[libreoffice-users] Installing LO versions to run in parallel on the same computer

2014-10-30 Thread Gary Collins

   Hi, I've tried installing the secfix version of LO to run in parallel 
with the version I generally use (on Windows 7). The instructions in the link 
were unclear (or just plain wrong), but I did finally manage to get the 
installer to complete, apparently successfully, i.e. the installer wizard 
reported that install was OK and the files appear to be there, but when I try 
to start  it up it crashes with the error
Application Error: The application was unable to start correctly 
(0xc07b)
Does anyone have the explanation (and hopefully also the remedy) for 
this?Thanks,/Gary


  
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[libreoffice-users] request

2014-10-30 Thread Tomáš Matýs
I would like to see updated announcements in official Libreoffice Google+
account https://plus.google.com/+libreoffice/posts, Maybe I am repeating
myself,but official Libreoffice Google+ account is not updated constantly-
very probably it is a bug- Few examples: The last two posts by Document
Foundation about bug hunting session and release of two new versions of
libreoffice, when they were published in Blog of Document Foundation it was
automaticly published within few seconds on Facebook and Twitter but on
google+ nothing and it is for a long time now. So I would like to ask for
help from who has the official rights to put missing posts on Google+ and
try to repair the connection between Google+ and official blog of Document
Foundation. Keep on your excellent  work guys.
With the best regards
Tomáš Matýs

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[libreoffice-users] Recommended version of Java?

2014-10-30 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello,

Is there a page somewhere that specifies what version(s) of Java are
supported for what versions of Libreoffice?

Specifically, is Java8 fully supported for version 4.1.x? 4.2.x? 4.3.x?

Thanks

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing LO versions to run in parallel on the same computer

2014-10-30 Thread V Stuart Foote
Gary Collins wrote
    Hi, I've tried installing the secfix version of LO to run in parallel
 with the version I generally use (on Windows 7). The instructions in the
 link were unclear (or just plain wrong), but I did finally manage to get
 the installer to complete, apparently successfully, i.e. the installer
 wizard reported that install was OK and the files appear to be
 there, but when I try to start  it up it crashes with the error
 Application Error: The application was unable to start correctly
 (0xc07b)
 Does anyone have the explanation (and hopefully also the remedy) for
 this?Thanks,/Gary

Gary,

I do hundreds of these installs, and at the moment in addition to current
4.3.3.2 build, I have 16 parallel builds of prior release and TB daily
builds available to use on Windows.  So, doing this is second nature to me. 

I just reviewed the in parallel instructions for Windows builds (Version
3.5.x and newer) on the Wiki:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel

Two key points for in parallel loads that should help you sort things:

On Windows builds we use the Microsoft Installer mechanism to perform an
Administrative installation of the package with the /A flag.  Lots of
general support online for what happens with Administrative installations of
.msi packages.  But the important part is that the typical installation does
not actually install anything--it just fully extracts it to the system.  And
the step to specify the target directory  with TARGETDIR= is very necessary
to do things consistently into a location other than the Download folder.
Personally  I set it to a folder named for the build on the C: drive, e.g.
TARGETDIR=C:\LO42363_20140904

The other aspect, in the User Configuration section of the Wiki, is that the
default extraction sets the program to use  an internal LibreOffice variable
$SYSUSERCONFIG that on launch points to your Windows %APPDATA%
directory--and would interfere with content of your actual installation.  To
run installs in parallel, in the program directory the bootstrap.ini file is
edited to change the variable to $ORIGIN (i.e. where program is being
launched from) and giving it a relative path /../Data/settings to keep
everything on execution within the parallel installation.

If you get those to facets correct, things should run well for you.  If not,
it is possible that the downloaded .msi installer was corrupt.  You can
check that for the release builds by reviewing either the hash values, or
PGP signature of the file you download.  The released builds are here:
http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/  and drill
down to the Windows folder where hash and signatures are on the details
links. Verify your download.

