the Calc Help system for
the Declare Statement.  Somewhere it expects to find a file: user32.dll but
I have no idea where to find it.  Windows has  many user32.dll files for
it's own use  but presumably none of them are relevant to LibreOffice.The
file does not seem to be included in the DLL files that install with Libre.
So does it need to be downloaded from the web somewhere and manually
installed?I'm just trying to understand how to link Basic to a DLL file so I
can go off and do something more complex.   Thanks.Bill


The point is that the user32.dll file is not relevant to LibreOffice, 
yet you should be able to call methods in it.


What is your operating system? Obviously it is Windows, so, which 
version of windows? 7, 8?


What error do you receive if you try to run the following macro?

Declare Sub MyMessageBeep Lib user32.dll Alias MessageBeep ( Long )
Declare Function CharUpper Lib user32.dll Alias CharUpperA_
   (ByVal lpsz As String) As String

Sub ExampleCallDLL
  REM Convert a string to uppercase
  Dim strIn As String
  Dim strOut As String
  strIn  = i Have Upper and Lower
  strOut = CharUpper(strIn)
  MsgBox Converted:  CHR$(10)  strIn  CHR$(10) _
 To:  CHR$(10)  strOut, 0, Call a DLL Function
  REM On my computer, this plays a system sound
  Dim nBeepLen As Long
  nBeepLen = 5000
  MyMessageBeep(nBeepLen)
  FreeLibrary(user32.dll )
End Sub



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[libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-announce] LibreOffice 4.2.1 is already available to improve the experience of early adopters

2014-02-20 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Hopefully everyone here gets these announcements but since we have
been unusually stressy about it over the last couple of days i
thought i would forward the official announcement so we all know where
we stand.
Regards from
Tom :)


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 4.2. The first minor release - based on a shorter cycle than expected -
 solves over 100 problems, introduced by the larger than usual code
 refactoring of the LibreOffice 4.2 family. Changelog is available here:
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.2.1/RC1.

 LibreOffice 4.2 was extremely ambitious, in terms of code refactoring.
 Because of this, we planned an extensive quality assurance cycle, based
 on automated tests followed by QA sprints in December and January, but
 we were not able to catch all the issues, says Thorsten Behrens,
 Chairman of The Document Foundation. Based on early adopters feedback,
 developers and QA experts have jumped in immediately, and have solved
 the most urgent problems in less than three weeks, showing the
 importance of our large community.

 LibreOffice 4.2.1 and LibreOffice 4.1.5 will be on stage at CeBIT in
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 Download LibreOffice

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Re: [libreoffice-users] System-wide document template?

2014-02-20 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster

On 02/20/2014 03:37 AM, nicolai.ros...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thu 2014-02-20 05:08, Dave Barton wrote:

I thought that Regina had helped you resolve this issue, but...

Yes, there is a global default template, but it is hard wired (coded)
into the software. That is what the user's default or any other template
overrides.

Unless there is something extremely abnormal about your plain text file,
the user default or any other template used definitely will format plain
text as set in the template. So the question is:
Are you setting the default template as described here?:
https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Changing_the_Default_Template
and in chapter 10 of the Writer User Guide here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Writer_Guide

I am cc'ing you with an example template (the list server normally
strips attachments). You do not have to install or do anything special
with it. Simply open it in Writer and then use the Insert - File...
menu option to insert any plain text file. Your text should appear in
some ugly blue font, with double spaced lines centered on the page.

Please write back to the list and let us know if this works for you.

Regards
Dave

She did help me a lot. I'm happy with my macro and the shortcut assigned to
it.  Your method also works. But it doesn't preserve the filename, though.

I was just wondering why my default template is ignored when opening plain
text. After all, a plain text obviously doesn't come with a style. My
default template was supposed to take over and provide a style, right?
I thought so.  But this doesn't happen.

This might not be an issue. It's just counterintuitive. Again, I'm fine with
workarounds.

If any one of you think this can be an issue, here is how to reproduce it.

1. Create an empty OpenDocument Text.
2. Modify its Preformatted Text style to double-spacing and serif font.
3. Save this ODT as a template.
4. Make this template your default.
5. Create another empty OpenDocument Text, and you will see that the
Preformated Text style rightly conforms to your modifications.
6. Close your empty OpenDocument Text.
7. Open any plain text file.
8. This plain text file will not be double-spaced nor in a
serif font. The Preformatted Style will not conform to your default
template. It actually goes back to the hard-coded one.

