Re: [libreoffice-users] Help with applying filters please.

2017-01-30 Thread Tom Davies 
Hi :)
There are some guides/manuals on;
http://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/english-documentation/

If you would like individual chapters from those guides (and more) then
this link might be useful;
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications/

Other types of documentation, such as the FAQ, are linked to from this
page;
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/


Btw i suspect that Brian was talking about links/'formulas' on the "print
sheet" rather than copy from the original.  Using links would mean
that the print page would automatically show any changes made to the
original page.  Of course this is all a bit academic now that you have done
the printing successfully already ;))  Nicely done btw :))

Good luck and many regards from
Tom :)



On 30 January 2017 at 22:46, Budge  wrote:

> Hi Brian
>
> On 30/01/17 15:25, Brian Barker wrote:
>
>> At 13:21 30/01/2017 +, Budge Noname wrote:
>>
>>> I am trying to hide some columns when printing. If I use the format
>>> cells > cell protection > hide when printing the contents of the cells
>>> are hidden and the sheet width is reduced as expected but when I try
>>> and print, it seems the space they occupy is still there giving me
>>> lots of white space and many sheets!
>>>
>>
>> I suspect that is - as they say - "by design"! It's worth noticing that,
>> since this technique uses cell formatting, it could apply to some cells
>> in a column and not others. If the space that would otherwise be
>> occupied by the hidden cells were suppressed, the alignment of other
>> output (that you did want) would be wrecked.
>>
>> You can hide entire columns using Format | Column > | Hide (or
>> right-click | Hide on the column header). The effect on the display is
>> temporary, of course, and can easily be reversed immediately after
>> printing: select columns surrounding the hidden ones and use Format |
>> Column > | Show (or right-click | Show on a column header).
>>
>
> When I did this the space occupied by the hidden columns was still in the
> print layout so objective not achieved.
>
> I would like to use the filter method, assuming this will solve my
>>> problem but when I tried on one column everything disappeared.
>>>
>>
>> "Everything"? You do want entire columns to be hidden, don't you?
>>
>
> I meant all the columns whether in filter pattern or not.  Very strange
>
> Here are two other ways to achieve the sort of thing you need:
>>
>> o Move your columns around so that the ones you do not want printed do
>> not occur between ones that you do. It is perfectly possible to maintain
>> the same calculations, of course. Then construct a print range that
>> contains the columns you want printed but not the rogue ones. Or you
>> could put the unwanted columns on a separate sheet and print only the
>> required sheet.
>>
>> o Create a separate sheet for printing purposes, containing only the
>> required columns. You need to create *formulae* referring to your
>> original sheet on that sheet, not just to paste values - so that values
>> there update automatically as you work on your main sheet. Then print
>> just that other sheet. Again, you could alternatively do this with
>> additional columns on the original sheet and a print range excluding them.
>>
>
> I refer to this as a brute force appraoch but it is what I ended up
> doing.  In fact I copied only the wanted columns to next sheet and printed
> from that.
>
> I trust this helps.
>>
>
> Yes and thank you.  Problem solved for now but clearly I have much to
> learn.
> Regards,
>
> Budge
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Help with applying filters please.

2017-01-30 Thread Budge 

Hi Brian

On 30/01/17 15:25, Brian Barker wrote:

At 13:21 30/01/2017 +, Budge Noname wrote:

I am trying to hide some columns when printing. If I use the format
cells > cell protection > hide when printing the contents of the cells
are hidden and the sheet width is reduced as expected but when I try
and print, it seems the space they occupy is still there giving me
lots of white space and many sheets!


I suspect that is - as they say - "by design"! It's worth noticing that,
since this technique uses cell formatting, it could apply to some cells
in a column and not others. If the space that would otherwise be
occupied by the hidden cells were suppressed, the alignment of other
output (that you did want) would be wrecked.

You can hide entire columns using Format | Column > | Hide (or
right-click | Hide on the column header). The effect on the display is
temporary, of course, and can easily be reversed immediately after
printing: select columns surrounding the hidden ones and use Format |
Column > | Show (or right-click | Show on a column header).


When I did this the space occupied by the hidden columns was still in 
the print layout so objective not achieved.



I would like to use the filter method, assuming this will solve my
problem but when I tried on one column everything disappeared.


"Everything"? You do want entire columns to be hidden, don't you?


I meant all the columns whether in filter pattern or not.  Very strange


Here are two other ways to achieve the sort of thing you need:

o Move your columns around so that the ones you do not want printed do
not occur between ones that you do. It is perfectly possible to maintain
the same calculations, of course. Then construct a print range that
contains the columns you want printed but not the rogue ones. Or you
could put the unwanted columns on a separate sheet and print only the
required sheet.

o Create a separate sheet for printing purposes, containing only the
required columns. You need to create *formulae* referring to your
original sheet on that sheet, not just to paste values - so that values
there update automatically as you work on your main sheet. Then print
just that other sheet. Again, you could alternatively do this with
additional columns on the original sheet and a print range excluding them.


I refer to this as a brute force appraoch but it is what I ended up 
doing.  In fact I copied only the wanted columns to next sheet and 
printed from that.



I trust this helps.


Yes and thank you.  Problem solved for now but clearly I have much to learn.
Regards,
Budge

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Access to Libre Office files

2017-01-30 Thread anne-ology 
   Ah, so glad your computer is back with its files intact.

   And thank you for letting me know.




From: Gareth Walters 
Date: Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: Access to Libre Office files
To: anne-ology 


Thanks for getting back to me. A friend suggested I switch the computer off
then on again to re-boot it, which I did and was then able to access all my
Libre Office files! Sorry, I am a bit of a dunce when it comes to computers!

