[libreoffice-users] Happy Document Freedom Day!

2015-03-25 Thread Marc Paré
I know that this comes too late for those of you who are in other time 
zones. But in our time-zone (Americas etc.), it is morning.


So, a wonderful and Happy Document Freedom Day! to all in all time-zones.

Pass this along so that we can raise awareness about the need for Open 
Document Format openness (ODF). Let your employers know of today's date.


LibreOffice's default file system is that of the ODF.

Website: https://documentfreedom.org/

Cheers,

Marc


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[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice in the browser, revealed in 2011, finally close to reality The long-promised Android version hasn't been forgotten, either.

2015-03-25 Thread Paul D. Mirowsky

On Ars Technica today.

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/libreoffice-in-the-browser-revealed-in-2011-finally-close-to-reality/

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[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice in the browser, revealed in 2011, finally close to reality The long-promised Android version hasn't been forgotten, either.

2015-03-25 Thread Pedro
Close to reality is a bit too strong. Maybe closer to reality

According to Michael (Meeks) this is the beginning, and not even the end of
the beginning so there is still a long way to go.

This will be a real step forward for Open Document implementation. If
Universities, Government institutes, Non-Governamental Organizations (NGOs)
and even Small and Medium Entreprises (SMEs) install LibreOffice On-Line on
their servers and use it as a day-to-day Office suite, then ODF has a chance
to become a real standard.

Great news on Document Freedom Day :)



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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-03-25 Thread Tim Lloyd

A quick look at the doco reveals...

Range contains column/row labels
– omits the first row or the first column in the selection from the sort

Untick this box and you are sorted.

Cheers

On 26/03/15 10:06, Wade Smart wrote:

Hmm I just tried to sort going through the
sort menu and I still cant get it to sort
properly.

It does numbers just fine though.
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On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Wade Smart wadesm...@gmail.com wrote:

**cough cough** .. feature understood.
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On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Michael Tiernan
michael.tier...@gmail.com wrote:

On 3/25/15 6:53 PM, Wade Smart wrote:

I have 4.2.7.2 on Ubuntu 14.04 and you are correct, sort is not working.

When I reported it, I provided a great deal of information about it and
was told Not a bug and works for me by those who have the power to
close bugs.

My argument was/is that if you use the sort arrows (as you have done
here) then you're asking/telling LO to sort the selected rows with no
options.

Instead it was deemed correct that instead, LO assumes the first cell
found is used as a label regardless of any other settings.

This feature (*cough*) cost me a number of hours of work to get around
and avoid.

The argument is that since you can use the Sort menu option and change
this behavior *for each sort occurrence* then there's a work around for
the feature and we should be happy with that.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-03-25 Thread Wade Smart
**cough cough** .. feature understood.
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On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Michael Tiernan
michael.tier...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 3/25/15 6:53 PM, Wade Smart wrote:
 I have 4.2.7.2 on Ubuntu 14.04 and you are correct, sort is not working.
 When I reported it, I provided a great deal of information about it and
 was told Not a bug and works for me by those who have the power to
 close bugs.

 My argument was/is that if you use the sort arrows (as you have done
 here) then you're asking/telling LO to sort the selected rows with no
 options.

 Instead it was deemed correct that instead, LO assumes the first cell
 found is used as a label regardless of any other settings.

 This feature (*cough*) cost me a number of hours of work to get around
 and avoid.

 The argument is that since you can use the Sort menu option and change
 this behavior *for each sort occurrence* then there's a work around for
 the feature and we should be happy with that.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-03-25 Thread Wade Smart
I have 4.2.7.2 on Ubuntu 14.04 and you are correct, sort is not working.

I tried with several sets of letters:
p
a
b
q
r
z

The above is the sorted column.
a isnt first? hmmm

Wade

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On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Richard VINCK charvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello at the nice people at LibreOffice! (especially you :-) )

 I'm using LibreOffice version 4.4.1.2

 I was very surprised to see a bug (?!) in the internal SORT function of
 Calc.

 Please fill the following cells with a simple letter:
 L17=Z
 L18=B
 L19=Y
 L20=R
 L21=Q
 L22=P

 Now select those 6 cells and click on the Down/Up arrow in the toolbar
 (Sort), select Sort Key 1 : Z, Ascending, then click OK. Expected result was
 B-P-Q-R-Y-Z, but the Z did not move at all ! =-O

 This is undoubtedly a serious bug... and nobody has detected this before?
 How strange.

 Hopefully I could be of help making the software still better!
 Cheers
 Richard


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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-03-25 Thread Michael Tiernan
On 3/25/15 6:53 PM, Wade Smart wrote:
 I have 4.2.7.2 on Ubuntu 14.04 and you are correct, sort is not working.
When I reported it, I provided a great deal of information about it and
was told Not a bug and works for me by those who have the power to
close bugs.

My argument was/is that if you use the sort arrows (as you have done
here) then you're asking/telling LO to sort the selected rows with no
options.

Instead it was deemed correct that instead, LO assumes the first cell
found is used as a label regardless of any other settings.

This feature (*cough*) cost me a number of hours of work to get around
and avoid.

The argument is that since you can use the Sort menu option and change
this behavior *for each sort occurrence* then there's a work around for
the feature and we should be happy with that.

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[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-03-25 Thread Richard VINCK

Hello at the nice people at LibreOffice! (especially you :-) )

I'm using LibreOffice version 4.4.1.2

I was very surprised to see a bug (?!) in the internal SORT function of 
Calc.


Please fill the following cells with a simple letter:
L17=Z
L18=B
L19=Y
L20=R
L21=Q
L22=P

Now select those 6 cells and click on the Down/Up arrow in the toolbar 
(Sort), select Sort Key 1 : Z, Ascending, then click OK. Expected result 
was B-P-Q-R-Y-Z, but the Z did not move at all ! =-O


This is undoubtedly a serious bug... and nobody has detected this 
before? How strange.


Hopefully I could be of help making the software still better!
Cheers
Richard


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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-03-25 Thread Dave Liesse
If Sort By shows the data in the first cell then it is being treated 
as a column header.  Go to the Options tab and correct the item 
regarding the sort range including the header.


Dave




On 3/25/2015 16:06, Wade Smart wrote:

Hmm I just tried to sort going through the
sort menu and I still cant get it to sort
properly.

It does numbers just fine though.
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On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Wade Smart wadesm...@gmail.com wrote:

**cough cough** .. feature understood.
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On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Michael Tiernan
michael.tier...@gmail.com wrote:

On 3/25/15 6:53 PM, Wade Smart wrote:

I have 4.2.7.2 on Ubuntu 14.04 and you are correct, sort is not working.

When I reported it, I provided a great deal of information about it and
was told Not a bug and works for me by those who have the power to
close bugs.

My argument was/is that if you use the sort arrows (as you have done
here) then you're asking/telling LO to sort the selected rows with no
options.

Instead it was deemed correct that instead, LO assumes the first cell
found is used as a label regardless of any other settings.

This feature (*cough*) cost me a number of hours of work to get around
and avoid.

The argument is that since you can use the Sort menu option and change
this behavior *for each sort occurrence* then there's a work around for
the feature and we should be happy with that.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-03-25 Thread Tim Lloyd

Hi,

while LO does allow a certain amount of customisation, at this point in 
the game this particular menu option can not be changed.


This then becomes a feature request, either

 * change the default
 * allow the sort options to be customised

Once a feature request is submitted it is really up to a (unpaid) 
programmer to step forward and take on the action. I can't see this 
being high on the programmer's list of priorities but it may be deemed 
an easy hack which an aspiring young person could field.


Cheers




On 26/03/15 10:58, Richard VINCK wrote:

Tim Lloyd
Thank you for pointing this. Indeed, unticking it works then correctly.
But it should be the default, and should remain unticked. (and should 
be more visible, as it is hidden in the Option tab)

Can we make it as default?

On 2015-03-26 00:42, Tim Lloyd wrote:

A quick look at the doco reveals...

Range contains column/row labels
– omits the first row or the first column in the selection from the sort

Untick this box and you are sorted.

Cheers

On 26/03/15 10:06, Wade Smart wrote:

Hmm I just tried to sort going through the
sort menu and I still cant get it to sort
properly.

It does numbers just fine though.
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On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Wade Smart wadesm...@gmail.com 
wrote:

**cough cough** .. feature understood.
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On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Michael Tiernan
michael.tier...@gmail.com wrote:

On 3/25/15 6:53 PM, Wade Smart wrote:
I have 4.2.7.2 on Ubuntu 14.04 and you are correct, sort is not 
working.
When I reported it, I provided a great deal of information about 
it and
was told Not a bug and works for me by those who have the 
power to

close bugs.

My argument was/is that if you use the sort arrows (as you have done
here) then you're asking/telling LO to sort the selected rows with no
options.

Instead it was deemed correct that instead, LO assumes the first cell
found is used as a label regardless of any other settings.

This feature (*cough*) cost me a number of hours of work to get 
around

and avoid.

The argument is that since you can use the Sort menu option and 
change
this behavior *for each sort occurrence* then there's a work 
around for

the feature and we should be happy with that.

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[libreoffice-users] FEATURE REQUEST -- for the Sort options in Calc

2015-03-25 Thread Richard VINCK
For logical and safety reasons, and for compatibility with Microsoft 
Excel, I suggest that:
* The Sort Option Range contains column labels be_unticked by 
default_.

* Allow the sort options to be customized (optional).

It is good that LibreOffice has this option, but a beginner don't know 
that option and will sort what he/she has selected, and it is 
frustrating to see that the first column is not sorted at all, thinking 
it's a bug (like I did).


Thank you!
Cheers

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-03-25 Thread Wade Smart
Hmm I just tried to sort going through the
sort menu and I still cant get it to sort
properly.

It does numbers just fine though.
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On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Wade Smart wadesm...@gmail.com wrote:
 **cough cough** .. feature understood.
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 On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Michael Tiernan
 michael.tier...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 3/25/15 6:53 PM, Wade Smart wrote:
 I have 4.2.7.2 on Ubuntu 14.04 and you are correct, sort is not working.
 When I reported it, I provided a great deal of information about it and
 was told Not a bug and works for me by those who have the power to
 close bugs.

 My argument was/is that if you use the sort arrows (as you have done
 here) then you're asking/telling LO to sort the selected rows with no
 options.

 Instead it was deemed correct that instead, LO assumes the first cell
 found is used as a label regardless of any other settings.

 This feature (*cough*) cost me a number of hours of work to get around
 and avoid.

 The argument is that since you can use the Sort menu option and change
 this behavior *for each sort occurrence* then there's a work around for
 the feature and we should be happy with that.

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