Thank you all for your helpful suggestions.

nr

ps: There is nothing abnormal about my plain text files. They are just prose in
LaTeX that I want to edit using LibreOffice Writer. Writer is just great for
writing prose. Text editors are limited to single-spacing and monospaced
fonts, which is awful for prose writing.




Yes, I use LibreOffice for plain text, or encoded text, on many 
different types of projects.  For all the others, I use Kate on my 
default Ubuntu system.


Beyond the plain text file question, there is another question here, 
if I read the posts correctly.


You asked how to use your template system wide.  What do you mean by 
system wide.  All users on a single PC, or all PCs [Windows, Mac, or 
Linux] on a network?


If on many networked PCs, were you intention to manually set up the 
network PCs, or to have the template on a network server and each LO 
package go out to the networked drive for that default template.


I know that there are a lot of business networks that want each user's 
computer to have the same packages on it and maybe even use the same 
templates for their documents.  This is an important question for LO to 
be part of a business network.  Can you change the 
ToolsOptionsLibreOfficePathsTemplates to a networked drive or a 
file server?  If so, how is that done, with examples?  I do not remember 
if there are any references for this type of thing in the guides or on 
the wiki pages.  Since this is one of the business options that may be 
required to deploy LO to their network, we need to have some good 
documentation for this, and other network deployment, question[s].


Since I do not use a networked drive or file server, I cannot test out 
any examples that I might be able to give.






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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: read-only problem

2014-02-20 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster

On 02/20/2014 03:43 AM, edo1 wrote:

Thanks guys. Saving under a new name works as you suggested. I wonder, does
it rise to a bug that saving and marking read-only causes this lockup? -
edo1



I have been using the save as new name for many years.  I have done 
this with LO, OOo, and earlier word processors, since the early days of 
Windows PCs.


As for a bug, I do not know what you are stating the bug would be.  It 
is not clear to me this morning.  If you are saying that trying to edit 
a read-only file, or use the standard Save option freezes or locks up 
LO, then this might be a bug.


To be honest, I tend to open documents that are attached to an email, 
directly into LO.  Unless I save the file before opening it, I cannot 
edit it.  That includes doing the Save As option.  I tend to open 
these documents, from trusted people I deal with on a weekly or monthly 
basis, before I save them outside of the temporary folders the system 
stores them in.  That way, I can decide if I want to save them or not.  
A good third of these documents I do not need, so they are not saved.


So, the use of Save As with read-only files, created as read-only in 
various ways and reasons, is something that is a part of my office suite 
activities since the early 90's.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Frutiger Font Problem

2014-02-20 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster

On 02/20/2014 06:15 AM, Uli Geisler wrote:

Am 14.11.2013 16:12, schrieb Kracked_P_P---webmaster:

On 11/14/2013 03:24 AM, Uli Geisler wrote:

On 13.11.2013 18:20, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

On 11/12/2013 09:15 AM, Uli Geisler wrote:

Hi I'm using the Frutiger Font (ttf, linotype) for several Years now
for my work an have al lot of Documents and Templates.

Since upgrading to ubuntu 13.10 (libreoffice upgraded to 4.1.2) the
Frutiger isn't displayed correct in libreoffice-writer. Only the top
half of the Font is visible. If I'm marking Text with the Mouse, the
mark is beside the words. And the spaces between lines of the same
paragraph are different. Typed Characters are displayed after a long
delay

But if I export the Document to PDF, everything is right. If I use 
the

Frutiger with XeTeX everything is OK. Now I switched to opensuse with
libreoffice 3.6 - everything is fine.

I tryed to Download an install libreoffice 4.1.3 from 
libreoffice.org:
Same Problems. I think, it's a Problem of libreoffice an not 
ubuntu or

opensuse...

Does anyone else have similar Problems - and how can I solve them?

(...and sorry for my english...)

Uli




I have the Frutiger Linotype set [normal, bold, italic, etc.] 
from the

early 2000's [version 1.13] and they work with Ubuntu and LO 4.0.5.

I see that you have tried 3.6 and 4.1.2.

For now, try 4.0.6 [latest of that line] to see if that will OK for 
you

to use till people can figure out why you are having problems.


4.0.6, downloaded from libreoffice.org: No problem, Fonts are
displayed normal.