Many thanks again,

Gareth



> On January 30, 2017 at 3:43 PM anne-ology  wrote:
>
>
>maybe I can help -
>
>   did you perchance save this document in an unknown format? -
>  there are numerous extensions of which you can choose, but some
> might not work with your particular set-up/machine.
>
>   do you still have the original document?
>
>   do you have a .txt document on your machine?
>
>If you somehow saved it to an unknown format, possibly you can
> re-save it correctly then all might be a-ok.
>
>If you open it in a .txt document, then hopefully all you would
need
> do/re-do would be to reformat the document.
>
>If you have the original document, then you could just start over.
>
>
>
>
> From: Gareth Walters 
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Cc:
> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 12:11:05 + (GMT)
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Lacl of Access to Libre Office files
> Good morning.
>
> I can't get seem to get into my Libre Office documents today. I can open
> other documents and can get the internet. Can you suggest anything to
> resolve this, please? I am working on a transcript of a meeting which I
> would like to finish and circulate as soon as possible.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Gareth Walters

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[libreoffice-users] in response ...

2017-01-30 Thread anne-ology 
   ... this message was waiting for 2 days to be released to the list;

  when I opened it to see if it was junk or not, I was
surprised to see that someone had posted a query.

   Since I thought I might be able to help, I responded to it.

   I responded to the original message, merely deleting the non-list
data,
  so I really do not understand what thread was broken.

   with all sincerity, & confused by your attitude,



From: Brian Barker 
Date: Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Access to Libre Office files
To: Anne Noname 
Cc: "Charles-H. Schulz" 


At 09:43 30/01/2017 -0600, Anne Noname wrote:

> From: Gareth Walters 
>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 12:11:05 + (GMT)
>> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Lacl of Access to Libre Office files
>>
>> Good morning. ...
>>
>
> maybe I can help - ...
>

You are doing it again!

Please, when you are asked to moderate an incoming message, your choices
are to permit it to be posted or not. Whichever you choose, you may, of
course, wish to reply yourself. But if you reply to a message that you
allow to go to the list, you need to reply to the copy that you will then
get from the list, not the original secret copy you received. Doing it the
wrong way wrecks the threading and confuses people. You owe it to them to
get it right.

Would you release the original message, please?

Brian Barker - privately

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Access to Libre Office files

2017-01-30 Thread anne-ology 
   maybe I can help -

  did you perchance save this document in an unknown format? -
 there are numerous extensions of which you can choose, but some
might not work with your particular set-up/machine.

  do you still have the original document?

  do you have a .txt document on your machine?

   If you somehow saved it to an unknown format, possibly you can
re-save it correctly then all might be a-ok.

   If you open it in a .txt document, then hopefully all you would need
do/re-do would be to reformat the document.

   If you have the original document, then you could just start over.




From: Gareth Walters 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Cc:
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 12:11:05 + (GMT)
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Lacl of Access to Libre Office files
Good morning.

I can't get seem to get into my Libre Office documents today. I can open
other documents and can get the internet. Can you suggest anything to
resolve this, please? I am working on a transcript of a meeting which I
would like to finish and circulate as soon as possible.

Many thanks

Gareth Walters

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Help with applying filters please.

2017-01-30 Thread Brian Barker 

At 13:21 30/01/2017 +, Budge Noname wrote:
I am trying to hide some columns when printing. If I use the format 
cells > cell protection > hide when printing the contents of the 
cells are hidden and the sheet width is reduced as expected but when 
I try and print, it seems the space they occupy is still there 
giving me lots of white space and many sheets!


I suspect that is - as they say - "by design"! It's worth noticing 
that, since this technique uses cell formatting, it could apply to 
some cells in a column and not others. If the space that would 
otherwise be occupied by the hidden cells were suppressed, the 
alignment of other output (that you did want) would be wrecked.


You can hide entire columns using Format | Column > | Hide (or 
right-click | Hide on the column header). The effect on the display 
is temporary, of course, and can easily be reversed immediately after 
printing: select columns surrounding the hidden ones and use Format | 
Column > | Show (or right-click | Show on a column header).


I would like to use the filter method, assuming this will solve my 
problem but when I tried on one column everything disappeared.


"Everything"? You do want entire columns to be hidden, don't you?

Here are two other ways to achieve the sort of thing you need:

o Move your columns around so that the ones you do not want printed 
do not occur between ones that you do. It is perfectly possible to 
maintain the same calculations, of course. Then construct a print 
range that contains the columns you want printed but not the rogue 
ones. Or you could put the unwanted columns on a separate sheet and 
print only the required sheet.


o Create a separate sheet for printing purposes, containing only the 
required columns. You need to create *formulae* referring to your 
original sheet on that sheet, not just to paste values - so that 
values there update automatically as you work on your main sheet. 
Then print just that other sheet. Again, you could alternatively do 
this with additional columns on the original sheet and a print range 
excluding them.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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[libreoffice-users] Help with applying filters please.

2017-01-30 Thread Budge 

I am trying to hide some columns when printing.

If I use the format cells > cell protection > hide when printing the 
contents of the cells are hidden and the sheet width is reduced as 
expected but when I try and print, it seems the space they occupy is 
still there giving me lots of white space and many sheets!


I would like to use the filter method, assuming this will solve my 
problem but when I tried on one column everything disappeared.


I have tried to follow the help instructions but cannot get it right. 
Please could somebody give a real beginner a hand.


Budge

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