Hope that was clear for you, but post back if still stuck.

Stuart



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing Reports from BASE extends to Writer?

2014-10-30 Thread Paul D. Mirowsky

Yes, that seems correct.

On 10/29/2014 4:55 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
Are you asking if it is possible to use a macro to open a document and 
then print it?


On 10/28/2014 11:56 PM, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote:
Can this be extended to Writer document, eliminating the requirement 
of opening Writer and selecting 'Print'?


On 10/28/2014 4:05 AM, Walther Koehler wrote:

Hi Peter

just another proposal:

sub printreport()

Dim oDoc as Object
Dim arg(0) as new com.sun.star.beans.PropertyValue

oDoc=ThisComponent
arg(0).name = Name
arg(0).value =   myprinter   
oDoc.printPages(arg())
end sub

Yours
Walther

Am Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2014 schrieb Peter Goggin:

On 28/10/14 15:01, Marion  Noel Lodge wrote:

Hi Peter,

A macro similar to this should do what you want -

Sub PrintReport()
ThisDatabaseDocument.ReportDocuments.getbyname(name of your
report).open()
End Sub

Then edit your Menu form, double click on the Print button and under
Events

| 'Mouse button pressed', link the button to the PrintReport() 
sub.  Then


when you run your application, clicking on the button should fire 
your

report.

Noel
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On 28 October 2014 13:24, Peter Goggin petergog...@bigpond.com 
wrote:
I have a report run from a push button on a menu form. I can 
print it
from the screen, but in Access I was able to program a push 
button to

print id directly.  Is this possible in BASE? I cannot find any
reference to this.

Regards


Peter Goggin

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Thanks for the suggestion. However all the subroutine does is display
the report on the screen. I want to be able to send it to the printer
without first displaying it on the screen. So far I cannot see any
reference on how to doi this.

Regards

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Recommended version of Java?

2014-10-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I think it's best to do without Java if at all possible.  Since Oracle took
it over and put their own devs onto it Java appears to have been unstable
and vulnerable.  Some of their security patches and upgrades have been so
full of holes that there have been known exploits out in the wild even
before their release date that they had to shelve them.

LibreOffice has worked hard to remove any dependence on Java but there are
still a few incredibly rare things that still need it.  Accessibility
support is moving off Java.  The inbuilt back-end for Base is migrating to
Firebird

It might be possible to use;
Tools - Options - Advanced
to switch off java.  Hopefully no data-loss occurs and it just grumbles
when something does need Java.  If you do get such an error message then it
should be reasonably easy to switch java back on and re-try the task.

Good luck!
Regards from
Tom :)



On 30 October 2014 11:18, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:

 Hello,

 Is there a page somewhere that specifies what version(s) of Java are
 supported for what versions of Libreoffice?

 Specifically, is Java8 fully supported for version 4.1.x? 4.2.x? 4.3.x?

 Thanks

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Re: [libreoffice-users] request

2014-10-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It might be something you could take over?  Most such things become
dependant on 1 or 2 isolated people and if they disappear or go on holiday,
or illness, or get caught-up in other things, or just forget then those
things don't get done.

Ideally there would always be 1 new person and 1 back-up person ready to
step-in to take over such things and a steady turn-over of people.  Sadly
it rarely works that way.

So it might be possible for you to join the marketing team and get involved
in taking on that task.
Regards from
Tom :)




On 30 October 2014 11:15, Tomáš Matýs thommat...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would like to see updated announcements in official Libreoffice Google+
 account https://plus.google.com/+libreoffice/posts, Maybe I am repeating
 myself,but official Libreoffice Google+ account is not updated constantly-
 very probably it is a bug- Few examples: The last two posts by Document
 Foundation about bug hunting session and release of two new versions of
 libreoffice, when they were published in Blog of Document Foundation it was
 automaticly published within few seconds on Facebook and Twitter but on
 google+ nothing and it is for a long time now. So I would like to ask for
 help from who has the official rights to put missing posts on Google+ and
 try to repair the connection between Google+ and official blog of Document
 Foundation. Keep on your excellent  work guys.
 With the best regards
 Tomáš Matýs

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Recommended version of Java?