GOOD,
hopefully by the time of 4.1.5 this issue will be solved.

4.1.4 comes out at the end of December and 4.1.5 in the first weeks of
February.

There are people who may not upgrade to the 4.1.x line, just because
4.0.x works fine for them.  Some people are still using 3.6.6 or other
earlier versions.

So until the 4.1.x line, or later the 4.2.x line, gets to where you like
it and it does what you want without any issues, I would keep using 
4.0.6.


Tested also in 4.2.0.4, same problem, made a comment on bug 68467 
Other: Font (Frutiger family) is displayed wrong on Mac OS X


Ul


Has anyone seen this font issue with Frutiger, or other fonts, on 
Windows or Linux?  Is this just a Mac issue?


I am asking this, since I have some packages that install several 
Frutiger fonts [if I remember correctly] during their standard install 
process.  I do not use Mac, so if anyone has seem this on Windows, or 
Linux, then I will have to look into this.  To be honest, I tend to 
remove unneeded fonts, like Frutiger, since I have too many specialty 
fonts to keep in my font folders for specialty work.  Since I 
currently do not use that font, I removed it.


I stated I have the early 2000's era fonts.  I do not remember if you 
are using newer ones or not.  I just wonder if there are any differences 
in the old versions of the font set, vs. the newer versions.






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Re: [libreoffice-users] Frutiger Font Problem

2014-02-20 Thread Uli

Am 20.02.2014 15:38, schrieb Kracked_P_P---webmaster:

On 02/20/2014 06:15 AM, Uli Geisler wrote:

Am 14.11.2013 16:12, schrieb Kracked_P_P---webmaster:

On 11/14/2013 03:24 AM, Uli Geisler wrote:

On 13.11.2013 18:20, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

On 11/12/2013 09:15 AM, Uli Geisler wrote:

Hi I'm using the Frutiger Font (ttf, linotype) for several Years now
for my work an have al lot of Documents and Templates.

Since upgrading to ubuntu 13.10 (libreoffice upgraded to 4.1.2) the
Frutiger isn't displayed correct in libreoffice-writer. Only the top
half of the Font is visible. If I'm marking Text with the Mouse, the
mark is beside the words. And the spaces between lines of the same
paragraph are different. Typed Characters are displayed after a long
delay

But if I export the Document to PDF, everything is right. If I use
the
Frutiger with XeTeX everything is OK. Now I switched to opensuse with
libreoffice 3.6 - everything is fine.

I tryed to Download an install libreoffice 4.1.3 from
libreoffice.org:
Same Problems. I think, it's a Problem of libreoffice an not
ubuntu or
opensuse...

Does anyone else have similar Problems - and how can I solve them?

(...and sorry for my english...)

Uli




I have the Frutiger Linotype set [normal, bold, italic, etc.]
from the
early 2000's [version 1.13] and they work with Ubuntu and LO 4.0.5.

I see that you have tried 3.6 and 4.1.2.

For now, try 4.0.6 [latest of that line] to see if that will OK for
you
to use till people can figure out why you are having problems.


4.0.6, downloaded from libreoffice.org: No problem, Fonts are
displayed normal.




GOOD,
hopefully by the time of 4.1.5 this issue will be solved.

4.1.4 comes out at the end of December and 4.1.5 in the first weeks of
February.

There are people who may not upgrade to the 4.1.x line, just because
4.0.x works fine for them.  Some people are still using 3.6.6 or other
earlier versions.

So until the 4.1.x line, or later the 4.2.x line, gets to where you like
it and it does what you want without any issues, I would keep using
4.0.6.


Tested also in 4.2.0.4, same problem, made a comment on bug 68467
Other: Font (Frutiger family) is displayed wrong on Mac OS X

Ul


Has anyone seen this font issue with Frutiger, or other fonts, on
Windows or Linux?  Is this just a Mac issue?

I'm working on Linux (Debian 7.4, Ubuntu 13.10, Opensuse 13.1)



I am asking this, since I have some packages that install several
Frutiger fonts [if I remember correctly] during their standard install
process.  I do not use Mac, so if anyone has seem this on Windows, or
Linux, then I will have to look into this.  To be honest, I tend to
remove unneeded fonts, like Frutiger, since I have too many specialty
fonts to keep in my font folders for specialty work.  Since I
currently do not use that font, I removed it.

