Re: [libreoffice-users] Embedding Fonts

[Bruce Byfield]

The easiest way to avoid any problem is to use only free-licensed
fonts, which specifically allow embedding. There are hundreds of
high-quality fonts licensed under the SIL Font License or with the GPL
exception available today.

If you are still thinking in terms of proprietary fonts, this table
might be useful:

http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog/Free-equivalents-for-standard-proprietary-fonts

If anyone has any additions, I will update the table to keep it current.

o ___o
Bruce Byfield (on Pacific time) 604-421-7189
Writer of "Designing with LibreOffice"
www.designingwithlibreoffice.com

-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Re: [libreoffice-users] Embedding Fonts

[Tim-L]

On 12/02/2017 03:00 PM, Ricardo Berlasso wrote:

2017-12-02 19:31 GMT+01:00 arakish :


Did a search and all I found was some mumbo jumbo about legality.

There are no laws against embedding fonts in documents so you can keep
using
the same font across system units.

If a person has purchased a font for their use, then they are allowed to
embed that font into their documents.

I just think that y'all are too lazy to incorporate embedding into your
software.  All other office suites do it.  As far as I have found, only
Open
Office and Libre Office are the only office that won't incorporate font
embedding.

Thus, get font embedding incorporated.  It ain't that difficult.


First, LibreOffice DO have font embedding: just look at File → Properties →
Font tab → check "Embed fonts in the document".

Second, it seems you are not aware of the legal mess that font licensing
can bring to the table. Most proprietary fonts do NOT allow redistribution,
and embedding a full font on a text document (which is NOT the same that
embedding a subset on a PDF) IS redistribution. So, depending on the
foundry you get your fonts from, embedding could be illegal.

Third, there are several ways to embed a font, and some of those ways may
have patents associated with them so they cannot be freely implemented.

So yes, there ARE laws preventing the embedding of certain fonts, and no,
there is no laziness on trying to avoid font embedding, so please check the
license of the fonts you use before sending them to anyone else. In fact,
please check font licenses before USING them on any document. Good luck
with that.

Regards,
Ricardo


I remember this "argument" in the 1990's with what I was working with 
back then.


I have an Adobe font collection, but I tend to use either MS core fonts 
or some good free fonts.


Here is what I did back then and now - if there is a specific font that 
is NEEDED in the document, I make sure the users of the documents will 
have the links to download the fonts they need. Then it is up to "them" 
to deal with the licenses.







--
To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

[libreoffice-users] Customize shared spreadsheet conflict dialog

[Zandi]

Can I change the ScConflictsDlg (aka add another option)  with an extension?
 
Or if i have to edit the sourcecode,  is it possible to make it work with
automatic updates (so the changed part doesn't get owerwritten)? I'm new
here and not familiar with how LibreOffice updates work, so help would be
really appreciated.

Thanks,
Marko



--
Sent from: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Users-f1639498.html

-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base - a risky feature of the document display?

[Harvey Nimmo]

On Sat, 2017-12-02 at 20:57 +0100, Robert Großkopf wrote:
> Hi Harvey,
> 
> here is a little example-database for executing SQL by a macro.
> http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/download/Example_InsertUpdateDelete
> _SQL.odb
> Open the form and try. Could be constructed a little bit better, but
> works when code is right.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Robert

Hi Robert,

I think I can see what you are trying to do, but nothing happens on
clicking the button. The values of 'class' remain fixed at 1,3,2. Also
I get no messages like warning of macro execution. (Macro Security
level Medium)

Cheers
Harvey

-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Re: [libreoffice-users] Embedding Fonts

[Ricardo Berlasso]

2017-12-02 19:31 GMT+01:00 arakish :

> Did a search and all I found was some mumbo jumbo about legality.
>
> There are no laws against embedding fonts in documents so you can keep
> using
> the same font across system units.
>
> If a person has purchased a font for their use, then they are allowed to
> embed that font into their documents.
>
> I just think that y'all are too lazy to incorporate embedding into your
> software.  All other office suites do it.  As far as I have found, only
> Open
> Office and Libre Office are the only office that won't incorporate font
> embedding.
>
> Thus, get font embedding incorporated.  It ain't that difficult.
>

First, LibreOffice DO have font embedding: just look at File → Properties →
Font tab → check "Embed fonts in the document".