2014-10-30 Thread Tanstaafl
I really hate it when people try to tell me something 'for my own good'.

Tom - I asked a very specific question. I didn't ask whether or not I
should be using Java.

On 10/30/2014 10:26 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi :)
 I think it's best to do without Java if at all possible.  Since Oracle took
 it over and put their own devs onto it Java appears to have been unstable
 and vulnerable.  Some of their security patches and upgrades have been so
 full of holes that there have been known exploits out in the wild even
 before their release date that they had to shelve them.
 
 LibreOffice has worked hard to remove any dependence on Java but there are
 still a few incredibly rare things that still need it.  Accessibility
 support is moving off Java.  The inbuilt back-end for Base is migrating to
 Firebird
 
 It might be possible to use;
 Tools - Options - Advanced
 to switch off java.  Hopefully no data-loss occurs and it just grumbles
 when something does need Java.  If you do get such an error message then it
 should be reasonably easy to switch java back on and re-try the task.
 
 Good luck!
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
 
 On 30 October 2014 11:18, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
 
 Hello,

 Is there a page somewhere that specifies what version(s) of Java are
 supported for what versions of Libreoffice?

 Specifically, is Java8 fully supported for version 4.1.x? 4.2.x? 4.3.x?

 Thanks


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Recommended version of Java?

2014-10-30 Thread Tanstaafl
On 10/30/2014 11:29 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi :) 
 Sorry!  I was trying to say that it might be difficult to get an answer. 
 
 Java updates are too frequent and unreliable so tracking them would be
 tricky.  Oracle are not particularly open and talkative about their
 problems.  In the past they have been quite hostile towards LibreOffice. 

No, it should be very easy to answer - for someone who knows.

Obviously you don't, so why not just stop talking and wait for someone
who does?

;)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Recommended version of Java?

2014-10-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Sorry!  I was trying to say that it might be difficult to get an answer.

Java updates are too frequent and unreliable so tracking them would be
tricky.  Oracle are not particularly open and talkative about their
problems.  In the past they have been quite hostile towards LibreOffice.

There is an openJDK project.  It's also owned by Oracle but has had quite
a big community to iron-out some of the problems that mainstream Java has
Regards from
Tom :)




On 30 October 2014 15:11, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:

 I really hate it when people try to tell me something 'for my own good'.

 Tom - I asked a very specific question. I didn't ask whether or not I
 should be using Java.

 On 10/30/2014 10:26 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi :)
  I think it's best to do without Java if at all possible.  Since Oracle
 took
  it over and put their own devs onto it Java appears to have been unstable
  and vulnerable.  Some of their security patches and upgrades have been so
  full of holes that there have been known exploits out in the wild even
  before their release date that they had to shelve them.
 
  LibreOffice has worked hard to remove any dependence on Java but there
 are
  still a few incredibly rare things that still need it.  Accessibility
  support is moving off Java.  The inbuilt back-end for Base is migrating
 to
  Firebird
 
  It might be possible to use;
  Tools - Options - Advanced
  to switch off java.  Hopefully no data-loss occurs and it just grumbles
  when something does need Java.  If you do get such an error message then
 it
  should be reasonably easy to switch java back on and re-try the task.
 
  Good luck!
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
 
 
  On 30 October 2014 11:18, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  Is there a page somewhere that specifies what version(s) of Java are
  supported for what versions of Libreoffice?
 
  Specifically, is Java8 fully supported for version 4.1.x? 4.2.x? 4.3.x?
 
  Thanks


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Recommended version of Java?

2014-10-30 Thread V Stuart Foote
Tanstaafl wrote
 Is there a page somewhere that specifies what version(s) of Java are
 supported for what versions of Libreoffice?