I can't, cause I need it for my work...



I stated I have the early 2000's era fonts.  I do not remember if you
are using newer ones or not.  I just wonder if there are any differences
in the old versions of the font set, vs. the newer versions.

Mine is Version 6.4 from 2002...



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Re: [libreoffice-users] read-only problem

2014-02-20 Thread Mark Bourne

edo1 wrote:

I saved a small (14 page) styled part of a large project as read-only to
protect
against accidents while I did something else.


How did you do this? e.g.:
- saved the file, then from Windows Explorer set the read only attribute?
- set File  Properties  Security  Open file as read-only in 
LibreOffice before saving the file?

- or something else?


Later wanting to check a
style, I
unchecked read-only and reopened the file.


As far as I'm aware, this should have worked - assuming you removed the 
same option as you originally set. But again, what exactly did you do?



Yet it still opens as read-only
and
styles and formatting is grayed out. Does anyone know how this can happen
and how I can prevent it?


Usually, editing is disabled if the file is read-only when it's opened; 
if the read-only attribute is changed while the file is open, it does 
not affect the editing options available. But you say you reopened the 
file after unchecking the read-only option, so I wouldn't expect that to 
be a problem.


About the 5th icon in on the toolbar is one which looks like a pencil 
and paper, and hovering over it shows a tooltip Edit File. You could 
try clicking that, and then see if you can edit the file. This just 
allows or prohibits editing the document on-screen; it doesn't change 
the read-only attribute on the file, so you still might not be able to 
save the file with the same name if that attribute is still set for some 
reason.




The best I could do was copy the contents into a new file from which I could
retrieve the styles. That work-around will be a great pain with the rest of
the
project. I'm running LO 4.2.0.4 in Win7 x64. Thanks for any help! - edo1


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Declare Statment - Calc

2014-02-20 Thread Bill Martin
Win XP is on the particular old machine I'm using.  No error message, just
doesn't seem to work properly.  Just an error beep, not a tone of specified
duration.  Since Win XP is scattered full of files named user32.dll, I
presume Libre was just picking up the wrong one.

Once I gave up on the example though, I went back to my own DLL code and
Basic program.  I finally got it to work if I put my DLL in the Libre bin
subdirectory.  Libre wouldn't find it when I placed the DLL in with my ODS
files as Excel would have.  

Apparently I need to somehow tweak the Libre settings to make it look for
the DLL in the same subdirectory as my spreadsheet files.  Providing a fully
specified path name for the DLL in the Declare statement wasn't the answer.

Thanks.

Bill 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Frutiger Font Problem

2014-02-20 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster

On 02/20/2014 09:58 AM, Uli wrote:

Am 20.02.2014 15:38, schrieb Kracked_P_P---webmaster:

On 02/20/2014 06:15 AM, Uli Geisler wrote:

Am 14.11.2013 16:12, schrieb Kracked_P_P---webmaster:





snip




GOOD,
hopefully by the time of 4.1.5 this issue will be solved.

4.1.4 comes out at the end of December and 4.1.5 in the first weeks of
February.

There are people who may not upgrade to the 4.1.x line, just because
4.0.x works fine for them.  Some people are still using 3.6.6 or other
earlier versions.

So until the 4.1.x line, or later the 4.2.x line, gets to where you 
like

it and it does what you want without any issues, I would keep using
4.0.6.


Tested also in 4.2.0.4, same problem, made a comment on bug 68467
Other: Font (Frutiger family) is displayed wrong on Mac OS X

Ul


Has anyone seen this font issue with Frutiger, or other fonts, on
Windows or Linux?  Is this just a Mac issue?

I'm working on Linux (Debian 7.4, Ubuntu 13.10, Opensuse 13.1)



I am asking this, since I have some packages that install several
Frutiger fonts [if I remember correctly] during their standard install
process.  I do not use Mac, so if anyone has seem this on Windows, or
Linux, then I will have to look into this.  To be honest, I tend to
remove unneeded fonts, like Frutiger, since I have too many specialty
fonts to keep in my font folders for specialty work.  Since I
currently do not use that font, I removed it.

I can't, cause I need it for my work...



I stated I have the early 2000's era fonts.  I do not remember if you
are using newer ones or not.  I just wonder if there are any differences
in the old versions of the font set, vs. the newer versions.

Mine is Version 6.4 from 2002...