Second, it seems you are not aware of the legal mess that font licensing
can bring to the table. Most proprietary fonts do NOT allow redistribution,
and embedding a full font on a text document (which is NOT the same that
embedding a subset on a PDF) IS redistribution. So, depending on the
foundry you get your fonts from, embedding could be illegal.

Third, there are several ways to embed a font, and some of those ways may
have patents associated with them so they cannot be freely implemented.

So yes, there ARE laws preventing the embedding of certain fonts, and no,
there is no laziness on trying to avoid font embedding, so please check the
license of the fonts you use before sending them to anyone else. In fact,
please check font licenses before USING them on any document. Good luck
with that.

Regards,
Ricardo



> rmfr
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Users-f1639498.html
>
> --
> To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
> Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-
> unsubscribe/
> Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
> List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be
> deleted
>
>

-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base - a risky feature of the document display?

[Robert Großkopf]

Hi Harvey,

here is a little example-database for executing SQL by a macro.
http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/download/Example_InsertUpdateDelete_SQL.odb
Open the form and try. Could be constructed a little bit better, but
works when code is right.

Regards

Robert
-- 
Homepage: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de
LibreOffice Community: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/map_3


-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Re: [libreoffice-users] Embedding Fonts

[Remy Gauthier]

Hi,

Have you tried File -> Properties -> Font Tab -> Embed fonts in the
document (available in Writer, Calc, Impress, Draw - did not try Base).

Rémy Gauthier.


Le samedi 02 décembre 2017 à 11:31 -0700, arakish a écrit :
> Did a search and all I found was some mumbo jumbo about legality.
> 
> There are no laws against embedding fonts in documents so you can keep using
> the same font across system units.
> 
> If a person has purchased a font for their use, then they are allowed to
> embed that font into their documents.
> 
> I just think that y'all are too lazy to incorporate embedding into your
> software.  All other office suites do it.  As far as I have found, only Open
> Office and Libre Office are the only office that won't incorporate font
> embedding.
> 
> Thus, get font embedding incorporated.  It ain't that difficult.
> 
> rmfr
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Sent from: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Users-f1639498.html
> 
-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Re: [libreoffice-users] Embedding Fonts

[jonathon]

On 12/02/2017 06:31 PM, arakish wrote:

> There are no laws against embedding fonts in documents so you can keep using 
> the same font across system units.

Copyright law, and licensing rules come into play here.

> If a person has purchased a font for their use, then they are allowed to 
> embed that font into their documents.

That literally depends upon what the terms of the license that the font
is sold/leased under state.

Commercial foundries typically have licensing for:
* Desktop use only;
* Document embedding only;
* Internal document use only;
* External document use only;
* Intra-web use only;
* World Wide Web use only;
* ePub use only;
* PDF use only;

Use the font for a purpose for which one does not have a license, and
you face a lawsuit that at best, you lose.

> I just think that y'all are too lazy to incorporate embedding into your 
> software.

Font licenses are so tricky, that if you don't have a lawyer explain
just what your license allows, you will violate the license. No ifs,
ands, or buts.

I am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice.

jonathon


-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

[libreoffice-users] Embedding Fonts

[arakish]

Did a search and all I found was some mumbo jumbo about legality.

There are no laws against embedding fonts in documents so you can keep using
the same font across system units.

If a person has purchased a font for their use, then they are allowed to
embed that font into their documents.

I just think that y'all are too lazy to incorporate embedding into your
software.  All other office suites do it.  As far as I have found, only Open
Office and Libre Office are the only office that won't incorporate font
embedding.