No. But it probably belongs in the Wiki. 

Last substantive issues were when Oracle released Java 7 requiring new
vendor and minVersion strings. See  fdo#39659 comment 37
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39659#c37  .  Another was
Windows specific with transition from VS2008 to VS2010-- fdo#50584
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50584  . 

Nothing like that for JRE 8 or the move to VS2012 for builds.

 Specifically, is Java8 fully supported for version 4.1.x? 4.2.x? 4.3.x?

Yes, so far as has been reported.  The LibreOffice Java bytecode generated
remains at target 1.5 (major code 49),  JRE 8 handles that without issues.

Stuart



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Recommended version of Java?

2014-10-30 Thread Marc Grober
As long as this discussion has taken a snarky turn,  let's note that
fully supported does not mean it will work in situ, lol. In fact, my
experience has been that almost all the java issues I have experienced
on OSX would not have resulted in any indication that LO was not fully
supported with that version of java

The model employed by WordPress with respect to plugins offers an
interesting perspective, in that it encourages users to indicate whether
they have encountered issues.  The issues may rest on complex
interactions (such as the abort experienced when LO immediately sources
a problematic source for Java), or upon circumstances that avoided QA
(for whatever reasons) and perhaps are in some respects more informative
from the stand point of the average user than a certification (of
dubious value anyway.)

And, of course, the complexities of addressing multiple OS through
different methods could require an extensive matrix (as the vagaries of
the impact of the bitness, location, and viability of java on OSX have
demonstrated.)

Lastly,  I want to note that just because one person poses a question,
does not mean a list response is intended for that person alone. Nor
should I assume that those responding have a clear picture of what I am
asking for and why I am asking for it, all of which can help formulate
answers.  Yes, it is often frustrating when you ask about issue a and
you get a discursive discussion of issue b,  but that is, at least to
date, the nature of humanity - waxing buff may pump your hormones, but
it won't help the person looking for a discussion of issue b

On 10/30/14 3:18 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
 Hello,

 Is there a page somewhere that specifies what version(s) of Java are
 supported for what versions of Libreoffice?

 Specifically, is Java8 fully supported for version 4.1.x? 4.2.x? 4.3.x?

 Thanks




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Recommended version of Java?

2014-10-30 Thread jonathon


On 30/10/14 15:33, Tanstaafl wrote:

 No, it should be very easy to answer - for someone who knows.

There is no version of Java that can be recommended as a universal or
general answer. Which version to use literally depends upon:
* Extensions;
* Third party software that interfaces with LibO;
* Platform;
* Internal components of LibO;
that you use.

Couple that with zero day exploits of Java in the wild, before the
official release of the version of Java that is targeted, and the only
safe advice is to not use Java, unless it is on an air gapped system.

FWIW, even though A11Y requires Java, at least one screen reader works
better without Java installed, than with Java installed.

jonathon


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Recommended version of Java?

2014-10-30 Thread Valter Mura
In data giovedì 30 ottobre 2014 07:18:49, Tanstaafl ha scritto:
 Hello,
 
 Is there a page somewhere that specifies what version(s) of Java are
 supported for what versions of Libreoffice?
 
 Specifically, is Java8 fully supported for version 4.1.x? 4.2.x? 4.3.x?

Hi,

I'm using Java v. 7, and it seems to work correctly, both in Linux and Win

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Recommended version of Java?

2014-10-30 Thread Andreas Säger
Any of the latest Java 6, 7 or 8 should work equally well with LibreOffice.
The bitness of the _office_suite_ is the only limiting factor.
All LibreOffice versions for Windows are 32 bit, so you need a 32 bit Java
even on a 64 bit system.
LibreOffice for the Mac comes with 32 or 64 bitness. So it has to be 32 or
64 bit of Java respectively.
Under Linux you don't care. Everything is bundled by the maintainers.

There is nothing wrong with installing as many Java versions as needed for
all your software to run.
All security issues of the past years were related to browser apps and their
sand boxes.
And Tom is a phony idiot who knows nothing.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Date manipulation

2014-10-30 Thread Andreas Säger
For an embedded HSQL database the query goes like this:

SELECT * FROM Your Table WHERE DATEDIFF('day', CURRENT_DATE, Date Field)
BETWEEN -10 AND 10

Replace the double quoted names with the actual names of your table and
field.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Recommended version of Java?

2014-10-30 Thread Paul
On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:53:09 -0700 (PDT)
Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote:

 All security issues of the past years were related to browser apps
 and their sand boxes.

Somehow, I doubt the truth of that statement, and from what I have seen
on this list, I believe that others also think there is more to the
story than just bad browsers, however, even if it is true in full...

 And Tom is a phony idiot who knows nothing.

I hope that you personally know Tom very well, and know that he is ok
with you calling him such, otherwise I think you should consider your
words more carefully. This list is a user-oriented place meant to be
friendly and encouraging to new and old users alike, and Tom has done a
lot of good on this list; I don't feel he deserves that sort of
slander, even if he happens to be misguided in this instance (which I
am not yet convinced he is).

Paul

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[libreoffice-users] Extensions Basic Runtime Error

2014-10-30 Thread Dave Barton
I have searched Bugzilla and haven't found anything that comes close to
the issue I am experiencing. So before I start destroying  rebuilding
my extensive profile and maybe filing a new bug, I thought I would ask here.

I have 35 extensions (including 2 special dictionaries) installed.
Roughly 12 of them call oLibContainer.LoadLibrary(LibName) which
terminates with a BASIC runtime error. Type:
com.star.container.NoSuchElementException error. See:
http://www.mediafire.com/view/1ddd9fd2gkwa4ie/BRT_Error.png This screen
capture is just an example of the error from the Alternative searching
1.4 extension.

Now the really weird thing is that if I keep LO (any module) open and
reinstall those same extensions they work perfectly, until the next time
I start LO.

This started happening when I first moved up to 4.3.0 and continues
through to 4.3.3  on a Win 7 Ult-x64 box. I am not so much looking for a
fix or work-around, more to find out if anyone else has experienced
anything like this.

TIA
Dave (miserably looking forward to rebuilding his precious profile) Barton



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Recommended version of Java?

2014-10-30 Thread Virgil Arrington


On 10/30/2014 04:12 PM, Paul wrote:

On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:53:09 -0700 (PDT)
Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote:


And Tom is a phony idiot who knows nothing.

I hope that you personally know Tom very well, and know that he is ok
with you calling him such, otherwise I think you should consider your
words more carefully. This list is a user-oriented place meant to be
friendly and encouraging to new and old users alike, and Tom has done a
lot of good on this list; I don't feel he deserves that sort of
slander, even if he happens to be misguided in this instance (which I
am not yet convinced he is).

Paul



+1

In my experience on this list, Tom has been extremely helpful and, just 
as important, courteous.


Virgil

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Recommended version of Java?

2014-10-30 Thread Ian Whitfield


On 10/30/2014 11:02 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote:


On 10/30/2014 04:12 PM, Paul wrote:

On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:53:09 -0700 (PDT)
Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote:


And Tom is a phony idiot who knows nothing.

I hope that you personally know Tom very well, and know that he is ok
with you calling him such, otherwise I think you should consider your
words more carefully. This list is a user-oriented place meant to be
friendly and encouraging to new and old users alike, and Tom has done a
lot of good on this list; I don't feel he deserves that sort of
slander, even if he happens to be misguided in this instance (which I
am not yet convinced he is).

Paul



+1

In my experience on this list, Tom has been extremely helpful and, 
just as important, courteous.


Virgil


No +100.

Tom is a great help to many (including me) and should not be slandered 
for this!!


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[libreoffice-users] Forgotten where to look for template converting text dates to numeric and sortable form

2014-10-30 Thread Custfold

What do I put in the find  replace boxes?

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