Yes, there are people who require specific fonts for projects.  I had to 
get an Adobe font library one year, from the people who required these 
fonts.  I still have it, since they did not ask for them back.  I really 
hope this issues get resolved properly for you.  If it displays off 
but prints correct, then sometimes it may work for people.  But if the 
fonts print out off then that is really bad.


Your version is a little newer than mine, it seems.  I have had some 
problems with quality issues between different versions of some other 
fonts, that are in my font library folders.


I use only XP, Win7, and Ubuntu 12.04LTS/MATE, at this time.  Ubuntu is 
my desktop, with the others for laptops and other secondary systems.


By the way, what desktop environments do you use?  I do not like Unity, 
so I use MATE to have the 10.04 feel on Ubuntu 12.04 and newer.  
Sometimes, I have heard form others, that some desktops may display the 
same document or package's editing window differently.  I have not 
seen it with 10.04/GNOME and 11.xx, 12.04, and 13.xx with MATE desktop 
environment.  But a few people I have email conversations with, a while 
ago, did tell me their desktop environment issues.  Of course, that 
was in the early late 3.x and early 4.0.x time frame.






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[libreoffice-users] Congratulations to our QA Volunteers!

2014-02-20 Thread Robinson Tryon
The Document Foundation and the LibreOffice QA Team congratulate
volunteers Thomas Hackert and Ahitagni Mandal on their contributions
to our QA Triage Contest. We've sent each of them a Kiva Card
(http://www.kiva.org/) and give them our hearty thanks for their work
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LibreOffice QA holds Community Bug-hunting/Triage events 1-2 times
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Re: [libreoffice-users] System-wide document template?

2014-02-20 Thread Nicolai Rostov
On Thu 2014-02-20 09:19, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
 ---CUT---
 You asked how to use your template system wide.  What do you mean
 by system wide.  All users on a single PC, or all PCs [Windows,
 Mac, or Linux] on a network?
 ---CUT---

Sorry to disappoint you here. I don't have much to say about LO and
networking. By system wide I mean my particular laptop wide.

I was just wondring if I can fool LO Writer into displaying plain text
content as serif+doublespaced by default. Maybe by tweaking something under
/usr instead of ~/.config/libreoffice/

Thanks.
nr

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Frutiger Font Problem

2014-02-20 Thread Uli Geisler

Am 20.02.2014 18:16, schrieb Kracked_P_P---webmaster:

On 02/20/2014 09:58 AM, Uli wrote:

Am 20.02.2014 15:38, schrieb Kracked_P_P---webmaster:

On 02/20/2014 06:15 AM, Uli Geisler wrote:

Am 14.11.2013 16:12, schrieb Kracked_P_P---webmaster:





snip




GOOD,
hopefully by the time of 4.1.5 this issue will be solved.

4.1.4 comes out at the end of December and 4.1.5 in the first weeks of
February.

There are people who may not upgrade to the 4.1.x line, just because
4.0.x works fine for them.  Some people are still using 3.6.6 or other
earlier versions.

So until the 4.1.x line, or later the 4.2.x line, gets to where you
like
it and it does what you want without any issues, I would keep using
4.0.6.


Tested also in 4.2.0.4, same problem, made a comment on bug 68467
Other: Font (Frutiger family) is displayed wrong on Mac OS X

Ul


Has anyone seen this font issue with Frutiger, or other fonts, on
Windows or Linux?  Is this just a Mac issue?

I'm working on Linux (Debian 7.4, Ubuntu 13.10, Opensuse 13.1)



I am asking this, since I have some packages that install several
Frutiger fonts [if I remember correctly] during their standard install
process.  I do not use Mac, so if anyone has seem this on Windows, or
Linux, then I will have to look into this.  To be honest, I tend to
remove unneeded fonts, like Frutiger, since I have too many specialty
fonts to keep in my font folders for specialty work.  Since I
currently do not use that font, I removed it.

I can't, cause I need it for my work...



I stated I have the early 2000's era fonts.  I do not remember if you
are using newer ones or not.  I just wonder if there are any differences
in the old versions of the font set, vs. the newer versions.

Mine is Version 6.4 from 2002...



Yes, there are people who require specific fonts for projects.  I had to
get an Adobe font library one year, from the people who required these
fonts.  I still have it, since they did not ask for them back.  I really
hope this issues get resolved properly for you.  If it displays off
but prints correct, then sometimes it may work for people.  But if the
fonts print out off then that is really bad.