Thus, get font embedding incorporated.  It ain't that difficult.

rmfr



--
Sent from: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Users-f1639498.html

-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base - a risky feature of the document display?

[Harvey Nimmo]

On Sat, 2017-12-02 at 10:42 +0100, Alexander Thurgood wrote:
> Le 01/12/2017 à 23:08, Harvey Nimmo a écrit :
> 
> Hi Harvey,
> 
> You are correct, it would improve the user experience of Base by an
> important measure to have a GUI UPDATE capability. This is something
> that has been desired by users since the days of StarOffice, through
> OpenOffice.org to the present day with LibreOffice. We're looking at
> a
> period of over 20 years here.
> 
> As of yet, no developer has stepped up to the plate to provide that
> functionality, bearing in mind that the precursors to LibreOffice
> were
> curated by some rather large corporations, it could have been done,
> but
> sadly never was. The fact of the matter is that Base is still rather
> the
> "runt" of LO development. One of the reasons for this is no doubt the
> complexity of having to understand both database programming
> principles
> and specificities and the LO code behind Base itself. There are
> easier
> targets for developers to pick and choose, and so these tend to get
> chosen over something meatier like what you are asking for.
> 
> Currently, Base development goes in fits and starts. Current Firebird
> integration was the result of at least one GSOC project (two or three
> in
> fact, I seem to recall). The fact that the transition to Firebird as
> the
> default embedded database engine is still not complete, is an
> indication
> of the lack of interest in seeing things through, unfortunate though
> that may be.
> 
> There are several other areas where Base development could do with a
> serious boost, but unless developers can be attracted to them, very
> little will change. Some of the core developers working on other
> areas
> of LO never touch anything database-related and in their humble
> opinions
> if Base were to disappear in a puff of smoke, they wouldn't be
> particularly saddened. Indeed, they would probably be happier that
> the
> code had been lightened by several tens of thousands of lines of
> code,
> and not least, be rid of all Java dependencies.
> 
> 
> So, you see, it is an uphill battle just to keep what we have, let
> alone
> develop new features for it.
> 
> 
> 
> Alex
> 

Ah...thank you Alex. What a pity, all those programmers are missing a
wonderful opportunity to give someone joy in life!! ;-)

Cheers
Harvey


-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

[libreoffice-users] Re: Base - a risky feature of the document display?

[Alexander Thurgood]

Le 01/12/2017 à 23:08, Harvey Nimmo a écrit :

Hi Harvey,

You are correct, it would improve the user experience of Base by an
important measure to have a GUI UPDATE capability. This is something
that has been desired by users since the days of StarOffice, through
OpenOffice.org to the present day with LibreOffice. We're looking at a
period of over 20 years here.

As of yet, no developer has stepped up to the plate to provide that
functionality, bearing in mind that the precursors to LibreOffice were
curated by some rather large corporations, it could have been done, but
sadly never was. The fact of the matter is that Base is still rather the
"runt" of LO development. One of the reasons for this is no doubt the
complexity of having to understand both database programming principles
and specificities and the LO code behind Base itself. There are easier
targets for developers to pick and choose, and so these tend to get
chosen over something meatier like what you are asking for.

Currently, Base development goes in fits and starts. Current Firebird
integration was the result of at least one GSOC project (two or three in
fact, I seem to recall). The fact that the transition to Firebird as the
default embedded database engine is still not complete, is an indication
of the lack of interest in seeing things through, unfortunate though
that may be.

There are several other areas where Base development could do with a
serious boost, but unless developers can be attracted to them, very
little will change. Some of the core developers working on other areas
of LO never touch anything database-related and in their humble opinions
if Base were to disappear in a puff of smoke, they wouldn't be
particularly saddened. Indeed, they would probably be happier that the
code had been lightened by several tens of thousands of lines of code,
and not least, be rid of all Java dependencies.


So, you see, it is an uphill battle just to keep what we have, let alone
develop new features for it.



Alex


-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted