Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Sorry i've been afk today.  Hopefully someone else can help.

Apols and regards from
Tom :)

On 16 Jul 2017 18:41, "MICHAEL HELY"  wrote:

thanks!

i would be grateful for advice on file permissions.I am in my 80s, and
there is never a teenager when you need one!

the problem has changed!   yesterday I updated to version 5.3.4.2.this
installed properly, but there is no LibreOffice desktop icon, and I can
only open documents using WordPro.this is generally OK;  I can amend or
edit, store, etc, but some of my docs are in landscape, and WordPro opens
these in portrait.the right hand side of the document is not
available.   if you can tell me how to get the LibreOffice icon so I can
open in LibreOffice I would be grateful

thanks for your help and advice

regards

m. hely

Original message
From : tomc...@gmail.com
Date : 15/07/2017 - 21:54 (GMTST)
To : mhmh...@btinternet.com
Cc : users@global.libreoffice.org

Subject : Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

Hi :)
Please let us know if you have managed to fix this problem yet or if you
are still having problems.

If you would like more detail on how to change file-permissions please
ask.  Given your skill level with Win 10 it's likely you already know.  I
know up to Win7 and although 8, 8.1 and 10 are probably the same i'd prefer
to check it works before assuming 10 is the same.

If you tried resetting permissions and it doesn't appear to be that then
please let us know because it's not been a problem in LibreOffice, nor
OpenOffice, afaik before and we would like to explore the potential for it
happening again.  Alternatively if it has happened before and is just
extremely rare then someone else might have a ready answer for you this
time.
Regards from
Tom :)





On 8 Jul 2017 23:13, "MICHAEL HELY"  wrote:

I am having trouble with this suite.   Normally I have been able to open,
amend, and save a document without any problem.However, in the last
week or so I can only open a document in read-only form.   To change the
contents I have to open a copy for editing, save that under a different
name, delete the original, and then rename the new document to fit in with
my filing system. This is time consuming, and very inconvenient.
The only event that I can identify as a possible cause is that about the
same time there was an automatic update to Windows 10, and there might be
some incompatablity between the updated Windows and LibreOffice.(I have
since installed the latest update to LibreOffice5, but to no avail;  the
problem is still there).However that is only a wild guess! I would
be grateful for your advice and a remedy
regards
M. Hely

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Re: [libreoffice-users] error exporting Writer document

[Philip Jackson]

I've solved my problem. And thankyou Brian for the message you sent.

I went back to a backup which did export correctly to epub and xhtml and
then looked for what changes I had made between that 'good' copy and the
'bad' document. I undid the changes progressively while testing the
conversion at intervals.

On 16/07/17 18:02, Philip Jackson wrote:
> operation with other Writer files including earlier versions of the
> problem file, so I expect that the particular document concerned has
> some corruption somewhere. 

The only fault was a web hyperlink formed in an unusual manner. Normally
when I form a hyperlink in Writer, I place the url in the 'Target' field
of the dialog box and the text that will be shown underlined as the
clickable link goes in the 'Text' field. I leave the 'Name' field blank.

However, on one occasion out of dozens in this document, a hyperlink
which I probably copied and pasted from somewhere on the web, had the
same entry 3 times - in the 3 fields : Target, Text, Name.

Once I deleted the Name entry, the document now exports correctly.

I can't say I understand why that was a problem but I'm pleased that it
has now gone away.

Philip

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[libreoffice-users] error exporting Writer document

[Philip Jackson]

Using LO 5.1.6.2 in UbuntuStudio 16.04LTS

I've had a failure to export a Writer document to xhtml and epub using
the export filters of the extension Writer2xhtml. Export to html using
LO's native export filter does work ok.

The export hangs for a few seconds and then quits with a first error
message, entitled ":Internal error in conversion" - and saying :

"org.w3c.dom.DOMException: INVALID_CHARACTER_ERR: An invalid or illegal
XML character is specified.  at
com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.dom.CoreDocumentImpl.createAttribute(CoreDocumentImpl.java:611)"

Clicking OK produces a LibreOffice error saying that a "Write Error" had
occurred and the file could not be written. Then Writer falls over and
has to be restarted.