In my case I need the correct display.


Your version is a little newer than mine, it seems.  I have had some
problems with quality issues between different versions of some other
fonts, that are in my font library folders.
Beside Frutiger I have only those fonts, which are installed as default 
by Debian, Ubuntu...




I use only XP, Win7, and Ubuntu 12.04LTS/MATE, at this time.  Ubuntu is
my desktop, with the others for laptops and other secondary systems.

By the way, what desktop environments do you use?  I do not like Unity,
so I use MATE to have the 10.04 feel on Ubuntu 12.04 and newer.
Sometimes, I have heard form others, that some desktops may display the
same document or package's editing window differently.  I have not
seen it with 10.04/GNOME and 11.xx, 12.04, and 13.xx with MATE desktop
environment.  But a few people I have email conversations with, a while
ago, did tell me their desktop environment issues.  Of course, that
was in the early late 3.x and early 4.0.x time frame.
I'm using Debian 7.4 for work on Desktop (and OpenSuse 13.1 as second 
Linux) and Ubuntu 13.1 on my Laptop.


For my every days work I'm on Gnome (Debian), Unity (Ubuntu) and 
sometimes KDE (OpenSuse or Debian)


Everywhere the same issue with Frutiger font... and only in Libreoffice.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: read-only problem

2014-02-20 Thread edo1
sberg wrote
 On 02/19/2014 06:04 PM, edo1 wrote:
 I saved a small (14 page) styled part of a large project as read-only
 
 What exactly do you mean with save as read-only?
 
 Stephan

In windows: After the file is saved to some folder, go to that folder and
right-click (if you're right-handed) on the file name; choose Properties
and check off read only on the popup panel. SOP

Sorry this reply is late . Yesterday's message seems to have gotten lost in
the void . edo1




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[libreoffice-users] Re: read-only problem

2014-02-20 Thread edo1
Mark Bourne wrote
 edo1 wrote:
 I saved a small (14 page) styled part of a large project as read-only to
 protect
 against accidents while I did something else.
 
 How did you do this? e.g.:
 - saved the file, then from Windows Explorer set the read only
 attribute?
 - set File  Properties  Security  Open file as read-only in 
 LibreOffice before saving the file?
 - or something else?
 
 Later wanting to check a
 style, I
 unchecked read-only and reopened the file.
 
 As far as I'm aware, this should have worked - assuming you removed the 
 same option as you originally set. But again, what exactly did you do?
 
 Yet it still opens as read-only
 and
 styles and formatting is grayed out. Does anyone know how this can
 happen
 and how I can prevent it?
 
 Usually, editing is disabled if the file is read-only when it's opened; 
 if the read-only attribute is changed while the file is open, it does 
 not affect the editing options available. But you say you reopened the 
 file after unchecking the read-only option, so I wouldn't expect that to 
 be a problem.
 
 About the 5th icon in on the toolbar is one which looks like a pencil 
 and paper, and hovering over it shows a tooltip Edit File. You could 
 try clicking that, and then see if you can edit the file. This just 
 allows or prohibits editing the document on-screen; it doesn't change 
 the read-only attribute on the file, so you still might not be able to 
 save the file with the same name if that attribute is still set for some 
 reason.

our right. I was using the Windows Properties panel, I'd forgotten 
about the panel in LO itself. Problem solved, thanks - edo1




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Open plain text with double-spacing

2014-02-20 Thread e-letter
On 20/02/2014, nicolai.ros...@gmail.com nicolai.ros...@gmail.com wrote:

 Exactly. As I said in my last message, I feed plain text into a LaTeX
 compiler. I want to edit LaTeX files in an environment with both (i)
 double-spaced lines, and (ii) serif fonts. No text editor I'm aware of can
 do both.  LibreOffice Writer can.


You should be able to achieve this by configuration of default
settings in lyx, which in case you are unaware can compile latex also.

 It's just awful to write prose in single-spaced lines and monospaced fonts.
 Writer is way more readable.


If you really prefer a text-editor, jedit offers nice ways to make
text look nice, including choice of background colour.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc - sort in to columns

2014-02-20 Thread Paul
Just tried something that *may* work for you: pivot tables.