This type of export is an operation I've done hundreds of times over the
past several years with the current setup and with earlier versions of
LO and I've never had a problem before. I can still do this export
operation with other Writer files including earlier versions of the
problem file, so I expect that the particular document concerned has
some corruption somewhere. Since it is rather lengthy and in the final
stages of editing, it contains lots of recent small edits but nothing
that I could say was unusual.

Can anyone help with understanding what that 'illegal XML character'
error means and how I can track down more precisely where the error is ?

Thanks,
Philip


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

[anne-ology]

   Using a MsFt product that's 21 years old is bound to cause problems.




From: Concerned Citizen 
Date: Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 4:02 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5
To: anne-ology 


Windows NT 4. Released in 1996, IIRC.

And no. You send feedback to them through the appropriate channels.
Microsoft has way too many users for them to be able to manage emails from
everyone themselves. No business that large does that.



On Jul 15, 2017 6:59 PM, "anne-ology"  wrote:

   Curiously wondering if you're saying one can go to MsFt's heads with
> problems & these will be fixed pronto;
>   if so, I'd like to hear an example of when you so did.
>
>And just what is NT4???
>
>
>
> From: Concerned Citizen 
> Date: Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 12:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5
> To: Tom Davies 
> Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
>
>
> I find it quite disturbing that someone stating an issue and, perhaps,
> asking for help leads to a thread of Windows-bashing...  This is
> particularly interesting, since I don't remember LibreOffice being a
> competitor to Windows - although it seems to have about as many scripting
> languages as Windows has [Microsoft] development languages...
>
> In any case, I have run into several issues with the suite on both Windows
> (macOS, but let's focus on the former), from Hardware Acceleration and
> OpenCL simply not functioning (at all - which is awful on a Notebook on
> Battery).  To tons of issues with Styles.  To epic performance issues on my
> Notebook stemming from those awful Liberation Fonts (disappears when I
> change font to Times or Arial, etc.).  Bad font rendering in the
> applications (thin, patchy looking fonts... like something on a low res
> PenTile display).  And the fact that the apps perform worse than both
> Microsoft and Corel WordPerfect Office (both of which I own, so I can do
> 1:1 comparison on Windows).
>
> I won't even talk about Linux, because that is clearly off-topic, and I'm
> not sure how you people have extended this to Microsoft and Microsoft
> Windows.  Is there nothing better to do with your time, and do you actually
> wish this to be a place where people can have civil discussion and give
> feedback without fear of the "Tear Down the Competition" reflex you're
> exhibiting, here?
>
> For fixing Permissions in Windows, you can go to the top level and simply
> propagate the permission changes down.  It's not difficult.  It's worked
> that way for about 2 decades (since at least NT4).
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:
>
> > Hi :)
> > One problem, once and experienced by just one person rarely compares with
> > the problems that abound on Windows.
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)
> >
> > On 10 Jul 2017 15:29, "Tom Williams"  wrote:
> >
> > On 07/09/2017 02:33 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> > > Hi :)
> > > There was a Win 10 update that messed up the permissions in one of the
> > > places i volunteer at.
> > >
> > > I have no idea how to fix it.  I think we went through each individual
> > > folder to reset the permissions but that sounds like a very
> > > inefficient and highly error-prone way of trying to fix it generally.
> > > Still, 'everyone' loves Windows.
> > >
> > > Regards from
> > > Tom :)
> >
> > Wow. Craziness.   :)
> >
> > Peace...
> >
> > "The Other" Tom
>
>
>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9 July 2017 at 17:46, Tom Williams  > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > On 07/08/2017 02:56 AM, MICHAEL HELY wrote:
> > > > I am having trouble with this suite.   Normally I have been able
> > > to open, amend, and save a document without any problem.
> > > However, in the last week or so I can only open a document in
> > > read-only form.   To change the contents I have to open a copy for
> > > editing, save that under a different name, delete the original,
> > > and then rename the new document to fit in with my filing system.
> > >This is time consuming, and very inconvenient.
> > > > The only event that I can identify as a possible cause is that
> > > about the same time there was an automatic update to Windows 10,
> > > and there might be some incompatablity between the updated Windows
> > > and LibreOffice.(I have since installed the latest update to
> > > LibreOffice5, but to no avail;  the problem is still there).
> > > However that is only a wild guess! I would be grateful for
> > > your advice and a remedy
> > > > regards
> > > > M. Hely
> > > >
> > > I have two basic questions:
> > >
> > >  1. Have you confirmed the original file wasn't already "read-only"
> > > before attempting to open it?
> > >  2. Are you opening files from the file system or directly from an
> > >  

Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

[Tim Lloyd]

Hi,

this list is about helping LO users with problems and you seem to have a 
few. Would you care to share any more detail? Have you logged these to 
the bugzilla?


Cheers


On 16/07/17 03:36, Concerned Citizen wrote:

I find it quite disturbing that someone stating an issue and, perhaps,
asking for help leads to a thread of Windows-bashing...  This is
particularly interesting, since I don't remember LibreOffice being a
competitor to Windows - although it seems to have about as many scripting
languages as Windows has [Microsoft] development languages...

In any case, I have run into several issues with the suite on both Windows
(macOS, but let's focus on the former), from Hardware Acceleration and
OpenCL simply not functioning (at all - which is awful on a Notebook on
Battery).  To tons of issues with Styles.  To epic performance issues on my
Notebook stemming from those awful Liberation Fonts (disappears when I
change font to Times or Arial, etc.).  Bad font rendering in the
applications (thin, patchy looking fonts... like something on a low res
PenTile display).  And the fact that the apps perform worse than both
Microsoft and Corel WordPerfect Office (both of which I own, so I can do
1:1 comparison on Windows).

I won't even talk about Linux, because that is clearly off-topic, and I'm
not sure how you people have extended this to Microsoft and Microsoft
Windows.  Is there nothing better to do with your time, and do you actually
wish this to be a place where people can have civil discussion and give
feedback without fear of the "Tear Down the Competition" reflex you're
exhibiting, here?

For fixing Permissions in Windows, you can go to the top level and simply
propagate the permission changes down.  It's not difficult.  It's worked
that way for about 2 decades (since at least NT4).

On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:


Hi :)
One problem, once and experienced by just one person rarely compares with
the problems that abound on Windows.
Regards from
Tom :)

On 10 Jul 2017 15:29, "Tom Williams"  wrote:

On 07/09/2017 02:33 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
There was a Win 10 update that messed up the permissions in one of the
places i volunteer at.

I have no idea how to fix it.  I think we went through each individual
folder to reset the permissions but that sounds like a very
inefficient and highly error-prone way of trying to fix it generally.
Still, 'everyone' loves Windows.

Regards from
Tom :)

Wow. Craziness.   :)

Peace...

"The Other" Tom



On 9 July 2017 at 17:46, Tom Williams > wrote:

 On 07/08/2017 02:56 AM, MICHAEL HELY wrote:
 > I am having trouble with this suite.   Normally I have been able
 to open, amend, and save a document without any problem.
 However, in the last week or so I can only open a document in
 read-only form.   To change the contents I have to open a copy for
 editing, save that under a different name, delete the original,
 and then rename the new document to fit in with my filing system.
This is time consuming, and very inconvenient.
 > The only event that I can identify as a possible cause is that
 about the same time there was an automatic update to Windows 10,
 and there might be some incompatablity between the updated Windows
 and LibreOffice.(I have since installed the latest update to
 LibreOffice5, but to no avail;  the problem is still there).
 However that is only a wild guess! I would be grateful for
 your advice and a remedy
 > regards
 > M. Hely
 >
 I have two basic questions:

  1. Have you confirmed the original file wasn't already "read-only"
 before attempting to open it?
  2. Are you opening files from the file system or directly from an
 email
 attachment?


 These are things you have probably already thought of but I want
 to ask
 anyway.  :)   I've run LibreOffice 5 on a couple of Windows 10

systems

 and have been able to open, edit, and save documents without issue.

 Peace...

 "The Other" Tom

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