On your sample spreadsheet, I did the following:

* Select all the data, header row included.
* Select Data | Pivot Table | Create.
* With Current selection selected, click OK.
* Drag member type and email to Row Fields.
* Click OK.

A new sheet is created with the pivot table, which has the data sorted
by member type, with all the email addresses listed per type.

Note that if data is added, it won't automatically show up in the pivot
table. You can right-click in the pivot table and select Edit Layout,
then click More and change the Selection from value to include the
new rows of data. If you set the last row to be beyond the end of the
current data, you will get a new member type in the pivot table
called (empty), but any data now added in empty rows that are still
within the pivot table selection will show up if you right-click on the
pivot table and select Refresh.

This isn't really what pivot tables are for, and may not suit your
needs, but given what you've described of your needs, this may be a
sufficient workaround.

You haven't really given us a proper explanation of what you are trying
to do, so it's hard to guess what might suit your needs best, but it
does sound like a database would be the best solution here, or perhaps
user defined functions (i.e. coded macros) in Calc. Short of that,
I think that you'll probably need to manually maintain a list of
email addresses per member type, either in a separate file, or still
manually in your columns as per the example file. Even using a pivot
table, you'll have to either adjust the selection when data is added,
or make the selection bigger than the data and just refresh when data
is added, and hope the data doesn't go beyond the end of the selection,
in which case you'll still need to adjust the selection.

Maybe if you give us more details we can come up with better
suggestions.

Hope this helped.

Paul



On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 01:17:47 -0800 (PST)
IGraham gra...@lovatt.co.uk wrote:

 Hello and thanks to Alan  Brian (who replied private)
 
 Yes my choice of words to describe the problem wasn't great, 'sort'
 was the first thing I tried so was probably the first to swim up from
 the murk.
 
 The mock sheet shows a problem from a larger sheet saved as a .xls,
 stored within Dropbox and accessed and added to by other people - all
 of whom have limited spreadsheet knowledge. Anything I add to the
 sheet has to add minimum chance of giving a user the possibility of
 screwing things up. Which was why I was keen to present the member
 type emails in separate columns to just be used.
 
 So the first thing I tried was 'Auto filter', that worked but the
 user still had to select the relevant from up to 60 rows (not a big
 problem I suppose). However if a user sorted the sheet and
 subsequently saved the sheet then the next user would be presented
 with a sheet they hadn't seen before, do a bit of a panic and
 possibly try to add data in the wrong place. I understand filters,
 they 'might' but best not to wear rose tinted glasses.
 
 I also tried 'If' statements. Consternation (include a 'index column +
 member type = unique) and VLOOKUP. Neither of which gave good result.
 
 I was trying to set something up that wouldn't mean extra and ongoing
 work for me, but maybe just maintaining a simple text file is a way
 to go. Possibly this whole 'member details' sheet would now be better
 served by a database. But I'm not great at database stuff and I don't
 know what my users would make of it.
 
 If you have any other solutions/thoughts I'd be grateful (theres shed
 loads of spreadsheet stuff (I know) I don't know)
 
 
 
 -
 IGraham
 
 W764  LibreOffice 4.2.0.4
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[libreoffice-users] Spellcheck/ Grammar highlighting

2014-02-20 Thread kdawes01
When I run Spell/Grammar check, LibreOffice nicely underlines the incorrect
items.

However, I find it very difficult to *see* the underlineings. Is there a way
to highlight the incorrect items with a background color?

That would be *so* much easier to see!

Thanks!



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[libreoffice-users] Gray boxes on copy paste from browser

2014-02-20 Thread shawnyve
Windows 7 -  latest release. Writer - several different releases over last
6-8 months which was when I installed libre office on a new comp.

Background info: I'm a moderator for a writers workshop forum and we turn
our lessons into a PDF at the end of a workshop. 

When I copy/paste from chrome into writer I end up with small gray boxes
(one space height/width) scattered through my document. To get rid of them I
must either delete each one or paste to textpad and then back which of
course loses all formatting. I've also tried firefox and copy/pasting from
other forums/pages. I've even opened an emailed doc where the sender copied
from a browser and the boxes still show up. 

Libre must be converting some formatting marks but I have no idea which ones
or how to fix. The spaces show up on paragraph starts, and also inside
paragraphs. Most often where formatting of italics/bolds/dates/links start
but not always. 

I hope someone can help as I'm stumped and will have to return to open
office as this is a time sink. :(



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